the guy does fairly consistent LPs with very few to no drops. It's not uncommon at all to see that from Billy to do a LP without drops, and this alone should classify him as an intermediate freestyler. Beginners are people just starting freestyle. This idea that the level of beginner must be raised, because the level of masters is so high is ridiculous. You are a beginner when you first begin freestyle. It's that simple. the word is in the title. Billy also has been doing sole juggles and a few decent sitting moves for several years now which would at least be considered intermediate. I think the hatred towards him is hilarious. Get over it. It's extremely silly that so many of you are jealous of his fame and the gigs he gets.
I realise you are convinced some guys are jealous of billy wingrove so im not going to try to change your mind. But you were the one who first mentioned billy’s name in this thread. No one is hating on billy or denying his lp entertainment skills. But in terms of technical fs skills he is very close to beginner level or maybe intermediate because of his variety. Whether im jealous or not it is still true.
Im not hating on you or billy or anyone but i do not understand how u put someone in intermediate category because they can do BASIC tricks in an lp without drops.
Also, if some random guy is fsing for 10 years but only learns only atw and tatw in that time he is clearly a beginner. So it is not limited to freestylers who just started.
Just my opinion, peace
I mentioned Billy, because he is well known. Everyone here knows who he is. He is definitely not a beginner, or he would stop getting any shows at all. If you read my description of the levels, he falls face first into the intermediate category, because he does have at least basic tricks in all areas of freestyle. This is something many of you don't have. His level is definitely intermediate. Intermediate more or less means around average among a group. He is at least average. Also, LP skills are a huge part of freestyle. I don't understand why people rate certain skills, and they don't rate others. I was consider him better than many of the freestylers that post in this forum as well.
your username tells all about you. i think its either.
- Your definition of intermediate is screwed up.
or
- you dont watch freestyle at all.
from what you said. billy is an intermediate performer. not freestyler.
freestyle started first and LPs came later on. MP and all suck at LPs doesnt make them fall down from the masters category.
