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Re: Touzani lp
« Reply #36 on: Aug 15, 2009, 12:42: AM »
i think people dont care about hard tricks it depends the way u do it if u have a good style and flow with it or if u just perform like a robot the crowd will fell it u can do a latw with no style and no flow and 2 atws with style and flow the crowd will prefer the atws ,they know thats easier but they just want to see a show, not a training...
as said me séan the most important its not what u do but how u do

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Im a freestyler, not a clown.

insted of doing easy shit for them to understand, we should make our tricks so good that it will be entertaining for everyone.

i will work hard to make aircombos entertaining! that is my mission for the future!

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Re: Touzani lp
« Reply #37 on: Aug 16, 2009, 02:39: PM »
i think people dont care about hard tricks it depends the way u do it if u have a good style and flow with it or if u just perform like a robot the crowd will fell it u can do a latw with no style and no flow and 2 atws with style and flow the crowd will prefer the atws ,they know thats easier but they just want to see a show, not a training...
as said me séan the most important its not what u do but how u do

wass

Im a freestyler, not a clown.

insted of doing easy shit for them to understand, we should make our tricks so good that it will be entertaining for everyone.

i will work hard to make aircombos entertaining! that is my mission for the future!


I'd realy like to see you do that so I'll have an idea. Because air combos, IMO, can never be entertaining. The 2: hardcore and entertaining just doesn't mix.
People should have respect for both, but non freestylers will always love Sean and Jeon Kwon more than Skora in an lp, that is also a fact.
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Re: Touzani lp
« Reply #38 on: Aug 16, 2009, 03:13: PM »
i think people dont care about hard tricks it depends the way u do it if u have a good style and flow with it or if u just perform like a robot the crowd will fell it u can do a latw with no style and no flow and 2 atws with style and flow the crowd will prefer the atws ,they know thats easier but they just want to see a show, not a training...
as said me séan the most important its not what u do but how u do

wass

Im a freestyler, not a clown.

insted of doing easy shit for them to understand, we should make our tricks so good that it will be entertaining for everyone.

i will work hard to make aircombos entertaining! that is my mission for the future!


I'd realy like to see you do that so I'll have an idea. Because air combos, IMO, can never be entertaining. The 2: hardcore and entertaining just doesn't mix.
People should have respect for both, but non freestylers will always love Sean and Jeon Kwon more than Skora in an lp, that is also a fact.
Some amazing air combos if done entertainingly with lets say really high style level, good choice of combining the right tricks, and high enough skill in those tricks will be more entertaining than those routine easy tricks that Wingrove does (no i dont hate the tricks he does) as long as their arent drops. And If they dont like the aircombos and prefer those easy tricks instead the people watching are blind. I support Azun's mission 100 percent because i would rather see some sick shit that looks more impossible! its that simple!  :cheers:

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Re: Touzani lp
« Reply #39 on: Aug 16, 2009, 03:21: PM »
i think people dont care about hard tricks it depends the way u do it if u have a good style and flow with it or if u just perform like a robot the crowd will fell it u can do a latw with no style and no flow and 2 atws with style and flow the crowd will prefer the atws ,they know thats easier but they just want to see a show, not a training...
as said me séan the most important its not what u do but how u do

wass

Im a freestyler, not a clown.

insted of doing easy shit for them to understand, we should make our tricks so good that it will be entertaining for everyone.

i will work hard to make aircombos entertaining! that is my mission for the future!


I'd realy like to see you do that so I'll have an idea. Because air combos, IMO, can never be entertaining. The 2: hardcore and entertaining just doesn't mix.
People should have respect for both, but non freestylers will always love Sean and Jeon Kwon more than Skora in an lp, that is also a fact.
Some amazing air combos if done entertainingly with lets say really high style level, good choice of combining the right tricks, and high enough skill in those tricks will be more entertaining than those routine easy tricks that Wingrove does (no i dont hate the tricks he does) as long as their arent drops. And If they dont like the aircombos and prefer those easy tricks instead the people watching are blind. I support Azun's mission 100 percent because i would rather see some sick shit that looks more impossible! its that simple!  :cheers:

Most people who watching us are non freestylers. They aren't blind, just that they don't have the knowledge like most freestyler do. But even if they don't have enough knowledge, we are performing to THEM. Just like in business, we have a saying that "customers are gods", and so in freestyle, "people who watching are gods". Don't make them use their brains to figure out how hard lowers are, they don't like that :cheers:.
Most of the freestylers begin their stuff by seeing Ronaldinho perform, AND THEN search for football freestyle videos. And even then, some of them do leave stupid comments like "Billy Wingrove is better than Palle".
Try to look from others perspectives, and then answer this question: "What looks more impossible to a non freestyler? A TATW - AMATW - AMATW - AMATW nt or a magnetic?".
And by that, I have no disrepect for hardcore freestylers. The thing I want to point out is that although you're hardcore, you still want to perform what the people wanna see aka. entertaining sh!t. And entertaining sh!t and hardcore freestyle are really hard to mix. I do want to see if Azun can do it. I hope he can, but it'll be really hard.
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Re: Touzani lp
« Reply #40 on: Aug 16, 2009, 06:05: PM »
to settle the argument about showmanship or difficult skills.  its neither thats important in an LP. the important thing in an lp is to keep it interesting. if you only do hardcore lowers, it will be very boring to many people. too simple of a performance may also not be entertaining.  for me, the secret is showing a little bit of all styles. do some lowers, uppers, sits, and even grounds. this will keep them seeing something new each time. if you do this, you can be a good performer, but even unknowing audiences will than recognize better freestylers when compared. the problem is many of you compare a skora type to billy wingrove. skora will mainly only do lowers, and he might drop. billy's routine will be more varied and enjoyable to most people. however, someone like john farnworth who can do a little bit of everything, will completely get a better reception than either of them. his use of several different high level techniques makes his type the most interesting. thats why JF, JK, and sean are some of the most popular performers in freestyle at the moment.
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Re: Touzani lp
« Reply #41 on: Aug 16, 2009, 06:18: PM »
i wouldnt say he hasnt trained for years, his lps have always had nearly the same difficulty level as far as i can remember. and "homeless cup", now thats a weird name for a competition
Hahaha its new it was earlier in USA. Its for all those homeless guys that wanna show how good they are ;) They have time to learn some skills !

touzani is homeless?

yeah, he lives in streets of Rotterdam in a box

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Re: Touzani lp
« Reply #42 on: Aug 28, 2009, 02:08: AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q657NHK6jbI Also a part of an recent Lp of Touzani.

People say that he doesn't train anymore. What will hapen if he trains? I think he will kick a lot of freestylers ass.

On the streetz, people talking about a comeback movie of touzani that will release in 2010...

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« Reply #43 on: Aug 28, 2009, 02:53: AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q657NHK6jbI Also a part of an recent Lp of Touzani.

People say that he doesn't train anymore. What will hapen if he trains? I think he will kick a lot of freestylers ass.

On the streetz, people talking about a comeback movie of touzani that will release in 2010...

Please give this guy a nice ban

Probebly a fat SSD manager trying to get some contacts... get out of here
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Re: Touzani lp
« Reply #44 on: Aug 28, 2009, 03:03: AM »
i think people dont care about hard tricks it depends the way u do it if u have a good style and flow with it or if u just perform like a robot the crowd will fell it u can do a latw with no style and no flow and 2 atws with style and flow the crowd will prefer the atws ,they know thats easier but they just want to see a show, not a training...
as said me séan the most important its not what u do but how u do

wass

Im a freestyler, not a clown.

insted of doing easy shit for them to understand, we should make our tricks so good that it will be entertaining for everyone.

i will work hard to make aircombos entertaining! that is my mission for the future!


I'd realy like to see you do that so I'll have an idea. Because air combos, IMO, can never be entertaining.
I laughed so hard  :lol:
you havn't been around a lot of crowds I can tell you that
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Re: Touzani lp
« Reply #45 on: Aug 28, 2009, 03:53: AM »
i think people dont care about hard tricks it depends the way u do it if u have a good style and flow with it or if u just perform like a robot the crowd will fell it u can do a latw with no style and no flow and 2 atws with style and flow the crowd will prefer the atws ,they know thats easier but they just want to see a show, not a training...
as said me séan the most important its not what u do but how u do

wass

Im a freestyler, not a clown.

insted of doing easy shit for them to understand, we should make our tricks so good that it will be entertaining for everyone.

i will work hard to make aircombos entertaining! that is my mission for the future!


I'd realy like to see you do that so I'll have an idea. Because air combos, IMO, can never be entertaining. The 2: hardcore and entertaining just doesn't mix.
People should have respect for both, but non freestylers will always love Sean and Jeon Kwon more than Skora in an lp, that is also a fact.

You've seen Ecuabol do a bunch of hardcore combos first try in front of many people, they loved it.
So yes, people will enjoy it very muh, but they'll get bored of it in a minute. The reason they like "entertaining" moves is because most people make them look hard, while it isn't. Freestylers like Ecuabol, Shenker, Skora, FX will make their combos look easy, which is why people think it's easy.
I remember watching Benny perform at the RBSS, he made everything look hard, chasing the ball all the time, he even needed a few tries to get something, people would see him drop the ball, but then they'd see him do it. Barely. BARELY - which is the reason people will think it's harder than a clean PATW.


However, anything Khoa says is the truth, so I can't really argue with the one and only.
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Re: Touzani lp
« Reply #46 on: Aug 28, 2009, 07:38: AM »
i think people dont care about hard tricks it depends the way u do it if u have a good style and flow with it or if u just perform like a robot the crowd will fell it u can do a latw with no style and no flow and 2 atws with style and flow the crowd will prefer the atws ,they know thats easier but they just want to see a show, not a training...
as said me séan the most important its not what u do but how u do

wass

Im a freestyler, not a clown.

insted of doing easy shit for them to understand, we should make our tricks so good that it will be entertaining for everyone.

i will work hard to make aircombos entertaining! that is my mission for the future!


I'd realy like to see you do that so I'll have an idea. Because air combos, IMO, can never be entertaining. The 2: hardcore and entertaining just doesn't mix.
People should have respect for both, but non freestylers will always love Sean and Jeon Kwon more than Skora in an lp, that is also a fact.

You've seen Ecuabol do a bunch of hardcore combos first try in front of many people, they loved it.
So yes, people will enjoy it very muh, but they'll get bored of it in a minute. The reason they like "entertaining" moves is because most people make them look hard, while it isn't. Freestylers like Ecuabol, Shenker, Skora, FX will make their combos look easy, which is why people think it's easy.
I remember watching Benny perform at the RBSS, he made everything look hard, chasing the ball all the time, he even needed a few tries to get something, people would see him drop the ball, but then they'd see him do it. Barely. BARELY - which is the reason people will think it's harder than a clean PATW.


However, anything Khoa says is the truth, so I can't really argue with the one and only.
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But still I think that people don't like air combos after watching it for sometime because they don't know how hard they are, and also they think the combos are a little repetitive (as they don't know the difference between AMATWs and HTW - HTW they may assume that it's all ATWs, which is  :bs:) but then we're the ones who must perform to them, which sucks even more  :shoot:.
But freestyle is still a new sport, and i think in the next several years things can only be better for air combos.     
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Re: Touzani lp
« Reply #47 on: Aug 28, 2009, 07:47: AM »


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I'd realy like to see you do that so I'll have an idea. Because air combos, IMO, can never be entertaining. The 2: hardcore and entertaining just doesn't mix.
People should have respect for both, but non freestylers will always love Sean and Jeon Kwon more than Skora in an lp, that is also a fact.

So much bull its untrue.

Ok, For a start, Today my freinds was watching some videos on my ipod, They watched Abdullah, Jk, Jolter etc

And the persons video that they reacted to the most was azun air combos.

I remember doing a street show with oLi, and New shit, and tatw amatw matw nt, got a bigger reaction than soles.

Also, Look at RBSS Hungary, Fx won, Raped Petike in the final, even though petike pulled off all theese lp and tricks, and incredible sits and uppers.

If your going to be sucessfull with airmoves, your going to have to work hard, but it can be done, its all about being consistent and stylish.

I know for a fact, Patw gets a bigger reaction compared to any other trick.

People who say that airmoves arent entertaining, just say that because there to lazy to get theres too and impressive level.

However, All round FTW baby.