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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #24 on: Apr 03, 2011, 05:44: AM »
lol there is a reason why 75% of modern russia's lovely freestylers got shit style, they dont care learning the basics and that has
a following that they do not own style at all.. I thought you knew better, since u are obviously from there

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #25 on: Apr 03, 2011, 05:53: AM »
lol there is a reason why 75% of modern russia's lovely freestylers got shit style, they dont care learning the basics and that has
a following that they do not own style at all.. I thought you knew better, since u are obviously from there
75%? Mention to me at least 5 fsers who really have shit style right now and who trains not for 2 years.
Don't care learning basics? :D Average freestyler in Russia can do 60 htws and 40 hatws, it's average result. For almost all other countries it is someting wild. And of course, all of them take advice on how to improve from better fsers and me.

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #26 on: Apr 03, 2011, 06:30: AM »
lol there is a reason why 75% of modern russia's lovely freestylers got shit style, they dont care learning the basics and that has
a following that they do not own style at all.. I thought you knew better, since u are obviously from there
75%? Mention to me at least 5 fsers who really have shit style right now and who trains not for 2 years.
Don't care learning basics? :D Average freestyler in Russia can do 60 htws and 40 hatws, it's average result. For almost all other countries it is someting wild. And of course, all of them take advice on how to improve from better fsers and me.
how long they have practiced has nothing to do with this case, you said co does not affect either improvement nor style
and that is such a stupid comment, since it is very rare that example the cross in amatw is different than a normal cross
can u please give me some feedback on why u say like u do
by not learning the basics i mean that u dont even care to learn a well executed htw, and that was one example
i will not mention people with shit style because then i would have been going thru youtube for ages, since i know just the big names in russia freestyle
but from what i have seen of videos connected to russia, it is not often i see a smooth style

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #27 on: Apr 03, 2011, 06:42: AM »
your style doesnt have anything to do with a crossover. the shit style on nts (bend style) is connected to a rush on matw nt and it really doesnt have anything to do with crossovers.

furthermore it is realy not important to learn cross. i can do many amatw nt with quite smooth style and i have never done cross amatw nt.
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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #28 on: Apr 03, 2011, 06:49: AM »
lol there is a reason why 75% of modern russia's lovely freestylers got shit style, they dont care learning the basics and that has
a following that they do not own style at all.. I thought you knew better, since u are obviously from there
75%? Mention to me at least 5 fsers who really have shit style right now and who trains not for 2 years.
Don't care learning basics? :D Average freestyler in Russia can do 60 htws and 40 hatws, it's average result. For almost all other countries it is someting wild. And of course, all of them take advice on how to improve from better fsers and me.
how long they have practiced has nothing to do with this case, you said co does not affect either improvement nor style
and that is such a stupid comment, since it is very rare that example the cross in amatw is different than a normal cross
can u please give me some feedback on why u say like u do
by not learning the basics i mean that u dont even care to learn a well executed htw, and that was one example
i will not mention people with shit style because then i would have been going thru youtube for ages, since i know just the big names in russia freestyle
but from what i have seen of videos connected to russia, it is not often i see a smooth style
Are you gonna mention at least 5 russian fsers with shit style who started their training not later than 2 years ago? If you are consider that 75% have bad style, minimum 150 russian fsers have bad style, call at least 5 of them. I guess you judge only my style saying about proper htws, and maybe some others.
To be honest, latest vids I've seen from all the freestyle world I hardly can see some freestyle on them.

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #29 on: Apr 03, 2011, 06:52: AM »
your style doesnt have anything to do with a crossover. the shit style on nts (bend style) is connected to a rush on matw nt and it really doesnt have anything to do with crossovers.

furthermore it is realy not important to learn cross. i can do many amatw nt with quite smooth style and i have never done cross amatw nt.
i had shit style at crossover and amatw when i started, when i trained my crossover alot my style became less bendy and my amatw did get affected by that .. so i tell u by own experience,  and would u said training co amatw nt before attempting amatw amatw nt will make it easier or not ?

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #30 on: Apr 03, 2011, 06:59: AM »
your style doesnt have anything to do with a crossover. the shit style on nts (bend style) is connected to a rush on matw nt and it really doesnt have anything to do with crossovers.

furthermore it is realy not important to learn cross. i can do many amatw nt with quite smooth style and i have never done cross amatw nt.
i had shit style at crossover and amatw when i started, when i trained my crossover alot my style became less bendy and my amatw did get affected by that .. so i tell u by own experience,  and would u said training co amatw nt before attempting amatw amatw nt will make it easier or not ?

would like to see your shit style on amatw and crossovers. and no i wouldnt  say cross amatw nt helps on amatw amatw nt. its a different motion.
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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #31 on: Apr 03, 2011, 07:07: AM »
your style doesnt have anything to do with a crossover. the shit style on nts (bend style) is connected to a rush on matw nt and it really doesnt have anything to do with crossovers.

furthermore it is realy not important to learn cross. i can do many amatw nt with quite smooth style and i have never done cross amatw nt.
i had shit style at crossover and amatw when i started, when i trained my crossover alot my style became less bendy and my amatw did get affected by that .. so i tell u by own experience,  and would u said training co amatw nt before attempting amatw amatw nt will make it easier or not ?

would like to see your shit style on amatw and crossovers. and no i wouldnt  say cross amatw nt helps on amatw amatw nt. its a different motion.
You could just train your htws from hands and got pretty good style for amatws.
Yea, I'm some out of that 'a few' russian fsers - I practiced co-amatw nt before thinking that it was gonna help me to learn matw-amatw nt, but it wasn't. I've learnt matw-amatw nt in 2 months after co-amatw nt and didn't see any improving in nts after co-amatw nt.

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #32 on: Apr 03, 2011, 09:15: AM »
what about co - ahtatw/ahmatw/latw nt and other bigger nts?
michryc's combos?
phoenix atw?
crabass?
if you had bend style co, you should not do those combos/moves

or maybe those moves aren't freestyle football  :embarrassed:
the problem is that I see most russians doing the same stuff over and over. I don't hate it (I really love it), but you don't respect other people's style. You think your style is REAL freestyle.
Then when you do some "creative" stuff you all get so orgasmic. "FU!@#!@# HE DID co - 360 atw nt!" DAMN!

you should master all moves to have great style overall, more control, and more variety. I'm not saying specifically co, but even other shit like tb.
one question to Dr. Leha, what do you think of freestylers like yamato, yo, martin schopf, jeon kwon etc...? are they freestylers? or must they learn amatw - 15x matw nt?

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #33 on: Apr 03, 2011, 03:01: PM »
Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
I strongly disagree, cross is (almost) completely useless.
Leha is right, especially when those new fucks do atw-atw-co-atw --- BULLMOTHAFUCKINSHIT! It's worthless for improving, there's no point in training style on a co, train style on tatw/amatw/atatw.

? should he give up lowers too?
If you were being serious you're an idiot, and if you were trying to be funny you're an idiot.
neither, i was being logical. if he wants to train something. no one tells him it is useless.
and as for you..logic doesnt work. some people like crossover, for example michryc and i find his freestyle very interesting.
Oh yeah, it's totally logical to quit freestyle because someone says not to train cross. Cross gives you almost nothing improvement wise.
wow, rlly do you have any knowledge about lowers at all?
u really think people would learn stuff like amatw amatw nt as fast as they does when they train co amatw nt ?
cross over is a always a push in the start, and for u saying it is not giving any improvement is shit
it is one of the most important trick in freestyle and it is so important to learn it correct with good style cause it affects your whole freestyle career
I have shit co style and good tatw/amatw style. why? because I spend time training tatw and amatw, not crossover.  
I don't have good knowledge but I know what not to train.
Walter if you really want to train cross over, go for it. I respect that, just know it will not help you much (if any) if you want to do multiple nts.

edit: I didn't read this
 
your style doesnt have anything to do with a crossover. the shit style on nts (bend style) is connected to a rush on matw nt and it really doesnt have anything to do with crossovers.

furthermore it is realy not important to learn cross. i can do many amatw nt with quite smooth style and i have never done cross amatw nt.
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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #34 on: Apr 03, 2011, 05:17: PM »
what about co - ahtatw/ahmatw/latw nt and other bigger nts?
michryc's combos?
phoenix atw?
crabass?
if you had bend style co, you should not do those combos/moves

or maybe those moves aren't freestyle football  :embarrassed:
the problem is that I see most russians doing the same stuff over and over. I don't hate it (I really love it), but you don't respect other people's style. You think your style is REAL freestyle.
Then when you do some "creative" stuff you all get so orgasmic. "FU!@#!@# HE DID co - 360 atw nt!" DAMN!

you should master all moves to have great style overall, more control, and more variety. I'm not saying specifically co, but even other shit like tb.
one question to Dr. Leha, what do you think of freestylers like yamato, yo, martin schopf, jeon kwon etc...? are they freestylers? or must they learn amatw - 15x matw nt?


They learn bigger nts like amatw-ahtatw/ahmatw/latw nt instead of cross.
And do you really believe that this guy is the next japanese or michryc? I don't, that's why I give him that advice.

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Re: how to improve co style
« Reply #35 on: Apr 03, 2011, 10:04: PM »
samuel I'll tell you what man, if co is so pointless and shit because if makes combos easier, why don't you do a 30 move combo with as many crossovers as you need in a video and show it to us instead of showing all the shitty "beck"atw combos that you do in all fucking videos? I learned co-amatw nt, and then landed amatw-amatw nt the next day, and I can bet you my style on that is 100000 times better than yours because you don't practice crossovers at all. Right now you're making a really retarded argument; it's like saying that you don't have to learn alatw to land patw because you can already do an latw, does that make sense? and if you say you've got a nice style on tatw's/amatw's, let us see it man. I'm curious to know how you can give such advice if you can't land any proper nt's yourself