Cristiano=Overrated

[TheGodEmperor]

well, we'll all be watching closely on wednesday  :thumbsup:

did anybody see how he toyed with arsenal, though? That proved to me that he has the stuff...now can he use it...

[Golomejic]

as the king nut stated. yes he has done well against teams like wigan, totenham, bolton. now release messi against those teams then you would understand.

"yes he has done well against teams like wigan, totenham, bolton"

You're making it sound like that's an easy thing to do, Moby. Playing "well" in the best league in the world with so much consistancy every week isn't as easy as you make it to be. If a player who scores 31 goals in 34 games, from the wing btw, is overrated then what the fuck were all the players that are better than him doing? Why the fuck weren't they owning the fuck out of the league sweeping all the awards in the process for 2 seasons in a row?

"Teams like wigan and tottenham" ... well fucking hell man, those are some good clubs and there are 4 "big" clubs in the premiership and Ronaldo is playing in one of them so there aren't really that many "big matches" to be played in England. But oh my word, he has scored against 2 of the 3 other big clubs, what happened there? Oh, and I'm sure, 6 consecutive titles, Lyon and, consecutive Seria A runner up (a league which, I'm sure, you belive it's better/harder than the PL) Roma are fucking walks in the park as well.

"now release messi against those teams then you would understand. "

What would exactly happen? Messi would score for fun? Would be exciting to watch? Well that's exactly what Ronaldo has done, but oh since you don't like him he's overrated.

[TheGodEmperor]

I think each person has a point, but ronaldo is the best player in the world right now. He is not, however, an all time great...yet...

[manutd.]

Yet. He's still young, all those greats were known as greats after they had done their job. Like Adi said before, he'll be missed and praised when he's done.

Golo, you have the best posts, and they make up for all those times you're busy getting head. 

[TheGodEmperor]

Yet. He's still young, all those greats were known as greats after they had done their job. Like Adi said before, he'll be missed and praised when he's done.

Golo, you have the best posts, and they make up for all those times you're busy getting head. 

all true...I trust Borg has confirmation  :biggrin:

[TheGodEmperor]

I think each person has a point, but ronaldo is the best player in the world right now. He is not, however, an all time great...yet...

Duh! I think that's pretty obvious considering the fact that he's only 23. There was no player that was considered an all time great at that age.



I love you too, Borg. :hello:

no I think Pele was...but that was in a different time.

[Golomejic]

I deleted that post cause I wanted to add something but nevermind now.

I think Pele wasn't. It easy to think that now and obviously we weren't there at the time in order to claim it for sure but I don't think he was. People surely talked about him becoming a great but that's different.

[TheGodEmperor]

I deleted that post cause I wanted to add something but nevermind now.

I think Pele wasn't. It easy to think that now and obviously we weren't there at the time in order to claim it for sure but I don't think he was. People surely talked about him becoming a great but that's different.

He was dubbed 'official national treasure' at that age, so I think everyone heralded him as a great. And when you say you think he wasn't, do you mean you think he wasn't an all time great, or that he wasn't considred an all time great at 23?

[Golomejic]

This is going a bit off but oh well.

I don't think he was considered an all time great, legend of a player at 23.

"Official national treasure"; Owen was labelled as the golden boy of english football once which means he was considered as a potential great, just like Pele but the difference is Pele turned out to be a recognized as true footballing legend, an all time great.

It's like Adi said; once the player is done you can really see and admire his worth and sometimes it can make you belive you had the exact same opinion of him when he was still at his prime, or even before.

[TheGodEmperor]

the difference is that only british people labelled owen like that, whereas the entire world was talking about the phenomenon that was pele

[TheKingNut]

Thats right, Owen was being touted as the "English Pele" when he burst onto the scene, which was wrong. It is typical of the English press though to build someone up to knock them down.

I think people are slightly going off the topic. I never stated that Ronaldo would not go onto be a true great, I was merely trying to state that in my opinion, if he fails to show up on the European and World occasions then I don't think anybody could justify him as being a true great. In my eyes I believe a fully fit Messi to be a greater player. Ronaldo has been awesome this season and I am looking forward to the years building up to the World Cup in 2010 and the World Cup itself. I think we will find out a lot more about the two greatest players in the world right now, Messi and Ronaldo, and whether they will go down as a footballing legends.

[TheGodEmperor]

and....