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Title: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 23, 2008, 10:07: AM
Well, I would like to have a discussion regarding Rooney.

He's a great player. He's vital for us, he brings passion to the game. You can tell he loves playing for us and for England. He's probably the best English player right now. He tracks back a lot and helps the defence, he can carry the ball up in no time, and his partnership with Ronaldo on the field is great. He creates so much damage for the opposition which is really important for a striker. The more you create damage, the sooner the opposition will break down.

What are your views?

Please no bullshit comments..
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: moby on Feb 23, 2008, 06:28: PM
in my opinion so no body begain insults and things like that. he is not a good player. he really has no skill. he suits the EPL since shooting is the only thing he is good at.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: cigar omar on Feb 23, 2008, 06:37: PM
Here are a few English lads who are just as good and I think most of them are better than Rooney but don't get the same amount of exposer Theo, Agbonlahor, Young, Lennon, Bentley, Joe Cole, SWP, A. Johnson and Downing. Hes no where near the best I'm not even gonna bother with the A. Coles, Terrys, Ferdinands, Lampards and Gerrards. Rooney is simply overrated.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 23, 2008, 10:14: PM
Here are a few English lads who are just as good and I think most of them are better than Rooney but don't get the same amount of exposer Theo, Agbonlahor, Young, Lennon, Bentley, Joe Cole, SWP, A. Johnson and Downing. Hes no where near the best I'm not even gonna bother with the A. Coles, Terrys, Ferdinands, Lampards and Gerrards. Rooney is simply overrated.

i have to disagree, firstly because of what i sed in another thread about man utd have never lost this season when rooney has played. when you get a manager like sir alex fergerson, capello saying rooney is a gr8 player, i dont really see any valid argument tht can come from any of us.  So it is not a matter of opinion, people might not like the way he plays which is fair enough, but to argue he isnt a extremly good player.... is just plain stupid
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 24, 2008, 02:04: AM

1:32  :bowdown:

Moby, Rooney has run the ball countless times and then chip it over the goalie when he's like a meter away from the goalie... do you even watch him?
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 24, 2008, 02:27: AM
im with borg on this one...... rooney and ronaldo... best attacking force n world football at the moment?
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 24, 2008, 02:28: AM
You could say that. Beautiful game last year v Bolton Ronaldo got a goal and 3 assists and Rooney got a hattrick and an assist. And you've just seen Ronaldo's nice cross to Rooney, what a goal.

Obviously the United haters will disagree. It just pisses me off how people can see no talent in that.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: cigar omar on Feb 24, 2008, 02:29: AM
Oh my god, now you've done it. HAHhahahahahah ROTFL in the world? lololol.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: cigar omar on Feb 24, 2008, 02:29: AM
Eto>>>>>> Rooney
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 24, 2008, 04:48: AM
I don't think in the world. Rooney is good. And that is where it stops. You don't become a good player because you "have passion and love the game!!" It doesn't really factor in to how well he plays. I love the game, i have passion, but i'm not the best player in the world. Is Rooney a good forward? Well, he has 8 goals this season, Tevez with 11. If anyone argues that Rooney has been better than Tevez this season, then that is plain stupid. Tevez has saved United's ass on multiple occasions, from embarassment at White Heart Lane and in Lyon for example. Tevez has simply been the better forward this year. Oh, but Rooney is the better player because he tracks back with passion and love for the game!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 24, 2008, 04:56: AM
That does make a difference imo. If you can help your defence, then it's better for the team. The more grit and determination you have, the better. Let's saying your down 1 goal in the 90th minute and the opposition has the ball in your half, are you just going to stand there? No, you're going to want to get the ball as fast as possible. That's the difference between a normal striker, and a good striker. Tevez also does this sometimes. Rooney was magnificent last year no doubt. This year he has been injured, and suspended for a few games.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Rude on Feb 24, 2008, 05:07: AM
C'mon elite its funny how u diss him and u play on what level, lol. u certainly dont know nothing about football ur just a fat nerd who keeps posting idiot comments;"I have the passion" and shit lmao
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 24, 2008, 05:11: AM
The difference between a normal striker and a good striker is the number of goals he can offer to the table, end of story. It doesn't matter how much work you put into defensive play, if you are not scoring goals, you are not a great striker. Doesn't that make sense? Isn't that the point of the forward position? You name me a forward that just stands there in the 90 minute blah blah. Every forward gets behind the ball in that situation, not just Rooney. Rooney is good, but at his age he should be scoring more goals per season, not less. He went from 16, to 14, and now he has 8 with 11 or so games remaining. He may break into 16 again, but that is double what he's scored in 20+ games. He should be going up in the amount of goals he scores. That is what seperates a good striker, from a great striker :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 24, 2008, 05:11: AM
C'mon elite its funny how u diss him and u play on what level, lol. u certainly dont know nothing about football ur just a fat nerd who keeps posting idiot comments;"I have the passion" and shit lmao

I don't know nothing? That's a double negative. So you imply I know my shit :biggrin:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Rude on Feb 24, 2008, 05:13: AM
anything i meant lol :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 24, 2008, 05:14: AM
The difference between a normal striker and a good striker is the number of goals he can offer to the table, end of story. It doesn't matter how much work you put into defensive play, if you are not scoring goals, you are not a great striker. Doesn't that make sense? Isn't that the point of the forward position? You name me a forward that just stands there in the 90 minute blah blah. Every forward gets behind the ball in that situation, not just Rooney. Rooney is good, but at his age he should be scoring more goals per season, not less. He went from 16, to 14, and now he has 8 with 11 or so games remaining. He may break into 16 again, but that is double what he's scored in 20+ games. He should be going up in the amount of goals he scores. That is what seperates a good striker, from a great striker :thumbsup:
He's been injured this year and he's been suspended. His assists have gone up. Just look how it levels out, Rooney use to get more goals than Ronaldo (RVN era, at the time Ronaldo got mostly assists), and then they got the same(RVN left, Rooney and Ronaldo started to pair), and now Ronaldo has taken over. Rooney is contributing to Ronaldo's goals.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 24, 2008, 05:16: AM
Ronaldo has taken over because he is miles better than Rooney.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 24, 2008, 05:17: AM
True, but you can't take anything away from Rooney because he sets him up as does everyone else.

Yesterday, there were countless times where Rooney could have stepped up to the table and scored that goal for his hatrick, but instead of going for his hat trick, he set up Saha, twice.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 24, 2008, 05:19: AM
He sets him up as does everyone else. So then give then equally distribute the credit instead of singling Rooney out as the reason to Ronaldo's goal scoring success.  :booty:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 24, 2008, 05:21: AM
Bitch.  :lol:

Last year, it was mostly Rooney who set up Ronaldo, and Ronaldo himself had those marvellous runs, but this year Rooney sets up other people as well. Like Saha yesterday, a very unselfish play.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 24, 2008, 05:23: AM
I'll give you yesterday, Rooney played really well. His second goals nice.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: cigar omar on Feb 24, 2008, 05:26: AM
If Rooney deserves a discussion thread so dose Danny Dichio.  :boxing:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 24, 2008, 05:28: AM
people may forget aswell that rooney has played wide left this season... and also as a lone striker.... rooney isnt the type of striker who will get 20 goals a season.... most good teams av the 20 goal a season striker.. and then a 12 goal a season striker... like berkamp and henry

but the way utd play they have tevez and rooney who will get around 10-15 goals each..... and then ronaldo with 20+

and he took apart arsenal and newcastle  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 24, 2008, 06:07: AM
Why is Rooney playing wide left?
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 24, 2008, 06:12: AM
Why is Rooney playing wide left?

not like tht like in a attack force of 3 so kina 4 3 3... and then when the defend it goes to 4 -5-1   , though im not sure when the last time they did tht was
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 24, 2008, 06:21: AM
We played 4-5-1 v Lyon I believe.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 24, 2008, 06:25: AM
Cool.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 24, 2008, 06:57: AM
is tevez is the lone striker when he is playing then?
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 24, 2008, 07:02: AM
No.

We have Tevez and Rooney upfront, and sometimes Ronaldo (like yesterday).

Rooney played v Lyon, and Tevez came in later in the game.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Chunkchenko on Feb 24, 2008, 07:43: AM
i voted yes. but hasnt been the sharpest tool in the box this season. Ronaldo is the top dog at the moment but i guess without rooney ronaldo doesnt perform as good.

the tevez, ronaldo and rooney strike force is most probably the best in the world atm.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 24, 2008, 07:45: AM
I've sort of noticed that too, .. when Rooney isn't playing, it's a bit tough for Ronaldo. Rooney creates the chances, Ronaldo finishes them.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 24, 2008, 07:50: AM
Barcalona's combination of Eto'o, Messi, and Henry is more lethal.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Chunkchenko on Feb 24, 2008, 07:54: AM
Bayerns also packing a lethal strike force.

Ribery, Toni and Klose. too bad they didnt make the CL this season.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Tito on Feb 24, 2008, 08:24: AM
i've seen better attack forces in second divsion team Ronney is over-rated
examples of better stike forces:
Kolse + Toni
Messi+Eto'o+Henry
Ronaldinho+Brojan+Dos Santos
Van Persi+Adebayor
etc...
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 24, 2008, 08:25: AM
Kaka + Kaka as well.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Tito on Feb 24, 2008, 03:51: PM
etc homeboy etc
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: cigar omar on Feb 25, 2008, 02:52: AM
Melbourne + Moby is another dangerous one.  :bowdown:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 25, 2008, 04:00: AM
i've seen better attack forces in second divsion team Ronney is over-rated
examples of better stike forces:
Kolse + Toni
Messi+Eto'o+Henry
Ronaldinho+Brojan+Dos Santos
Van Persi+Adebayor
etc...

Van Persi+Adebayor.... haven't really played together yet lol

Rooney-Ronaldo-Tevez is as good as any you have mentioned
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 25, 2008, 06:15: AM
i've seen better attack forces in second divsion team Ronney is over-rated
examples of better stike forces:
Kolse + Toni
Messi+Eto'o+Henry
Ronaldinho+Brojan+Dos Santos
Van Persi+Adebayor
etc...

Van Persi+Adebayor.... haven't really played together yet lol

Rooney-Ronaldo-Tevez is as good as any you have mentioned
Bow don't mind his posts, he just hates English football so he'll try and say anything just to bash it.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: e94ever on Feb 25, 2008, 06:44: AM
um on a note a winger has more goals than a striker am i the only one thats finds this wierd and i know u are going to go blah blah blah he had an injury but watever....plus fellas to become a professional player u gotta be good, but  in my eyes,and many more ppl's eyes no. one more theing ive often noticed about him he never looks at the goal wen shooting lol :nopity:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 25, 2008, 06:45: AM
Ronaldo is amazing, he's not expected to score, but.. he just does. Why should Rooney have to score if Ronaldo is already winning games for us, now I'm not making excuses, but you see my point.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: e94ever on Feb 25, 2008, 06:53: AM
AMAZING.... i would hardly call him that probally 'diving fool'  maybe, anyway ronaldo has 98 shots and 57 shots on goal and 21 goals and u are saying u dont expect him to score thats highly unlikey  :bs:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 25, 2008, 06:56: AM
He's not expected to score, our strikers are!
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: e94ever on Feb 25, 2008, 07:01: AM
and hes still scoring than them as i said before...... :angry:
and it makes no sense arguing with a man utd. supporter they will never give up an arguement
 :hello:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 25, 2008, 07:02: AM
Yeah, simply because they don't need to because he's already winning games for us.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Tito on Feb 25, 2008, 08:42: AM
i've seen better attack forces in second divsion team Ronney is over-rated
examples of better stike forces:
Kolse + Toni
Messi+Eto'o+Henry
Ronaldinho+Brojan+Dos Santos
Van Persi+Adebayor
etc...

Van Persi+Adebayor.... haven't really played together yet lol

Rooney-Ronaldo-Tevez is as good as any you have mentioned
Bow don't mind his posts, he just hates English football so he'll try and say anything just to bash it.
the last i check Van persi and Adebayor were EPL players when did they get transfered  :rolleyes:
anyway to continue the list
Van nisteroy + Robinho
Bebratov + Keane
Inzaghi + Pirlo + Kaka
etc...
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 25, 2008, 08:45: AM
I meant from the others on your list.

Ronaldo + Rooney + Tevez are way better than Berbatov and Keane.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 25, 2008, 01:25: PM
Individually, however, Berbatov is much better than Rooney :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Tito on Feb 25, 2008, 01:36: PM
individually better than Ronney list:
Drogba
Raul
Van nisterooy
Bebratov
Klose
Toni
Anelka
Adebator
Van Persi
Torres
Ibrahimovic
Totti
Eto'o
Henry

Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: cigar omar on Feb 25, 2008, 03:48: PM
Amen to that.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 25, 2008, 04:40: PM
I second the list.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Tito on Feb 25, 2008, 04:47: PM
and i didn't even add Kaka, Ronaldinho, Messi, Ribery, Huntelaar, Elmander, Diouf, Mancini and maybe even Pato
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 25, 2008, 05:01: PM
Not Pato, not yet. I would say Tevez as well.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: cigar omar on Feb 25, 2008, 06:15: PM
Teves is underrated hes always impressed me. I was happy when he was linked with Chelsea.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: moby on Feb 25, 2008, 07:15: PM
ronaldo and rooney suit. since ronaldo is the one that does everything and rooney simly cherrypicks it.

what about ronaldinho and eto

Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 25, 2008, 10:19: PM
firstly about rooney and ronaldo being the best attacking force in the world... why not look at the stats...

Rooney-Ronaldo-Tevez - 57 goals

RVN - Raul - Robinho - 43 goals

Messi-Henry-Eto'o-Ronaldinho - 45 goals

Abebayor-Eduardo-Van Persie - 41 goals

Toni - Klose - Ribert - 38 goals

and considering Rooney isn't and out and out striker, he has scored 8 prem goals in 17 games, just below 1 goal every other game, also jn all competions 13 goals in 27 games....so again just below 1 goal every other game... and he also has created 9 goals so ..where the last 3 seasons he created 14 and 16...

not to mention last season he scored 23 goals... and the season before scored 19


and not to mention Man Utd have never lost with him in the team...

still dont believe rooney is a great player, why not ask one of the best that ever lived Maradonna....

"I don't know too well how the election is done but I think that Rooney is better than Kaka," Maradona explained in El Grafico.

....

Former World Cup winner Diego Maradona says Wayne Rooney is better than Kaka, Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi.


The Argentinian ace doesn’t believe AC Milan midfielder Kaka should have won the prestigious Ballon d’Or award, but neither does he think second-placed Cristiano Ronaldo deserved the accolade.


Instead, the Argentina legend reckons Ronaldo’s United team-mate Wayne Rooney has a far stronger claim to the title of best footballer in the world.


lets look at some of the awards he has won aswell

    * FA Premier League Player of the Month: February 2005, December 2005, March 2006 , November 2007
    * PFA Team of the Year: 2005-06
    * Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year: 2005-06
    * FIFPro World Young Player of the Year: 2005
    * PFA Young Player of the Year: 2005, 2006
    * PFA Fans' Player of the Year (Premiership): 2006
    * Match of the Day's Goal of the Season: 2004-05, 2006-07
    * BBC Sports Personality of the Year Young Personality: 2002
    * UEFA European Championship 2004 Team of the Tournament


 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: e94ever on Feb 25, 2008, 10:26: PM
and that is coming from a steriod and cocaine using crackhead!

PELE4EVER..... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 25, 2008, 10:33: PM
and that is coming from a steriod and cocaine using crackhead!

PELLE4EVER..... :thumbsup:

lets hope you mean pele

looks like the rooney arguers arguments are being to become very thin and now people are just throwing and random insults lol.....
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 26, 2008, 05:11: AM
Who cares what Maradona thinks? Why does his opinon mean anything? He doesn't think Kaka should have won because he's Brazilian :dontknow:

That's a cute little list of awards that Rooney has won. It's a shame Messi has won far more things than that. Should we even talk about what Henry, Ronaldinho, and Eto'o have won? Rooney is lucky his teamate Ronaldo is amazing this season. Are you forgeting the fact that Ronaldo only needs 3 goals to tie the most a United player has ever scored in a season? No wonder this statistic of 57 goals is so jacked up. And considering the time that Messi has been out Injured, Ronaldinho literally just getting back into form this season, and Eto'o out for over a month in Africa? And before Africa, Eto'o was out for a few months. Barcalona played the majority of the season with Henry - Giovani - Bojan, with Messi sprinkled in from time to time. Don't come and try to tell me that Rooney is better than Eto'o, Messi, Ronaldinho, Drogba, and even Fernando Torres in his first season in England has done more than he has. Torres is much more prolific than him. Not an out and out striker? Remember a guy on Arsenal who didn't play as an out and out striker? Right, that was Thierry Henry himself. Always coming into the midfield to collect the ball. He had himself a few golden boot seasons at that.

You are fooling yourself if you think Rooney is great because he has the best player in the world next to him supplying him. Who wouldn't be scoring the goals that Ronaldo supplies? I don't understand what it is about Rooney. When Beckham and Ruud used to link up countless times at United (not to mention Ruud would score 20+ a season on multiple occasions), no one would talk about Ruud being the best player in the world. Maradona is a drug addict, and I don't see why you would pay attention to anything that comes out of his mouth.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 26, 2008, 05:26: AM
Who cares what Maradona thinks? Why does his opinon mean anything? He doesn't think Kaka should have won because he's Brazilian :dontknow:

That's a cute little list of awards that Rooney has won. It's a shame Messi has won far more things than that. Should we even talk about what Henry, Ronaldinho, and Eto'o have won? Rooney is lucky his teamate Ronaldo is amazing this season. Are you forgeting the fact that Ronaldo only needs 3 goals to tie the most a United player has ever scored in a season? No wonder this statistic of 57 goals is so jacked up. And considering the time that Messi has been out Injured, Ronaldinho literally just getting back into form this season, and Eto'o out for over a month in Africa? And before Africa, Eto'o was out for a few months. Barcalona played the majority of the season with Henry - Giovani - Bojan, with Messi sprinkled in from time to time. Don't come and try to tell me that Rooney is better than Eto'o, Messi, Ronaldinho, Drogba, and even Fernando Torres in his first season in England has done more than he has. Torres is much more prolific than him. Not an out and out striker? Remember a guy on Arsenal who didn't play as an out and out striker? Right, that was Thierry Henry himself. Always coming into the midfield to collect the ball. He had himself a few golden boot seasons at that.

You are fooling yourself if you think Rooney is great because he has the best player in the world next to him supplying him. Who wouldn't be scoring the goals that Ronaldo supplies? I don't understand what it is about Rooney. When Beckham and Ruud used to link up countless times at United (not to mention Ruud would score 20+ a season on multiple occasions), no one would talk about Ruud being the best player in the world. Maradona is a drug addict, and I don't see why you would pay attention to anything that comes out of his mouth.

firstly maradonnas "opinion" was put in there to show what all of our opinions mean, and if you think his mean nothing.... which i was hoping someone would say... then it shows mine, yours etc  really doesn't mean anything either...... but what I was doing was listing facts of why i believe you underrate rooney.

How many goals a season did henry get at rooneys age... if you are going to compare people to rooney i think you have to compare people in his ages range rather then people in the peak of there career considering rooney will not be there for 5 years or so. The person you would then compare him to would be Messi who has 15 goals in all competitions... Rooney has 13...pretty similare record this season.... and messi also has world class players who supply him with goals.

And its true when you kind of say ronaldo brings out the best in rooney, but that is what world class players do, and I am sure if you asked ronaldo he would say Rooney brings out the best in him.

But when you seem to be arguing against the likes of alex fergie...capello....etc.. and I haven't once argued that at this stage in his career Messi is slightly ahead of rooney with out a doubt.

and i also never stated that rooney was better then some of the players you mentioned...so i can let you argue with yourself about that.

But lets be honest elite... the reason you dont like rooney has nothing to do with his playing ability, its because you dont like us english people calling him a great talent and a very good player, you dont like man utd, and you dont like the way he tour arsenal apart a few weeks back  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 26, 2008, 05:45: AM
Oh my god, he had a good game in the FA Cup.

Ronaldo would say that Rooney brings the best out of him because they are friends. Not because Rooney really brings the best out of him. It is obvious that Ronaldo brings the best out of himself and the rest of the team, because quite frankly without Ronaldo, United would be further behind Arsenal.

Let's see. Alex Fergie is United's manager. Capello is England's manager. So OF COURSE they are going to say Rooney is the best. It is just as biased as me being an Arsenal fan and saying he isn't. Make sense?

I've never been a cocaine addict, in fact never done any sort of drug, so I would proabably rate my opinon over someone who has and still does. Would you take advice from a drug addict or a sober person?
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Adi on Feb 26, 2008, 05:46: AM
Some of you obviously don't watch any real football games... you just talk about what you "assume" is going on.

Stop your posts right now if that's you.

Oh, and please keep Klose out of this. He's not the player Rooney is. Saying the Toni-Klose combination is better than Rooney-Ronaldo is sad. :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 26, 2008, 05:47: AM
What are you on about?
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Adi on Feb 26, 2008, 05:52: AM
Not saying you necessarily, but after reading some posts you can tell that some members arguing against Rooney have maybe seen him play twice in the past year. What kind of arguement do you have if you haven't even seen the player play? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 26, 2008, 06:18: AM
Not saying you necessarily, but after reading some posts you can tell that some members arguing against Rooney have maybe seen him play twice in the past year. What kind of arguement do you have if you haven't even seen the player play? :rolleyes:

thank you.... see i am not arguing that rooney is better then certain players.... and there are players i like better then him
for example.... Henry, Messi,Gerrard, Drogba,Fabregas,Ronaldinho, Kaka the list goes on

and elite..the thing is Fergie bought rooney, and i never said anything about rooney being the best.... capello could of dropped rooney like he did others but he didnt because rooney is a very good player... one of few match winners england actually have.... but looks like you have your opinion and i have mine...atleast you can put up a real reason for disliking him unlike others....
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: cigar omar on Feb 26, 2008, 06:47: AM
Maradona and Pele will say anything to stay relevant.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 26, 2008, 06:59: AM
Maradona and Pele will say anything to stay relevant.

lol good post.....maybe some of you guys need to watch rooney with an open mind :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 26, 2008, 07:24: AM
Not saying you necessarily, but after reading some posts you can tell that some members arguing against Rooney have maybe seen him play twice in the past year. What kind of arguement do you have if you haven't even seen the player play? :rolleyes:

thank you.... see i am not arguing that rooney is better then certain players.... and there are players i like better then him
for example.... Henry, Messi,Gerrard, Drogba,Fabregas,Ronaldinho, Kaka the list goes on

and elite..the thing is Fergie bought rooney, and i never said anything about rooney being the best.... capello could of dropped rooney like he did others but he didnt because rooney is a very good player... one of few match winners england actually have.... but looks like you have your opinion and i have mine...atleast you can put up a real reason for disliking him unlike others....

It's not that I dislike Rooney; honestly in my mind I havn't seen him produce world class form as of yet. Ok, I'll give you that he is a match winner for England, because to be honest England doesn't have much cohesion right now, and havn't for a few years.

Yes, Pele and Maradona like to chime in bullshit from time to time and everyone loves to listen. I hate listening to what they have to say. Their day is over, they should be happy to be the best 2 of all time.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 26, 2008, 07:32: AM
Not saying you necessarily, but after reading some posts you can tell that some members arguing against Rooney have maybe seen him play

twice in the past year. What kind of arguement do you have if you haven't even seen the player play? :rolleyes:



thank you.... see i am not arguing that rooney is better then certain players.... and there are players i like better then him
for example.... Henry, Messi,Gerrard, Drogba,Fabregas,Ronaldinho, Kaka the list goes on

and elite..the thing is Fergie bought rooney, and i never said anything about rooney being the best.... capello could of dropped rooney like he did others but he didnt because rooney is a very good player... one of few match winners england actually have.... but looks like you have your opinion and i have mine...atleast you can put up a real reason for disliking him unlike others....

It's not that I dislike Rooney; honestly in my mind I havn't seen him produce world class form as of yet. Ok, I'll give you that he is a match winner for England, because to be honest England doesn't have much cohesion right now, and havn't for a few years.

Yes, Pele and Maradona like to chime in bullshit from time to time and everyone loves to listen. I hate listening to what they have to say. Their day is over, they should be happy to be the best 2 of all time.

along with rooney ofcourse  :angel:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Chunkchenko on Feb 26, 2008, 07:39: AM
Some of you obviously don't watch any real football games... you just talk about what you "assume" is going on.

Stop your posts right now if that's you.

Oh, and please keep Klose out of this. He's not the player Rooney is. Saying the Toni-Klose combination is better than Rooney-Ronaldo is sad. :rolleyes:

to be fair though bayern have played 6 games less than united. but i havnt doubted rooney and saying hes shit must be coming from a person who doesnt watch many united games.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Feb 26, 2008, 09:11: AM
Adi takes the words out of my mouth. [Not to ELITE though, to others.]
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: cigar omar on Feb 26, 2008, 05:22: PM
Some of you obviously don't watch any real football games... you just talk about what you "assume" is going on.

Stop your posts right now if that's you.

Oh, and please keep Klose out of this. He's not the player Rooney is. Saying the Toni-Klose combination is better than Rooney-Ronaldo is sad. :rolleyes:


I actually watch more Premier league than the other leagues because every single game is broadcast LIVE on cable here even the ones that are on at the same time. I always see Rooney play and he is not even in the top 10 strikers in the world right now. I don't know what those who are make it seem he is top 3 are watching.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Feb 26, 2008, 11:01: PM
Some of you obviously don't watch any real football games... you just talk about what you "assume" is going on.

Stop your posts right now if that's you.

Oh, and please keep Klose out of this. He's not the player Rooney is. Saying the Toni-Klose combination is better than Rooney-Ronaldo is sad. :rolleyes:


I actually watch more Premier league than the other leagues because every single game is broadcast LIVE on cable here even the ones that are on at the same time. I always see Rooney play and he is not even in the top 10 strikers in the world right now. I don't know what those who are make it seem he is top 3 are watching.

dunno who said he was in the top 3??? but I would say rooney is a top ten striker in the world...
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Feb 27, 2008, 01:18: AM
This is true, here they show every single EPL game, but only a select few of the La Liga and Serie A games.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: cigar omar on Feb 27, 2008, 05:31: PM
They have stopped showing Seria A I have to pay extra now just to get Seria A. :cursing:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Tito on Feb 29, 2008, 06:31: PM
i watch EPL week in week out but i just don't see Rooney as a great striker
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: moby on Mar 01, 2008, 11:30: AM
i watch EPL week in week out but i just don't see Rooney as a great striker

there we go!
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Mar 04, 2008, 07:06: AM
i watch EPL week in week out but i just don't see Rooney as a great striker

there we go!

lets be honest tito jackson doesn't no much about football, or as he calls it "soccer"
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Mar 04, 2008, 10:10: AM
Hey; i call it soccer sometimes.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Tito on Mar 04, 2008, 03:44: PM
i watch EPL week in week out but i just don't see Rooney as a great striker

there we go!

lets be honest tito jackson doesn't no much about football, or as he calls it "soccer"
i 'no' more about football than you or any other ignorant Brit (or in Borg's case Brit kiss ass)
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Bow on Mar 04, 2008, 06:47: PM
i watch EPL week in week out but i just don't see Rooney as a great striker

there we go!

lets be honest tito jackson doesn't no much about football, or as he calls it "soccer"
i 'no' more about football than you or any other ignorant Brit (or in Borg's case Brit kiss ass)

lol firstly I was joking, secondly I wouldn't make a claim like that, as you dont actually know how much as know about football, and considering I am from a country where football is the main sport....I wouldn't make that claim lol, especially considering you cant even construct  a valid argument together.

See if you knew something about football you would either give a valid reason as to why you do not like rooney, or you would use common sense and see tht the footballing world is right and you a wrong and that he is a very good players! brap
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Tito on Mar 04, 2008, 07:21: PM
Rooney isn't the a contestant player and constancy is the key to being a striker i just don't see that in Wayne
there are many many striker that do better than him
if that ain't valid than this world ain't valid
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: manutd. on Mar 04, 2008, 10:29: PM
K Tito you've gone too far now. I'm not a kiss ass. You're the one who dickrides Melbourne every fucking day.

Next, if you really knew more than the Bow, than you'd know why there are 38 games rather than 40.

Finally, you say you watch the EPL every week. But then earlier you say you never watch a United game, and you also said you never watch the EPL cause it's crap.

Well, make up your mind.
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Tito on Mar 05, 2008, 09:38: AM
i never siad i don't EPl cuase it suck but i did say it suck if its on every Saturday and sunday night i have to watch it there not too many other leagues matches shown

plus how do i dickride Melbourne

and just cuase i ask one silly question doesn't mean Bow knows more than me
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: cigar omar on Mar 05, 2008, 04:57: PM
K Tito you've gone too far now. I'm not a kiss ass. You're the one who dickrides Melbourne every fucking day.

Next, if you really knew more than the Bow, than you'd know why there are 38 games rather than 40.

Finally, you say you watch the EPL every week. But then earlier you say you never watch a United game, and you also said you never watch the EPL cause it's crap.

Well, make up your mind.
Hey! females only.  :down:

PS what makes you think Tito kisses my ass, well everyone here dose it but what sets him above the rest? Just wondering?

Brog your too much of an EPL crusader. Chill lad.


Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: ^_^ on Mar 06, 2008, 04:48: AM
This is entertaining :booty:
Title: Re: Rooney - Discussion
Post by: Chunkchenko on Mar 06, 2008, 05:01: AM
i watch EPL week in week out but i just don't see Rooney as a great striker

there we go!

lets be honest tito jackson doesn't no much about football, or as he calls it "soccer"
i 'no' more about football than you or any other ignorant Brit (or in Borg's case Brit kiss ass)

lol firstly I was joking, secondly I wouldn't make a claim like that, as you dont actually know how much as know about football, and considering I am from a country where football is the main sport....I wouldn't make that claim lol, especially considering you cant even construct  a valid argument together.

See if you knew something about football you would either give a valid reason as to why you do not like rooney, or you would use common sense and see tht the footballing world is right and you a wrong and that he is a very good players! brap

Holy shit! a sentance from The Bow without any spelling mistakes  :bowdown:

If i'm going to argue i at least give a valid reason as to why i'm arguing over the subject unlike some of Titos previous posts. But if we don't dick ride once in a while then you might as well be a mormen.