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Re: UFC 101
« Reply #24 on: Aug 12, 2009, 04:20: AM »
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To be honest, I doubt Silva would be able to touch him, but then I doubt Machida could land much either.

that's pretty much the point. i would be absolutely shocked if one engaged the other

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It would be a great fight if you're watching it as a martial artist...if you're watching for entertainment, then yeah it would be boring.

kind of like jose mourinho's chelsea

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advantage of the way Silva commits

see patrick cote and thales leites. you have to commit for anderson to commit

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Re: UFC 101
« Reply #25 on: Aug 12, 2009, 04:26: AM »
lol at the fight between anderson and griffin  :lol:
soooo embarrassing

would love to see machida fight silva
although anderson said he's not really interested to take the title from machida since they're friends and all
both great technical fighters
two of the very best mma fighters ever no doubt

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Re: UFC 101
« Reply #26 on: Aug 12, 2009, 04:41: AM »
see patrick cote and thales leites. you have to commit for anderson to commit
no you have to give him an opening. Anderson is so fucking explosive that he'll just take advantage of it and come in with a foot or a fist. Machida always give an opening: look at how he holds his hands. Anderson would come in with a hard kick or a hook at some point...and Machida would wait for it.

You step in, and anderson commits. Machida steps in and steps out -- it's how he fights. So when he steps out, Silva commits. That's bad for Silva. If Machida steps in convincingly, then steps out and manipulates Anderson's momentum, there could be some interesting results.
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Re: UFC 101
« Reply #27 on: Aug 12, 2009, 05:57: AM »




a little bit of hilarity from the thales leites fight

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You step in, and anderson commits

i think you underestimate silva as a striker and a fighter. he's not going to pull a miguel torres and get reckless. plus, again, you have to remember that they train together daily at casa preta

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Re: UFC 101
« Reply #28 on: Aug 12, 2009, 06:10: AM »
That first sweep was so cheeky...epic moment.

I'm not underestimating Silva. Against most fighters, that quality is a huge bonus and allows him to get in some huge hits. Committing when somebody steps in on you is smart...it's just that Machida's style anticipates that, and combats it effectively and devastatingly...in fact, shotokan karate is pretty good at doing that, and Machuda's father, when he made his alterations on the Shotokan style to adapt to big, powerful brazilians, accentuated that and took the quick lateral and back-forth motion to a whole new extreme. It's not a weakness on Silva's part...for pure striking, Silva is the best in UFC. Rather, it's a strength on Machida's part, because Machida has the best strike defense in UFC.

About them being training partners: yeah, so they both know each other really well, meaning the fight would be more who-is-having-a-better-day-based than anything else. I just think Machida's style would give him the edge. Also, them being training partners and friends is why they probably won't fight.

machida hasn't ever lost a round in UFC. that had to be said.
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Re: UFC 101
« Reply #29 on: Aug 12, 2009, 06:14: AM »
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matt hughes was not a d1 champ. in fact, i can't remember a d1 champ that gsp has faced (not to take away from gsp)
When I said champ, I didn't literally mean a champion as in number one, I meant as in receiving big accolades such as all-state, big schools, best in their brackets etc.. Matt Hughes may not have won the whole thing, but he was all-state in d1. Pretty damn good for GSP who has never wrestled a day in his life, prior to training in MMA don't ya think?

Also, Jon Fitch, who was the Purdue Wrestling captain. (Like I said, BIG schools with BIG wrestlers). He tooled him in wrestling as well.

And your missing Josh Koshcheck, he was an actual champion, Gsp made him look like a highschool wrestler on JV  :thumbsup:


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machida hasn't ever lost a round in UFC. that had to be said.

Great point! But Silva sure has  :cheers: keep that in mind
« Last Edit: Aug 12, 2009, 06:20: AM by TJ Hook »

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« Reply #30 on: Aug 12, 2009, 06:51: AM »
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meaning the fight would be more who-is-having-a-better-day-based than anything else

yeah. again, machida is very good tactically, but anderson is not going to waltz right into his fists. i think it's a wash standing up.

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Pretty damn good for GSP who has never wrestled a day in his life, prior to training in MMA don't ya think?

well, yeah, he's a freak:

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(not to take away from gsp)

look, the dude is a great grappler, and he is an elite grappler w/i the ufc, but to say that he has the best ground game in the ufc is a little foolish imo

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Re: UFC 101
« Reply #31 on: Aug 12, 2009, 07:30: AM »
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look, the dude is a great grappler, and he is an elite grappler w/i the ufc, but to say that he has the best ground game in the ufc is a little foolish imo

Name someone better. Please.  :boxing:

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Re: UFC 101
« Reply #32 on: Aug 12, 2009, 07:31: AM »
already did

don't sleep on demian maia's ground game b/c he's not gsp's fighting equal. he is fucking sick

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Re: UFC 101
« Reply #33 on: Aug 12, 2009, 07:32: AM »
Well he's better in bjj, definitely
but probably not in GnP, although I can't say for sure because I've never seen the dude fight a full fight.
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« Reply #34 on: Aug 12, 2009, 07:37: AM »
Well he's better in bjj, definitely
but probably not in GnP, although I can't say for sure because I've never seen the dude fight a full fight.

i wouldn't imagine that it would be a fun time having that dude lay on top of you. plus, his bjj is just so ridiculous. he's definitely on gsp's level. a bj penn at 155 is on gsp's level as well imo. big nog is legendary. hazlett is a fucking monster, etc. of course, only bj penn is close to gsp's level as a fighter.
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Re: UFC 101
« Reply #35 on: Aug 12, 2009, 03:07: PM »
already did

don't sleep on demian maia's ground game b/c he's not gsp's fighting equal. he is fucking sick
Yeah he is extremely sick, but he has fought a bunch of cans, minus Nate Quarry. Yes, he also broken many records; correct me if I am wrong but 3 consecutive fights with Submission of the Night? But really, c'mon. Jason Macdonald? Chael Sonnen? Ryan Jensen?

Name me another fighter besides GSP that has broken through BJ Penn's guard so easily?? BJ Penn was a national champion in BJJ with only 3 years of training. That is absolutely disgusting! As a white belt he was tapping out blue and purple belts. How many more examples must I provide? Gsp absolutely destroyed BJ Penn's guard as easily as he wanted to. Thiago Alves?? Same shit. Alves has unreal BJJ, and still destroyed that and made him look like a purple.

Case in point. St.Pierre: Best ground game in the UFC right now.