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Title: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Mar 20, 2009, 09:30: PM
This thread is all about the youth of football. Youngsters if you may.

Topic of Discussion: Giovani Dos Santos
(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5394/58760303.jpg)

Do you think Giovani Dos Santos move out of Barca was wise?
Is his loan move to Ipwish a sign of his dismal time at Spurs?
Does he a big timer or just a bench warmer?
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: cigar omar on Mar 20, 2009, 10:52: PM
That kid got fucked hard.

Belletoli is the man.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Sule on Mar 21, 2009, 10:27: AM
hes got talent but hes a type of player where you need to put confidence in him and build the team around him

if hes not the center of traffic on the time then he wont shine
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Mar 21, 2009, 11:52: AM
I believe he should move out of Tottenham and move back to Spain or go Italy
cause his a fast paced player usually winger forward and that's rare in English football
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Normando on Mar 21, 2009, 01:29: PM
He's only 19 so I'd give him time at spurs, including his loan move. After this season it wouldn't surprise me if he went out on loan again.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: redsforlife on Mar 21, 2009, 02:30: PM
he always was overrated, because mexico wanted to claim they had a player on the level of robinho or messi. this isn't dos santos's fault, but i doubt he will ever be the superstar he was supposed to be. he will probably become a solid player for a mid to lower level first division european side. more likely outside of Britain, because of the physicality of that league.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Mar 21, 2009, 07:23: PM
he was "overrated" because that mexican u-17 team was badass as a mother fucker, and he was an extremely influential player

if he can find his feet somewhere, he'll be a great player
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Mar 21, 2009, 09:20: PM
I can some how see the kid doing great 'ONCE HE LEAVES SPURS'
And i don't think he could play good in the EPL because of the physicality involved
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Mar 21, 2009, 09:50: PM
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And i don't think he could play good in the EPL because of the physicality involved

nah, "central" and south americans are about as bad as it gets physically

he may not be able to cope w/the pace, but that's another thing entirely
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: DanTheMan on Mar 22, 2009, 03:41: AM
spurs fucked him up, had he stayed at barca another yr he could have replaced ronaldinho after he left, and wud be better than Bojan atm...
i feel sorry for hi, i enjoy watching him play...
this reminds me of the Fredy Adu thing
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: cigar omar on Mar 22, 2009, 03:57: PM
he always was overrated, because mexico wanted to claim they had a player on the level of robinho or messi. this isn't dos santos's fault, but i doubt he will ever be the superstar he was supposed to be. he will probably become a solid player for a mid to lower level first division european side. more likely outside of Britain, because of the physicality of that league.
They should have invested their tim in Guardado.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Mar 24, 2009, 01:04: PM
next
Top Of Discussion:
Levan Kenia
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1489/60606211.jpg)
Georgian footballer who plays for Schalke. 18 year old and quiet a talent do you think he has a future?
i watched a few Schalke games and his a good player and gets game time too, i could see this just in a few year getting full games.

and while we are still on the topic of Georgian youngsters

Levan Mchedlidze
(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5558/22798456.jpg)
A good striker, threat from corners and isn't afraid to run at players.
Could these two be the future of Georgian football?
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Mar 24, 2009, 01:25: PM
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They should have invested their tim in Guardado.

dude has 44 caps at 22.  i don't think anyone has forgotten about him there

mexico will always have a great player every few years.  a hugo sanchez, temo, marquez, etc.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Sule on Mar 24, 2009, 02:41: PM
next
Top Of Discussion:
Levan Kenia
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1489/60606211.jpg)
Georgian footballer who plays for Schalke. 18 year old and quiet a talent do you think he has a future?
i watched a few Schalke games and his a good player and gets game time too, i could see this just in a few year getting full games.

and while we are still on the topic of Georgian youngsters

Levan Mchedlidze
(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5558/22798456.jpg)
A good striker, threat from corners and isn't afraid to run at players.
Could these two be the future of Georgian football?

TBH i havnt heard of either of these two but doesnt mean they arent good

If Lenan can start getting first team experiance he could form a deadly partnership with Rakitic, just a thought
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Mar 24, 2009, 04:18: PM
did i mention the second one players for Palermo
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Mar 28, 2009, 03:49: PM
@ Freddy Adu:

http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/28/freddy-adu-speaks-out/

pretty reasonable take on it
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Mar 28, 2009, 05:49: PM
NEW
Topic Of Discussion:
Adam Johnson
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4610/85405922.jpg)

Middelborough Winger fair to say the next Downing. his performances have earned him a spot in the starting line up and his in great form in his World Cup qualifier with Englands Under-21s.
Do you see him a the next Beckham like figure in the UK?
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: DanTheMan on Mar 28, 2009, 08:09: PM
both of those georgian players are good...
ireland are in georgias group in the WCQ, Kenia scored against us when we won 2-1, he looked a threat all game
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: TW89 on Mar 29, 2009, 09:41: AM
NEW
Topic Of Discussion:
Adam Johnson
Middelborough Winger fair to say the next Downing. his performances have earned him a spot in the starting line up and his in great form in his World Cup qualifier with Englands Under-21s.
Do you see him a the next Beckham like figure in the UK?
Never heard of him.

And Downing isnt that good, he only gets into the England side cos he's left footed, if he was right footed no one would of really heard of him.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Sule on Mar 29, 2009, 11:05: AM
i agree with TW89
i mean downing is left-footed and on his day he can control any game, but, if he isnt, then he looks absolutely horrible or non-existent
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Mar 29, 2009, 05:01: PM
NEW
Topic Of Discussion:
Adam Johnson
Middelborough Winger fair to say the next Downing. his performances have earned him a spot in the starting line up and his in great form in his World Cup qualifier with Englands Under-21s.
Do you see him a the next Beckham like figure in the UK?
Never heard of him.

And Downing isnt that good, he only gets into the England side cos he's left footed, if he was right footed no one would of really heard of him.
what the hell do you mean you never of Adam Johnson
do you watch EPL his a menus to the other teams defense (at times)
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: soccer-fanatic on Mar 29, 2009, 09:29: PM
NEW
Topic Of Discussion:
Adam Johnson
Middelborough Winger fair to say the next Downing. his performances have earned him a spot in the starting line up and his in great form in his World Cup qualifier with Englands Under-21s.
Do you see him a the next Beckham like figure in the UK?
Never heard of him.

And Downing isnt that good, he only gets into the England side cos he's left footed, if he was right footed no one would of really heard of him.
Downing has a magnificent left foot for crosses and stuff like that. But I agree on what you said TW89.

But then, he still has a lot of years in front of him. So maybe he will reach that next level in a few years.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Normando on Mar 30, 2009, 12:09: AM
I hope for Johnson's sake he isn't the next Downing.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: TW89 on Mar 30, 2009, 09:34: AM

what the hell do you mean you never of Adam Johnson
do you watch EPL hes a menace* to the other teams defense (at times)
Nah not heard of him, and I dont watch much of the Premiershit.

But then, he still has a lot of years in front of him. So maybe he will reach that next level in a few years.

Hmm I dunno, hes pretty much at his peak now, so hes not gonna improve that much. I think its consistency he needs to work on really, sometimes he looks great for boro but on the occasions hes played for England hes been pretty shite.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Mar 30, 2009, 10:15: AM
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menace

 :lol:

one of the few times i've been tempted to correct someone's spelling on this forum
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Mar 30, 2009, 07:24: PM
Boys feel free to add Players your-selves every play i post seems like no one know them

NEW
Top Of Discussion:

Marco Motta
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6854/20017692.jpg)

Romas (on-loan) Right Back by far of the finest young talent to come out of Italys Youth in a while.

Davide Santon
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/91/98582131.jpg)

Incredible just incredible how this young player can not only survive and continuously preform in an Inter defense with stars like Zanneti, Cordoba, Maxwell, Materazzi and Maicon just to name few.

Has Italy found the answers to they prayers?
Italy has bay far the oldest Full-Backs in International football at the moment and to have these two superstar and future legends to pop out of nowhere is like prayer being answer?

AND IF ANYONE SAYS THEY DON'T KNOW THESE TWO I WILL LOCK THIS THREAD!!! :cursing:
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Sule on Mar 31, 2009, 10:29: AM
Im a huge fan of santon as a right/left back myself i like his style, composure on and off the ball

He reads the play very well, plays like an aged veteran and fits in very nicely into Mourinho's system. I also noticed he links up quite nicely with Balotelli on the left

Motta is very talented as well but i havnt watched as much as him
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Normando on Mar 31, 2009, 12:07: PM
Im a huge fan of santon as a right/left back myself i like his style, composure on and off the ball

He reads the play very well, plays like an aged veteran and fits in very nicely into Mourinho's system. I also noticed he links up quite nicely with Balotelli on the left

Motta is very talented as well but i havnt watched as much as him

Same, except I'd like to see more results when Santon pushes forward with the ball. I'm sure this will happen in time though, so it's all good.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: TW89 on Apr 01, 2009, 08:06: AM
I havent heard of them either   hahahahah
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Apr 01, 2009, 01:31: PM
Okay big shot why don't you start a discussion of player you know (Youth)
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: moby on Apr 01, 2009, 07:49: PM
Im a huge fan of santon as a right/left back myself i like his style, composure on and off the ball

He reads the play very well, plays like an aged veteran and fits in very nicely into Mourinho's system. I also noticed he links up quite nicely with Balotelli on the left

Motta is very talented as well but i havnt watched as much as him

Same, except I'd like to see more results when Santon pushes forward with the ball. I'm sure this will happen in time though, so it's all good.

only brazilians have that skill (Maicon, Roberto Carlos, Marcelo)
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: TW89 on Apr 02, 2009, 03:21: AM
Okay big shot why don't you start a discussion of player you know (Youth)

Big shot? lol

I'll keep outta this thread now  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Normando on Apr 02, 2009, 07:44: AM
Im a huge fan of santon as a right/left back myself i like his style, composure on and off the ball

He reads the play very well, plays like an aged veteran and fits in very nicely into Mourinho's system. I also noticed he links up quite nicely with Balotelli on the left

Motta is very talented as well but i havnt watched as much as him

Same, except I'd like to see more results when Santon pushes forward with the ball. I'm sure this will happen in time though, so it's all good.

only brazilians have that skill (Maicon, Roberto Carlos, Marcelo)

That's a lie.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Apr 02, 2009, 08:11: AM
Okay big shot why don't you start a discussion of player you know (Youth)

Big shot? lol

I'll keep outta this thread now  :thumbsup:
no don't do that.
you were just frustrating me
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: TheGodEmperor on Apr 02, 2009, 08:17: AM
Im a huge fan of santon as a right/left back myself i like his style, composure on and off the ball

He reads the play very well, plays like an aged veteran and fits in very nicely into Mourinho's system. I also noticed he links up quite nicely with Balotelli on the left

Motta is very talented as well but i havnt watched as much as him

Same, except I'd like to see more results when Santon pushes forward with the ball. I'm sure this will happen in time though, so it's all good.

only brazilians have that skill (Maicon, Roberto Carlos, Marcelo)

That's a lie.
agreed
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Royal Freakiness on Apr 03, 2009, 03:26: AM
what about zoran tosic in Man U
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Zoran_Tosic_%281%29.jpg/158px-Zoran_Tosic_%281%29.jpg)
he's 21
my bro says he's been playing extremely good
unfortunately, I haven't been watching many recent man u matches so I wouldn't really know
so does anyone know/think if he's got the potential to be a star?

his team mate Adem Ljajic is pwning too (once again according to me bruv)
he's playing for Partizan (serbian club team)
he'll be arriving in man united next year
he's ONLY 17
anyone seen any matches where he played in?

both are Serbians
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Sule on Apr 03, 2009, 10:01: AM
apparently they're amazing but thats just from what ive read/heard
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Normando on Apr 04, 2009, 12:07: PM
Watched tosic in one game and was very impressed, definitely one to watch. Better than nani if you ask me
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Royal Freakiness on Apr 04, 2009, 12:36: PM
Watched tosic in one game and was very impressed, definitely one to watch. Better than nani if you ask me
:o
better than nani? damn. I'll look for some compilations of him.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Apr 04, 2009, 03:23: PM
Better than Nani?
I doubt, but i've never seen him so :dontknow:
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Normando on Apr 05, 2009, 08:27: AM
Just my opinion, but I do think he reads the game well and will be an overall better play. Nani's basically one dimensional in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: moby on Apr 05, 2009, 01:02: PM
Im a huge fan of santon as a right/left back myself i like his style, composure on and off the ball

He reads the play very well, plays like an aged veteran and fits in very nicely into Mourinho's system. I also noticed he links up quite nicely with Balotelli on the left

Motta is very talented as well but i havnt watched as much as him

Same, except I'd like to see more results when Santon pushes forward with the ball. I'm sure this will happen in time though, so it's all good.

only brazilians have that skill (Maicon, Roberto Carlos, Marcelo)

That's a lie.
agreed

evidence to prove your point both of you
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: TheGodEmperor on Apr 05, 2009, 02:14: PM
Sergio Ramos

case in point
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: cigar omar on Apr 05, 2009, 03:41: PM
Who the fuck is Nani  :lol: Shit cunt.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Normando on Apr 06, 2009, 03:59: AM
Im a huge fan of santon as a right/left back myself i like his style, composure on and off the ball

He reads the play very well, plays like an aged veteran and fits in very nicely into Mourinho's system. I also noticed he links up quite nicely with Balotelli on the left

Motta is very talented as well but i havnt watched as much as him

Same, except I'd like to see more results when Santon pushes forward with the ball. I'm sure this will happen in time though, so it's all good.

only brazilians have that skill (Maicon, Roberto Carlos, Marcelo)

That's a lie.
agreed

evidence to prove your point both of you

Sergio Ramos, Capdevila, riise, ashley cole, drenthe, oddo, yp lee, evra, gareth bale. All great attacking defenders. And those are off the top of my head. There are tons more.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: moby on Apr 06, 2009, 12:31: PM
god damn it  :down:

but still the brazilians are much better then them, the only ones that come close would be sergio ramous and ashely cole, the rest are much more defencive
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Apr 06, 2009, 01:46: PM
You bias and proud of it
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Normando on Apr 06, 2009, 02:43: PM
god damn it  :down:

but still the brazilians are much better then them, the only ones that come close would be sergio ramous and ashely cole, the rest are much more defencive

You don't know that if you thought brazilians were the only good attacking defenders. I'd say watch more matches and educate yourself.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Sule on Apr 06, 2009, 03:53: PM
yea europeans invented attacking defenders and latin america practiced the full-back position so bloody hard it looks like they started the dam thing

Fachetti is a great example, so is Beckenbauer. there are more but im too lazy to list them
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: moby on Apr 06, 2009, 07:36: PM
lay back every one

i was just freakin joking.

but you all must admit the current crop of LB's and RB's that are very attacking, the best are the brazilians.

which would you rather have on your dream team Maicon or Sergio Ramos?

Marcelo or Ashley cole?

all i'm saying is that when it comes to attack minded wing backs there are more brazilians then other nations
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: TheGodEmperor on Apr 07, 2009, 08:11: AM
yea europeans invented attacking defenders and latin america practiced the full-back position so bloody hard it looks like they started the dam thing

Fachetti is a great example, so is Beckenbauer. there are more but im too lazy to list them
Beckenbauer wasn't a fullback
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Sule on Apr 07, 2009, 11:31: AM
A) godemperor i said europeans started attacking defenders and brazilians focused on full-backs

B) Tbh marcelo or ashley cole? i wouldnt pick either. Id take lahm or even santon
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: TheGodEmperor on Apr 07, 2009, 12:43: PM
A) godemperor i said europeans started attacking defenders and brazilians focused on full-backs

B) Tbh marcelo or ashley cole? i wouldnt pick either. Id take lahm or even santon
Oh I though you were talking about fullbacks only. My bad.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: cigar omar on Apr 08, 2009, 12:20: AM
Lahm is good but hes a gets pushed around in defence the way Robinho gets pushed around at the other end.
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Normando on Apr 08, 2009, 02:44: PM
Mauro Matías Zárate
(http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/empics/20081102/18/1358257404-soccer-italian-serie-lazio-v-catania-calcio-stadio-olimpico.jpg)

Anyone know him? Great player who will only get better. Had a loan stint at Birmingham and is at Lazio now.

Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Apr 08, 2009, 06:07: PM
I'm a big fan of Zarate ever since his move to Birmingham two season ago i'll always hoped to see him in action
Too day his with Lazio must've ended up at the wrong side of Rome
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Normando on Apr 15, 2009, 01:45: PM
I think I read Man city and liverpool are in the hunt for zárate
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Apr 15, 2009, 05:43: PM
SPEAK OF MAN CITY

what's your views on Studrigde or what ever his name is
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Nicky on Apr 15, 2009, 07:51: PM
What do you guys think of Manchester United player Macheda (17 years) ?
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01382/federico_macheda1_1382762c.jpg)
He scored 2 winning goals last week and so he signed a new contract (now he gets 2245% wage improvement :saywhat:)
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Apr 15, 2009, 07:52: PM
he was stolen from Roma so i have no feelings of praise for the man
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Apr 16, 2009, 12:30: AM
lazio
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Normando on Apr 16, 2009, 10:48: AM
SPEAK OF MAN CITY

what's your views on Studrigde or what ever his name is

I think he's decent and will be a in and out premiership striker, in a few years.

Yeah Macheda is Lazio not roma
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: manutd. on Apr 16, 2009, 11:11: AM
I think Macheda is brilliant right now, given the fact he got 2 game-winning and very important goals in 2 appearances. He will be good in the future when he's older, and he did very well for the u-18 team and reserves!

KIKO MACHEDA!
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Apr 16, 2009, 11:21: AM
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I think he's decent and will be a in and out premiership striker, in a few years.

i saw him play for the first time against fulham last weekend.  i was fucking shocked at how "unorthdox" he is sometimes.  he definitely screams confident
Title: Re: The Potentials
Post by: Tito on Apr 16, 2009, 12:46: PM
lazio
oh yeah perttici or something was Roma

anyway samething