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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #36 on: Apr 03, 2011, 10:12: PM »
I love crossovers, like when MichRyc does CO, XO & RCO consecutively its awesome! i wanna learn like him and do them over and over again, i think they're cool, and when i do them infront of other people who dont know shit about freestyle, they are amazed

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #37 on: Apr 03, 2011, 10:46: PM »
samuel I'll tell you what man, if co is so pointless and shit because if makes combos easier, why don't you do a 30 move combo with as many crossovers as you need in a video and show it to us instead of showing all the shitty "beck"atw combos that you do in all fucking videos? I learned co-amatw nt, and then landed amatw-amatw nt the next day, and I can bet you my style on that is 100000 times better than yours because you don't practice crossovers at all. Right now you're making a really retarded argument; it's like saying that you don't hjave to learn alatw to land patw because you can already do an latw, does that make sense? and if you say you've got a nice style on tatw's/amatw's, let us see it man. I'm curious to know how you can give such advice if you can't land any proper nt's yourself
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Oh btw I'm not giving advice, I'm relaying what Leha says, and its the reason why every Russian fser sky rockets in ability, they don't practice things they don't need.
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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #38 on: Apr 03, 2011, 10:49: PM »
Samuel, please stop acting like you know everything about lowers.. You cant even do a combo at 10 with cross, neither without. And you say that cross dont help on tatw/amatw style? You havent tried it so how can you say it wouldnt make the style better? Its only logical that cross will help tatw when its atw-cross nt movement. Its like doing palle move before learning amatw, it is possible but it will look like shit.
And Leha, cross-amatw nt helped me a lot with the nt movement before i did amatw amatw nt and tatw amatw nt. And tbh, if you take the hardcore aspect away from most russians would you really say they had good style? I think not..

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #39 on: Apr 03, 2011, 10:58: PM »
Samuel, please stop acting like you know everything about lowers.. You cant even do a combo at 10 with cross, neither without. And you say that cross dont help on tatw/amatw style? You havent tried it so how can you say it wouldnt make the style better? Its only logical that cross will help tatw when its atw-cross nt movement. Its like doing palle move before learning amatw, it is possible but it will look like shit.
And Leha, cross-amatw nt helped me a lot with the nt movement before i did amatw amatw nt and tatw amatw nt. And tbh, if you take the hardcore aspect away from most russians would you really say they had good style? I think not..
Most of russians have good style, yes. And that 'most' is not 3-5 fsers like on other countries, kid.
To all of rest - you have 2nts level and wanna prove smth to me? Of course, if you were russian or higher level, maybe I would agree with you in smth, but your logic would be the same if you did 30 tbs before 1 ahmatw and said 'omg, if I didn't train tbs, my ahmatw style would be shit, yeah!'. If that happenned once, twice, it doesn't mean it's truth. I say all of that out of my experience in 'giving advice' to hardcore fsers.

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #40 on: Apr 03, 2011, 11:20: PM »
Samuel, please stop acting like you know everything about lowers.. You cant even do a combo at 10 with cross, neither without. And you say that cross dont help on tatw/amatw style? You havent tried it so how can you say it wouldnt make the style better? Its only logical that cross will help tatw when its atw-cross nt movement. Its like doing palle move before learning amatw, it is possible but it will look like shit.
And Leha, cross-amatw nt helped me a lot with the nt movement before i did amatw amatw nt and tatw amatw nt. And tbh, if you take the hardcore aspect away from most russians would you really say they had good style? I think not..

that doesnt make any sense. the crossover movement of tatw is a totally different movement to the normal crossover movement.

I really dunno why everybody still argues with leha. This guy really has alot of knowledge about lowers as you can see in every russian freestyler. you guys always say krogseter has such a fucking nice improvement. but the improvement rate is only something special in western countries. i guess in russia it would be just average. you should really stop to argue with leha but rather listen to him if you want to improve faster and become a more skilled freestyler.

As a conclusion: crossover is useless unless you want to become a new version of michryc or dont want to go the hardcore way.
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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #41 on: Apr 03, 2011, 11:29: PM »
okay what the fuck just because someone is russian means he/she is a good freestyler? are you FUCKING kidding me!? fucking dumbest thing I've ever seen here

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #42 on: Apr 03, 2011, 11:54: PM »
okay what the fuck just because someone is russian means he/she is a good freestyler? are you FUCKING kidding me!? fucking dumbest thing I've ever seen here
Btw I'm not a good fser, I already don't even freestyle at all. You should read some my tutorials then.

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #43 on: Apr 04, 2011, 12:25: AM »
okay what the fuck just because someone is russian means he/she is a good freestyler? are you FUCKING kidding me!? fucking dumbest thing I've ever seen here
Btw I'm not a good fser, I already don't even freestyle at all. You should read some my tutorials then.

okay I don't know if you're trying to be sarcastic or not, but whatever. And I have read your tutorials man, but what's that got to do with russian's improving faster than others? If a russian and american (for example) both start out at the same time, keep up with your tutorials, are you saying that the russian will still improve faster? That's what pissed me off..

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #44 on: Apr 04, 2011, 12:42: AM »
okay what the fuck just because someone is russian means he/she is a good freestyler? are you FUCKING kidding me!? fucking dumbest thing I've ever seen here
Btw I'm not a good fser, I already don't even freestyle at all. You should read some my tutorials then.

okay I don't know if you're trying to be sarcastic or not, but whatever. And I have read your tutorials man, but what's that got to do with russian's improving faster than others? If a russian and american (for example) both start out at the same time, keep up with your tutorials, are you saying that the russian will still improve faster? That's what pissed me off..
Yeah, of course, russian will improve faster. I've almost never mention who much fser should train to have huge improvement. So, it's in mind of each other - russian will be more 'adore' to that than american :)

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #45 on: Apr 04, 2011, 12:51: AM »
okay what the fuck just because someone is russian means he/she is a good freestyler? are you FUCKING kidding me!? fucking dumbest thing I've ever seen here

No your post is the fucking dumbest thing here. of course it doesnt have anything to do with being russian, but russians clearly show the best improvement lately ( MP ARS AKIM ARTES GERMAN ANY0NE etc) because they relay on lehas tutorials.
Of course freestylers from every other country could achieve the same improvement if they would practise like russians do. but read the dumb comments in this thread, nobody trusts in what experienced freestylers say and just stick to their own theories. crossovers being important for style and tatw, matw :D bullshit.
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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #46 on: Apr 04, 2011, 04:35: AM »
first of all, would u guys disagree with me if i said that cross is a huge push for people who can do a 10 combo ?
yeah it is obvious that leha has a lot of knowledge, but why did he have shit style ?
if he got sooo much knowledge, then he should be perfectly able to improve his style
i can tell u from own expreience that co helped me to push my nt limits, which would have taken much longer time if i did not learn it step by step
and also when i started freestyle my amatw and co both was bendy, but then i saw how i could improve the cross and my amatw changed also when i got diff co

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #47 on: Apr 04, 2011, 05:08: AM »
first of all, would u guys disagree with me if i said that cross is a huge push for people who can do a 10 combo ?
yeah it is obvious that leha has a lot of knowledge, but why did he have shit style ?
if he got sooo much knowledge, then he should be perfectly able to improve his style
i can tell u from own expreience that co helped me to push my nt limits, which would have taken much longer time if i did not learn it step by step
and also when i started freestyle my amatw and co both was bendy, but then i saw how i could improve the cross and my amatw changed also when i got diff co

Start from end to beginning.
Firstly, your 'nt limits' don't allow you to judge about nts at all.
Then, I will watch at you when you will get your first injury and say 'bye freestyle, but I can't do it more'. I had and have 4 injuries, half of which for the life. Do you know what do you get after injury? For example, you have 40 atws in and you do it proper without any issues, but then you get an injury with knee. What's then? You must re-learn all your technique on atws in and to become master in atws already with that injury. Simply, you learn all of that from the beginning. I had 4 injuries and quitted freestyle after 1 year of getting all of them. My knees were damaged after already 1,5 years of my freestyle, so 2 years with that pain.
Adrian, my advice to you - don't take that hard all comments that you have good improvement or smth that - you have lower than average improvement :/ Why? Because you still train crossovers while other russians perform eatw-alatw after 1 year of freestyle.