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Offline Damiano

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Growing a Country's FS Community
« on: Feb 02, 2013, 05:56: PM »
Sup freestylers, we need some help!
In New Zealand there is just 3 active freestylers. We make a few videos and try and spread them on NZ social media, doing visible shows/busking in the cities, have regular opportunities for meets...
but every person who tries freestyle seems to lose interest quickly
how can we create an enviroment which encourages people to keep dedicated to FS?
How did countries like Poland become so massive and competitive in Freestyle, whereas other countries didn't.
any ideas that could help us are appreciated
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Re: Growing a Country's FS Community
« Reply #1 on: Feb 02, 2013, 09:00: PM »
one can get serious for freestyle only when he/she is willing to fs u can't simply force someone to fs... it takes a shit load of time and practice and you would know this thing 10x better than me coz you are a fsr on your own...
talking about how to make people fs with you and to spread the word... busking can not help people try fs on their own... it's a kinda show to entertain and only 4-5 guys out of a 50 person guys would think of starting fs and i guess only 1 of them would take it seriously.
The way i thought would be better is the one that made me inspire others fs i just train outside i've an avg. level at uppers, somewhat more less than avg. in sits :grin: probably ZERO at lowers... i'm from India a cricket dominated and mad nation i train at places where 20-30 guys of almost ma age are playing cricket i train in front of them from the past 3 weeks 8 of the guys are training with me... earlier they would just stop their match and would sit around and see me fs... it's an amazing feel when you see someone trying hard to achieve something rather than those guys would bet around fight and play cricket and create a scene. i never intended to do so but it has turned real good for me i feel like a teacher to them and those guys had a bat and ball at home now each one of them has a football and shoes to train.  :)
2 of the guys can now do footstall-nech stall, 1 has reached upto 37 juggles, 1 is after head stall and others are training hard as well... every saturday, sunday morning those guys would text me bro when to train today... it worked for me hope it will do for you as well  :13:  :)
just get into guys of young age and train in front of them i would say don't do a show or follow a routine just train, fail in front of them, do combos n stuff it would definately make them attracted towards fs and you'll see the results for sure. good luck  :victory: :smiley:

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Re: Growing a Country's FS Community
« Reply #2 on: Feb 02, 2013, 10:51: PM »
I dont know tbh, but I think it also has a lot to do with popularity of football (I would say Poland, Russia, England or Brasil could be mentioned as football countries) and how various video/social/other sites work in that country.
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Re: Growing a Country's FS Community
« Reply #3 on: Feb 02, 2013, 11:59: PM »
onas is pretty right... the popularity of the roots of freestyle i.e. football is also extremely important i guess NZ is more of a Rugby nation than that of a footballing country.

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Re: Growing a Country's FS Community
« Reply #4 on: Feb 03, 2013, 03:33: AM »
maybe a show in tv?

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Re: Growing a Country's FS Community
« Reply #5 on: Feb 03, 2013, 05:51: AM »
Thanks Damian for this awesome topic. This is the case with Estonia as well.
Back in 2010 I entered to an Estonian Got Talent TV show, I made it to finals. After it was over I got load and loads of e-mails from guys who wanted to take up freestyle. I gave them some tips and they went try them out. Unfortunately I got busy with performing and some interviews, so it was difficult for me to answear to all theire questions as fast as they wanted. I got many TV performances after  that as well and I was thinking that freestyle is going to be big. I think there were like 7-8 guys who took up it seriously and another 15-20 who were just trying it out. In Spring 2011 I got in touch with one event organizer, who wanted to make little freestyle competition in Estonia. I got excited, because this would have been the first comp in Estonia. I made little promotional TV performance for them and after that I said that they are going to invite Azun as well. In summer, when it was the time for the event to take place, they just dissapeared and nothing happened. It was a bull shit, they just wanted to promote there beach soccer in TV, but they needed to do it in a different way - nobody was going to give a damn about beach soccer and wouldn't let them on air, so they needed something fresh like freestyle. I was even told some words that I have to say, I did. But as it turned out, they didn't give a damn about freestyle. So I contacted with red bull. I did it also in 2009 and they sayd me that after the event in Latvia and Lithuania they want to make it in Estonia as well, but on the next year, when the new seoson of RBSS starts. In 2011 nothing happened, so I sent a new letter. They told me that there's no point in freestyle football event in Estonia, the level is soooo low and there aren't many freestylers around - but we did, around 10 guys (you are going to laugh, but that's the biggest scene we have ever had), So we got turned down from RBSS as well. Our scene started to fall apart, training, training and more training isn't that motivational after some months, at least for all those freestylers. we had our group of 5 freestylers, now there's only me left. We haven't been talking for about a year now. I understand those guys, what's the point in training, when the only way to show your skills is to perform infront of your mom? Guys lost theire motivation, didn't get any LPs and there wasn't any competitions going on. Yeah there's an oppurtunity to go abroad, but that's expensive. Busking is not allowed here and if you could, you won't make more than  5€ in a day - people don't give a fu*k about football or that kind of stuff.

Also, what's already mentioned, people here don't like football that much. Our biggest stadium is ment only for 10 000 people and it's been sold out only 3 times. Our leagues are unprofessional, there are only 5 clubs who can pay for theire players (they are semiprofessional, because they don't pay for all of theire players). Our main sport is basketball or skiing I would say.

What to do? I think some kind of competitions should be held here. I remember finnish guys saying that after the first RBSS freestyle got bigger, guys saw that it's fun and you can achieve something. And after all freestyle is a street sport, at least I think so. It can't be taught like litterature, it has to come inside of a player.

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Re: Growing a Country's FS Community
« Reply #6 on: Feb 09, 2013, 01:06: PM »
Some really great responses here, much better than learnfreestyle forum

VRK- Yeah football itself isn't the biggest sport here, it's popular, but Rugby is generally more supported. Probably me busking on saturday nights for drunks won't boost the countrys fs scene true haha
well there is 1billion people in india, so even if only a quarter of them like football, still a good chance of getting a freestyler or two
 but you've made a great suggestion at how to boost FS, by just freestyling in an open area! as opposed to in the garden or empty parking lot ect

salim - yeah we hope to go on tv soon, before superball - but even though pallur was on tv so many times, it didnt really help Estonian fs too much - but people probably looked at his skills and said .. that's impossible

pallur - man thats a crazy story
we had also around 10 freestylers, but due to university, alcohol, women none train at all anymore
feel sorry that so many opportunities for freestyle in Est passed you, but congratulations for you sticking with it
at the end of the day you're right: it can't be taught, it's an acquired taste: a passion which drives you from within!
i think Estonia like New Zealand, Football isn't the main sport, which doesn't help the freestyle scene lol
keep up your good work!

cheers evryone!