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Re: JJ vs PIXY - WFSLeague Japan Final TOP 8
« Reply #12 on: Oct 14, 2011, 09:33: AM »
jj... he keeps doing clutches on the same side... and he waves his arms around like a retard. I actually liked the clutch combos he did but I hate that he was too repetitive.
pixy entertained me. I liked his sits and he had more variation on the other stuff.

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Re: JJ vs PIXY - WFSLeague Japan Final TOP 8
« Reply #13 on: Oct 14, 2011, 09:44: AM »
In this particular battle, both had quite low technical score, because the judges missed some technical difficulties, and as a result none of them went through top 4.
No offense, but Nam was a bad choice as TECHNICAL judge. Some of the technical scores in the final group were just ridiculous. You should've kept Azun as technical judge or get someone who gets that stuff. The football coach as control judge was also a bad decision. I hope that in the future, you'll have (football) freestylers as judges. If not, this will start to look like RBSS.

As for the competition overall, I don't get why these guys repeat the same tricks so damn much, especially when they actually have something else to show. I'd understand that someone with a limited "arsenal" of tricks would get repetitive, but this was just ridiculous to be honest.
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Re: JJ vs PIXY - WFSLeague Japan Final TOP 8
« Reply #14 on: Oct 14, 2011, 01:37: PM »
In this particular battle, both had quite low technical score, because the judges missed some technical difficulties, and as a result none of them went through top 4.
No offense, but Nam was a bad choice as TECHNICAL judge. Some of the technical scores in the final group were just ridiculous. You should've kept Azun as technical judge or get someone who gets that stuff. the football coach as control judge was also a bad decision. I hope that in the future, you'll have (football) freestylers as judges. If not, this will start to look like RBSS.

As for the competition overall, I don't get why these guys repeat the same tricks so damn much, especially when they actually have something else to show. I'd understand that someone with a limited "arsenal" of tricks would get repetitive, but this was just ridiculous to be honest.

miran you got it all right....JJ can do some impressive sittings and power moves, really didn´t understand why he didn´t show them.....maybe he wanted to save them for further rounds.....

@jabarinho: sorry man didn´t got u right.....sounded just like another: "this is not real freestyle" nonsense to me...
but you got a point there that they repeated a little bit to much....but in a long competition like this this is in some way understandeble....

@mat_styllball: their technical level is extremely hight....to pull of that stuff in such an easy and effortless way is very difficult....
maybe their is some underrating there......but you couldn´t expect a better judgement if you put only one freestyler in the judging team....

the judging is still a big issue of our sport.... In prague we had a freestylers only judging team and still there where some conflicts ( Gunther for example )

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Re: JJ vs PIXY - WFSLeague Japan Final TOP 8
« Reply #15 on: Oct 14, 2011, 08:23: PM »
Judging...judging...judging....the forever discussion. There is no competition without controversy abt judging, it has always been like that, and will continue forever, you can never find the best judges, NEVER.

THis beeing said, I feel that all 3 judges did a good work during the whole competition. For the record they had 42 battles to judge in 1 day, not a 1 shot battle who decide who's gonna win big time or loose big time.
Thats the WFSLeague system, we do not want  to have a one shot winner, we want them to battle, to sweat, to take risks and to be close to the perfection to win.

Nam did a great job at the technical score, he has a good knowledge of what japanese freestyle is and has a greater experience than most of the freestylers regards to japan freestyle. So to me, he is very much able to judge it technically.

Kamikaze is a freestyler. yes a basketball freestyler, but his score is Performance, his judgment does not take into account in the Technical score.

As for Control. Tom is not a football player. He is one of the only coach who teach kids all the technical aspects of controling a football. He has enough experience to judge the Control score and the associated criterias, I watched it closely, and if you wanna check all 42 battle by yourself, you will see that his judgment is valid.
He has been teaching how to control a football for 20 years, why wouldn't he be a good judge for this Score?

Why taking only freestylers to judge? we try to bring the best persons who have enough experience, from our point of view, to judge their criteria.

The winner of this competition had to battle 9 times also. So out of this you can have a better view of who is overall the best during the day. And when I look at the results I can tell that it reflects the 42 battles.

This particular battle is 1 out of 42, you cannot have a valid point on judging while watching only this one.