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Title: nt Combos
Post by: imagestyles on Feb 18, 2009, 03:30: AM
The only nt combos I can do at the moment are cross-htw, cross-atw, Tatw-atw and Matw-atw. How can I start to get matw-matw(nt) and so on? It doesn't seem like my feet are fast enough. I don't know if it's my touch or what.  :dontknow:
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: M4R10 on Feb 18, 2009, 03:47: AM
it is just practicing, timing and speed
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Christiaan on Feb 18, 2009, 03:57: AM
start with Cross matw nt! :3some:
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: DanTheMan on Feb 18, 2009, 05:16: AM
start with cross amatw or cross atatw nt theyre the easiest
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: SvenF on Feb 18, 2009, 05:21: AM
start with cross amatw or cross atatw nt theyre the easiest
I would say that cross-matw(nt) is the easiest, because when doing cross-atatw(nt) or -amatw(nt), you have to involve your weak foot at the first or the second trick. So personally I would say to start with cross-matw(nt).
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Leha on Feb 18, 2009, 05:28: AM
I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: SvenF on Feb 18, 2009, 05:32: AM
I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Leha on Feb 18, 2009, 05:36: AM
I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: imagestyles on Feb 18, 2009, 05:45: AM
Thanks for all the feedback! My style is okay... but not great.
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Christiaan on Feb 18, 2009, 05:45: AM
I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it

he said he only can do tatw atw nt and that kinda nt's if he practise cross matw nt and he can do it easily he can try matw matw nt, tatw matw nt! :thumbsup:
thats my opinion
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Christiaan on Feb 18, 2009, 05:45: AM
i mean, i agree with Sven :thumbsup:
(ofcourse i agree with Sven :cheers:)
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Leha on Feb 18, 2009, 05:49: AM
I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it

he said he only can do tatw atw nt and that kinda nt's if he practise cross matw nt and he can do it easily he can try matw matw nt, tatw matw nt! :thumbsup:
thats my opinion
it will take more time for him... it's his decision
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Fee on Feb 18, 2009, 05:51: AM
I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it

worst example ever.
so do you think if i have a good style that i can do my first patw with perfect style?

and my advice is to start with cross-matw nt, the easiest one and it´s helpfull for other combos like cross-amatwnt ... too.
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Leha on Feb 18, 2009, 06:09: AM
I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it

worst example ever.
so do you think if i have a good style that i can do my first patw with perfect style?

and my advice is to start with cross-matw nt, the easiest one and it´s helpfull for other combos like cross-amatwnt ... too.

patw is a trick on speed, matw nt - on timing (you don't need to move your legs fast)... and what do you mean about 'perfect style on patw'? Maybe it will lok like tb in the end, but it isn't style...
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: SvenF on Feb 18, 2009, 06:18: AM
I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it

worst example ever.
so do you think if i have a good style that i can do my first patw with perfect style?

and my advice is to start with cross-matw nt, the easiest one and it´s helpfull for other combos like cross-amatwnt ... too.

patw is a trick on speed, matw nt - on timing (you don't need to move your legs fast)... and what do you mean about 'perfect style on patw'? Maybe it will lok like tb in the end, but it isn't style...
If it isn't style, what is it then? I agree with Fee.

and about this:

I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it

he said he only can do tatw atw nt and that kinda nt's if he practise cross matw nt and he can do it easily he can try matw matw nt, tatw matw nt! :thumbsup:
thats my opinion
it will take more time for him... it's his decision

More time to do what? I would rather take more time to get consistant at easier tricks, to get a better style when trying to do more difficult tricks. Of course, if he skips cross-matw(nt) and immediately goes to matw-matw(nt), it will take less time for him to get this combo, but what's the point of it if he has no good style on it. I agree that he can do whatever he wants, but isn't it our job to give him advices that he will take advantage most? Otherwise he wouldn't have asked us to tell him.
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: imagestyles on Feb 18, 2009, 06:20: AM
Here's my newest video:
feature=channel_page
Tell me if my style is bad or not...
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Leha on Feb 18, 2009, 06:29: AM
I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it

worst example ever.
so do you think if i have a good style that i can do my first patw with perfect style?

and my advice is to start with cross-matw nt, the easiest one and it´s helpfull for other combos like cross-amatwnt ... too.

patw is a trick on speed, matw nt - on timing (you don't need to move your legs fast)... and what do you mean about 'perfect style on patw'? Maybe it will lok like tb in the end, but it isn't style...
If it isn't style, what is it then? I agree with Fee.

and about this:

I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it

he said he only can do tatw atw nt and that kinda nt's if he practise cross matw nt and he can do it easily he can try matw matw nt, tatw matw nt! :thumbsup:
thats my opinion
it will take more time for him... it's his decision

More time to do what? I would rather take more time to get consistant at easier tricks, to get a better style when trying to do more difficult tricks. Of course, if he skips cross-matw(nt) and immediately goes to matw-matw(nt), it will take less time for him to get this combo, but what's the point of it if he has no good style on it. I agree that he can do whatever he wants, but isn't it our job to give him advices that he will take advantage most? Otherwise he wouldn't have asked us to tell him.

it means that you have to practice patw more, because you haven't got 'extra time' after it...
more time to do cross-matw nt and then matw-matw nt. Maybe he will have pretty nice style without cross-matw nt, don't be so consider
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Fee on Feb 18, 2009, 06:33: AM
maybe, but maybe not.


just do what ever you want, but my advice is to start with the easiert one.
or do you start with amatw-amatw nt before you can do cross-amatwnt?

i don´t think so  :thumbsup:

i´m out of that discussion
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: SvenF on Feb 18, 2009, 06:34: AM
I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it

worst example ever.
so do you think if i have a good style that i can do my first patw with perfect style?

and my advice is to start with cross-matw nt, the easiest one and it´s helpfull for other combos like cross-amatwnt ... too.

patw is a trick on speed, matw nt - on timing (you don't need to move your legs fast)... and what do you mean about 'perfect style on patw'? Maybe it will lok like tb in the end, but it isn't style...
If it isn't style, what is it then? I agree with Fee.

and about this:

I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it

he said he only can do tatw atw nt and that kinda nt's if he practise cross matw nt and he can do it easily he can try matw matw nt, tatw matw nt! :thumbsup:
thats my opinion
it will take more time for him... it's his decision

More time to do what? I would rather take more time to get consistant at easier tricks, to get a better style when trying to do more difficult tricks. Of course, if he skips cross-matw(nt) and immediately goes to matw-matw(nt), it will take less time for him to get this combo, but what's the point of it if he has no good style on it. I agree that he can do whatever he wants, but isn't it our job to give him advices that he will take advantage most? Otherwise he wouldn't have asked us to tell him.

it means that you have to practice patw more, because you haven't got 'extra time' after it...
more time to do cross-matw nt and then matw-matw nt. Maybe he will have pretty nice style without cross-matw nt, don't be so consider
I can guarantee you that almost everyone who does matw-matw(nt) before cross-matw(nt) has a bad style on matw-matw(nt), it would look sloppy..
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: SvenF on Feb 18, 2009, 06:35: AM
maybe, but maybe not.


just do what ever you want, but my advice is to start with the easiert one.
or do you start with amatw-amatw nt before you can do cross-amatwnt?

i don´t think so  :thumbsup:

i´m out of that discussion
A lot of people do this, but you can see the result.
But just let it be as it is, everyone has his opinion. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Leha on Feb 18, 2009, 06:36: AM
maybe, but maybe not.


just do what ever you want, but my advice is to start with the easiert one.
or do you start with amatw-amatw nt before you can do cross-amatwnt?

i don´t think so  :thumbsup:

i´m out of that discussion
yeah, I have done amatw-amatw nt before cross-amatw nt


I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it

worst example ever.
so do you think if i have a good style that i can do my first patw with perfect style?

and my advice is to start with cross-matw nt, the easiest one and it´s helpfull for other combos like cross-amatwnt ... too.

patw is a trick on speed, matw nt - on timing (you don't need to move your legs fast)... and what do you mean about 'perfect style on patw'? Maybe it will lok like tb in the end, but it isn't style...
If it isn't style, what is it then? I agree with Fee.

and about this:

I would say start with matw-matw nt, not with cross-matw nt, it will be more useful I think
Maybe more useful, but I can guarantee if he starts with matw-matw(nt) it will be really bad style, because you have less time to complete matw-matw(nt).
if he already has good style, he will do it stylish... if he has problems with style - anyway he needs to repair it

he said he only can do tatw atw nt and that kinda nt's if he practise cross matw nt and he can do it easily he can try matw matw nt, tatw matw nt! :thumbsup:
thats my opinion
it will take more time for him... it's his decision

More time to do what? I would rather take more time to get consistant at easier tricks, to get a better style when trying to do more difficult tricks. Of course, if he skips cross-matw(nt) and immediately goes to matw-matw(nt), it will take less time for him to get this combo, but what's the point of it if he has no good style on it. I agree that he can do whatever he wants, but isn't it our job to give him advices that he will take advantage most? Otherwise he wouldn't have asked us to tell him.

it means that you have to practice patw more, because you haven't got 'extra time' after it...
more time to do cross-matw nt and then matw-matw nt. Maybe he will have pretty nice style without cross-matw nt, don't be so consider
I can guarantee you that almost everyone who does matw-matw(nt) before cross-matw(nt) has a bad style on matw-matw(nt), it would look sloppy..

I have done matw-matw nt before cross matw nt, and it looked pretty nice
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Mikael on Feb 18, 2009, 06:38: AM
Start with getting your lip pierced. ;)

P.S. You can do tatw-atw ot tatw-atw nt? You didn't specify, lol. Anyway, you have to jump higher when doing matw nt after something - practice your kamatws first.
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Christiaan on Feb 18, 2009, 06:55: AM
Here's my newest video:
feature=channel_page
Tell me if my style is bad or not...

style is really good! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Magnus on Feb 18, 2009, 07:18: AM
Yeah I agree with Sven, Fee and Chris. Start with co-matw(nt) first. When you've mastered that, and you can do it with good style, then I suggest that you start with co-amatw(nt) and co-atatw(nt). But as the other have mentioned: These nt combos involve a left foot trick, either co or amatw/atatw. But remember, practise these combos before trying matw-matw(nt) or tatw-amatw(nt) or whatever. I remember I used to struggle ALOT with tatw-matw (nt). It was very sloppy. And then I practised only co-matw (nt) for a week and it looked much better after that :thumbsup:

Btw: Your style is really good man! Looking forward to your next video:)
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: imagestyles on Feb 18, 2009, 07:37: AM
Yeah I agree with Sven, Fee and Chris. Start with co-matw(nt) first. When you've mastered that, and you can do it with good style, then I suggest that you start with co-amatw(nt) and co-atatw(nt). But as the other have mentioned: These nt combos involve a left foot trick, either co or amatw/atatw. But remember, practise these combos before trying matw-matw(nt) or tatw-amatw(nt) or whatever. I remember I used to struggle ALOT with tatw-matw (nt). It was very sloppy. And then I practised only co-matw (nt) for a week and it looked much better after that :thumbsup:

Btw: Your style is really good man! Looking forward to your next video:)
 


Thanks for the tips!
Here's my newest video:
feature=channel_page
Tell me if my style is bad or not...

style is really good! :thumbsup:

Thanks, Christiaan  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Nicky on Feb 18, 2009, 08:33: AM
In my opinion you have to start with cross-matw nt, when you have done this a couple of times (15 times er something) you will see that you gets faster. Now you have to improve your matw, this trick must be done really fast and high so first you have to practise this trick till you can do this trick fast and high.
Question: isn't it easier to begin with tatw-matw nt instead of matw-matw nt because when you do tatw-matw nt you can faster around the ball?
Succes!
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: L_I_S on Feb 18, 2009, 05:56: PM
even easyer than co-matw nt is aj-matw nt, well i did that 1 first.
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Amine on Feb 18, 2009, 11:09: PM
In my opinion you have to start with cross-matw nt, when you have done this a couple of times (15 times er something) you will see that you gets faster. Now you have to improve your matw, this trick must be done really fast and high so first you have to practise this trick till you can do this trick fast and high.
Question: isn't it easier to begin with tatw-matw nt instead of matw-matw nt because when you do tatw-matw nt you can faster around the ball?Succes!

nah it depends with in style it's better to go for matw matw nt and with out style it's the inverse ^^ it's just my opinion
I do matw faster and higher coz I have in style
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Leha on Feb 18, 2009, 11:21: PM
even easyer than co-matw nt is aj-matw nt, well i did that 1 first.
doing so many extra stages for getting tatw/matw-matw nt is silly I think...
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: BigMac on Feb 19, 2009, 02:55: AM
even easyer than co-matw nt is aj-matw nt, well i did that 1 first.
doing so many extra stages for getting tatw/matw-matw nt is silly I think...

its not, it helps. He says he can't do it and he wants help. You want him to keep trying and failing, i would say he would learn matw matw nt quicker if he learnt cross matw nt.

Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Leha on Feb 19, 2009, 02:57: AM
even easyer than co-matw nt is aj-matw nt, well i did that 1 first.
doing so many extra stages for getting tatw/matw-matw nt is silly I think...

its not, it helps. He says he can't do it and he wants help. You want him to keep trying and failing, i would say he would learn matw matw nt quicker if he learnt cross matw nt.



I learnt all nts not from crosses or airejesters, I think it didn't take soooo much time to me
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Magnus on Feb 19, 2009, 05:12: AM
even easyer than co-matw nt is aj-matw nt, well i did that 1 first.
doing so many extra stages for getting tatw/matw-matw nt is silly I think...

its not, it helps. He says he can't do it and he wants help. You want him to keep trying and failing, i would say he would learn matw matw nt quicker if he learnt cross matw nt.



I learnt all nts not from crosses or airejesters, I think it didn't take soooo much time to me

Yeah maybe you did, and thats good.. But you probaby didn't asked for help, like this guy did! Then we'll have to help him as much as possible, and in my opinion saying: "Just practise tatw-matw(nt)", is not a very good tip.

No offense=)
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: BevS on Feb 19, 2009, 08:59: AM
matw(nt) tricks are like my favorite moves atm, i do squillions of them... and i started by doing cross-atw(nt) and then moving on to cross-matw(nt)... get super consistant at cross-matw(nt) and then tatw-matw(nt) should be no problem :)
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: jammy on Feb 19, 2009, 09:43: AM
start with Cross matw nt! :3some:
yh or cross amatw  thats wat i did
good luck :thumbsup:
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Mikael on Feb 19, 2009, 11:04: AM
Dude, what's your MSN?
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: imagestyles on Feb 19, 2009, 01:44: PM
matw(nt) tricks are like my favorite moves atm, i do squillions of them... and i started by doing cross-atw(nt) and then moving on to cross-matw(nt)... get super consistent at cross-matw(nt) and then tatw-matw(nt) should be no problem :)

Thanks BevS. Your Matw (nt)'s are crazy!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: imagestyles on Feb 19, 2009, 01:47: PM
Dude, what's your MSN?

Who was that to?
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: BevS on Feb 19, 2009, 06:30: PM
matw(nt) tricks are like my favorite moves atm, i do squillions of them... and i started by doing cross-atw(nt) and then moving on to cross-matw(nt)... get super consistent at cross-matw(nt) and then tatw-matw(nt) should be no problem :)

Thanks BevS. Your Matw (nt)'s are crazy!  :thumbsup:

thanks man, np ;)
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: Mikael on Feb 19, 2009, 08:38: PM
Dude, what's your MSN?

Who was that to?

You!
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: stefanfreestylez on Feb 20, 2009, 07:15: AM
i think it's mostly about about touch but speed is also important just get the right timing with the right touch and u will get it  :biggrin:
Title: Re: nt Combos
Post by: imagestyles on Feb 20, 2009, 02:58: PM
Dude, what's your MSN?

Who was that to?

You!


Imagefreestyle@hotmail.com. I just made it last week.  :biggrin: