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[surajemo]

 

[surajemo]

@alex u abuse a lot what kind of creature  r u  "a mad monkey who lost his tail"

[Tupac]

Not only are russians training hard (e.g the many hours a day) they are training efficiently. Long combos are harder than nts, somone can learn
 tatw-matw nt in 3-5 days training it - even 1 day - long combos are the basis for everything. You need good basics ex. htw/atw/hatw to master everything else. Yes maybe south america has a slightly higher level in amatw nt (overall of course) but I'd like to see them hit 60-70 trick combos.

Why are you saying this? Just randomly putting it out there that training efficiently is the best way to train?
You are a God amoung men. Please don't waste your time with us O wise one.

Never gonna see at least 3 fsers from SA and Europe who will get hardcore lower level in 1 year.

I do not come up with this knowledge on my own, I take it from someone who helped devolop world class fsers such as ARS and MP. It is pointless arguing with leha, My point being - when you and vish were talking of Xfreestyler training 2 hrs a day, and X freestyler training 4 hrs a day etc etc. That it is possible that one freestyler is not training efficiently. Sorry, O wise one...

[vish22]

Not only are russians training hard (e.g the many hours a day) they are training efficiently. Long combos are harder than nts, somone can learn
 tatw-matw nt in 3-5 days training it - even 1 day - long combos are the basis for everything. You need good basics ex. htw/atw/hatw to master everything else. Yes maybe south america has a slightly higher level in amatw nt (overall of course) but I'd like to see them hit 60-70 trick combos.

Why are you saying this? Just randomly putting it out there that training efficiently is the best way to train?
You are a God amoung men. Please don't waste your time with us O wise one.

Never gonna see at least 3 fsers from SA and Europe who will get hardcore lower level in 1 year.

Why not?

Did you see any? European still surprise when they see some guy who does 2 amatw nt after 1 year of training.

who will get hardcore lower level

means 4ahmatw and amatw-matw nt?

Means 4 ahmatw, 3 amatw nt at least, amatw-3matw nt, 3-4 latw, at least 2 alatw, 50-60 htws, long combo for 50-60 tricks, at least 3 ahmatw and 2 ahtatw.

yes,this is what defines russian level..
that is high average level
but you are confining hardcore only to these tricks,
how about alatw-batw??
pallemove-ahtatw nt,
they sound stupid to you,right i know..
but you must make your arsenal of basic high hardcore much more flexible sorry to say
I remember ARS doing lot of different variations like tatw-batw nt,amatw-matw-nt-amatw-matw nt,alatw-almatw nt,etc,etc for his level after 2 years
Now,everything seems to be ONLY what you mentioned

What the random combos 'alatw-batw'? 'pallemove-ahtatw nt'?
There are many fsers in Russia who can do ahtatw nt easily. About moves after alatw - almost nobody trains alatw-batw exactly because its useless, but alatw-htatw (by weak foot too) can do many.

'I remember ARS doing lot of different variations like tatw-batw nt,amatw-matw-nt-amatw-matw nt,alatw-almatw nt,etc,etc for his level after 2 years'
If u didnt know alatw-almatw couldnt be nt, freestyle master :D
Tatw-batw nt - yea, again almost nobody in Russia trains those combos. But if u can do 3 amatw nt and amatw-3matw nt by strong and at least amatw-2matw nt by weak you easily can do ur amatw-matw-amatw-matw nt, idiot. That's why u are almost the one and only freestyler in ur country with poor level - if anybody asks you to help him you can only answer 'just practice'. What a pity

ahahaha,sorry man,in a flow i typed alatw-almatw nt
anyways,it is also a  pity that some of the so called "more hardcore" freestylers in russia cannot do any other variations,they cannot get any combo which anyone challenges...
i still havnt seen pavlinoff do skora nt btw,ahahaah,6 hrs training!!OMG!!!!but no!hes is among the BEST!!(no disrespect to him)
and no,it is useless to train hard and not being able to do any random hardcore combo which you can imagine...
becs-ltatw-amatw nt anyone??heheehe
Also,there are very few btw,who can even do all those basic hardcore which u mentioned,with consistency...

[Max]

just because they dont show any of your variations doesnt know they cant do them.

[L_I_S]

Not only are russians training hard (e.g the many hours a day) they are training efficiently. Long combos are harder than nts, somone can learn
 tatw-matw nt in 3-5 days training it - even 1 day - long combos are the basis for everything. You need good basics ex. htw/atw/hatw to master everything else. Yes maybe south america has a slightly higher level in amatw nt (overall of course) but I'd like to see them hit 60-70 trick combos.

Why are you saying this? Just randomly putting it out there that training efficiently is the best way to train?
You are a God amoung men. Please don't waste your time with us O wise one.

Never gonna see at least 3 fsers from SA and Europe who will get hardcore lower level in 1 year.

Why not?

Did you see any? European still surprise when they see some guy who does 2 amatw nt after 1 year of training.

Not at the moment but maybe later there will be. If this topic was full of tips on becomming hardcore maybe we could see a new freestyler become very good in the same time too.
But you said never, why is that? Not possible?

@Sam, fix your quote mate.

[dunnowhois]

Not only are russians training hard (e.g the many hours a day) they are training efficiently. Long combos are harder than nts, somone can learn
 tatw-matw nt in 3-5 days training it - even 1 day - long combos are the basis for everything. You need good basics ex. htw/atw/hatw to master everything else. Yes maybe south america has a slightly higher level in amatw nt (overall of course) but I'd like to see them hit 60-70 trick combos.

Why are you saying this? Just randomly putting it out there that training efficiently is the best way to train?
You are a God amoung men. Please don't waste your time with us O wise one.

Never gonna see at least 3 fsers from SA and Europe who will get hardcore lower level in 1 year.

Why not?

Did you see any? European still surprise when they see some guy who does 2 amatw nt after 1 year of training.

who will get hardcore lower level

means 4ahmatw and amatw-matw nt?

Means 4 ahmatw, 3 amatw nt at least, amatw-3matw nt, 3-4 latw, at least 2 alatw, 50-60 htws, long combo for 50-60 tricks, at least 3 ahmatw and 2 ahtatw.

yes,this is what defines russian level..
that is high average level
but you are confining hardcore only to these tricks,
how about alatw-batw??
pallemove-ahtatw nt,
they sound stupid to you,right i know..
but you must make your arsenal of basic high hardcore much more flexible sorry to say
I remember ARS doing lot of different variations like tatw-batw nt,amatw-matw-nt-amatw-matw nt,alatw-almatw nt,etc,etc for his level after 2 years
Now,everything seems to be ONLY what you mentioned

What the random combos 'alatw-batw'? 'pallemove-ahtatw nt'?
There are many fsers in Russia who can do ahtatw nt easily. About moves after alatw - almost nobody trains alatw-batw exactly because its useless, but alatw-htatw (by weak foot too) can do many.

'I remember ARS doing lot of different variations like tatw-batw nt,amatw-matw-nt-amatw-matw nt,alatw-almatw nt,etc,etc for his level after 2 years'
If u didnt know alatw-almatw couldnt be nt, freestyle master :D
Tatw-batw nt - yea, again almost nobody in Russia trains those combos. But if u can do 3 amatw nt and amatw-3matw nt by strong and at least amatw-2matw nt by weak you easily can do ur amatw-matw-amatw-matw nt, idiot. That's why u are almost the one and only freestyler in ur country with poor level - if anybody asks you to help him you can only answer 'just practice'. What a pity

ahahaha,sorry man,in a flow i typed alatw-almatw nt
anyways,it is also a  pity that some of the so called "more hardcore" freestylers in russia cannot do any other variations,they cannot get any combo which anyone challenges...
i still havnt seen pavlinoff do skora nt btw,ahahaah,6 hrs training!!OMG!!!!but no!hes is among the BEST!!
and no,it is useless to train hard and not being able to do any random hardcore combo which you can imagine...
becs-ltatw-amatw nt anyone??heheehe
Also,there are very few btw,who can even do all those basic hardcore which u mentioned,with consistency...

It's average time of trainigs, little kid. Still he can do skatw, eatw and htlatw instead of that.
Ahahah, Did u see any fser who can do latw-alatw-htatw-alatw (strong-weak-weak-weak) on the world? It's random hardcore, but only Skora did it with hmatw and can do it withuot any hard.
Train tb-airjester-ahtatw nt - until u get it don't train anything. It's random hardcore you must be able to do it!
'Also,there are very few btw,who can even do all those basic hardcore which u mentioned,with consistency...' - about consistency just shut up, when Ars came up in Poland some tim ago he was shocked about low consistency of those fsers, and the same is above all Europe :D You can pull off 60 htws but then can't even repeat 40 any time on training.

[vish22]

yes thats a very good combo and i respect that,but i'm sure he cant do a 30move combo with 4 or even 6,2 nts in them..i'm sure he cant do almatw-alatw-latw/atw..because he does all his trainings with movements,only for that combo..then he will of course be special in that category,and even higher average level,but never world class..
yes,and about consistency,i'm sure it is the same in russia,one move they are practicing for they can pull off often,but other hardcore combos,few times..
i cant imagine anyone getting skora nt and latw-ahmatw-alatw in one day's session with 2.5 years training there
PS:I'm comparing your standards with the above average-hardcore standards of europe,who even though cannot do records of indivisual moves...but can get highly advanced combos with unrelated movements..if u want to be the best,you need to first compare with the bests,in everything

[vish22]

just because they dont show any of your variations doesnt know they cant do them.

Max trust me,their training manuals hold them back on loads of combos

[tbc]

 'just practice'. What a pity

hahahaha i love it how blunt you can be sometimes :D

[Max]

hm vish have you seen the video of the competition in russia mirko and gunther were judging? in this video mp an mirko both mainly did amatw nt combos and mp obviously was better than mirko even though he doesnt have the amatw nt record. you would be surprised how consistent ars and mp are ( only good russian freestylers i've met so far). and as far as i know in russia everybody practises like mp and ars so you can be sure they can do great amatw nt combos.

[vish22]

Max,honestly,i feel very very few practice like MP and ARS(german as well),and they are the real deal,
But do you know anyone else? who can even compete with MP and ARS with their last and a half year level??in russia even
or maybe now dunnowhois will tell that he has an equation in which imrpovement varies exponentially with time..