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Offline Ricke

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #24 on: Oct 19, 2010, 12:51: AM »
How is it better for lower? it feels alot heavier to lift for me if it's soft..

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #25 on: Oct 19, 2010, 02:39: AM »
mine has around 80% air, i used to have it very hard, then when in brazil i slowly changed and its much better for hardcore lower.. jonathas from br has a ridiculously soft ball as well!
you mean 8%?

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #26 on: Oct 19, 2010, 05:08: AM »
what about palle - asuming he invented lowers - what's his ball like?

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #27 on: Oct 19, 2010, 04:16: PM »
How is it better for lower? it feels alot heavier to lift for me if it's soft..
When the ball is soft, you can get it MUCH higher a lot easier. ;)

what about palle - asuming he invented lowers - what's his ball like?
It's red, with little white dragons on it.. and umm... round... :D

On a serious note, it's normally pumped. Not rock hard, but definitely not soft either. I'd say it's around the 80% mark that Dan mentioned and as far as I can remember, Rocco, Azun and the likes have it the same.
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Re: how much air?
« Reply #28 on: Oct 20, 2010, 10:22: PM »
Who cares? Doesn't matter how pumped ball you play imo. It's just matter of taste. Many of fsers are still changing their balls. Remember when Skora used really hard ball and now.. check out his ball, it's probably even softer then mine  :sign0065:

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #29 on: Oct 21, 2010, 03:34: AM »
I had hip pain when i used my ball pumped up in the last months. especially when i did combos like latw hmatw alatw where you have to lift the ball high from a low point. today i made the ball soft like footwork team has their balls and i have to say its feels much better for my hip. its hard to control the ball though but you just need some time to get used to it imo,
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Re: how much air?
« Reply #30 on: Oct 21, 2010, 05:21: AM »
I had hip pain when i used my ball pumped up in the last months. especially when i did combos like latw hmatw alatw where you have to lift the ball high from a low point. today i made the ball soft like footwork team has their balls and i have to say its feels much better for my hip. its hard to control the ball though but you just need some time to get used to it imo,
yeah it's true :)
I've destroyed my left knee because of it and that's why I quit doing nt combos. Moreover using soft ball, you put less effort to long combo imo :]

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #31 on: Oct 21, 2010, 08:01: PM »
i used to have it around the 60-80% depending on how i felt, but since i met joe davies i decided i'd go for the full pumped ball because i used to play football and it's much handier being able to fs with a hard ball in case someone wants you to show them some skill xD

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #32 on: Oct 22, 2010, 05:17: AM »
I use normally on daily basis a fully pumped ball. After i read this topic, i decided to decrease the air in my ball and train for at least one day with a soft ball. The results; it was much easier to do longer combos, less effort on weak foot, less slippery, but less control.
Fully pumped balls are slippery.

im going to my regular pumped ball.

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #33 on: Oct 22, 2010, 05:53: AM »
I use normally on daily basis a fully pumped ball. After i read this topic, i decided to decrease the air in my ball and train for at least one day with a soft ball. The results; it was much easier to do longer combos, less effort on weak foot, less slippery, but less control.
Fully pumped balls are slippery.

im going to my regular pumped ball.
doesnt longer combos mean u have better control?
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Re: how much air?
« Reply #34 on: Oct 22, 2010, 06:09: AM »
I use normally on daily basis a fully pumped ball. After i read this topic, i decided to decrease the air in my ball and train for at least one day with a soft ball. The results; it was much easier to do longer combos, less effort on weak foot, less slippery, but less control.
Fully pumped balls are slippery.

im going to my regular pumped ball.
doesnt longer combos mean u have better control?

yes and no

Some people have control while executing a combo, but when it comes to juggling there no control...
For example people who just flick up the ball and juggle ones then does a trick....

for me i have good control when i use a hard ball, but when juggling a soft ball i expect to pop up as a hard ball, then i loose control.

Get me?

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Re: how much air?
« Reply #35 on: Oct 22, 2010, 06:19: AM »
I use normally on daily basis a fully pumped ball. After i read this topic, i decided to decrease the air in my ball and train for at least one day with a soft ball. The results; it was much easier to do longer combos, less effort on weak foot, less slippery, but less control.
Fully pumped balls are slippery.

im going to my regular pumped ball.
doesnt longer combos mean u have better control?

yes and no

Some people have control while executing a combo, but when it comes to juggling there no control...
For example people who just flick up the ball and juggle ones then does a trick....

for me i have good control when i use a hard ball, but when juggling a soft ball i expect to pop up as a hard ball, then i loose control.

Get me?
i think i get you, so u can basically direct a heavy ball in a preferred direction than a softer one..
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