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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Freestyle Chat => Topic started by: Philippe on Dec 17, 2007, 04:58: AM
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Beto: feature=channel_page
Gramos:
Mike Hammar:
Frejd:
Lindroth:
Sjödin:
Jimmy:
JiggyJJason:
Benbow:
Mitch:
Jan:
Nelson de Kok:
Caza:
MxP23:
Sagami:
Martjin Lemmens:
Hirokazu:
I hope that all links work...
just a few to be mentioned...
more coming soon...
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Those are some really nice videos.. and I aswell, ask the same question... What happend to them?
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Hmm, together with the rest of you, I wonder what happened to them? I guess some of them have quitted freestyle, but some of them haven't quitted:
Jimmy, he does still freestyle, and are actually planning to make a new vid atm, as he just asked for combos on NAS and gave us some info about the vid.
Beto, I dunno, I've heard hes more into skateboarding, but what do I know? I don't really think he has quitted, just that he doesn't make anymore videos.
But honestly, I kinda gree, haven't heard anything from them for a long while ..
Hope they're still at least a little bit into freestyle tho ;)
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Any news of the injured freestyler ?, I thought is was mxp,no ??
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I can't imagine Nelson have quit, and it doesn't seems like that.
http://nelsondekok.com/site/en/index.htm - he have demos later this month.
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mxp23 is in da army man.
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I just saw Benbows movie and damn he was actually good, I'm surprised
I never even knew he freestyled!
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Wow, ive been looking for Mitch's videos everywhere thanx for the post Phillip :).
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nobody ever will come with a style like mitch !! .. its just so perfect, too bad he stopped fs :-[
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Hey btw does anybody know what to Jay Ransom and the other "The 10" member, the guy whis was/is a good upper body freestyler ?
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one more missing freestyler:
Donnysco a member of "The 10 Freestyle Soccer Team".
check this out: http://www.the10soccer.com/en/freestyle/donny.html
then click on the video button ;)
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Maybe we can make a list to tell what happened to them:
MxP23: he is in the army
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Good news:
I made a text comment under Mitch´s video and aksed him if he is still freestyling or if he has quit freestyle.
Than he wrote back:
"hi m8 yeah i did for a bit but im back into it again a bit but am also concentrating on football more but i will make another vid, cheers 4 comment btw"
this is great, isn´t it?
The Legend Is Back
YEAAAAH
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Yeah, that sounds great dude! :birthday:
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I'm also wondering what happened to Caza and Martijn Lemmens, they used to be 2 of the best dutch fs-ers (btw, it's martIJn and not martJIn) I know he typed it wrong with his vid but the first one is a normal dutch name and the second isn't
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and Bane.
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and Bane.
who´s bane?
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He's the master of in-out atw's :
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wow he´s very good :thumbsup:
I noticed another "missing" freestyler:
Djurko:
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Would anyone happend to know the name of the song? It's kind groovy
:booty:
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And let's not forget good old Kantcho
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here is a new list with some explanations:
Beto: www.youtube.com/v/HHjcTtfjxrs&rel=1
Gramos:
Mike Hammar:
Frejd:
Lindroth:
Sjödin:
Jimmy:
JiggyJJason:
Benbow:
Mitch:
he stoped freestyling for a long time but he said that he´s back into freestyle again and is going to make some new videos
Jan: he is back into freestyle as you can see in his latest videos
Nelson de Kok:
Caza:
MxP23: he is in the army now
Sagami:
Martjin Lemmens:
Hirokazu:
Donnysco: http://www.the10soccer.com/en/freestyle/donny.html
Bane:
Djurko:
Kantcho:
Nix:
John Clark: John Clark said he´s still freestyling from time to time but not as often as some years ago and not so good like that time,
he is just more focusing on football
Pego:
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wheres nix and pego? :-[
also i miss kamalio he was the bomb a few years ago
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dude,what happened to john clark? :dontknow:
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dude,what happened to john clark? :dontknow:
he stoped freestyling for a long time but he said that he´s back into freestyle again and is going to make some new videos
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MxP23:
I'm still here ;) Just been unable to make any new videos or practice much coz I'm currently in the army, but soon, very soon... ;)
Hirokazu:
Don't know why you put him in here, I see new stuff from him every few weeks or so on YouTube... :dontknow:
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And about the other Cro freestylers:
Bane - stopped freestyling, I think because of football and probably lack of motivation... but he still thinks he's the best in Croatia :lol:
Djurko - same as Bane (they even played in the same team), he said he was gonna make a new vid this summer, but that never happened...
Nix - he's taking a break from freestyle a bit, told me he's gonna start again in the summer
Pego - doesn't have much time for practice coz of football and school
Final result:
Bane & Djurko - stopped
Nix & Pego - still here
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mitch might be coming back? class! :D
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Hirokazu:
Don't know why you put him in here, I see new stuff from him every few weeks or so on YouTube... :dontknow:
Yeah you´re right, haven´t seen the new stuff yet that´s why I thought he might could have stopped. :angel:
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i have an old ssd compilation on my comp where are many freestylers in who i havent seen any vids of them anymore...... i searched for the vid on youtube to post the link here but i could not find it. in this video are freestylers like john clarke benbow and others who are mentioned in this topic. but there is also a freestyler named Pedro from france and he did tatw left tatw ricght in this vid and its quite old.... i would like to know if anybody knows this guy.
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John Clarke ftw. new 2pac O0
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Any sign of mattelinder??, he hasnt made a new vid in agezzzzzzz :o
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Any sign of mattelinder??, he hasnt made a new vid in agezzzzzzz :o
Don't worry, he's alive and kicking
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Any sign of mattelinder??, he hasnt made a new vid in agezzzzzzz :o
any sign of Bane? the croatian.
any sign of sagami?
any sign of lindroth?
any sign of mouloud?
any sign of Beto?
any sign of Tipsy?
any sign of Kantcho?
any sign of Emil (doskov)?
any sign of lizhao?
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Mouloud is alive, he made a video not that long ago
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Mouloud is alive, he made a video not that long ago
oh really? i haven't seen many new vidz of him. link?
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Mouloud is alive, he made a video not that long ago
oh really? i haven't seen many new vidz of him. link?
here you go:
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Mouloud is alive, he made a video not that long ago
oh really? i haven't seen many new vidz of him. link?
here you go:
thnx
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again a new list with new explanations:
Beto: www.youtube.com/v/HHjcTtfjxrs&rel=1
Gramos:
Mike Hammar:
Frejd:
Lindroth:
Sjödin:
Jimmy:
JiggyJJason:
Benbow:
Mitch:
he stoped freestyling for a long time but he said that he´s back into freestyle again and is going to make some new videos
Jan: he is back into freestyle as you can see in his latest videos
Nelson de Kok:
Caza:
MxP23: he is in the army now
Sagami:
Martjin Lemmens:
Donnysco: http://www.the10soccer.com/en/freestyle/donny.html
Bane: he stopped freestyling probably because of school and lack of motivation
Djurko: he stopped freestyling as the same reasons as Bane (I think)
Kantcho:
Nix: he´s taking a break and is going to start again in sommer 2008
John Clark: John Clark said he´s still freestyling from time to time but not as often as some years ago and not so good like that time,
he is just more focusing on football
Pego: he doesn´t has time for practicing because of football and school
Tipsy: locale=en_US&persist_locale=1
Lizhao:
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wow u did ur homework
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maybe someone know whats happened to ,Farman , Jimmy nas , linder play air? , beto , lindroth play sd? or quit
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jimmy still freestyles this is a vid of him 6 month ago with jf, i knew he got an injury, but his account was active 2 hours ago
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jimmy still freestyles this is a vid of him 6 month ago with jf, i knew he got an injury, but his account was active 2 hours ago
He can still go on youtube even if he doesnt fs anymore :lol:
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maybe someone know whats happened to ,Farman , Jimmy nas , linder play air? , beto , lindroth play sd? or quit
Farman is playing
Jimmy nas is playing (said he is making a new video)
I don't know if Linder practice air but when I ask him to do a no touch combo for me he did tatw atatw nt - juggles - tatw amatw nt first try no warm up
Beto play but has no camera
Lindroth says he doesn't play but I am almost 100% sure he does
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maybe someone know whats happened to ,Farman , Jimmy nas , linder play air? , beto , lindroth play sd? or quit
Farman is playing
Jimmy nas is playing (said he is making a new video)
I don't know if Linder practice air but when I ask him to do a no touch combo for me he did tatw atatw nt - juggles - tatw amatw nt first try no warm up
Beto play but has no camera
Lindroth says he doesn't play but I am almost 100% sure he does
just wondering what makes you almost sure that he still freestyles?
i hope he does still freestyle!
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maybe someone know whats happened to ,Farman , Jimmy nas , linder play air? , beto , lindroth play sd? or quit
Farman is playing
Jimmy nas is playing (said he is making a new video)
I don't know if Linder practice air but when I ask him to do a no touch combo for me he did tatw atatw nt - juggles - tatw amatw nt first try no warm up
Beto play but has no camera
Lindroth says he doesn't play but I am almost 100% sure he does
just wondering what makes you almost sure that he still freestyles?
i hope he does still freestyle!
allegedly he quit way before gothia last year yet when he came there he was better than ever and did 30 atws weak foot
if he quit long before that the muscles would've became weaker.. it's impossible that he quit.
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maybe someone know whats happened to ,Farman , Jimmy nas , linder play air? , beto , lindroth play sd? or quit
Farman is playing
Jimmy nas is playing (said he is making a new video)
I don't know if Linder practice air but when I ask him to do a no touch combo for me he did tatw atatw nt - juggles - tatw amatw nt first try no warm up
Beto play but has no camera
Lindroth says he doesn't play but I am almost 100% sure he does
just wondering what makes you almost sure that he still freestyles?
i hope he does still freestyle!
allegedly he quit way before gothia last year yet when he came there he was better than ever and did 30 atws weak foot
if he quit long before that the muscles would've became weaker.. it's impossible that he quit.
thanks oli
from what you told me it does sound like he still freestyle
and 30 atws weak foot that is classs!
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maybe someone know whats happened to ,Farman , Jimmy nas , linder play air? , beto , lindroth play sd? or quit
Farman is playing
Jimmy nas is playing (said he is making a new video)
I don't know if Linder practice air but when I ask him to do a no touch combo for me he did tatw atatw nt - juggles - tatw amatw nt first try no warm up
Beto play but has no camera
Lindroth says he doesn't play but I am almost 100% sure he does
just wondering what makes you almost sure that he still freestyles?
i hope he does still freestyle!
allegedly he quit way before gothia last year yet when he came there he was better than ever and did 30 atws weak foot
if he quit long before that the muscles would've became weaker.. it's impossible that he quit.
thanks oli
from what you told me it does sound like he still freestyle
and 30 atws weak foot that is classs!
i believe that he isnt just as active as he once was and he doesnt car for making new videos
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maybe someone know whats happened to ,Farman , Jimmy nas , linder play air? , beto , lindroth play sd? or quit
Farman is playing
Jimmy nas is playing (said he is making a new video)
I don't know if Linder practice air but when I ask him to do a no touch combo for me he did tatw atatw nt - juggles - tatw amatw nt first try no warm up
Beto play but has no camera
Lindroth says he doesn't play but I am almost 100% sure he does
just wondering what makes you almost sure that he still freestyles?
i hope he does still freestyle!
allegedly he quit way before gothia last year yet when he came there he was better than ever and did 30 atws weak foot
if he quit long before that the muscles would've became weaker.. it's impossible that he quit.
thanks oli
from what you told me it does sound like he still freestyle
and 30 atws weak foot that is classs!
i believe that he isnt just as active as he once was and he doesnt car for making new videos
what a fuck :saywhat:
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gramos has pretty much stopped freestyling... i caught up with him the other day, he can still do basic stuff, combos such as atw-atw-atw-cross-atw-atw-atw... and his sitdowns are still pretty awesome... but he never really practices anymore
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awwwwwwwwww this os making me sad
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DEAD MAYBE
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caza made new video 2 months ago
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hirokazu is the worlds best freestyler and nobody can say anything against that!!
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hirokazu is the worlds best freestyler and nobody can say anything against that!!
i can...i wanna see him beating...hmmm. Nam The Man :P
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and that guy Dore , whats with him ?
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hirokazu is the worlds best freestyler and nobody can say anything against that!!
whats the point making an opinionated comment like that, and in this section about fsers who we havnt heard much about for ages.
hmm..i heard lindroth practiced for a week b4 he went to gothia so that is maybe why.
can anyone rem. that really old crazy drunk irish video?.... i think it was a st. patrick special, but i cant rem..
and does noone know what happened to lemmins
and "legend"
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hirokazu is the worlds best freestyler and nobody can say anything against that!!
whats the point making an opinionated comment like that, and in this section about fsers who we havnt heard much about for ages.
i was just thinking that... what a random post :dontknow:
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Lindroth said to me last year that he doesn't practice freestyle anymore, he thinks it's boring and he likes more doing somrthing with friends and so on
and Sjödin said to me some weeks ago that he is still freestyling and he will make a new vid soon
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cool sjodin just cudnt keep away :)
dani p is another one for the list!!
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hirokazu is the worlds best freestyler and nobody can say anything against that!!
whats the point making an opinionated comment like that, and in this section about fsers who we havnt heard much about for ages.
hmm..i heard lindroth practiced for a week b4 he went to gothia so that is maybe why.
can anyone rem. that really old crazy drunk irish video?.... i think it was a st. patrick special, but i cant rem..
and does noone know what happened to lemmins
and "legend"
legend is around he did a video from his live performance at dubai not long ago
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ok what about:
murilo, dave trickstar, josh, ecuabol, dani p, 2ruler, golo
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murilo does videos on rare occasions
other ones seem gone. Especially dani p
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JIggy quit.
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Im pretty sure that ecuabols still doing it cos he recently said that he can do over 12 latws in a combo which means his improved a lot since his last vid so he must still be doing it.
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Beto quit, that's what a friend of mine who lives close to Beto told me.
Or at least don't expect a new video from him.
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Beto quit, that's what a friend of mine who lives close to Beto told me.
Or at least don't expect a new video from him.
he told me he still freestyles but cant make videos because he has no camera
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does mike hammar still practice air,his style is pretty neat!
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i spoke to danny p he said hes still fsin
hope its true
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i spoke to danny p he said hes still fsin
hope its true
well thats good news for once :)
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does mike hammar still practice air,his style is pretty neat!
I meet him a couple of months ago he did air at that point
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archie from liverpool (the ginger kid)
miller the scouser (that aussie kid)
david the guy who always fsed barefoot (brasilian kid who was in nas comp 4 or 5 i cant rem.)
super syed and kamalio (the south african kids, i know they fs now and then or used to but they were kings)
ray (the dutch kid who was in nas)
krull (the hot swede kid friends with mattelinder)
kamal (that american man)
dave trickstar and the other black dude who lived in some random place who was daves competition
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What about Senad?
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archie from liverpool (the ginger kid)
miller the scouser (that aussie kid)
david the guy who always fsed barefoot (brasilian kid who was in nas comp 4 or 5 i cant rem.)
super syed and kamalio (the south african kids, i know they fs now and then or used to but they were kings)
ray (the dutch kid who was in nas)
krull (the hot swede kid friends with mattelinder)
kamal (that american man)
dave trickstar and the other black dude who lived in some random place who was daves competition
Krull quit because he plays World of Warcraft. :biggrin:
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haha actually i rem. mattelinder telling me that!
that and he rapes krull
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What about Senad?
nobody in germany knows really if Senad quit or not
but Senad won some weeks ago a cup in boxing and we think he is only boxing now at the moment :boxing:
he had some months ago an injury but then he started again with fs and this was in february i think but since then nobody heard anything of him :dontknow:
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ok what about:
murilo, dave trickstar, josh, ecuabol, dani p, 2ruler, golo
Well.. not dead yet :pimp:
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ok what about:
murilo, dave trickstar, josh, ecuabol, dani p, 2ruler, golo
ecuabol still freestyles, apparently he bro ke his latw record of 9, he says he landed 12
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whoah, 12 latws! nice. Freestylers shouldn't quit. we still have lots of moves to invent. :rockit:
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Nelson does a lot of lp's and events at the moment... he's recording the new dvd of Rule of the Street (part 3) this week
Caza last vid was like 3 month's ago, so he is still active in fs
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Nelson does a lot of lp's and events at the moment... he's recording the new dvd of Rule of the Street (part 3) this week
Caza last vid was like 3 month's ago, so he is still active in fs
what did u think of part 2? cos ive got it but im not sure
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Nelson does a lot of lp's and events at the moment... he's recording the new dvd of Rule of the Street (part 3) this week
Caza last vid was like 3 month's ago, so he is still active in fs
what did u think of part 2? cos ive got it but im not sure
from rule of the street? its class :biggrin:
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Nelson does a lot of lp's and events at the moment... he's recording the new dvd of Rule of the Street (part 3) this week
Caza last vid was like 3 month's ago, so he is still active in fs
what did u think of part 2? cos ive got it but im not sure
from rule of the street? its class :biggrin:
yerr, i bought it too, its real good the moves and stuff but just 30mins long and only music, no talking so maybe nice if they put interviews or some tlakiing in
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Nelson does a lot of lp's and events at the moment... he's recording the new dvd of Rule of the Street (part 3) this week
Caza last vid was like 3 month's ago, so he is still active in fs
what did u think of part 2? cos ive got it but im not sure
from rule of the street? its class :biggrin:
yerr, i bought it too, its real good the moves and stuff but just 30mins long and only music, no talking so maybe nice if they put interviews or some tlakiing in
yeh true, i will suggest it if that possible
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What about Senad?
nobody in germany knows really if Senad quit or not
but Senad won some weeks ago a cup in boxing and we think he is only boxing now at the moment :boxing:
he had some months ago an injury but then he started again with fs and this was in february i think but since then nobody heard anything of him :dontknow:
quit!
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What about Senad?
nobody in germany knows really if Senad quit or not
but Senad won some weeks ago a cup in boxing and we think he is only boxing now at the moment :boxing:
he had some months ago an injury but then he started again with fs and this was in february i think but since then nobody heard anything of him :dontknow:
quit!
no way, he did some sick upper move in that vid with phillippe.
sick i tellya
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What about Senad?
nobody in germany knows really if Senad quit or not
but Senad won some weeks ago a cup in boxing and we think he is only boxing now at the moment :boxing:
he had some months ago an injury but then he started again with fs and this was in february i think but since then nobody heard anything of him :dontknow:
quit!
no way, he did some sick upper move in that vid with phillippe.
sick i tellya
i know but i talked to him some weeks ago and he says hes too busy with boxing to continue with freestyle. sad but true senad isnt into fs anymore.
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what about that rody guy, think he was brazilian or something? he was in some master of combination vid i think and was pretty good if not my mind play tricks on me. Maybe someone already have mention him, then just ignore this post :cheers:
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mm that name rings a bell but i cant put a face to it, the only brasilian i can think of was that guy who never wore shoes and only ever showed his feet, pos. called david?:S
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yeah i remember rody too.... he was pretty good. but what happened to tatsuya? he was a machine.
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what happened to paryz from poland..... isnt he a friend of you salas? i love his style.
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what happened to paryz from poland..... isnt he a friend of you salas? i love his style.
i am playing but 1 training for whole week sometimes 1 training for month (c) Paris
He is my friend but now he is PRO RUBIK'S SOLVER (speedcuber) xDDDDD o_O one of the best speedcuber in poland... ble ble ble... :nopity: :boxing:
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what happened to paryz from poland..... isnt he a friend of you salas? i love his style.
i am playing but 1 training for whole week sometimes 1 training for month (c) Paris
He is my friend but now he is PRO RUBIK'S SOLVER (speedcuber) xDDDDD o_O one of the best speedcuber in poland... ble ble ble... :nopity: :boxing:
hopefully he has the same smooth style as in freestyle.
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i was also wondering what happened to paris
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i was also wondering what happened to paris
http://pl.youtube.com/profile?user=zielaczek&view=videos you can watch he's videos here ;) RUBIK'S and some freestyle clips i think ;)
my english sux...
We were training 2 years together regullary, 3rd year he found the girlfriend... and stopped freestyle -.- so i dont have any freestyler who can train with me... I'm playing with JAMRO -.- tecktonik boy %) he loves dancing :D we have a lot of fun when we are playing together.. but we can play hmm twice a month o_O he is a footballer you know everyday training ble ble o_O :(
SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH... O_________o
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omg he really loves his rubiks cube haha :3some:
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he loves his rubiks and his girlfriend :( i lost my friend :( now we only playing together BILLARD :nopity:
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Jan? Jan Krepl from the Czech rep?
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jimmy still freestyles he just hasent made anyvids yet in fact am meeting him on wednesday with oli gman and gorey soo should be good
:thumbsup:
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wat happend 2 TG? havnt seen a new vid from him in ages? did he loose his camera or go 2 uni or something? i doubt he quit...
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what happened to this freestyler named Kamal Sekhri? anybody remember him? he was amazing, had such smooth style.
also this guy from croatia, bane
he was pretty good 2 years ago
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Those are some really nice videos.. and I aswell, ask the same question... What happend to them?
yeah oLi, i agree with you
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what happened to this freestyler named Kamal Sekhri? anybody remember him? he was amazing, had such smooth style.
also this guy from croatia, bane
he was pretty good 2 years ago
well, kamal sekhri....HE used to upload to Expert Football I think. He ws a good fs'er with good style. I found a page on EF which tells you what happened, but EF is down ATM so yeah...will post here later.
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what happened to dore? he was sick in december 2006. just watched his old video.
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What ever happened to Homie ? I think his name was Erik Homan .., not sure ..,
:pimp:
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Samuele Campitiello ? :dontknow:
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emanuele pesaresi???
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jimmy :(
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emanuele pesaresi???
and TG???
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kozak and pablo from poland?
johan dahlbäck?
Frankystyle?
Muszka? i like his stye alot
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He's the master of in-out atw's :
yer hes awsome i think this vid was made in 05?
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kozak and pablo from poland?
johan dahlbäck?
Frankystyle?
Muszka? i like his stye alot
He quit freestyle ;/
Dore?
Muroi?
Kamal?
:pimp:
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Muszka? i like his stye alot
Muszka is my best friend :P He still practise! ...once in month :bang: that's sad, he became fcking lazy and live just for his girlfriend ;| love destroy freestyle :down:
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Muszka? i like his stye alot
Muszka is my best friend :P He still practise! ...once in month :bang: that's sad, he became fcking lazy and live just for his girlfriend ;| love destroy freestyle :down:
What about Anna ? :o
:pimp:
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Muszka? i like his stye alot
Muszka is my best friend :P He still practise! ...once in month :bang: that's sad, he became fcking lazy and live just for his girlfriend ;| love destroy freestyle :down:
What about Anna ? :o
:pimp:
Who is Anna? :saywhat:
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Oh, maybe I'm mistakin' , your girl ? Or .., wtf .
:pimp:
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Haha no no no :P my last girl was Aga ;)
Now I'm with Paulina, check on facebook ;p
And what's about swedish freestyler Tobbe?
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Muszka? i like his stye alot
Muszka is my best friend :P He still practise! ...once in month :bang: that's sad, he became fcking lazy and live just for his girlfriend ;| love destroy freestyle :down:
i really hope its because he prefer to hang with her rather then practice. and not that she is bitching him around hehe...
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Muszka? i like his stye alot
Muszka is my best friend :P He still practise! ...once in month :bang: that's sad, he became fcking lazy and live just for his girlfriend ;| love destroy freestyle :down:
i really hope its because he prefer to hang with her rather then practice. and not that she is bitching him around hehe...
Sometime I thought she isn't.. now I really don't know :dontknow: That's really strange ;p
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Haha no no no :P my last girl was Aga ;)
Now I'm with Paulina, check on facebook ;p
And what's about swedish freestyler Tobbe?
Oooooh Szymek the pimp ;)
Tobbe, I think he is still freestyling, but not practicing, only doing LPs and stuff , but I might be wrong.
:pimp:
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hahaha just my second girfriend in my life :biggrin:
Where's Misterio?
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Martin Ellevold ? (Martadona on YT) :dontknow:
he had some cool taatw combo's, i alway's wathed his vids when i was starting fs!
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Martin Ellevold ? (Martadona on YT) :dontknow:
he had some cool taatw combo's, i alway's wathed his vids when i was starting fs!
he quited :cursing: ooooh, that bastard! :angry:
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I know, really sad. He could do 3 taatw nt in 2007 as a 13 year old! He's a really great guy aswell.
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yea
too bad
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Spoke to Jimmy on the buzzer the other week, Hes officially quit.
Is it a bird, is it a plane, no its jimmy doing a katatw
What happend to Reece 80? that dude was a ledge, wasnt he supposed to amsterdamn?
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yeah lol he was talkin about Amsterdam all the time saying he needed to know the dates ASAP to book his flights.. then he fucks off lol!
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Spoke to Jimmy on the buzzer the other week, Hes officially quit.
Is it a bird, is it a plane, no its jimmy doing a katatw
What happend to Reece 80? that dude was a ledge, wasnt he supposed to amsterdamn?
Yeah, i agree! He was a funny and cool guy! At least on MSN and on this forum. We need to get him back!