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Re: bad sessions
« Reply #12 on: Jun 16, 2011, 05:51: PM »
no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues
i am sorry my opinion isnt good enough for you Sir SG but in freestyle THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVERTRAINING. If you are tired from the previous session, you are still able to train and improve in other area of lowers. e.g if you spend a day training speed combos (multiple latw) then you are likely to get burnout in your hamstring area. The next training, even though you are very tired, you can train long combos...

Training long combos when you are tired will increase your endurance in combos when you are fresh. Then, the following session you will be able to train whatever you want again...
So how to train?...Just vary what you train if you're tired from the previous session.

There is obvious proof that you cant overtrain in freestyle...MP trains 7 days a week, up to 10 hours a day.
You wanted oLi's opinion, but he never overtrained in terms of his physical capability, he just overtrained to an extent where he no longer had the mental motivation.

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Re: bad sessions
« Reply #13 on: Jun 16, 2011, 06:09: PM »
i think everyone has these session once in a while... personally when i had these kind of sessions i just freestyled so long that i could get something decent, even if it took fuckin long and i was fuckin tired.
also called motivation?

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Re: bad sessions
« Reply #14 on: Jun 16, 2011, 11:53: PM »
thanks a lot guys, i will for sure try out what has been mentioned here!
going to take 2 days break though, so i can build up some motivation
and then my muscles can take  a break aswell

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Re: bad sessions
« Reply #15 on: Jun 17, 2011, 12:21: AM »
no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues
i am sorry my opinion isnt good enough for you Sir SG but in freestyle THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVERTRAINING. If you are tired from the previous session, you are still able to train and improve in other area of lowers. e.g if you spend a day training speed combos (multiple latw) then you are likely to get burnout in your hamstring area. The next training, even though you are very tired, you can train long combos...

Training long combos when you are tired will increase your endurance in combos when you are fresh. Then, the following session you will be able to train whatever you want again...
So how to train?...Just vary what you train if you're tired from the previous session.

There is obvious proof that you cant overtrain in freestyle...MP trains 7 days a week, up to 10 hours a day.
You wanted oLi's opinion, but he never overtrained in terms of his physical capability, he just overtrained to an extent where he no longer had the mental motivation.

waiting for the first guy saying mp practises 25 hours a day
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Re: bad sessions
« Reply #16 on: Jun 17, 2011, 06:00: AM »
Glad I'm not the only one who feels like that some days.
Some days it seems like nothing works, can even get simple combos and tricks.  :embarrassed:

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Re: bad sessions
« Reply #17 on: Jun 17, 2011, 06:22: AM »
no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues

It's actually interesting you mention that. Me and my overtraining story is quite complicated and has a ton of twists and what not to it. There's an interesting perspective where you look at how worth a particular training is in terms of amounts you progress compared to how much time you spend practicing and I certainly believe it can be better to practice 2h a day (if we speak lowers only that is) compared to 6h a a day if we consider this benefit per minute or whatever you wanna call it perspective.

Eat enough. Rest enough. And remember, training for 5 h a day is not automatically better than 2 h a day "just like that". How you train is obviously also very much a key factor.

And never ever train just to train. This will kill you. Train because you love it and you enjoy it and because you want to improve. As soon as you start feeling as if you have to go out and train and you're not enjoying what you're doing you are doomed to fail. Doing this creates a negative circle because you will start thinking in a negative way and in my case freestyle and my goals and what not had a huge impact on me as a person and on my social life. My personality which without a doubt is a prideful and at times very narcisistical one took a great blow due to the fact that people such as MP came from nowhere and destroyed me. Just the whole summer of 2010 in general where I trained more than I ever had yet I seemed to do nothing but regress.
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Re: bad sessions
« Reply #18 on: Jun 19, 2011, 12:44: PM »
Ethan, why do you think there's "no such thing as overtraining."?

Overtraining IS possible, it's just that there basically isn't anyone who trains that much to be bale to experience it.
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Re: bad sessions
« Reply #19 on: Jun 19, 2011, 03:07: PM »
over-training can be physical or mental. Mental overtraining is very bad in any sport. like oli said dont train to just train.
Physical overtraining is possible in sports in terms of long term effect it has. You dont notice it as start but with time the wear and tear takes its toll. Not sure if this happens in fs..it is a relatively new sport. I want to know why palle is injured every other month or something.
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Re: bad sessions
« Reply #20 on: Jun 20, 2011, 07:43: AM »
man i think you're mental state does have an impact on ur traning sessions i would say
its like 85 percent metal you know like motivation and confidence.

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Re: bad sessions
« Reply #21 on: Jun 28, 2011, 07:06: AM »
I just heard a young girl in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, after watching her mother and her brother being gang raped and watching her Father's eye balls being physically ripped due to the fact he refused to rape his own daughter, then the Hutu militia tribe finishing of burning down her house, killing her family, keeping her a live however burning her labia and her clitoris in to a mere pulp, she runs to the local hospital and however as she does she suddenly think's to herself
"What am i crying about? My man Adrian here is struggling with his freestyle training? okay yes I can still here my mother's screams as they hacked her face off with a machete, however at least i'm not getting frustrated during my freestyle session"

Now have a think, are you really having a tough time? or are you just telling yourself you are?

Apart from the basic's, drink more water, train earlier, get rid of negative pressure's etc
Just switch your mindset up a little, stop seeing failure as a stumbling block, just picture is as one step closer to the trick your trying to land

In the word's of Michael Jordan "I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed. "

Tip number 2, don't just train harder, train smarter

What i mean by this is, study the greats, if you love how Rocco does his Ahmatw, download the fucker, put it in slow mo in sony vegas, look at them in every angle, then film yours, compare and see the difference and make changes

Keep your'e concentration 100%, if you think your'e mindset is drifting off to some fly hunnies or fly dudes (i don't judge people) pick up the ball, remind yourself of what trick you are doing and whatever little secrets you have and start again

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Re: bad sessions
« Reply #22 on: Jun 28, 2011, 07:10: AM »
no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues

It's actually interesting you mention that. Me and my overtraining story is quite complicated and has a ton of twists and what not to it. There's an interesting perspective where you look at how worth a particular training is in terms of amounts you progress compared to how much time you spend practicing and I certainly believe it can be better to practice 2h a day (if we speak lowers only that is) compared to 6h a a day if we consider this benefit per minute or whatever you wanna call it perspective.

Eat enough. Rest enough. And remember, training for 5 h a day is not automatically better than 2 h a day "just like that". How you train is obviously also very much a key factor.

And never ever train just to train. This will kill you. Train because you love it and you enjoy it and because you want to improve. As soon as you start feeling as if you have to go out and train and you're not enjoying what you're doing you are doomed to fail. Doing this creates a negative circle because you will start thinking in a negative way and in my case freestyle and my goals and what not had a huge impact on me as a person and on my social life. My personality which without a doubt is a prideful and at times very narcisistical one took a great blow due to the fact that people such as MP came from nowhere and destroyed me. Just the whole summer of 2010 in general where I trained more than I ever had yet I seemed to do nothing but regress.

And now you're trying to compete in bodybuilding right man? Isn't that shit gonna be even harder?

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Re: bad sessions
« Reply #23 on: Jun 28, 2011, 07:51: AM »
no such thing as overtraining.
Overtraining is a physical, behavioral, and emotional condition that occurs when the volume and intensity of an individual's exercise exceeds their recovery capacity. They cease making progress, and can even begin to lose strength and fitness
i would want oLi's opinion on this.he would be capable of giving some good argues

It's actually interesting you mention that. Me and my overtraining story is quite complicated and has a ton of twists and what not to it. There's an interesting perspective where you look at how worth a particular training is in terms of amounts you progress compared to how much time you spend practicing and I certainly believe it can be better to practice 2h a day (if we speak lowers only that is) compared to 6h a a day if we consider this benefit per minute or whatever you wanna call it perspective.

Eat enough. Rest enough. And remember, training for 5 h a day is not automatically better than 2 h a day "just like that". How you train is obviously also very much a key factor.

And never ever train just to train. This will kill you. Train because you love it and you enjoy it and because you want to improve. As soon as you start feeling as if you have to go out and train and you're not enjoying what you're doing you are doomed to fail. Doing this creates a negative circle because you will start thinking in a negative way and in my case freestyle and my goals and what not had a huge impact on me as a person and on my social life. My personality which without a doubt is a prideful and at times very narcisistical one took a great blow due to the fact that people such as MP came from nowhere and destroyed me. Just the whole summer of 2010 in general where I trained more than I ever had yet I seemed to do nothing but regress.

And now you're trying to compete in bodybuilding right man? Isn't that shit gonna be even harder?
it's not even related lol. cause the main point of freestyle is having fun, by doing better and better tricks, you must be excited and motivated while you train, and bodybuilding is about developing your body, and the training part is not about having fun but about forcing yourself to do one more rep when you think you're at the dead point when you can't do any movement