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General Chat / Re: Suggestions for Beyond Football
« on: May 04, 2013, 09:08: AM »
Nothing, that's kind of the problem.

If it helps, quite a few forums that I used to frequent back in the day have dwindled significantly

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General Chat / Re: Suggestions for Beyond Football
« on: May 03, 2013, 06:21: PM »
What's new folks?

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General Chat / Re: The Longest Thread
« on: Apr 04, 2012, 01:35: PM »
Just broke my clavicle in a rugby match

fml

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Soccer Forum / Re: Robin Van Persie
« on: Mar 17, 2012, 03:12: PM »
Van persie is a good player but i am saying he is not world class. World class strikers are drogba, aguero, higuain, benzema, rooney, villa, zlatan, tevez. These players do the simple things well, but also have extra magic with consistent ability to get past defenders and/or amazing pass vision.

I know adi will rip me up when he sees tevez on my world class striker list haha :grin:

RVP does the simple things well but where are the spectacular plays to make him world class? His goals are mostly tap-ins and all of his assists are from corners, free-kicks and hopeful crosses.

Getting 31 goals and 8 assists in a season does not make a player world class. I dug up some stats from previous years to show this point:
adebayor 29 goals and 5 assists for arsenal in one season.
michael owen 28 goals and 5 assists for liverpool
diego milito 32 goals and 6 assists for inter milan
forlan 33 goals and 11 assists for atletico
mario gomez 39 goals and 3 assists for bayern
luca toni 34 goals and 7 assists for bayern
dani guiza 27 goals and 6 assists for mallorca

Check the stats and you will see many similar players with big numbers. None of those guys are world class.


Higuain - Hasn't cemented a starting berth at Real Madrid. Hasn't had a great season in the past two years
Benzema - Name a consistent, successful year he has had post-Lyon
Villa - WC at times. I wouldn't place him above RvP.
Others I agree with.

Describing his crosses as "hopeful" is a bit irrevalent. That like calling Xavi's tacticul nous "wishful thinking"

You have to remember those stats are from players at the end of the season. Van Persie still has a way to go until the curtains close. Also, it's well-known how injury plagued RvP's career has been. Even with that he has consistently scored well for Arsenal and with his health staying intact, people are finally noticing that he can maintain his level of play.

Also with the players you mentioned, they were considered World Class for that season. Look at Forlan'smove to Inter Milan and his performances at the World Cup. Adebayor was praised as a phenomenal, all-round striker. Michael Owen was a borderline saint in England. Milito put all of Europe in his pocket for a year and led Inter to domestic and european success. Gomez and Toni were hailed as some of Bayern's best recent purchases. They may not be considered worldclass anymore but when they were playing great football, they were considered great players. Same goes for RvP

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Soccer Forum / Re: Robin Van Persie
« on: Mar 12, 2012, 12:07: PM »
Van persie's contract expires next year and he is stalling on the new contract because he knows he may have better offers from mancity or some other team.

Also, arsenal are again being linked with average players this summer like granero and podolski. Why would van persie want to stay?

Also, arsenal do not want to pay big transfer fees and big salaries to any player. Milner, kaboul, gary cahill, suarez, robinho, david silva, villa all were linked with arsenal in the past but went to teams who paid bigger money.

Have they failed to acquire silverware over the past sesasons? Yes.
Have they played CL football every year since Wenger's appointment? Yes.
Gunners are doing just fine w/o huge wages.

RvP is playing some of the best football on the planet. Only other players who can compare on current form are Messi, Ronaldo, and Rooney. These four players have consistently been putting their teams on their backs when needs be to get the job done. This just goes to show the kind of talent RvP is and what he can do with it when he's not injured.

How can you disregard a man who is on course to break goalscoring records in the Premiership? He nearly broke the record for most goals in a calender year.

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Soccer Forum / Re: English Premier League
« on: Mar 12, 2012, 11:58: AM »
van persie scores mostly poacher type goals just like inzaghi. Also his assists are nothing special either, just like inzaghi. RVP though has more strength and ball retention skill.

A better comparison would be with gilardinho or mario gomez. Effective players but nothing spectacular.

Btw your comparison with del piero is total madness! Del piero scored amazing goals from all angles and out of nothing in his prime. Also, he had sick passing vision and dribbling skill.

Van persie's assists are never clever through balls. Van persie assists are always short little passes in to feet or hopeful crosses from the wing. And his dribbling skill is non-existant.

Yes barca would love to have cavani and lavezzi, i guarantee you that.

Strangely, I kinda miss Kingnut in these discussion lol :grin: He always had some crazy shit to say. His top 5 would probably have xavi, busquets, van der vaart etc haha.

QFT

RvP is playing his socks off nowadays. It's gotten to the point where whenever he gets the ball, everyone including the other team expects him to score.

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Soccer Forum / Re: Transfers & Rumours
« on: Mar 12, 2012, 11:49: AM »
Arsenal trying to snag Podolski recently

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Soccer Forum / Re: UEFA Champions League 2011/2012
« on: Sep 02, 2011, 10:50: AM »
not for me watching on a laggy stream or any other Dinamo fans

all in good fun though seeing as we made it

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General Chat / Re: Soccergrip History Thread
« on: Aug 31, 2011, 05:59: PM »
I feel as though I'm reading about a highschool reunion, with all this talk of "cool-cats"

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Soccer Forum / Re: UEFA Champions League 2011/2012
« on: Aug 31, 2011, 05:40: PM »
Was at Dinamo Zagreb - Helsinki and at Dinamo Zagreb - Malmo. Great atmostphere at the Malmo game and for both games tickets were 10kn, or $2 can/us. Was amazing

I can see Dinamo winning at least 1 game but I have a tough time seeing us get into 3rd place for Europa. Im guessing 6 or 7 pts.

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Soccer Forum / Re: Europe League
« on: Aug 31, 2011, 05:37: PM »
Group D and Group K look pretty interesting

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General Chat / Re: UnderGround Rap
« on: Jun 27, 2011, 04:08: PM »
50 Cent
Snoop Dog
Eminem

Also heard Josef Fritzel has some decent underground stuff.

second post that ive read in a while here at bf forums and you make me laugh

i might hang around a little longer

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