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[dunnowhois]

and 100 such freesylers???are you being practical or are u just praising ure country?
and u said about the fser who can do insane latw-ahmatw-alatw variations..
u tell me..how many amatws nt can he do consistently?how many weak foot ahtatws he can do?

Dunno about consistence, but his record is 5 amatws nt. Ahtatws - as I know, only 2. But he has over 50 atws weak foot and great long combos.
Btw didn't see any other than russian freestyler who would have any good weak foot:(

Nobody has a good weak foot,u need to train it

Yea? :D I'm saying that almost nobody has good weak foot excluding Russia where each 2nd has it great.

[Tupac]

hey my doubt is,how come the south americans practice lesser and improve sooo much more????ahahaha

Less? Who became great all-lower-styles freestyler in SA?

Yes,I agree with you to a certain extent that these guys are not all-lower-style hardcore
but with what they do,they have lots of determination and their improvement seems(to me atleast,who can just sit here and comment on observations)to be more instinctive rather than technical.Ask me if u didnt understand what i said.
OK-
LKR,Diego,and their friends,lol,esteban and few of his friends,lol,Charly,J9,etc..surely dont pracice 5-6 hrs a day and 6 days a week throughout the year(I'm assuming this) and their training efficiency is much higher as they improve at a rapid pace when theyre high on confidence,or so it seems.
And Russians??..Who are we talking about??
German,ARS,MP and anyOne,Akim and absolutely nobody else!(maybe mishik) who are top class
Others arent top class at all in Russia.Maybe theyre on a higher level than average europe,but no where near top class.(maybe they will be?who knows?)
and speaking of being a good "all-style-lower" freestyler?I'm sorry but I havent seen more than 5 russians doing more than 4 amatws nt,dunnowhois!!
PS:i hope u dont take it personal and cmega respect for everyone who trains hard there.

Charly, J9, who are already practicing for 4 years :D
Artes, as it was mentioned above, Pavlinoff (6 ahmatw, 4 amatw nt, tatw-ahtatw nt-combo etc), MK19 (one of the bests 2latw-2ahmatw-2latw-2ahmatw and that style-combos), some guy with eatw-alatw after 1 year of trainings, and there are many others. Then, top-class lower freestylers Russia have more than any other country too, simply you can't see it.

Yes,thats what everyone can see,and big respect for that,you were talking about being hardcore in all lower styles,that is,ah-moves,triple revs.,long combos with 5-6 2nts,NTS(+5),etc. etc.
Russians cant do amatws nt very consistently,and also are poor in long combos with many nts in them,not to mention bec variations.I'm just saying that there is wayyy more to be accomplished in lowers to be "hardcore all-lower-styled" and not just specific moves for specific fsers.

PS-ARS and MP are the bestests

lol man, you say that there is way more to be styled in, not just specific move, and then you point out amatws/batw variations.
There are many russians who are consistent in amatw nt, they get 4 amatw nts in 1/4th of the time it takes most fsers to get that level. Also, you can talk to brian lockyer about batw variations, i heard some guy from russia challenged him to a batw variation thing - he obviously has a high level in becks to challenge brian.

[L_I_S]

Nobody has a good weak foot,u need to train it

Joe Davies never had a weak foot

He spent a year training atw-hatw-atw-hatw etc lol

[vish22]

hey my doubt is,how come the south americans practice lesser and improve sooo much more????ahahaha

Less? Who became great all-lower-styles freestyler in SA?

Yes,I agree with you to a certain extent that these guys are not all-lower-style hardcore
but with what they do,they have lots of determination and their improvement seems(to me atleast,who can just sit here and comment on observations)to be more instinctive rather than technical.Ask me if u didnt understand what i said.
OK-
LKR,Diego,and their friends,lol,esteban and few of his friends,lol,Charly,J9,etc..surely dont pracice 5-6 hrs a day and 6 days a week throughout the year(I'm assuming this) and their training efficiency is much higher as they improve at a rapid pace when theyre high on confidence,or so it seems.
And Russians??..Who are we talking about??
German,ARS,MP and anyOne,Akim and absolutely nobody else!(maybe mishik) who are top class
Others arent top class at all in Russia.Maybe theyre on a higher level than average europe,but no where near top class.(maybe they will be?who knows?)
and speaking of being a good "all-style-lower" freestyler?I'm sorry but I havent seen more than 5 russians doing more than 4 amatws nt,dunnowhois!!
PS:i hope u dont take it personal and cmega respect for everyone who trains hard there.

Charly, J9, who are already practicing for 4 years :D
Artes, as it was mentioned above, Pavlinoff (6 ahmatw, 4 amatw nt, tatw-ahtatw nt-combo etc), MK19 (one of the bests 2latw-2ahmatw-2latw-2ahmatw and that style-combos), some guy with eatw-alatw after 1 year of trainings, and there are many others. Then, top-class lower freestylers Russia have more than any other country too, simply you can't see it.

Yes,thats what everyone can see,and big respect for that,you were talking about being hardcore in all lower styles,that is,ah-moves,triple revs.,long combos with 5-6 2nts,NTS(+5),etc. etc.
Russians cant do amatws nt very consistently,and also are poor in long combos with many nts in them,not to mention bec variations.I'm just saying that there is wayyy more to be accomplished in lowers to be "hardcore all-lower-styled" and not just specific moves for specific fsers.

PS-ARS and MP are the bestests

lol man, you say that there is way more to be styled in, not just specific move, and then you point out amatws/batw variations.
There are many russians who are consistent in amatw nt, they get 4 amatw nts in 1/4th of the time it takes most fsers to get that level. Also, you can talk to brian lockyer about batw variations, i heard some guy from russia challenged him to a batw variation thing - he obviously has a high level in becks to challenge brian

no,their highly inconsistent in nts.,you definately havent observed that.And 4 nts can be attained in less than 5 months,its not that great.and name few who have crossed the hurdle of 4?the world record is probably more than 18 and we are on 4?and youre talking about being the best?
And if youre talking about Pep..his level is more than average in batws but no where near brians

[dunnowhois]

vish22, show me someine who got 4 amatws nt after 5 months of trainings.
You are like zombie talking on drugs - why do you compare average all-style hardcore lower level in Russia to one style of someone whos the best in that in the world? For example, sombody in Russia who has been training for 1 year and have 4 amatws nt to guy wo has been training for already more than 4 years with 17? Doctor needs, really.

[vish22]

vish22, show me someine who got 4 amatws nt after 5 months of trainings.
You are like zombie talking on drugs - why do you compare average all-style hardcore lower level in Russia to one style of someone whos the best in that in the world? For example, sombody in Russia who has been training for 1 year and have 4 amatws nt to guy wo has been training for already more than 4 years with 17? Doctor needs, really.

i said 5 months of training for nts.
You are trying to prove that russian lowers are the best in the world(on a general level)
i'm telling you what the best in the world is,and also telling that russian level is very very high,but not the best
Only MP and ARS are two hardcore real freestylers,best in russia and world

[L_I_S]

vish22, show me someone who got 4 amatws nt after 5 months of trainings.
You are like zombie talking on drugs - why do you compare average all-style hardcore lower level in Russia to one style of someone whos the best in that in the world? For example, sombody in Russia who has been training for 1 year and have 4 amatws nt to guy wo has been training for already more than 4 years with 17? Doctor needs, really.

After training amatw nt for 5 months or after training freestyle from nothing after 5 months?

[dunnowhois]

vish22, ahahah :D If  I trained matws nt, satw, I would reach 4 amatws nt in maximum 2 months!
'i'm telling you what the best in the world is,and also telling that russian level is very very high,but not the best' - then 'the best country in the world' is the country where all fsers are top level? :D
And about Crasso, most bullshit Ive ever heard about nts.

[vish22]

vish22, ahahah :D If  I trained matws nt, satw, I would reach 4 amatws nt in maximum 2 months!
'i'm telling you what the best in the world is,and also telling that russian level is very very high,but not the best' - then 'the best country in the world' is the country where all fsers are top level? :D
And about Crasso, most bullshit Ive ever heard about nts.

Yes,exatly,which Russia isnt as yet,but you are yet claiming it to be..
and there is nothing shitty about Crasso nt imrpvement

[dunnowhois]

vish22, ahahah :D If  I trained matws nt, satw, I would reach 4 amatws nt in maximum 2 months!
'i'm telling you what the best in the world is,and also telling that russian level is very very high,but not the best' - then 'the best country in the world' is the country where all fsers are top level? :D
And about Crasso, most bullshit Ive ever heard about nts.

Yes,exatly,which Russia isnt as yet,but you are yet claiming it to be..
and there is nothing shitty about Crasso nt imrpvement

Quote my wordsa exactly about that! I say about improvement and level of all lower styles! And u still compare 1,5-2 years russians to 4-5 years brazilians and others! As for that, they will suck in some years when those russians will have been training for already the same 4-5 years.
About Crasso, according to your logic train awful skatw, 2 skatws, 10 matw nt with bad style, then change that in some months and cry 'Im motherfucker, I fuck all of you - I did 2 skatws, 10 matw in 2 months'! Idiot.

[tbc]

THIS ARGUMENT IS CONFUSING! AND OFF TOPIC TOO.

[Tupac]

Vish22 you are an idiot.