Жопа шлюха russians sucks tuna

[SAVICH]

Giniu, i dont mean you, when write about people, who dont understand the situation. I mean such comments as : "they made the vid because they were jelous luki won prague and they were jelous of his style", etc. If you noticed, using words such as suka - a personal initiative inject. Not mine. Those words : suka, kurwa, etc - simply joke, I dont remember such reaction of russian guys, when, for ex. Wiezak made comment like "kurwa pojebana", when Luki wrote to Turlakov : http://i053.radikal.ru/1009/0d/34e98f3a18aa.jpg kurwa kurwa kurwa - frequently used word. They werent angry at this, and perceived as a joke. But when russian guys do smth like that, all freestyle world said, that they were idiots, etc.
Max, can you answer my question?

[JonKonik]

One thing needs to be clarified: Savich in one of his previous pointless replies said (forgive me if i didn't get through his use of language well) sth that they were looking for an answer from Luki about names of tricks (that Luki has the right to name his tricks with "..." while when Russians did the same it's wrong and OMG). Well, I'll answer you because you seemed not to know that someone is mature enough to hold back from any reaction.

As all you guys can see none of Luki's videos (one exception is Luki atm but it's the most innovative one) in which he showed some new combinations are named with "Luki move", "Luki trick" or "Luki do the combination which all of Russians are dreaming to nail". They wrote "To gangsterskie opowiesci" with the number: 1, 2, 3 which means in English "It's gangster's story" and it's a piece of lyrics from the song used in video. He always was strongly against naming all of this rolls which noone can remember: what's the difference between esk atm and baruzdin roll: forgive me, I don't know and I doubt if anyone on this forum can.

When it comes to one of the RedBull's videos from South Africa he HAD TO invent a name of one of his tricks because they HAD TO wrote sth in the video. Thus, instead of writing something from the lyrics of Polish SOng (this would be fucking stupid) he told the editor the simplest name: Rollercoaster 4. Once more you guys get owned.

Furthermore, our reply was not to humilliate you but to make funny video and point out that you are completely immature bunch of idiots, whose self-evaluation is for sure too strong. I guess they wil be some other replies from us not to show that we are more mature beacause Luki's lack of reaction showed it perfectly but mock you and provide more fun to bf community.

Savich you said that once again BF discovered a lot of idiots. It's a pity that most of them live in your country and I really wish you guys were like ARS who is very friendly and respect others.

I'm sure that there won't be any battle between you and Luki because his achievments show exactly who is better while his flow and style is something you can only dream of. Sorry for my English    

Who the fuck is going to read all that shit, are you planning to write a novel?
Luki is so much better than you Russians and is a much more consistent performer. END

hahahaha Lumatt is polish you fucking retard! hes defending Luki...
you just owned yourself son..  

I wasn't just pointing that out generally.  
Of course he's polish.  

[L_I_S]

OK this is fucking stupid, this is really all about luki naming his tricks

im sorry but once you get into harder facerolls and you want to tell somone what you did your not gonna go

"I did an upper variation of face rolls"
FUCK THAT

im gonna say i did (aproll-rproll-rproll-sidehead-aproll-rproll (np))

whats the big fucking deal with everyone having a problem with naming upper tricks? ok i get it, it gets outta control with EVERYONE trying to name an upper trick after themselves, but leave us with aproll, rproll, proll because this is where almost all upper rolls originate from, in some shape or form.

With out the ability to name upper rolls, you're not going to be able to tell someone what the fuck you just did. I don't see the problem with just having aproll,rproll,proll. can someone tell me whats wrong with that?

it puts too much focus on these rolls. upper is way more than just some rolls around your head. for example take the ,,conscutive 360s'' ( i just call them like that) from luki. they are way harder to do than rolls but nobody cares about them because there is allready way too much focus on these stupid rolls.

That's like saying we shouldn't have names for ltatw, ahmatw because they take away the focus from lmatw and tatw. If something is being used very often, it should have some sort of name. It's alot more convenient for freestylers.
I agree with Sam. But there are freestylers that are doing combos and naming them, but that also applies for lowers.

[26spyker]

english please 

[Max]

OK this is fucking stupid, this is really all about luki naming his tricks

im sorry but once you get into harder facerolls and you want to tell somone what you did your not gonna go

"I did an upper variation of face rolls"
FUCK THAT

im gonna say i did (aproll-rproll-rproll-sidehead-aproll-rproll (np))

whats the big fucking deal with everyone having a problem with naming upper tricks? ok i get it, it gets outta control with EVERYONE trying to name an upper trick after themselves, but leave us with aproll, rproll, proll because this is where almost all upper rolls originate from, in some shape or form.

With out the ability to name upper rolls, you're not going to be able to tell someone what the fuck you just did. I don't see the problem with just having aproll,rproll,proll. can someone tell me whats wrong with that?

it puts too much focus on these rolls. upper is way more than just some rolls around your head. for example take the ,,conscutive 360s'' ( i just call them like that) from luki. they are way harder to do than rolls but nobody cares about them because there is allready way too much focus on these stupid rolls.

That's like saying we shouldn't have names for ltatw, ahmatw because they take away the focus from lmatw and tatw. If something is being used very often, it should have some sort of name. It's alot more convenient for freestylers.
I agree with Sam. But there are freestylers that are doing combos and naming them, but that also applies for lowers.

imo they shouldnt be named because people who ware new to the scene think they just have to be good at rolls to get respect. thats just the same what happenend to lowers with nt combos some years ago and imo uppers should be more like one flow instead of many single tricks. hard to explain..

[alexfs]

First of all, I totally agree with Miran that doing hardcore uppers are equally harmful for our health as lowers, so it's not the point. I think it's high time we got some strict medical infos about what kind of muscles are especially exposed so we can protect them or sth.

But do you think its is normal to write any claim addressed to russian guys by people, who totally not understand the situation? Only few people, besides Luki knew the situation.

Well, if you thought that Lumatt answered you without any knowledge on subject i have to put you right: he was talking either me or Luki. Your video presents your own rights ( i would say even totally vulgar and disrespective words such as "suka", which means "bitch". I would think twice before i will use such word to a guy whose I know, not even saying about someone whose i didn't meet). Maybe it's time to share this conversation with other members because it clearly presents your immaturity and lack of any sensible arguments.

Whole case starts from Luki's expressing his opinion in this topic: http://www.beyondfootball.com/forum/index.php?topic=11647.msg188399#msg188399 . Let's analyse it because it's very interesting indeed.

Luki: "Baruzdin move, apavel move...
People, stop calling it! It is variation of roller and it sounds stupid when somebody says he did Baruzdin Roll or apavel Roll or something like that(no offence to baruzdin and pavel) and it is pointless ."

Savich: "its stupid to use hands in body combos, lol. all remember genius tricks named by luki. for ex : roller coaster 4. so, i think, you should shut up. if you are noob in rolls, it doesnt mean, that you can write bullshit"

Well, all of you guys will agree with me that argument used by Savich about using hands in reply to Luki's opinions on rolls was "creative" if not totally stupid. 
Secondly, Savich seemed not to know about whole situation connected with using name: Rollercoaster no.4 in RedBull video. If you are too stupid to understand it from conversation with Luki, which I' ll show in a while, Lumatt's previous comment gave you an answer.
Finally, a term "noob in rolls" comparing Luki and you guys from Russia are as rational as describing Skora as "noob in amatws" in comparison to 19-tricks-combo made by Mirko.

Here is the conversation with Luki:

luki:
Did you see redbull's movie in which I did this roller? If you don't know what was going on in there, then YOU should shut up. People from german tv were recording some of us and didn't ask us about REAL names of tricks. I told them it was combo, they told me they want a name. So would should I tell? Savich roller?
And, btw , do you call/name airtricks in which you use hands?  Oh, I didn't notice that... Nobody named it! Because it IS stupid.  So why do we should name all the rollers?
Why do all russian guys want to have their own names of tricks? Tell me why? This question is really interesting to me.
I have nothing against you. I told I don't like calling rollers, not people who are doing rollers. Do you understand? This is the difference. And you have shown, that you have something against me. If you tell me I shouldn't take part in this topic because I cannot do rollers, I can told you that  you should not take part in this topic because you don't have any experience in upper.
Tell me, what do you have against me. Simply tell me.

I am sorry for my english. Do not make fun of this.

savich: and what do you suggest?

luki: Why do you attack me when I told my opinion? I didn't attack anyone, do you know what does "respect" mean? Not to freestylers who do you know, I mean respect to people .

savich: at first : answer my question

luki: I asked as first. I want you to answer.

savich: different high-flown words about respect and friendship have nothing to talk about uppers. my opinion about you only getting worse with every post. answer specifically and without words without any information, or the conversation is over

luki: Are you from Russia?

savich: yes. what does that have to talk?

luki: I only asked. Bye

savich: lol

As you can see whole conversation was like a dialogue with a donkey. What kind of question mentioned Savich? I don't know. Luki doesn't know. Lumatt doesn't know. Maybe a question about using name rollercoaster no. 4. If so you got the answer.
Words about respect are for sure not high-flown, but they are only a sign of good manners. "words about respect and friendship have nothing to talk about uppers", but "Luki sucks tuna" has. HAHAHAHA. Pure bullshit.

I made this video not to present our complex of superiority or sth. I made six parts of efreestyle mixes which you can find on youtube. Of course noone outside Poland can understand them because thaey are in Polish, but they contain jokes dedicated to Polish freestylers. Did one of them feel touched with this. Maybe Szymo? No. Why is that. The difference is that we are able to laugh at ourselves and noone said and noone will say that It's humiliating. I wanted to make funny video to poke fun at you, at your attitude. And fogive me, telling that I laughed at Baruzdin's injure? HAHHAHAa. I don't know if he is friendly. Probably it's true. However, I can assure you that none of Polish freestylers will upload even such hard trick as HTLATW with such "control" on this even if he is injured.

I don't know what would you like to put in your reply, but if you want to show my lack of progress in last three years, I have to tell you that it' isn't funny cause i often hear it from my Polish friends and I don't care.  You guys are the great example that lack of humour goes hand in hand with lack of intelligence. My congrats!

thank you for this post - very interesting - also thank you for putting "super cool" style of savich at the end of the video - i can imagine his feminine face after watchin it  
once again great reply from poland

[L_I_S]

OK this is fucking stupid, this is really all about luki naming his tricks

im sorry but once you get into harder facerolls and you want to tell somone what you did your not gonna go

"I did an upper variation of face rolls"
FUCK THAT

im gonna say i did (aproll-rproll-rproll-sidehead-aproll-rproll (np))

whats the big fucking deal with everyone having a problem with naming upper tricks? ok i get it, it gets outta control with EVERYONE trying to name an upper trick after themselves, but leave us with aproll, rproll, proll because this is where almost all upper rolls originate from, in some shape or form.

With out the ability to name upper rolls, you're not going to be able to tell someone what the fuck you just did. I don't see the problem with just having aproll,rproll,proll. can someone tell me whats wrong with that?

it puts too much focus on these rolls. upper is way more than just some rolls around your head. for example take the ,,conscutive 360s'' ( i just call them like that) from luki. they are way harder to do than rolls but nobody cares about them because there is allready way too much focus on these stupid rolls.

That's like saying we shouldn't have names for ltatw, ahmatw because they take away the focus from lmatw and tatw. If something is being used very often, it should have some sort of name. It's alot more convenient for freestylers.
I agree with Sam. But there are freestylers that are doing combos and naming them, but that also applies for lowers.

imo they shouldnt be named because people who are new to the scene think they just have to be good at rolls to get respect. thats just the same what happenend to lowers with nt combos some years ago and imo uppers should be more like one flow instead of many single tricks. hard to explain..

I understand what you are saying. But, if the freestyler thinks like that, that's the persons problem. Not freestyle ;)

[Tupac]

OK this is fucking stupid, this is really all about luki naming his tricks

im sorry but once you get into harder facerolls and you want to tell somone what you did your not gonna go

"I did an upper variation of face rolls"
FUCK THAT

im gonna say i did (aproll-rproll-rproll-sidehead-aproll-rproll (np))

whats the big fucking deal with everyone having a problem with naming upper tricks? ok i get it, it gets outta control with EVERYONE trying to name an upper trick after themselves, but leave us with aproll, rproll, proll because this is where almost all upper rolls originate from, in some shape or form.

With out the ability to name upper rolls, you're not going to be able to tell someone what the fuck you just did. I don't see the problem with just having aproll,rproll,proll. can someone tell me whats wrong with that?

it puts too much focus on these rolls. upper is way more than just some rolls around your head. for example take the ,,conscutive 360s'' ( i just call them like that) from luki. they are way harder to do than rolls but nobody cares about them because there is allready way too much focus on these stupid rolls.

That's like saying we shouldn't have names for ltatw, ahmatw because they take away the focus from lmatw and tatw. If something is being used very often, it should have some sort of name. It's alot more convenient for freestylers.
I agree with Sam. But there are freestylers that are doing combos and naming them, but that also applies for lowers.

imo they shouldnt be named because people who ware new to the scene think they just have to be good at rolls to get respect. thats just the same what happenend to lowers with nt combos some years ago and imo uppers should be more like one flow instead of many single tricks. hard to explain..

i kinda see what your saying, you can get a good flow with rolls though too :p. but all im saying is YES people are getting outta control with naming upper rolls, practically every upper roll is a combonation of aproll/rproll/proll. so imo we should just have those 3 tricks, and screw eskroll/barazhudinroll/ect. (no offense to them)

but the way i look at it is like this,
rproll-rproll-rproll (np) is the same thing as atw-atw-atw, its a combo  therefor there is no need to name it since it is a combo.

people are going insane over naming tricks after themselves, its really pathetic, since facerolls are relatively a newer thing to fs, everyone thinks they have a right to name it after themselves once the land a certain amount of reverse pavel rolls no pause.

[lumatt]

Maybe I'm the only one, but hearing ...-...-... NP I am thinking of "No Problem" 

[Liicht]

post this in freestyle jokes!  

i for sure laughed my ass off :D

[Tupac]

Maybe I'm the only one, but hearing ...-...-... NP I am thinking of "No Problem" 

it actually stands for "no-pause" as in there is no pause between the tricks.   

[Max]

Maybe I'm the only one, but hearing ...-...-... NP I am thinking of "No Problem" 

it actually stands for "no-pause" as in there is no pause between the tricks.   

thats obvious you idiot you didnt own anybody.