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Re: Freestyle Masters Part 2
« Reply #24 on: Apr 22, 2009, 06:39: AM »
like m4x said Amsti aint a freestyle master, hes a lowerbody master.

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Re: Freestyle Masters Part 2
« Reply #25 on: Apr 22, 2009, 06:56: AM »
like m4x said Amsti aint a freestyle master, hes a lowerbody master.

this is very true, he is  lowerbody master =)
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Re: Freestyle Masters Part 2
« Reply #26 on: Apr 22, 2009, 07:30: AM »
freestyle aint mathematics :thumbsup:

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Re: Freestyle Masters Part 2
« Reply #27 on: Apr 22, 2009, 08:16: AM »
cool video but the titel is totaly wrong..... amsti and klikla freestyle masters???? dont think so.... and where are upper and sits? only szymo did some...

but for a lower video it was cool edited.
Man, i agree that this video shouldnt be called "Freestyle masters" - it`s more "Lowerbody masters", but about Klikla and especially Amsti.... Sorry, but i see that you dont understand anything in lowerbody freestyle - Amsti can 6 amatw nt, amatw-4 matw nt, amatw-3 matw nt with weak, 5 ahmatw, 4 alatw, 5 latw with BOTH FEET (1st in the world in lemmens moves for sure), satw amatw amatw nt, kahmatw etc etc etc - not freestyle master?!?  He is in top-5 in lowerbody!! Its a pity that almost nobody realise this...:down:

and i see that you dont understand that freestyle is more than only revolutions around a ball. its not only about hard lower. ok amsti cn do very hard lower combos but his style is shit. just watch the first latw where he does (I'm not sure anymore) 4 latw. this clip is slowed down and when i saw this i really had to laugh because his style is so shitty. but espect for the hard combos he does. but he is no freestyle master and klikla isnt either. they are good at hard combos but suck at sits uppers and amsti's style isnt cool also.
That's why ARS wrote that the name of the movie should be, and I quote, "Lowerbody masters". Amsti is definately top 5 in the world when it comes to air combos and denying that fact just shows that you don't realise how difficult 5 ahmatws are or latw hmatw alatw both feet to name just a few of the combos he has done. And about the style, well, if he can do 6 amatws with what you claim to be a bad style (imo much better than yours), don't you think he could do 5 easily and relaxed? There's a huge difference between 3 and 6 amatw nt and it doesn't seem as if you realise that neither.

And about Klikla, in my opinion a great guy and a great freestyler but not yet on the same level as the others of this video

in my post i wrote that klikla and amsti are no freestyle masters. they are only insane at one part of freestyle (lowers). then ARS told me that i dont understand anything of lowerfreestyle :dontknow: i understand very much of lower freestyle and i know how difficult these combos are. amsti has my respect for doing them but only 6 amatw nt do not make me call him a freestyle master. also i havent written that his style is bad on amatw nts. i wrote his style is bad especially on latws and i dont like the style on atw htw hatw etc...
furthermore my style does not have anything to do with this so this is just a stupid thing to mention.
Its better to be on pro-level in one part of freeestyle and have intermediate level in other styles than to have middle-level in all styles in my opinion.. FOR EXAMPLE even if we compare Amsti and any common allrounder, who can have "standart" skills ( i mean smth like amatw amatw nt+combo, short creative sitting combos, upper combos with 360s, sideheads or even tophead) - anyone, who practiced hard, can clearly see: for achievement middle-level in allround, starting with Amsti`s level (btw not zero-level as you think) you will need to spend about 1 year ( i dont mean pro-level in allround which have only few people on the world) AND for achievement Amsti`s pro-level in lowers, strating with "standart" lowes skills - MORE than 2 years!! So, who is better: "standart" allrounder or Amsti?? For me its obviously - Amsti... BUT of cource i dont claim that lowers always beat allround - no!! If we compare JF and Amsti - i think JF`s skills need more time and energy for achiement...
PS: i can add good example in my opinion... In ANY profession or activity (in our case - freestyle football) people, who are PRO in one part of this profession\activity, are ALWAYS much more respectable and well-known than people who are not on pro-level but can do any easy things... Doctors, teachers, writers, musians, artists, actors, ingeneers etc etc etc - the same in sports... PRO = quality, all-round (not freestyle word in this case) = not quality...


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dude ? what you talking about, this are the worst examples that I have ever heard, sorry but air uppers lovers and ground arent indenpedent sports, lol,  and you examples are fucked,
Doctor- for example; to be a good neurologist you have to be good not only at neurology but at pgharmacology, anatomy etc., lol,

teacher-a good teacher of biology, who doesnt know chemistry, geogrpahy and physics, cant be a good teacher, these subjects are close connected.       

Freestyler who is good at one style is worthless, you cant call him a world class, its like calling guy who is runnig very fast, but cant kicks ball correctly a world class footballer, just beacuse runnig is verry important in football, suchh like lovers are very important in freestyle, ofcourse if you play only lovers I cant forbid you, because its fun for you, and its cool that you enyoj, but to be top class you must be very good at all stages =)
 sorry for my english but I stiil learning  :thumbsup:

World class means- world class performer, show me a freestyler who plays only lovers, and who is able to make a good live performance, if you find him/her, I will shut up =)
Man. criticizing my example you just prove my point of view ;) As i said freestyler really should practice all styles!!! Read my topic once more time plz! The same (as you said) any people (doctors, teachers etc) should learn all parts of his science! BUT, if you want to be a TOP-class freestyler\doctor\teacher you must concentrate on one thing and become PRO in this part!! Of cource, if freestyler can do 10 amatw nt and cant do even 10 moves sitting combo - its just strange freestyler, not more... But if you have common skills in sits and uppers +amazing lowers - you can become a legend easily!! Or you can concentrate on uppers or on sits - its not important!! You should be PRO in your part and can do another part - this is important!!
And you also said that smth like "if you practice only lowers etc etc" Why are you so sure in it? If i often use only lowers in my videos - is doesnt mean that i dont practic allround! Its pathetic that people dont see the difference between "he dont use allround" and "he cant do allround"... :down: I can repeat for you that i claim that for being good freestyler you should practice ALL STYLES and i do this, so i dont understand why you write what you arent sure in..:)

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Re: Freestyle Masters Part 2
« Reply #28 on: Apr 22, 2009, 08:21: AM »
cool video but the titel is totaly wrong..... amsti and klikla freestyle masters???? dont think so.... and where are upper and sits? only szymo did some...

but for a lower video it was cool edited.
Man, i agree that this video shouldnt be called "Freestyle masters" - it`s more "Lowerbody masters", but about Klikla and especially Amsti.... Sorry, but i see that you dont understand anything in lowerbody freestyle - Amsti can 6 amatw nt, amatw-4 matw nt, amatw-3 matw nt with weak, 5 ahmatw, 4 alatw, 5 latw with BOTH FEET (1st in the world in lemmens moves for sure), satw amatw amatw nt, kahmatw etc etc etc - not freestyle master?!?  He is in top-5 in lowerbody!! Its a pity that almost nobody realise this...:down:

and i see that you dont understand that freestyle is more than only revolutions around a ball. its not only about hard lower. ok amsti cn do very hard lower combos but his style is shit. just watch the first latw where he does (I'm not sure anymore) 4 latw. this clip is slowed down and when i saw this i really had to laugh because his style is so shitty. but espect for the hard combos he does. but he is no freestyle master and klikla isnt either. they are good at hard combos but suck at sits uppers and amsti's style isnt cool also.
That's why ARS wrote that the name of the movie should be, and I quote, "Lowerbody masters". Amsti is definately top 5 in the world when it comes to air combos and denying that fact just shows that you don't realise how difficult 5 ahmatws are or latw hmatw alatw both feet to name just a few of the combos he has done. And about the style, well, if he can do 6 amatws with what you claim to be a bad style (imo much better than yours), don't you think he could do 5 easily and relaxed? There's a huge difference between 3 and 6 amatw nt and it doesn't seem as if you realise that neither.

And about Klikla, in my opinion a great guy and a great freestyler but not yet on the same level as the others of this video

in my post i wrote that klikla and amsti are no freestyle masters. they are only insane at one part of freestyle (lowers). then ARS told me that i dont understand anything of lowerfreestyle :dontknow: i understand very much of lower freestyle and i know how difficult these combos are. amsti has my respect for doing them but only 6 amatw nt do not make me call him a freestyle master. also i havent written that his style is bad on amatw nts. i wrote his style is bad especially on latws and i dont like the style on atw htw hatw etc...
furthermore my style does not have anything to do with this so this is just a stupid thing to mention.
Its better to be on pro-level in one part of freeestyle and have intermediate level in other styles than to have middle-level in all styles in my opinion.. FOR EXAMPLE even if we compare Amsti and any common allrounder, who can have "standart" skills ( i mean smth like amatw amatw nt+combo, short creative sitting combos, upper combos with 360s, sideheads or even tophead) - anyone, who practiced hard, can clearly see: for achievement middle-level in allround, starting with Amsti`s level (btw not zero-level as you think) you will need to spend about 1 year ( i dont mean pro-level in allround which have only few people on the world) AND for achievement Amsti`s pro-level in lowers, strating with "standart" lowes skills - MORE than 2 years!! So, who is better: "standart" allrounder or Amsti?? For me its obviously - Amsti... BUT of cource i dont claim that lowers always beat allround - no!! If we compare JF and Amsti - i think JF`s skills need more time and energy for achiement...
PS: i can add good example in my opinion... In ANY profession or activity (in our case - freestyle football) people, who are PRO in one part of this profession\activity, are ALWAYS much more respectable and well-known than people who are not on pro-level but can do any easy things... Doctors, teachers, writers, musians, artists, actors, ingeneers etc etc etc - the same in sports... PRO = quality, all-round (not freestyle word in this case) = not quality...


 :saywhat: :saywhat:
dude ? what you talking about, this are the worst examples that I have ever heard, sorry but air uppers lovers and ground arent indenpedent sports, lol,  and you examples are fucked,
Doctor- for example; to be a good neurologist you have to be good not only at neurology but at pgharmacology, anatomy etc., lol,

teacher-a good teacher of biology, who doesnt know chemistry, geogrpahy and physics, cant be a good teacher, these subjects are close connected.       

Freestyler who is good at one style is worthless ahm maybe not worthless but definitly not world class =), you cant call him a world class, its like calling guy who is runnig very fast, but cant kicks ball correctly a world class footballer, just beacuse runnig is verry important in football, suchh like lovers are very important in freestyle, ofcourse if you play only lovers I cant forbid you, because its fun for you, and its cool that you enyoj, but to be top class you must be very good at all stages =)
 sorry for my english but I stiil learning  :thumbsup:

World class means- world class performer, show me a freestyler who plays only lovers, and who is able to make a good live performance, if you find him/her, I will shut up =)

One fantastic post  :thumbsup:

+1!!
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Re: Freestyle Masters Part 2
« Reply #29 on: Apr 22, 2009, 09:46: PM »
Man. criticizing my example you just prove my point of view ;) As i said freestyler really should practice all styles!!! Read my topic once more time plz! The same (as you said) any people (doctors, teachers etc) should learn all parts of his science! BUT, if you want to be a TOP-class freestyler\doctor\teacher you must concentrate on one thing and become PRO in this part!! Of cource, if freestyler can do 10 amatw nt and cant do even 10 moves sitting combo - its just strange freestyler, not more... But if you have common skills in sits and uppers +amazing lowers - you can become a legend easily!! Or you can concentrate on uppers or on sits - its not important!! You should be PRO in your part and can do another part - this is important!!
And you also said that smth like "if you practice only lowers etc etc" Why are you so sure in it? If i often use only lowers in my videos - is doesnt mean that i dont practic allround! Its pathetic that people dont see the difference between "he dont use allround" and "he cant do allround"... :down: I can repeat for you that i claim that for being good freestyler you should practice ALL STYLES and i do this, so i dont understand why you write what you arent sure in..:)
I agree with you but I think you miss a point. We have to base our judgements out of videos, not what we think. It might be that Amsti has amazing uppers and sits but don't show them, but that doesn't make him a freestyle master. He isn't a freestyle master until it's proved that his uppers and sits are good enough to be a master. Then we can call him a true freestyle master.

And I do agree with you, I just wanted to supply your post. ;)
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Re: Freestyle Masters Part 2
« Reply #30 on: Apr 23, 2009, 06:37: AM »
Man. criticizing my example you just prove my point of view ;) As i said freestyler really should practice all styles!!! Read my topic once more time plz! The same (as you said) any people (doctors, teachers etc) should learn all parts of his science! BUT, if you want to be a TOP-class freestyler\doctor\teacher you must concentrate on one thing and become PRO in this part!! Of cource, if freestyler can do 10 amatw nt and cant do even 10 moves sitting combo - its just strange freestyler, not more... But if you have common skills in sits and uppers +amazing lowers - you can become a legend easily!! Or you can concentrate on uppers or on sits - its not important!! You should be PRO in your part and can do another part - this is important!!
And you also said that smth like "if you practice only lowers etc etc" Why are you so sure in it? If i often use only lowers in my videos - is doesnt mean that i dont practic allround! Its pathetic that people dont see the difference between "he dont use allround" and "he cant do allround"... :down: I can repeat for you that i claim that for being good freestyler you should practice ALL STYLES and i do this, so i dont understand why you write what you arent sure in..:)
I agree with you but I think you miss a point. We have to base our judgements out of videos, not what we think. It might be that Amsti has amazing uppers and sits but don't show them, but that doesn't make him a freestyle master. He isn't a freestyle master until it's proved that his uppers and sits are good enough to be a master. Then we can call him a true freestyle master.

And I do agree with you, I just wanted to supply your post. ;)
Ok-ok :) I agree that its not important what you CAN DO, its important - what you DO.. So, if someone have amazing allround but uses in videos only lowers - he is just strange man - not freestyle master:) But Amsti will show all his allround skills - just wait ;)