It's time to settle this once and for all

[Mr. T]

because its much harder to understand for beginners. if u add an nt  the people will ask what nt stands for and then they will learn what nt is. In Golos idea the beginners wont see that there is a thing called nt or no touch and so they will get confused.

Oh, and I guess beginners understand shit like atatw, taatw, hhtw. You'd probably have to explain things anyways, the meaning of (nt) as well, so it comes down to the same shit really.

We won't explain them the meaning of nt/"-"/" " if they don't ask, and there's a bigger chance that they won't ask if there's missing "-" than if they see a "nt", because it's easier to ignore the missing "-" as said earlier.

What actually IS annoying is when people write "tatw nt amatw" instead of tatw amatw(nt)"
makes a lot of confusion if someone types for example:

"atw-atw-htw-tatw-matw(nt) amatw-htw-atw-atw"

when the combo they actually are talking about is

"atw-atw-htw-tatw-matw-amatw(nt)-htw-atw-atw"

The (nt) sign should NOT be put inbetween the "notouching" tricks.

It makes a lot of confusion for people who are used to (nt) behind, yes; that's why we need everyone to use the same system.
And that system should be nt between.

[Max]

because its much harder to understand for beginners. if u add an nt  the people will ask what nt stands for and then they will learn what nt is. In Golos idea the beginners wont see that there is a thing called nt or no touch and so they will get confused.

Oh, and I guess beginners understand shit like atatw, taatw, hhtw. You'd probably have to explain things anyways, the meaning of (nt) as well, so it comes down to the same shit really.

yeah but they will think that there is no rule for writing an *-* or * *. they will think everyone only writes what he wants to. if there is  nt they will ask for the nt and so its better for them.  The only thing that should be cleared up is if e should  write nt between or after the tricks..... i prefer oli's way and i think the mayority of freestylers does.

[Legend]

It makes a lot of confusion for people who are used to (nt) behind, yes; that's why we need everyone to use the same system.
And that system should be nt between.

so ur saying theres a confusion when ppl use nt behind coz u believe it should be in the middle, why not just remove the nt completely then there wont be any confusion, simple as tht

talking bout beginners, they shouldn't know wats a nt, simply coz they r still beginners, unless ur talking bout beginners these days who can do almost every nt with ugly style :rockit: ..

[Sander]

i think it doesnt really matter how you write it down, behind or middle, as long as people understand you. you can always find a way to make clear what combo you mean

[Thomas]

It makes a lot of confusion for people who are used to (nt) behind, yes; that's why we need everyone to use the same system.
And that system should be nt between.

so ur saying theres a confusion when ppl use nt behind coz u believe it should be in the middle, why not just remove the nt completely then there wont be any confusion, simple as tht

talking bout beginners, they shouldn't know wats a nt, simply coz they r still beginners, unless ur talking bout beginners these days who can do almost every nt with ugly style :rockit: ..

haha class post, and very true, as always!

[emogirl]

I'm sorry, emos opinions aren't taken into consideration.

By you, so emos don't really give 2 shits about it.  :biggrin:

[Mr. T]

It makes a lot of confusion for people who are used to (nt) behind, yes; that's why we need everyone to use the same system.
And that system should be nt between.

so ur saying theres a confusion when ppl use nt behind coz u believe it should be in the middle, why not just remove the nt completely then there wont be any confusion, simple as tht

It won't cause confusions that way, that's true, but then there's other ways that the missing nt will cause cnofusion, which are mentioned before ...
It's all messed up lol.

[Golomejic]

because its much harder to understand for beginners. if u add an nt  the people will ask what nt stands for and then they will learn what nt is. In Golos idea the beginners wont see that there is a thing called nt or no touch and so they will get confused.

Oh, and I guess beginners understand shit like atatw, taatw, hhtw. You'd probably have to explain things anyways, the meaning of (nt) as well, so it comes down to the same shit really.

yeah but they will think that there is no rule for writing an *-* or * *. they will think everyone only writes what he wants to. if there is  nt they will ask for the nt and so its better for them.  The only thing that should be cleared up is if e should  write nt between or after the tricks..... i prefer oli's way and i think the mayority of freestylers does.

How the fuck did beginners became a big issue here anyway? So beginners won't understand it so we shouldn't use it? I guess who should stop trying new tricks and shit cause we would maybe then have to explain that too. Just stop and drop everything so the whole fucking world could catch up!

Nevermind the beginners here.

I'm sorry, emos opinions aren't taken into consideration.

By you, so emos don't really give 2 shits about it.  :biggrin:

Good, everyones happy.

[Max]

but then explain why we should change it anyway? i dont think anyone was unpleasured with the current situation.

[M4R10]

but then explain why we should change it anyway? i dont think anyone was unpleasured with the current situation.

M4x if u use Golo's way you would save 5-6 seconds of your life for something else

btw. i like Golo's way, like is said we save some time and it looks more simple to read

[Jonathonhehu]

yes i like it too  :cheers:

[Max]

i will write as i did before....