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Are ground moves a part of football freestyle?

Yes
62 (55.9%)
No
49 (44.1%)

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Voting closed: Aug 23, 2011, 02:48: AM

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Offline Liicht

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Re: Are ground moves a part of football freestyle?
« Reply #36 on: Aug 06, 2011, 12:48: AM »
ground moves are 1/4 of freestyle football, for sure! ground moves in a game= street football...and yeah, there are a lot of tricks i can say here! alain overstap, ankle breaker, double twist, rakka, mo' combo...pfffffffff! a lot of people disrespect ground moves cause they don't practice and they don't have knowledge...they're ridicolous! in the past i used to practice air moves before ground but i always respected them as an important part of freestyle football, as i respect sitdwon and upper even if i never spent time trying to practice them.Ars said he doesn't think people can spend a lot of time doing just ground moves, this is not true...when I don't play (street football) i practice ground moves for a lot of hours. I am a freestyler (football), for sure! I try to do harder combos almost every day just like you.
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That doesn't sound like a freestyle move..
And "New Shit" does? lol
I don't think you got my point. Assuming that ankle breaker is similar to the basketball version of the move, you need to be against an opponent. If that's the case, then it's clearly a street football move.

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Re: Are ground moves a part of football freestyle?
« Reply #37 on: Aug 06, 2011, 01:49: AM »
lol it isn't? What is it then?
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Re: Are ground moves a part of football freestyle?
« Reply #39 on: Aug 06, 2011, 03:50: AM »
when i think about it... groundmoves can be part of freestyle, but the problem is that its not very entertaining and at the same time most top freestylers dont focus on learning it and practice the same amount of time on it as the 3 other style.

any good allrounders that kickass in groundmoves? :) cant think of anyone...

it can be entertaining for people that are into it, but i remeber when i started freestyle, i though groundmoves were totaly gay and useless cause my focus and mind was with normal football. I also hated the use of hands... but when i start to think of freestyle as a own sport my opinion changed...

groundmoves are maybe too linked to street soccer... very few does groundmoves just for the tricks and not for fooling the opponent...

i guess someone will mention Sofiane cause he went to south africa and he was a ground expert, but i think most of understand why his style were to prefer in Belgium... S3 had 5 french freestylers from 4 differnt contries, and if im rigth, all live in france?... but thats another topic :)

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Re: Are ground moves a part of football freestyle?
« Reply #40 on: Aug 06, 2011, 05:03: AM »
any good allrounders that kickass in groundmoves? :) cant think of anyone...
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Re: Are ground moves a part of football freestyle?
« Reply #41 on: Aug 06, 2011, 07:21: AM »
any good allrounders that kickass in groundmoves? :) cant think of anyone...
Kamalio, Séan, Metoditos, basically any Dutch freestyler?

groundmoves are maybe too linked to street soccer... very few does groundmoves just for the tricks and not for fooling the opponent...
IMO, this is a popular misconception & it's actually the other way around. Most moves which are done in combos or combos in general aren't used in actual games, unless maybe in 1v1.

i guess someone will mention Sofiane cause he went to south africa and he was a ground expert, but i think most of understand why his style were to prefer in Belgium... S3 had 5 french freestylers from 4 differnt contries, and if im rigth, all live in france?... but thats another topic :)
Actually, 3 live in France (Séan, Wass & Andreas), Soufiane lives in Belgium and Nadir in Switzerland and although they had "their own" as judges, it's unfair to say Soufiane and Nadir went to SA only because of that.
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Re: Are ground moves a part of football freestyle?
« Reply #42 on: Aug 06, 2011, 07:42: AM »
With all that being said, I'd just like to add my own opinion on this whole story.

First and foremost, groundmoves ARE a part of freestyle football. This isn't a matter of opinion, it's a FACT. Freestyle came from street soccer, not the other way around. And please, don't even try to start with that shit about the circus jugglers and stuff like that. Just look at when and how freestyle football actually kicked off.

With that said, my opinion is that groundmoves are more of an "accessory", so to speak, than a basis, which will always be: Uppers, Lowers & Sits. For me, groundmoves fall into the same basket as hand moves, acrobatic tricks, etc. - you can add them to your repertoire to bring in more variety, but you can't really use them as a foundation for your freestyle.
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Re: Are ground moves a part of football freestyle?
« Reply #43 on: Aug 06, 2011, 07:51: AM »
i wouldnt call them experts in groundmoves... they are better in their other styles!
I ment allrounders that have ground as their spesialty, not those who can do it ;)


i dont know any dutch freestyler that are good in all 4 styles... and has ground as best "style"

about the S3... okay lack of knowlegde... and ill take most of it back, beside i would think Sven and Thomas are better freestylers..?


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Re: Are ground moves a part of football freestyle?
« Reply #44 on: Aug 06, 2011, 10:06: AM »
Liicht asked me if i really practice ground moves for HOURS...and..yeah for sure! damn! I am a freestyler ! just like others practice air/sit/upper i spend my time doing ground moves (when I am alone) and playing street football...i know others like me, what's the problem? As Miran said, this is freestyle football...and this is not my point of view.....this is the truth...and for LIS: you can't talk about a ground move trick without knowledge...i don't talk about things i don't know...peace
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Re: Are ground moves a part of football freestyle?
« Reply #45 on: Aug 06, 2011, 10:12: AM »
Liicht if u really think ground moves are sooooo easy...u can make a video with better combos than Nelson, Randall, Achie, Ruud, Jazz, Matthew , Bencok ;)
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Re: Are ground moves a part of football freestyle?
« Reply #46 on: Aug 06, 2011, 10:43: AM »
i wouldnt call them experts in groundmoves... they are better in their other styles!
I ment allrounders that have ground as their spesialty, not those who can do it ;)


i dont know any dutch freestyler that are good in all 4 styles... and has ground as best "style"

about the S3... okay lack of knowlegde... and ill take most of it back, beside i would think Sven and Thomas are better freestylers..?
You should've been more specific then. :)

But yeah, there aren't any who have grounds as a foundation, that's what I also mentioned in my post.

And yeah, I agree that Thomas or Sven are probably better freestlyers than Soufiane, they're technically much better for sure, but unfortunately, they didn't manage to show it at RBSS and that's the main reason why Soufiane won, not because Séan was in the jury. But hopefully next year they'll do better, Thomas has already shown last year in Prague that he can. :)
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Re: Are ground moves a part of football freestyle?
« Reply #47 on: Aug 06, 2011, 11:03: AM »
any good allrounders that kickass in groundmoves? :) cant think of anyone...
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