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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Freestyle Chat => Topic started by: Macca on Dec 29, 2008, 12:22: AM

Title: Natural Ability?
Post by: Macca on Dec 29, 2008, 12:22: AM
In another thread we got into a debate whether there is such thing as natural ability for freestylers

My arguement was that some people are naturally more skilled than others, and are able to learn faster... Others, however, disagree and say that a freestyler's ability only relies on their training...

Thoughts???
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Conspiracy- on Dec 29, 2008, 12:28: AM
In another thread we got into a debate whether there is such thing as natural ability for freestylers

My arguement was that some people are naturally more skilled than others, and are able to learn faster... Others, however, disagree and say that a freestyler's ability only relies on their training...

Thoughts???

There's definitely natural ability. In any kind of activity some people can learn faster and look very comfortable and natural in it without as much practice as others. In freestyle it could be those people that have been fs'ing for a few months and have a really good style and decent amount of tricks and combos.
but they still need to practice to get better if they don't than the ones who do train hard can pass them.
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Macca on Dec 29, 2008, 12:37: AM
yes exactly what i think... of course training is the only way to improve... but the extent of the improvement relies upon the natural ability =)

(aswel as how much and how you train obviously)
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: L_I_S on Dec 29, 2008, 12:49: AM
i still say that natural ability can only take u so far. like u can have a good concentration level and that will help ofcorse. u can be flexible and u that will aid ur freestyling. but idk if that cant be trained or theres gotta be a way 2 aquire those types of skills.
the only way u learn faster is if u concentrate harder, train smarter, right nutrients and all that crap, theres heaps of variables.
but id say were all pretty much on the same level other than those things above.

btw, wat do u mean by natural ability, just learn faster or is there other skills?
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Azun on Dec 29, 2008, 02:06: AM
offcourse its different... but most can learn anything they put their mind to if they work hard enough for it...

if you are lazy, you wont learn anything, even whit natural ability... its not in our nature to kick the leg fast around a ball.
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Cogliono Grande on Dec 29, 2008, 02:25: AM
I think Azun said it pretty good. Practice is most important, talent (or learning things quicker) are a supplement. It's like that in almost everything.
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Andy on Dec 29, 2008, 02:49: AM
I think its how you train more than how much you train,

Lets say your training tatw, if you do a high atw like me then your style could look worse than someone who has a low atw.

But of course someone is going to get better if you train alot more but its what you do while you are training and not just messing about with easy tricks.

Natural ability? Maybe, but your still need to train as much as someone who hasn't got "natural ability"
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: BigMac on Dec 29, 2008, 03:05: AM
Maybe but the people who train hard get good results, tom folan, azun, john farnworth, jeon kwon and many more!
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: redsforlife on Dec 29, 2008, 04:44: AM
natural ability has alot to do with any sport. its just like when yall played football there were people who were fast runners and slow runners. not everybody is going to be able to run fast alot of that is natural. in freestyle i think that in many cases natural ability won't hold you back much, but it could lead to the type of freestyler you may become. for example dan magness doesn't look to be the quickest or most limber person in the world, but since he was serious about freestyle and practiced he became one of the world's best uppers freestylers. i'm sure there are many guys on here who could slaughter dan at lowers, but they are not overall as good of freestylers. than people like fx, palle, and others are naturally more limber and quick than others, so they picked up lowers tricks faster than other people. also the extremely hardcore tricks probably aren't possible for everybody to learn.
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Gustav on Dec 29, 2008, 04:57: AM
Sure, talent is not a bad thing to have,

If you look at top level footboll players they all have been training very hard during there life.. very often ppl say that 20 year old guys ar talents, but they have been playing football every day in 15 years so it's not sure they was a talent from the beggining

You can also have another sort of talent , in my eyes that is that you practise a lot. For me that's also a talent ...

Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Azun on Dec 29, 2008, 05:37: AM
Sure, talent is not a bad thing to have,

If you look at top level footboll players they all have been training very hard during there life.. very often ppl say that 20 year old guys ar talents, but they have been playing football every day in 15 years so it's not sure they was a talent from the beggining

You can also have another sort of talent , in my eyes that is that you practise a lot. For me that's also a talent ...



 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Cogliono Grande on Dec 29, 2008, 06:15: AM
It hangs togheter i think. Those who have talent plays alot cause they make progress and it's fun for them (because they've got talent). Quitters never win and winners never quit. You see? If you got talent, you're probably going to practice alot.
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
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Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Jonathonhehu on Dec 29, 2008, 12:22: PM

you arent just naturally good at freestyle....... unless ur billy wingrove
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Ricky on Dec 29, 2008, 01:33: PM
Men!! in the University,i did a project about natural abilities for any sport,, and the result of my investigation was
that all the abilities are not naturals, you get them only with training, first than anything, you should learn very well to juggle the ball, this is
the base for freestyle (everybody can learn to juggle the ball with a great ability..obviously with a lot of  training)once that those who already know very well to juggle the ball,  he could be  Skora or Palle, of course not with the same style, for me the ability depends on training.
This is my point of view about ability.

Happy new year everybody :cheers:
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Jono on Dec 29, 2008, 08:00: PM
Definatly natural ability plays a large role in freestyle. This includes genetics, which can mean how tall you are, body type etc. Some people can freestyle better because of certain hereditary factors. Some people learn faster than others, while others have to train alot harder.
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Sander on Dec 29, 2008, 09:30: PM
it's all about how good you can motivate yourself to go out practising over and over again. the persons with the strongest will, are the ones that practise most and efficient and will be the best freestylers
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Jonathonhehu on Dec 30, 2008, 01:18: AM
yes true a midget will find it very difficult to do atw
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: Ethan on Jan 01, 2009, 07:15: PM
In another thread we got into a debate whether there is such thing as natural ability for freestylers

My arguement was that some people are naturally more skilled than others, and are able to learn faster... Others, however, disagree and say that a freestyler's ability only relies on their training...

Thoughts???
i think it is all about the first few months, how your style and teqnique is then determies how gooder freestyle u will become, thats just my personal opinion
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: anhkhoashevakt on Jan 08, 2009, 10:49: AM
There's definitely natural abilities for every sport and everything there is. That's the way of life to create differences in the organisms such as us because it's the base of evolution. If you can do something better that suits the environment you're gonna survive. That proplem is not so much in today's world because people have ethics now, and people don't try to eliminate each other. But the thing is natural abilities remains. Sombody will have the ability to improve way faster than others at something. Freestyle is an example. I practice for 2 years with about 1 hour each day, and some guy back at my country only practice for 1 year with an unfixed schedule and he beats me to the ground when it comes to freestyle tricks.
Title: Re: Natural Ability?
Post by: jammy on Jan 12, 2009, 04:30: AM
i myself say that it is that half and half
50% natural 50% training but also it depends on how hard you train was you get goin
in freestyle :cheers: