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Title: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Rock on May 21, 2009, 03:54: AM
Hello guys, it took us 6 months to think, film and edit this movie, we made everything so it get's perfect, so I really hope you enjoy it a lot!
I don't know why, but youtube messed up with the syncronization of the music a little bit  :dontknow:.

Please watch it in High Definition, so you can enjoy it more, the image in HD is really cool.  :biggrin:

Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard ] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: SG on May 21, 2009, 04:01: AM
a true masterpiece  :bowdown:
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: ArthurMansilla on May 21, 2009, 06:38: AM
love you guys!  :-*
amazing video  :cheers:
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: jme003 on May 21, 2009, 06:45: AM
that was really good quality vid. i though the music could've been better. but nice team work combos . i like the spining solestall
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: L_I_S on May 21, 2009, 12:33: PM
pretty cool video and good style on lowers. uppers were very slow.
i dont c how this is creative, the most creative things were probelly just the transfer from person to person with the juggling or the spining sole stall transfer. which still wasnt that creative.
good job on the video though, i liked it.
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Rock on May 21, 2009, 01:16: PM
Thanks everyone for the comments.

pretty cool video and good style on lowers. uppers were very slow.
i dont c how this is creative, the most creative things were probelly just the transfer from person to person with the juggling or the spining sole stall transfer. which still wasnt that creative.
good job on the video though, i liked it.

I suppose you presumed uppers were slow because I forwarded it REALLY fast.
Well, actually I did that so the whole video could match with the time of the song, and if I did let the uppers on normal velocity, the video will be longer than the song, and I don't liked that.
You can believe me or not, but that's with you.. Oh, and the uppers were bigger, I just ended it so the video could match in the song.
Oh, sure my uppers aren't as fast as KHB or JK, but "very slow", I guess it's something you presumed because of the speed up.

Yeah mate, it wasn't creavite at all.
I'm pretty sure you can't list 3 clips you have already seen in another video.
I'm not saying have never seen two person making nt combos together, or making a trick and passing the ball so the other person make the same trick.. I'm saying the same tricks we did, the same order we did it, and the same way we did.

In my vision, Creativity means something new or original, not "something from another planet, never seen anything like before"..
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: bob0812 on May 21, 2009, 02:46: PM
gr8 vid!  :bowdown:

love rock's atatws and nono's satws !

good edition, good job! peace !
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: L_I_S on May 21, 2009, 02:51: PM
Thanks everyone for the comments.

pretty cool video and good style on lowers. uppers were very slow.
i dont c how this is creative, the most creative things were probelly just the transfer from person to person with the juggling or the spining sole stall transfer. which still wasnt that creative.
good job on the video though, i liked it.

I suppose you presumed uppers were slow because I forwarded it REALLY fast.
Well, actually I did that so the whole video could match with the time of the song, and if I did let the uppers on normal velocity, the video will be longer than the song, and I don't liked that.
You can believe me or not, but that's with you.. Oh, and the uppers were bigger, I just ended it so the video could match in the song.
Oh, sure my uppers aren't as fast as KHB or JK, but "very slow", I guess it's something you presumed because of the speed up.

Yeah mate, it wasn't creavite at all.
I'm pretty sure you can't list 3 clips you have already seen in another video.
I'm not saying have never seen two person making nt combos together, or making a trick and passing the ball so the other person make the same trick.. I'm saying the same tricks we did, the same order we did it, and the same way we did.


In my vision, Creativity means something new or original, not "something from another planet, never seen anything like before"..
understood. just becuase i havnt seen it befor, doesnt make it that creative. have u seen this combo?
atw-atw-htw-co-co-co-htw nt-atw-hatw-hatw-hatw-ltatw. i dont think its that creative, i just wrote random moves that probelly no one has done befor, and havent been seen befor.
for ur skill level, i expected much more, since me and my friend had a low skill level yet we were still able to quite good combos. i dont think the video is bad i think its quite good, but the title and description mislead me to believe otherwise.

Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Rodrigo on May 22, 2009, 03:39: AM
AMAZING!!
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Rock on May 22, 2009, 07:20: AM

understood. just becuase i havnt seen it befor, doesnt make it that creative. have u seen this combo?
atw-atw-htw-co-co-co-htw nt-atw-hatw-hatw-hatw-ltatw. i dont think its that creative, i just wrote random moves that probelly no one has done befor, and havent been seen befor.
for ur skill level, i expected much more, since me and my friend had a low skill level yet we were still able to quite good combos. i dont think the video is bad i think its quite good, but the title and description mislead me to believe otherwise.




Ok mate, if you think the level of creativity in this video, is comparable to the combo you wrote, I won't even argue anymore.  :biggrin:



For those who understand the essence of criativity of the scenes, I'm glad you liked it.  :hello:

Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Max on May 22, 2009, 09:22: AM
no creativity in it but the video was great though :cheers:
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: SeBaS on May 22, 2009, 09:40: AM
hahaha again, that no one did it before doesnt mean it is creative. but the combos you did looked pretty cool, still i was expecting something creative when i read the title of the thread  :cursing:
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Rock on May 22, 2009, 01:13: PM
hahaha again, that no one did it before doesnt mean it is creative. but the combos you did looked pretty cool, still i was expecting something creative when i read the title of the thread  :cursing:

That's your understanding of creativity mate.
Don't make your opinion a rule, because other people can understand creativity different than you do.


Again, creativity does not mean from another universe..
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: L_I_S on May 22, 2009, 01:24: PM
hahaha again, that no one did it before doesnt mean it is creative. but the combos you did looked pretty cool, still i was expecting something creative when i read the title of the thread  :cursing:

That's your understanding of creativity mate.
Don't make your opinion a rule, because other people can understand creativity different than you do.


Again, creativity does not mean from another universe..
then please explain what creativity means, not what it doesnt mean. words usally have a set meaning in english...
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Rock on May 22, 2009, 01:39: PM
Creativity means capacity of creating.
It does not mean you have to create whole new tricks, and make a whole new combo in which no tricks has to be unseen before.

If you create a new combination of tricks that already exists, it is still a NEW combination that you CREATED.
Being creative, is creating something, wheter it's a new combination or new tricks, it doesn't make a difference.
So.. since the title of the topic is Creative and not New and Never Seen tricks, I think you should think twice before saying it was no creative at all.


If you don't believe my definition, ask the dictionary.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Breno7 on May 22, 2009, 01:51: PM
Excellent video Nono and Rockyu!
I reallt liked the nt combos at that blue court (or whatever it is...).
Awsome sits by Rockyu and style improvment from Nono!

Coisa bunita de se V  :banana:
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: L_I_S on May 22, 2009, 03:51: PM
Quote
Creativity means capacity of creating.
It does not mean you have to create whole new tricks, and make a whole new combo in which no tricks has to be unseen before.
please explain. i dont understand. yet again u have explaind wat it doesnt mean...
creativty doesnt mean jumping around in the same spot, do u see wat im saying now.

dude, wat ur saying is all videos are creative, ofcorse they have a bit of creativity unless its copied from something else. but the level of creativity in this video is far too low for u to be saying this is creative, because all videos have something 'creative'.
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Rock on May 23, 2009, 01:45: AM
For the 12983º time.
Creativity means capacity of creating.



It doesn't matter what, or how much you create, if you create anything, you are being creative.
Yes mate, almost every video has a bit of creativity. Everyone who creates their on combos or sequences are creative.
You don't understand that, because you have a really closed mind from creativity.
You think only what is tottaly different from everything you haver ever seen before is creativity. No mate, every combo you create with a idea of your own, is your creation, and you're being creative.



Stop reading things other people wrote and using everything you read as a fact.
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: L_I_S on May 23, 2009, 03:22: AM
For the 12983º time.
Creativity means capacity of creating.



It doesn't matter what, or how much you create, if you create anything, you are being creative.
Yes mate, almost every video has a bit of creativity. Everyone who creates their on combos or sequences are creative.
You don't understand that, because you have a really closed mind from creativity.
You think only what is tottaly different from everything you haver ever seen before is creativity. No mate, every combo you create with a idea of your own, is your creation, and you're being creative.


Stop reading things other people wrote and using everything you read as a fact.
then dont use the word creativity to make ppl watch ur videos.
ur the closed minded one, u dont want to beleive that the level of creativity in this video is medeocre. i was expecting michryc's amount of creativity, not this. on a scale of 1-10 on the last michryc video id give it an 8, i give urs a 2.
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: SeBaS on May 23, 2009, 04:24: AM
you know why this video isnt creative? because you didnt create shit. you just used tricks that already exist and put it in an order that maybe no one did before.
basicly what youre saying is that if someone does 20x amatw nt hes creative because no one did it before.
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Rock on May 23, 2009, 07:29: AM
You both just keep forgeting, that your understanding of creative is different than other ones understanding.
If you don't think it's creative, that's ok, that's your opinion, keep watching MichRyc's video and be very happy.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Max on May 23, 2009, 07:36: AM
You both just keep forgeting, that your understanding of creative is different than other ones understanding.
If you don't think it's creative, that's ok, that's your opinion, keep watching MichRyc's video and be very happy.  :thumbsup:

so if you watch a video where someone does atw atw cross atw you go outside and do atw atw atw cross and call it creative? in your video where no new ideas of transitions between two people or anything else so your video is not creative. accept it.
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: JonKonik on May 23, 2009, 08:07: AM
this is not creative
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Post by: dice on May 23, 2009, 09:00: PM
very nice teamwork :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Philip WG on May 24, 2009, 05:53: AM
I have to agree with L_I_S and M4x , this isn't creative. But if you connect this video with the definition "Capacity of creating", well, then everything is creative. But in the matters of freestyle, it isn't creative. I have to admit that the video was enjoyable and great, but the "creative" title was misleading. A combo, containing randomly picked tricks, put together into a combo which no one has ever done before, doesn't mean it has to be creative.

For the 12983º time.
Creativity means capacity of creating.



It doesn't matter what, or how much you create, if you create anything, you are being creative.
Yes mate, almost every video has a bit of creativity. Everyone who creates their on combos or sequences are creative.
You don't understand that, because you have a really closed mind from creativity.
You think only what is tottaly different from everything you haver ever seen before is creativity. No mate, every combo you create with a idea of your own, is your creation, and you're being creative.


Stop reading things other people wrote and using everything you read as a fact.

I bake a cake, am I creative? I created the cake, but the cake was most probably someone elses idea from the beginning. Even if the proportions in the cake isn't the same, I'm not being creative. If I bake a cake with the same ingredients but switch for example cinnamon with something else, I'm not being creative BUT, I'm being innovative. In the matters of freestyle it's hard to call this video creative or innovative imo. But everyone has their own opinions and their own definitions of words.

Anyway, great video which I actually enjoyed watching, so don't take this as a bad comment.

 :pimp:
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
Post by: Rock on May 24, 2009, 10:15: AM
The title of the video has nothing to do with creativity, and so doesn't the description of the video.
The only place I put it was here, because every video around here has the same combos, the same uppers, the same sit and the same work in team.

I am not taking you comment as a bad one, it's ok if you disagree with the title of the topic.
I just think you misunderstood the defintion "capacity of creating" when you started talking about the cake stuff.
If you create a cake that someone has done before, it wasn't you creation. I mean, yes, it was you who did it, but it wasn't you who created it at the beggining.



I tottaly agree this video isn't the most cretive one in the whole world. But I do think it is creative for this forum, that's why here is the only place I used this word, and no forum/site else.


Oh, and I still think concepts of creativity, in freestyle matters or anywhere else may be different.
Just like you, max and LIS didn't thaught it was creative, other people did, and commented that on youtube, and other forums without even a tittle with the word (creative).
Title: Re: Rock & NoauLa 2 [Creative & Hard] Dual Freestyle.
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