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Offline Alex17

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #36 on: Oct 22, 2010, 06:27: AM »
I use normally on daily basis a fully pumped ball. After i read this topic, i decided to decrease the air in my ball and train for at least one day with a soft ball. The results; it was much easier to do longer combos, less effort on weak foot, less slippery, but less control.
Fully pumped balls are slippery.

im going to my regular pumped ball.
doesnt longer combos mean u have better control?

yes and no

Some people have control while executing a combo, but when it comes to juggling there no control...
For example people who just flick up the ball and juggle ones then does a trick....

for me i have good control when i use a hard ball, but when juggling a soft ball i expect to pop up as a hard ball, then i loose control.

Get me?
i think i get you, so u can basically direct a heavy ball in a preferred direction than a softer one..

You get me  :PDT_Armataz_01_37:
So yeah, i perfer heavier ball, but a soft ball can help on certain things......
Still kinda the same....

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #37 on: Oct 22, 2010, 06:33: AM »
sorry but don't is important the air in the ball , because if i use a strong ball  ,for me is more difficult , because i use a soft ball , if mp,ars,tom folan or another freestylers use a soft ball  have more problem at close good combo. if you usa a ball size 4 and not 5 size is cheat.

  for the same motivation we can use adidas shoes or nike , nike are more soft shoes , but if a person use nike don't usea trick for play a better freestyle 
What do you need for nts? Yea, stamina. Its harder to do, e.g., 10 amatw nt with fully inflated ball, than with deflated

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #38 on: Oct 22, 2010, 08:38: AM »
sorry but don't is important the air in the ball , because if i use a strong ball  ,for me is more difficult , because i use a soft ball , if mp,ars,tom folan or another freestylers use a soft ball  have more problem at close good combo. if you usa a ball size 4 and not 5 size is cheat.

  for the same motivation we can use adidas shoes or nike , nike are more soft shoes , but if a person use nike don't usea trick for play a better freestyle  

What do you need for nts? Yea, stamina. Its harder to do, e.g., 10 amatw nt with fully inflated ball, than with deflated
personally i use fully inflated ball - and i made this thread to see other guy's opinion

after all i read i am just wonderin what the point of having 100 per cent inflated ball - just to make it harder?
then if somebody does 10 amatw nt with a round rock - will that be considered a bigger achievement??


what i 've got out of this thread - it doesn't matter - it's a matter of taste and opinion and it's wrong to say that 17 amatw nt of mirko with the ball with less air is not as cool as 11 amatw nt of MP but with 100 per cent inflated ball cuz that's pure bullshit to make such comparisons based on some messed up opinion about air in the ball

p.s. when the ball is rock hard it's bad for knees too and i think i may have to pump it like 90% now since that's a big concern for me

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #39 on: Oct 22, 2010, 09:51: AM »
Rocks ftw

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #40 on: Oct 23, 2010, 01:11: AM »
sorry but don't is important the air in the ball , because if i use a strong ball  ,for me is more difficult , because i use a soft ball , if mp,ars,tom folan or another freestylers use a soft ball  have more problem at close good combo. if you usa a ball size 4 and not 5 size is cheat.

  for the same motivation we can use adidas shoes or nike , nike are more soft shoes , but if a person use nike don't usea trick for play a better freestyle 

What do you need for nts? Yea, stamina. Its harder to do, e.g., 10 amatw nt with fully inflated ball, than with deflated
personally i use fully inflated ball - and i made this thread to see other guy's opinion

after all i read i am just wonderin what the point of having 100 per cent inflated ball - just to make it harder?
then if somebody does 10 amatw nt with a round rock - will that be considered a bigger achievement??


what i 've got out of this thread - it doesn't matter - it's a matter of taste and opinion and it's wrong to say that 17 amatw nt of mirko with the ball with less air is not as cool as 11 amatw nt of MP but with 100 per cent inflated ball cuz that's pure bullshit to make such comparisons based on some messed up opinion about air in the ball

p.s. when the ball is rock hard it's bad for knees too and i think i may have to pump it like 90% now since that's a big concern for me
Would be really nice if it was accepted to make some basic list of rules how ball should be pumped. Because it's all easier to do with deflated ball, except long combos.

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #41 on: Oct 23, 2010, 01:37: AM »
dunno how is it easier to do long combos with softer ball for some of you guys
for me it's impossible, soft ball is good for nts but definitely not for long combos

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #42 on: Oct 23, 2010, 02:07: AM »
dunno how is it easier to do long combos with softer ball for some of you guys
for me it's impossible, soft ball is good for nts but definitely not for long combos
Noooooo! The other way around. It is much easier to do matw nt with a pumped ball that has a consistant pop than a flat ball that moves were it wants.[It's still possible to do the same combo, but with a pumped ball, you don't have to move around as much]

Even if it is easier one way or another, why would it be considered "cheating"? Everyone can have their ball with any amount of air, there's nothing stopping you. It's more effective/efficient to use the easier way, correct?
Why would you make things difficult for yourself?
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Re: how much air?
« Reply #43 on: Oct 23, 2010, 04:28: AM »
dunno how is it easier to do long combos with softer ball for some of you guys
for me it's impossible, soft ball is good for nts but definitely not for long combos
Noooooo! The other way around. It is much easier to do matw nt with a pumped ball that has a consistant pop than a flat ball that moves were it wants.[It's still possible to do the same combo, but with a pumped ball, you don't have to move around as much]

Even if it is easier one way or another, why would it be considered "cheating"? Everyone can have their ball with any amount of air, there's nothing stopping you. It's more effective/efficient to use the easier way, correct?
Why would you make things difficult for yourself?
yeah you may be right, but my main point was that long combos are impossible with a soft ball
and i don't use a hard one just because someone said it's the right way, i use it cause it's better for me, and everyone should do the same (do it their way, not my way ofc)

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #44 on: Oct 23, 2010, 05:27: AM »
after going through the topic i think the size of the ball maybe cheating, but the amount of air doesnt matter because it doesnt change the size and the leg has to do the same thing around it, more air or less air :)
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Re: how much air?
« Reply #45 on: Oct 23, 2010, 05:37: AM »
after going through the topic i think the size of the ball maybe cheating, but the amount of air doesnt matter because it doesnt change the size and the leg has to do the same thing around it, more air or less air :)
size of a pennis is cheating - the bigger - the harder to nt and lemmens tricks

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #46 on: Oct 23, 2010, 09:20: AM »
don't post on here much but this thread has annoyed me..

Does it matter what size or how soft the ball is? We are free [Notice.. FREEstyle] to do whatever we want. Saying its "cheating" is just damn right stupid and that sort of competitiveness could ruin our fragile yet revolutionary sport that we all love doing.

Just saying..   :039:

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #47 on: Oct 23, 2010, 11:20: PM »
ShaneW, typical bf user who can argue only with 'its FREEstyle, guys, get attention to that'