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Re: Szymo or Andrew? Who is the worldchampion now?
« Reply #72 on: Sep 24, 2011, 09:16: PM »
In Poland, only PFFA has the rights to organise OFFICIAL polish championships, it's written in our status, so the one that wins a tournament like this is the OFFICIAL polish champion. RBSS i MOTG are commercial tournaments, with a huge sponsor and it's title and no federation has anything to do with those tournaments, so you can't call them official championships (RBSS was an open competition though). I don't have any clue about F3's status, but if they're registered legally as an world wide federation, then they have all rights reserved to organize official world championships - if I'm right, they organized the prague tournament together with czech federation, so for me the official world champion is Szymo.

As far as I know, KL contest was a part of tournee organized by F3 - there are 9 more coming up (only the top 8 from KL are sure to be a part of the next contest, the rest will be chosen according to their achievements) - the person with the biggest amount of points from all of the 10 contests will be the official world champion.

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Re: Szymo or Andrew? Who is the worldchampion now?
« Reply #73 on: Sep 24, 2011, 09:36: PM »
if you dont like using google translate maybe go learn danish or fuck off...everyone in the world shouldnt have to be forced to learn our language without us learning theirs

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Re: Szymo or Andrew? Who is the worldchampion now?
« Reply #74 on: Sep 25, 2011, 12:06: AM »
In Poland, only PFFA has the rights to organise OFFICIAL polish championships, it's written in our status, so the one that wins a tournament like this is the OFFICIAL polish champion. RBSS i MOTG are commercial tournaments, with a huge sponsor and it's title and no federation has anything to do with those tournaments, so you can't call them official championships (RBSS was an open competition though). I don't have any clue about F3's status, but if they're registered legally as an world wide federation, then they have all rights reserved to organize official world championships - if I'm right, they organized the prague tournament together with czech federation, so for me the official world champion is Szymo.

As far as I know, KL contest was a part of tournee organized by F3 - there are 9 more coming up (only the top 8 from KL are sure to be a part of the next contest, the rest will be chosen according to their achievements) - the person with the biggest amount of points from all of the 10 contests will be the official world champion.
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Re: Szymo or Andrew? Who is the worldchampion now?
« Reply #75 on: Sep 25, 2011, 03:56: AM »
In Poland, only PFFA has the rights to organise OFFICIAL polish championships, it's written in our status, so the one that wins a tournament like this is the OFFICIAL polish champion. RBSS i MOTG are commercial tournaments, with a huge sponsor and it's title and no federation has anything to do with those tournaments, so you can't call them official championships (RBSS was an open competition though). I don't have any clue about F3's status, but if they're registered legally as an world wide federation, then they have all rights reserved to organize official world championships - if I'm right, they organized the prague tournament together with czech federation, so for me the official world champion is Szymo.

As far as I know, KL contest was a part of tournee organized by F3 - there are 9 more coming up (only the top 8 from KL are sure to be a part of the next contest, the rest will be chosen according to their achievements) - the person with the biggest amount of points from all of the 10 contests will be the official world champion.
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agree, good post, but even when (at least for me) Prague was the high leveled competition this year, it's still an European Championship, I have a huge respect for Daniel Wood, Lucaso and Mat from Styllball because they have done an amazing job organizing some of the best comps. Only RBSS include people of most countries of the globe into one place after a qualifier....
ven when Bov is right when he said that Poland always have the most freestylers in best spots in the top competitions (3 at least lol crazy polish) Brazil and Argentina have lot of sick football players and they have to chose few for competitions, also in break dance there are some countries with the highest level and they choose few to represent countries.

Max I know what you mean about the one who does the hardest stuff have to be the winner, but you also have to remember that our sports was an art before it become in what it is now and o agree in the fact that the technical skills have to be qualified with more points, BUT, the art part of our SPORT actually makes the difference between other sports is the essence of what we do (in my opinion). Sean is to much of hand and sometimes he goes to much to the "art" side, but also isnt good the fact of being  just hardcore in comps, the prove of it are Gunther and Mirko, DomyDB as well... OMG that guys are like gods, but if they win comps like Prague and RBSS then we will have to plumber about create a new sport named "lowair freestyle" LMAO... peace to all hope you understand my bad english

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Re: Szymo or Andrew? Who is the worldchampion now?
« Reply #76 on: Sep 25, 2011, 04:08: AM »
have you seen gunther mirko or domybd winning any big competition? no. because as you said they are only hardcore in lowers. but you can be hardcore in every style like szymo and andrew prove. Also Baruzdin showed how you can be hardcore in sitdowns and turlakov bengau luki showed how you can be hardcore in uppers.

Plus how do you want to judge art? art is a matter of taste and you cant meassure that so it shouldnt be part of competitions. Maybe you mean originality by creating your own moves, this is judgeable but not by breakdancers or footballers. you need a quality jury to judge that and we had that in prague. Plus you might not know that andrew is like one of the most creative freestylers around.
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« Reply #77 on: Sep 25, 2011, 10:54: AM »
nobody needs to accept F3 as the official world federation if they dont want to. for me to accept an official federation the president and members ALL need to be ex-freestylers or freestylers, and i want to be involved in the election process.
and I dont want competitions about Rio Ferdinand to be on the official world freestyle federations facebook page

this isnt any offence to F3, i understand what theyre doing is making freestyle more commercially viable and they did a fuckin AWESOME job in Kuala Lumpur (its hugely important to start a world championship tour exactly like theyre doing and i hope it goes really well), im just saying that for me, nobody will ever be an official world freestyle governing body until its run completely by freestylers and doesnt market freestyle as a by-product of football

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Re: Szymo or Andrew? Who is the worldchampion now?
« Reply #78 on: Sep 25, 2011, 11:33: AM »
nobody needs to accept F3 as the official world federation if they dont want to. for me to accept an official federation the president and members ALL need to be ex-freestylers or freestylers, and i want to be involved in the election process.
and I dont want competitions about Rio Ferdinand to be on the official world freestyle federations facebook page

this isnt any offence to F3, i understand what theyre doing is making freestyle more commercially viable and they did a fuckin AWESOME job in Kuala Lumpur (its hugely important to start a world championship tour exactly like theyre doing and i hope it goes really well), im just saying that for me, nobody will ever be an official world freestyle governing body until its run completely by freestylers and doesnt market freestyle as a by-product of football
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Re: Szymo or Andrew? Who is the worldchampion now?
« Reply #79 on: Sep 25, 2011, 11:43: AM »
have you seen gunther mirko or domybd winning any big competition? no. because as you said they are only hardcore in lowers. but you can be hardcore in every style like szymo and andrew prove. Also Baruzdin showed how you can be hardcore in sitdowns and turlakov bengau luki showed how you can be hardcore in uppers.

Plus how do you want to judge art? art is a matter of taste and you cant meassure that so it shouldnt be part of competitions. Maybe you mean originality by creating your own moves, this is judgeable but not by breakdancers or footballers. you need a quality jury to judge that and we had that in prague. Plus you might not know that andrew is like one of the most creative freestylers around.

that's what I meant , I think is clear, I just put art as a way of view.

Well I know all what you said about Szymo and Andrew, specially Andrew have an awesome creativity! And what I'm trying to say and I think I'm not expressing myself properly is that Andrew and Szymo has proved that you don't have extremely hardcore to win a comp... Also you dont have to be a genius to see who have more control... less drops more control, also more control of your body (style) is part of this criteria. Creativity, the one who makes different tricks or not repeat tricks of other contestants (the biting thing is funny but everyone who does a patw, satw or eatw are biting, of course is hard to do that kind of tricks instead of a carousel but at the end is biting), so do unussual or different tricks from the others is creativity.

For me it would be better if in RBSS they qualify Control(Style), Originality and Difficulty.

for the difficulty criteria you must need an actual freestyler, maybe in originality also (even a non freestyler can see the difference between Michryc, Kamalio, Gauthier, Séan compared to freestylers that only "bite" regular stuff), but control???

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Re: Szymo or Andrew? Who is the worldchampion now?
« Reply #80 on: Sep 25, 2011, 05:07: PM »
if you dont like using google translate maybe go learn danish or fuck off...everyone in the world shouldnt have to be forced to learn our language without us learning theirs
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Re: Szymo or Andrew? Who is the worldchampion now?
« Reply #81 on: Sep 26, 2011, 05:31: AM »
if you dont like using google translate maybe go learn danish or fuck off...everyone in the world shouldnt have to be forced to learn our language without us learning theirs
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Re: Szymo or Andrew? Who is the worldchampion now?
« Reply #82 on: Sep 26, 2011, 09:26: AM »
if you dont like using google translate maybe go learn danish or fuck off...everyone in the world shouldnt have to be forced to learn our language without us learning theirs
Dumb post. English is used all over the world, how many countries use Danish?
Denmark and the Faroe Islands!
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...why did you learn about Danish speaking countries in US History?

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Re: Szymo or Andrew? Who is the worldchampion now?
« Reply #83 on: Sep 28, 2011, 01:33: AM »
Does anyone really care about the world champ title? the only use we have of the title, is for promotion. Lets just have diferent titles for diferent tournaments, thats better!

Also, for me there is no such a thing as "world champion" in freestyle.
« Last Edit: Sep 28, 2011, 02:08: AM by Tom »