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General Category => General Chat => Topic started by: Adi on Dec 26, 2008, 06:22: AM
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7q0ox_kanye-west-heartless-pinocchio-stor_music
Tell me how you can't see the greatness in that. He puts it all out there. There's nobody better at performing and entertaining than him. Face it...
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What did he do that was so entertaining
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Adi's hilarious, he didn't post in a while and then when he does it's Kanye!
I swear you're obsessed. :biggrin:
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What did he do that was so entertaining
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So, your telling me that if i do a couple of sliding shuffles and bend down with my hand in the air behind my back, I can be one of the greatest performers ever? Sick! I'll get on it! :rockit:
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James Brown is 10X better then him
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I just hate his music and voice. Everyone have different taste.
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That was one of the worse performances I've ever seen. Thats real talk, no hate I swear.
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WOW man wtf
This song is sooo cool
I started to like Kanye West from it :saywhat:
What's the name of the song?
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James Brown is 10X better then him
only? lol
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The song is heartless i wonder how there can be ppl who hate kanye west !!
His music is soo entertaining and i am a fan of him :cheers:
KANYE WEST IS THE BEST :saywhat:
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I think he's overrated
that's my opinion
It's probably coz I hate all these "new" electronic hip-hop shit or some songs called "black rock" or whatever it's called
I'm not tryin to be racist or anything I just heard someone call music that have rap but with rock background music you know :dontknow:
take it to da 90's yo
Tupac FTW! :pimp:
Even though Heartless is quite a good song, I don't see how that can make him the best rapper or whatever.
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This is a top drawer performance. He's takin his music, performances and style to a whole new level. Thats why a lot of people are now hatin on his, coz people love to put labels and kanye was the rap category. But then he changed directions and stepped outside the rap box and now everyones a bit lost on how to think about it so its easier to hate on things that are new and fresh instead of respectin it for what it is, fuckin quality music. Thats what happened to every artist that was ahead of his time, nothin to be worried about.
I got the new album and its the best album put out in ages. I love the fact that its so raw, in a way that when you're listenin to it you can feel the state of mind/heart the artist was in when he was makin it, like the feeling behind it. Thats fuckin raw. Just like Mozart with Requiem, Kurt Cobain with Somethin in the way, Pac with changes etc
I love his jacket btw, think its pastelle's
Tupac FTW! :pimp:
Even though Heartless is quite a good song, I don't see how that can make him the best rapper or whatever.
Like I said, think outside the box for fucks sake. It's not rap!
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I you were really willing to think outside the box, you'd be listening to prog rock. But four bucks says you're not.
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He's really good, he puts a lot of effort and love into making songs. His lyrics really make sense.
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Its poll time :banana:
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That was one of the worse performances I've ever seen. Thats real talk, no hate I swear.
:lol:
your taste in music is so conservative
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definitely nothing special about this performance. hip-hop acts will never be amongst the greatest acts around. moby said it best with the comment on james brown. he is a real entertainer and musician. you kids need to get off this rap garbage and start listening to different stuff. music has so much more to offer than any rapper or hip-hop artists will ever, so try to discover it.
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last time i checked this album wasn't even rap :lol:
hip hop is a very creative form of music; all you need is your mouth and a creative mind. you need to sway away from the main stream crap that you are exposed to and culture yourself my friend. go listen to the cold vein, come back, tell me "it sucked", so i can laugh at you :lol:
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7q0ox_kanye-west-heartless-pinocchio-stor_music
Tell me how you can't see the greatness in that. He puts it all out there. There's nobody better at performing and entertaining than him. Face it...
A good performer? May be.
A good musician? NO.
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maybe this will tickle your fansy http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=ImrtZRrS70w
i put my speakers loud but i still couldn't hear properly maybe i was deafened by it when my headphone were low
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last time i checked this album wasn't even rap :lol:
hip hop is a very creative form of music; all you need is your mouth and a creative mind. you need to sway away from the main stream crap that you are exposed to and culture yourself my friend. go listen to the cold vein, come back, tell me "it sucked", so i can laugh at you :lol:
you can't seriously be trying to tell me to culture myself in music when you actually defend this genre. if you want cultured try listening to jazz, bluegrass, folk, or anything other than hip-hop bullshit. yes me and mikael both listen to heavy metal(i hate most of what mikael listens to too), but the understanding of what is musically good is much better than this garbage. hip-hop is probably the least creative art form in music for many years. mainly just samples other peoples works and makes random rhymes. please humor me more about how i need to be cultured by listening to more hip-hop.
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last time i checked this album wasn't even rap :lol:
hip hop is a very creative form of music; all you need is your mouth and a creative mind. you need to sway away from the main stream crap that you are exposed to and culture yourself my friend. go listen to the cold vein, come back, tell me "it sucked", so i can laugh at you :lol:
you can't seriously be trying to tell me to culture myself in music when you actually defend this genre. if you want cultured try listening to jazz, bluegrass, folk, or anything other than hip-hop bullshit. yes me and mikael both listen to heavy metal(i hate most of what mikael listens to too), but the understanding of what is musically good is much better than this garbage. hip-hop is probably the least creative art form in music for many years. mainly just samples other peoples works and makes random rhymes. please humor me more about how i need to be cultured by listening to more hip-hop.
Ha-ha, same. Both of my parents have been pro. musicians for over 20 years and they can't stand anything that I listen too but, however, they both agree that hardcore/metal is MUCH harder to produce and play than all that rap/hip-hop junk. :cheers:
I can't understand why someone would say that people who have ABSOLUTELY NO musical education can write better music than the ones who spent years in music schools and are still trying to improve their skills. :) Also, the vocals... That's the main reason I find post-hardcore so good. The variations between screaming/low pitched vocals and extremely high pitched vocals make my days go better.
But whatever, this thread is about Kanye West, not rock, and it's ok to like rap better than rock/metal, but it's wrong to say that it takes more skills.
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I like this song a lot. I like both: the lyrics and performance.
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last time i checked this album wasn't even rap :lol:
hip hop is a very creative form of music; all you need is your mouth and a creative mind. you need to sway away from the main stream crap that you are exposed to and culture yourself my friend. go listen to the cold vein, come back, tell me "it sucked", so i can laugh at you :lol:
you can't seriously be trying to tell me to culture myself in music when you actually defend this genre. if you want cultured try listening to jazz, bluegrass, folk, or anything other than hip-hop bullshit. yes me and mikael both listen to heavy metal(i hate most of what mikael listens to too), but the understanding of what is musically good is much better than this garbage. hip-hop is probably the least creative art form in music for many years. mainly just samples other peoples works and makes random rhymes. please humor me more about how i need to be cultured by listening to more hip-hop.
Ha-ha, same. Both of my parents have been pro. musicians for over 20 years and they can't stand anything that I listen too but, however, they both agree that hardcore/metal is MUCH harder to produce and play than all that rap/hip-hop junk. :cheers:
I can't understand why someone would say that people who have ABSOLUTELY NO musical education can write better music than the ones who spent years in music schools and are still trying to improve their skills. :) Also, the vocals... That's the main reason I find post-hardcore so good. The variations between screaming/low pitched vocals and extremely high pitched vocals make my days go better.
But whatever, this thread is about Kanye West, not rock, and it's ok to like rap better than rock/metal, but it's wrong to say that it takes more skills.
Im not dissagreein with your post, although lyrics written by many rap artists are brilliant. You can't say rappers have an easier job than the musicians of rock. Ask one of your favourite artists to write down a rap, its not as easy as you say.
Most rappers have a very large vocabulary, they are able to put together words amazingly and poetically. It seems youve done your research on your genre of music, maybe you should research on rap to straighten your facts.
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This is a top drawer performance. He's takin his music, performances and style to a whole new level. Thats why a lot of people are now hatin on his, coz people love to put labels and kanye was the rap category. But then he changed directions and stepped outside the rap box and now everyones a bit lost on how to think about it so its easier to hate on things that are new and fresh instead of respectin it for what it is, fuckin quality music. Thats what happened to every artist that was ahead of his time, nothin to be worried about.
I got the new album and its the best album put out in ages. I love the fact that its so raw, in a way that when you're listenin to it you can feel the state of mind/heart the artist was in when he was makin it, like the feeling behind it. Thats fuckin raw. Just like Mozart with Requiem, Kurt Cobain with Somethin in the way, Pac with changes etc
I love his jacket btw, think its pastelle's
Tupac FTW! :pimp:
Even though Heartless is quite a good song, I don't see how that can make him the best rapper or whatever.
Like I said, think outside the box for fucks sake. It's not rap!
So, you're actually trying convincing us to change our likes in genres? I mean, that's like telling a hard rock fan (like Mikael), to start listening to rap.
Sure, Kanye stepped outside the box, but that doesn't mean we have to follow him. If Kanye would step out from a cliff, would you follow him?
Have you guys ever considered people have different taste in music, and that people won't change their likes in musik only because one artist does? Come on, guys. You can do better.
The way I can see it, Kanyes new genre shizzle his doing, it's uncool.
To be honest, I think most artists put their hearts into what they're doing. Just take Katy Perry as an example, didn't you just feel a sudden urge to kiss a girl? (Yes, Golo, a boy will do fine as well).
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last time i checked this album wasn't even rap :lol:
hip hop is a very creative form of music; all you need is your mouth and a creative mind. you need to sway away from the main stream crap that you are exposed to and culture yourself my friend. go listen to the cold vein, come back, tell me "it sucked", so i can laugh at you :lol:
you can't seriously be trying to tell me to culture myself in music when you actually defend this genre. if you want cultured try listening to jazz, bluegrass, folk, or anything other than hip-hop bullshit. yes me and mikael both listen to heavy metal(i hate most of what mikael listens to too), but the understanding of what is musically good is much better than this garbage. hip-hop is probably the least creative art form in music for many years. mainly just samples other peoples works and makes random rhymes. please humor me more about how i need to be cultured by listening to more hip-hop.
Ha-ha, same. Both of my parents have been pro. musicians for over 20 years and they can't stand anything that I listen too but, however, they both agree that hardcore/metal is MUCH harder to produce and play than all that rap/hip-hop junk. :cheers:
I can't understand why someone would say that people who have ABSOLUTELY NO musical education can write better music than the ones who spent years in music schools and are still trying to improve their skills. :) Also, the vocals... That's the main reason I find post-hardcore so good. The variations between screaming/low pitched vocals and extremely high pitched vocals make my days go better.
But whatever, this thread is about Kanye West, not rock, and it's ok to like rap better than rock/metal, but it's wrong to say that it takes more skills.
Im not dissagreein with your post, although lyrics written by many rap artists are brilliant. You can't say rappers have an easier job than the musicians of rock. Ask one of your favourite artists to write down a rap, its not as easy as you say.
Most rappers have a very large vocabulary, they are able to put together words amazingly and poetically. It seems youve done your research on your genre of music, maybe you should research on rap to straighten your facts.
Did I say anything about the lyrics? Don't think so. Lyrics are part of your personal preference. As for me, I like the lyrics in Fugazi and Thursday songs, but I don't listen to them because I don't really like their performance. To say that lyrics are the main part of music is simply wrong because it'll mean that all of the great composers (Beethovan, Tchaikovsky, etc) are nothing compared to rappers.
P.S. You've proven my point. You like rappers as poets, not as musicians. ;)
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We are hip hop/rap fans not kanye haters :thumbsup:
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last time i checked this album wasn't even rap :lol:
hip hop is a very creative form of music; all you need is your mouth and a creative mind. you need to sway away from the main stream crap that you are exposed to and culture yourself my friend. go listen to the cold vein, come back, tell me "it sucked", so i can laugh at you :lol:
According to the Grammys and the American Music Awards and other award shits, he is a rapper. He won best rap album (graduation) which beat Lil Wayne's the carter III, best rap song, best rap/hip-hop artist (even beating Lil Wayne)
I respect Kanye, he's made some sick music. But I hate ppl who say that he's the best rapper. I mean there are better "rappers" nowadays than him.
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last time i checked this album wasn't even rap :lol:
hip hop is a very creative form of music; all you need is your mouth and a creative mind. you need to sway away from the main stream crap that you are exposed to and culture yourself my friend. go listen to the cold vein, come back, tell me "it sucked", so i can laugh at you :lol:
you can't seriously be trying to tell me to culture myself in music when you actually defend this genre. if you want cultured try listening to jazz, bluegrass, folk, or anything other than hip-hop bullshit. yes me and mikael both listen to heavy metal(i hate most of what mikael listens to too), but the understanding of what is musically good is much better than this garbage. hip-hop is probably the least creative art form in music for many years. mainly just samples other peoples works and makes random rhymes. please humor me more about how i need to be cultured by listening to more hip-hop.
Ha-ha, same. Both of my parents have been pro. musicians for over 20 years and they can't stand anything that I listen too but, however, they both agree that hardcore/metal is MUCH harder to produce and play than all that rap/hip-hop junk. :cheers:
I can't understand why someone would say that people who have ABSOLUTELY NO musical education can write better music than the ones who spent years in music schools and are still trying to improve their skills. :) Also, the vocals... That's the main reason I find post-hardcore so good. The variations between screaming/low pitched vocals and extremely high pitched vocals make my days go better.
But whatever, this thread is about Kanye West, not rock, and it's ok to like rap better than rock/metal, but it's wrong to say that it takes more skills.
Im not dissagreein with your post, although lyrics written by many rap artists are brilliant. You can't say rappers have an easier job than the musicians of rock. Ask one of your favourite artists to write down a rap, its not as easy as you say.
Most rappers have a very large vocabulary, they are able to put together words amazingly and poetically. It seems youve done your research on your genre of music, maybe you should research on rap to straighten your facts.
actually i would say most rockn'roll bands could write a rap quite easily. they have to write rhyming lyrics too you know. since when do most rappers have vast vocabularies? last time i checked the most common words in rap are ni$$er, hoe, bitch and fuck. basically rappers look to say the most offensive and degrading things they can think of to make themselves sound hard. also its not a good comparison on the difficulty of asking a rock band to make a rap than a rapper to play a guitar solo. one of these actually takes skill, the other just takes a little patience.
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Too say all hip-hop/rap artists use vocabulary that is degrading and vulgar is really narrow minded. Though many do, not all do and many songs are brilliantly written and actually have meaning.It definitely takes a lot of skill to compose good raps and it definitely takes a lot of skill to produce good rock songs(it just takes use of different skills). You can't say which genre is more difficult or skill demanding because it varies on how good the artist is.
It's all preference. :dontknow:
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last time i checked this album wasn't even rap :lol:
hip hop is a very creative form of music; all you need is your mouth and a creative mind. you need to sway away from the main stream crap that you are exposed to and culture yourself my friend. go listen to the cold vein, come back, tell me "it sucked", so i can laugh at you :lol:
According to the Grammys and the American Music Awards and other award shits, he is a rapper. He won best rap album (graduation) which beat Lil Wayne's the carter III, best rap song, best rap/hip-hop artist (even beating Lil Wayne)
I respect Kanye, he's made some sick music. But I hate ppl who say that he's the best rapper. I mean there are better "rappers" nowadays than him.
He is a rapper, no shit. He made an album that wasn't rap.
since when do most rappers have vast vocabularies? last time i checked the most common words in rap are ni$$er, hoe, bitch and fuck. basically rappers look to say the most offensive and degrading things they can think of to make themselves sound hard.
Well, so much for your argument. That's the most ignorant, stupid, and narrow-minded comment i've seen on the whle of beyondfootball.com/forum
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you can't seriously be trying to tell me to culture myself in music when you actually defend this genre. if you want cultured try listening to jazz, bluegrass, folk, or anything other than hip-hop bullshit. yes me and mikael both listen to heavy metal(i hate most of what mikael listens to too), but the understanding of what is musically good is much better than this garbage. hip-hop is probably the least creative art form in music for many years. mainly just samples other peoples works and makes random rhymes. please humor me more about how i need to be cultured by listening to more hip-hop.
try listening to jazz? I'm from New Orleans; you know, the birthplace of jazz.
That's funny, because I happen to go to school with these guys:
http://mfa.loyno.edu/monkinstitute/about.html
:thumbsup:
don't talk to me about jazz when I listen to some of the world's most talented jazz musicians on a very regular basis, for example
http://www.loyno.edu/news/story/2008/11/10/1643
so, please, my young friend. i'm open to all sorts of music, and i probably know how to appreciate it more than you do.
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since when do most rappers have vast vocabularies? last time i checked the most common words in rap are ni$$er, hoe, bitch and fuck. basically rappers look to say the most offensive and degrading things they can think of to make themselves sound hard.
Well, so much for your argument. That's the most ignorant, stupid, and narrow-minded comment i've seen on the whle of beyondfootball.com/forum
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To those who say HH is easy etc.
(http://www.trueblueliberal.com/wp-content/photos/ignorance.jpg)
And btw I didnt think much of the Kanye performance anyway lol
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last time i checked this album wasn't even rap :lol:
hip hop is a very creative form of music; all you need is your mouth and a creative mind. you need to sway away from the main stream crap that you are exposed to and culture yourself my friend. go listen to the cold vein, come back, tell me "it sucked", so i can laugh at you :lol:
According to the Grammys and the American Music Awards and other award shits, he is a rapper. He won best rap album (graduation) which beat Lil Wayne's the carter III, best rap song, best rap/hip-hop artist (even beating Lil Wayne)
I respect Kanye, he's made some sick music. But I hate ppl who say that he's the best rapper. I mean there are better "rappers" nowadays than him.
He is a rapper, no shit. He made an album that wasn't rap.
since when do most rappers have vast vocabularies? last time i checked the most common words in rap are ni$$er, hoe, bitch and fuck. basically rappers look to say the most offensive and degrading things they can think of to make themselves sound hard.
Well, so much for your argument. That's the most ignorant, stupid, and narrow-minded comment i've seen on the whle of beyondfootball.com/forum
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you can't seriously be trying to tell me to culture myself in music when you actually defend this genre. if you want cultured try listening to jazz, bluegrass, folk, or anything other than hip-hop bullshit. yes me and mikael both listen to heavy metal(i hate most of what mikael listens to too), but the understanding of what is musically good is much better than this garbage. hip-hop is probably the least creative art form in music for many years. mainly just samples other peoples works and makes random rhymes. please humor me more about how i need to be cultured by listening to more hip-hop.
try listening to jazz? I'm from New Orleans; you know, the birthplace of jazz.
That's funny, because I happen to go to school with these guys:
http://mfa.loyno.edu/monkinstitute/about.html
:thumbsup:
don't talk to me about jazz when I listen to some of the world's most talented jazz musicians on a very regular basis, for example
http://www.loyno.edu/news/story/2008/11/10/1643
so, please, my young friend. i'm open to all sorts of music, and i probably know how to appreciate it more than you do.
kid your retarded, but i can see there is no point arguing since you will never give up. one of the major key words that i used in my statements against rap music in general is most. if you disagree that 90% of all hip-hop and rap just curse and degrade people you definitely have your head up your ass when you are listening to it. there are examples of where even i think that rap/hip-hop is good, but its just very rare since what is normally popular amongst the genre is the garbage. Some good rap artists are the roots, miles davis's doo bop album(he randomly did a hip-hop album), and many of the stuff in the early 80s which were mainly just dance tracks that needed some sort of vocalization over them. i'll even admit that kanye is closer to the good end of the hip-hop scene, but his music is rather bland when compared to other genres and also he is part of the 10% is doesn't write only filth in his lyrics. the only thing i really would ask of you if you consider yourself a fan of genres like jazz, bluegrass, folk, etc. is why would you waste your time listening to hip-hop when the other genres have some much to offer? my reason for my opinions on the genre are that the majority of it is definitely garbage musically and poetically. there are always some diamonds to be found in the rough, but that does not make up for the majority. despite how horrible most of 4e's music is, it amazes me that he really is the person on here who makes the most sense about music.
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big fucking whoop that your from new orleans. its not like i'm not from one of the most famous music cities in the world. your proof on how you know on how you know more jazz than me is bullshit. maybe if you were enrolled in the program, and one artist coming to perform. wow i could just go see any famous jazz musician and it would be the same. well i'm done posting on this topic. 4e if you read this i think we need to bring our music thread back so we can have some people who make sense about it.
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90%? but, of which artists are you looking at? oh, you're watching MTV and BET again aren't you?
you are using generalizations about the genre. i'm sure there are plenty of garbage(by your standards) rock songs.
if you think you are so musically cultured, then you'd actually understand and appreciate what good hip hop is. i've never said any genre is garbage, therfore making me much more cultured than you my friend.
you're one of those egotistical "my music is better than yours", ignorant type person. anytime you start an argument with that attitude, you lose. :hello:
i've never understood the point of ignorant people bashing something that other people like and they don't. something you don't understand is that your mind doesn't work the same way as mine, or anyone who listens to and composes hip hop. you grew up and were raised differently. hip hop (no, i'm not talking about soulja boy) is all about speaking from the soul. about life, tough times, and spirituality. i can relate to hip hop much easier than i can a metal song. when it boils down to it, i don't consider it a better genre of music; it's all the same to me, but i just can't relate to metal or country.
so next time you want to talk about a different genre, culture essentially, take a moment to think about it. don't be so ignorant.
well, i'm sure that'll be hard for you.
oh, and to answer your question about why i "waste my time" with hip hop, etc: the answer is simple, as i just finished explaining to you. i love the creativity and fluency that i hear when i listen to hip hop. for some reason you keep referencing degrading women, etc. i don't listen to 50, nor do i listen to T.I or what have you. i've got thousands of hip hop songs that probably don't even mention women (i.e the Cold Vein); the music i listen to is creative, whether you are a fan of hip hop or not.
the point of listening to music is to get something out of it. i can be soothed and i can relax with jazz or classical. but when i want to be zoned out in another world, i can do so by listening to rap. different rhyme schemes, flows, words, patterns, etc. are all what make up a great rapper. i'm sure you have your reasons to listen to whatever it is you do. nothing is really better than anything else. you could say the same thing about food or movies. people eat/watch what they do because it may simply be what satisfy's certain aspects of thier lives.
i'd like to hear a response from you without calling me a retard, that in itself again shows your close mindedness.
4e if you read this i think we need to bring our music thread back so we can have some people who make sense about it.
you do know that you are using a logical fallacy in your argument: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization
but then again, you do "make sense about it"
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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it's what you think is entertaining. i don't like the music, but what entertains me is when i stand between tenthousands of people singing and going wild with heavy bands like iron maiden (experience :cheers:)
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like i said i'm not going to argue with you, because you will never let yourself lose. i'm going to make peace by saying if you really are as cultured in music as you say we would probably share much of the same taste and be able to introduce each other to new music each of us like. the only other thing i will say is 90% of the hip-hop i mention is what is on mtv and bet; stuff that is underground is small minority in the genre and i agree thats normally where there is quality in hip-hop and many other genres. my only point is that rappers are compared to true music legends like the beatles, miles davis, and bob dylan, and there has been no hip-hop act that has compared to these artists. i'm done and the only reply i wanna see from you is that you agree to be finished arguing.
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About rappers' vocab... How come it's not enough for them to pass a simple middle school course of english? :lol: :lol: :lol: And how come rappers are most likely to drop out than anyone else? :bowdown: Sure, people, rappers definitely do make this world go round! xD
And yes, we do need our thread back, but nobody's going to like it again. xD
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actually, African Americans are most likely to drop out of middle school. so if you're implying that all African Americans are rappers, then you must be living in another world
sorry, but you folks against rap don't seem to have very cohesive arguments.
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actually, African Americans are most likely to drop out of middle school. so if you're implying that all African Americans are rappers, then you must be living in another world
sorry, but you folks against rap don't seem to have very cohesive arguments.
White rappers as well, Asian rappers as well.
And I'm not AGAINST rap, I'm just not FOR it.
P.S. If I said that African Americans are most likely to drop out of middle school, I'd be banned again. This time for a year. :banana: It may be true, however, there's about 5 blacks in all of my classes and they seem to be doing ok. In other words, it has nothing to do with your skin. :)
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i'd just love to see your source for your information. then i'd agree with you.
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dudes don't get off topic, just answer adi's question
and by the way, you rock haters also don't have reliable arguements so we're quitte now. you can't change our music taste and we can't change yours. everybody is happy with his music so why change it? happy?
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who's arguing against rock music? wow :rolleyes:
the performance was nice, wasn't something i'd make a thread about.
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who's arguing against rock music? wow :rolleyes:
the performance was nice, wasn't something i'd make a thread about.
i know, but you were arguing with mikael (=rock/metal music (experience)) and there are several treads ruined because of discussions like this one about rap vs rock.
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this thread was ruined as it started. there are many Kanye haters; it was bound to turn into something.
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http://www.ryanmcbain.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6980 - Parts of it. Not a very reliable source.
Most of the ALC's, at least in my state, are filled with rappers.
http://www.literacytrust.org.uk/Campaign/Rappers.html
Can't be fucked to spend more time looking for something that's so obvious.
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you called me ignorant throughout the entire argument, and you keep saying this stuff man. you my friend you are at least as ignorant as i if not more. mikael don't post anymore on this thread. this guy will never give up. you went too far saying that black people are more likely to drop out. there is no reason to try to make race a reason why a musical genre is better. also karma for sander, because he actually made a pretty good post trying to end the argument.
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i just want a quote of me saying rock as a genre sucks, or rap is better. find me that quote, and ill never post on this forum again.
but seeing as that won't happen:
(http://www.musicremedy.com/webfiles/artists/BabyD/BabyD-01-big.jpg)
peace :biggrin:
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i just want a quote of me saying rock as a genre sucks, or rap is better. find me that quote, and ill never post on this forum again.
i didn't say you said it, but eventually this tread will become a war between the music genres untill someone exaggerates it and gets banned or something
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well; this thread is pretty much about the definition of a good musical performance; so, in essence, it was always a war.
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Ok, I give up.
Rappers are the smartest human beings in the world. All the scientists, philosophers, presidents, and sportsmen can not live without Rap. Rappers invented everything people use and it takes years of practice to be able to write rap songs.
^_^: I don't know why I was arguing with you since it was pretty obvious from the beginning that you were right. I bow to you, master!
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so far you've brought in race, politics, philosophy, and sports :down:
it'd probably be wise if you took an argumentation or logic class; because i never implied any of that :lol:
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Hm... Not really. ;)
Well, nevertheless, my post was cool enough to have a part of it in your signature. :rockit:
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true :biggrin:
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find me that quote, and ill never post on this forum again.
rock as a genre sucks
What now son? lol
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find me that quote, and ill never post on this forum again.
rock as a genre sucks
What now son? lol
lmao hahaha
I guess we wont be seeing elite on here again :nopity:
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haha funny
no, but seriously :pimp:
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It's ok, master! Everyone makes mistakes! And that's what emo songs are all about!! :rockit:
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The way I can see it, Kanyes new genre shizzle his doing, it's uncool.
That's exactly what he's going for... the uncool, the unusual, the different, the shit that most of you think is "pussy" music.
Kanye put it the best:
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR MAKING 'HEARTLESS' NUMBER ONE ON 106 AND PARK!!!! MY BOY CALLED ME FROM THE A AND TOLD ME IT'S NUMBER ONE DOWN THERE TOO. THIS IS A SONG NOBODY CAN FRONT ON!!! THE BEAT IS ON SOME RZA SHIT AND EVERY LINE COULD MAKE THE ULTIMATE RAP HOOK! I COULD SEE SOMEBODY SAMPLING.... "WE JUST GONE BE ENEMIES!!!" I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT THERE'S PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THIS ALBUM THAT NEVER BOUGHT ONE OF MY ALBUMS BEFORE. I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT STREET NIGGAS LOVE IT! STREET NIGGAS CALLED ME AND TOLD ME THEY LOVE IT! YOU KNOW GIRLS LOVE IT!! EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT FAVORITE!!! RIGHT NOW. 'PARANOID' IS MOST LIKELY GONNA BE THE NEXT SINGLE. IT'S NECK AND NECK WITH 'ROBOCOP!!!' I'M NOT GONNA RELEASE EITHER FOR AWHILE BECAUSE I WANT 'HEARTLESS' AND 'LOVE LOCKDOWN' TO SOAK INTO THE CULTURE!! I'M GONNA WALK THIS ALBUM SLOW LIKE A MORE INDEPENDENT APPROACH. I FEEL LIKE A NEW ARTIST. THERE'S ACTUALLY ARGUMENTS AGAIN. IT REMINDS ME OF THE FIRST ALBUM WHEN EVERYBODY SAID I COULDN'T RAP. I LISTENED TO 'SAY YOU WILL' LAST NIGHT AT MY HOUSE AND WAS DAAAMN, THIS SONG IS SOOOO DOOOPE!!! I'M A FAN OF WHAT I'VE MADE. WHEN I MADE 'GRADUATION' I WASN'T SATISFIED! I FELT LIKE CERTAIN RECORDS WERE KEEPING IT FROM BEING A PLAY IN EVERY ENVIRONMENT ALBUM. I WAS AT THE COOL STORE IN AUSTRALIA CALLED ASSIN THAT CARRIES RICK OWENS, LANVIN, DIOR ECT... THEY TOLD ME THEY PLAY MY NEW ALBUM IN THE STORE. IT WAS SUCH A BIG COMPLIMENT FOR ME TO HAVE SONGS THAT ARE NUMBER ONE ON 106 AND CAN PLAY RIGHT NEXT TO VAMPIRE WEEKEND, SADE OR SILVERCHAIR IN A HIGH END FASHION STORE! IT'S SUCH A TRIUMPH TO HAVE LOVE LOCK DOWN ON RADIO. WHEN IT COMES IN IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANYTHING ELSE EVER MADE IN HISTORY! THIS IS NEW MUSIC! IT MIGHT TAKES SOME GETTING USE TO BUT WHEN IT SET'S IN IT WILL MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE!
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the whole rap vs rock argument is the most retarded thing ever, if you took part in it then congratulations: You are a retard! :thumbsup:
Since when was music an argument? Rock and Rap are two different things, yes both music but 2 different forms of music. Its like comparing a tea cup to an elephant.
Also, music isnt about being intelligent, you could be a stupid fuck but if you make a nice peice of music and someone enjoys it then well done to you.
If you argue that a certain genre is shit then you aren't a fan of music, you are just ignorant!
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if you anyone thinks i was arguing, mac, think twice and re-read the countless times i stressed that no music genre is better than any other. i don't think it's that hard to comprehend. it's about relation. i was never arguing, but trying to show people who for some reason like to insult other forms of music.
again, i've never said anything about rock. but for some reason, a whole bunch of intelligent, intellectual people decided to bash hip hop becasue of their supreme music knowledge. i don't feel that's right.
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The way I can see it, Kanyes new genre shizzle his doing, it's uncool.
That's exactly what he's going for... the uncool, the unusual, the different, the shit that most of you think is "pussy" music.
Kanye put it the best:
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR MAKING 'HEARTLESS' NUMBER ONE ON 106 AND PARK!!!! MY BOY CALLED ME FROM THE A AND TOLD ME IT'S NUMBER ONE DOWN THERE TOO. THIS IS A SONG NOBODY CAN FRONT ON!!! THE BEAT IS ON SOME RZA SHIT AND EVERY LINE COULD MAKE THE ULTIMATE RAP HOOK! I COULD SEE SOMEBODY SAMPLING.... "WE JUST GONE BE ENEMIES!!!" I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT THERE'S PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THIS ALBUM THAT NEVER BOUGHT ONE OF MY ALBUMS BEFORE. I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT STREET NIGGAS LOVE IT! STREET NIGGAS CALLED ME AND TOLD ME THEY LOVE IT! YOU KNOW GIRLS LOVE IT!! EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT FAVORITE!!! RIGHT NOW. 'PARANOID' IS MOST LIKELY GONNA BE THE NEXT SINGLE. IT'S NECK AND NECK WITH 'ROBOCOP!!!' I'M NOT GONNA RELEASE EITHER FOR AWHILE BECAUSE I WANT 'HEARTLESS' AND 'LOVE LOCKDOWN' TO SOAK INTO THE CULTURE!! I'M GONNA WALK THIS ALBUM SLOW LIKE A MORE INDEPENDENT APPROACH. I FEEL LIKE A NEW ARTIST. THERE'S ACTUALLY ARGUMENTS AGAIN. IT REMINDS ME OF THE FIRST ALBUM WHEN EVERYBODY SAID I COULDN'T RAP. I LISTENED TO 'SAY YOU WILL' LAST NIGHT AT MY HOUSE AND WAS DAAAMN, THIS SONG IS SOOOO DOOOPE!!! I'M A FAN OF WHAT I'VE MADE. WHEN I MADE 'GRADUATION' I WASN'T SATISFIED! I FELT LIKE CERTAIN RECORDS WERE KEEPING IT FROM BEING A PLAY IN EVERY ENVIRONMENT ALBUM. I WAS AT THE COOL STORE IN AUSTRALIA CALLED ASSIN THAT CARRIES RICK OWENS, LANVIN, DIOR ECT... THEY TOLD ME THEY PLAY MY NEW ALBUM IN THE STORE. IT WAS SUCH A BIG COMPLIMENT FOR ME TO HAVE SONGS THAT ARE NUMBER ONE ON 106 AND CAN PLAY RIGHT NEXT TO VAMPIRE WEEKEND, SADE OR SILVERCHAIR IN A HIGH END FASHION STORE! IT'S SUCH A TRIUMPH TO HAVE LOVE LOCK DOWN ON RADIO. WHEN IT COMES IN IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANYTHING ELSE EVER MADE IN HISTORY! THIS IS NEW MUSIC! IT MIGHT TAKES SOME GETTING USE TO BUT WHEN IT SET'S IN IT WILL MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE!
No I didn't just read that. No way, who wrote this.??? Do they even know who RZA is???? :saywhat: :saywhat: :saywhat: :saywhat:
(http://reparent.blog.uvm.edu/images/HiStan.jpg)
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Adi seems a little obsesive over this album
but i'm not shy to admit he does have some different shit going on
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Kanye is doing his own thing and thats cool. Personally I'm not a fan of his newer stuff thats all. Theres nothing wrong with trying something new. He can be a drama queen at times tho.
But whose heard this Reks - Gray Hairs album? I haven't heard of him before this. I'd say easily Hiphop album of the year and I've heard many this year.
(http://www.basementflavor.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/reks_grey_hairs.jpg)
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i'm getting the torrent right now to check it out
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Kanye is doing his own thing and thats cool. Personally I'm not a fan of his newer stuff thats all. Theres nothing wrong with trying something new. He can be a drama queen at times tho.
But whose heard this Reks - Gray Hairs album? I haven't heard of him before this. I'd say easily Hiphop album of the year and I've heard many this year.
(http://www.basementflavor.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/reks_grey_hairs.jpg)
hip hop album of the year is The Inevitably Rise And Fall of Niggy Tardust by Saul Williams. Musically, maybe. Lyrically, definitely. It's so creative and visionary.
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I shall go and have a listen to it than.
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I shall go and have a listen to it than.
I look forward to your verdict :cheers:
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*Hides behind brick wall from the barrage of abuse and bottles he will receive if Reks album isn't Elites cup of tea or if I don't appreciate TGEs Saul Williams* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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just finished downloading
good looks on this album :thumbsup:
he spits hard as fuck on "the one" and "how can it be", my favorites so far
i also like "say goodnight", "all in one", "next 2 me", "hidden bonus track"
havnt listened to much of the second half of it, but from what i did hear it's all smooth.
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just finished downloading
good looks on this album :thumbsup:
he spits hard as fuck on "the one" and "how can it be", my favorites so far
i also like "say goodnight", "all in one", "next 2 me", "hidden bonus track"
havnt listened to much of the second half of it, but from what i did hear it's all smooth.
+1
thanks for the recommendation :cheers:
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I downloaded Kanye's album and it's so class, I love the different style, and the way he's doing his own thing!
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
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I have new respesct for kanye his new song is pure genious and really is catchy.
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Kanye is doing his own thing and thats cool. Personally I'm not a fan of his newer stuff thats all. Theres nothing wrong with trying something new. He can be a drama queen at times tho.
But whose heard this Reks - Gray Hairs album? I haven't heard of him before this. I'd say easily Hiphop album of the year and I've heard many this year.
(http://www.basementflavor.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/reks_grey_hairs.jpg)
Oh indeed. I think it's really good and it feels different to all the other stuff I listen to. Definately a new favourite.
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I have new respesct for kanye his new song is pure genious and really is catchy.
The whole thing:
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Thats not the full version its just been looped.
heres the full version also its uncut. :thumbsup:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/crap/downloads/preview/8021/
feature=related
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Sporting the new sig bitches!
:cheers:
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Thats not the full version its just been looped.
heres the full version also its uncut. :thumbsup:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/crap/downloads/preview/8021/
feature=related
just got to watch it last night. carlos mencia's part was pretty funny as well
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Yeah saw that Southpark episode online too! Great stuff... the ending was the best. :biggrin:
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I'm a filthy Kanye hater
what must i do to turn my worthless life around :rolleyes:
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notice what he sayed entertianment.....i dont wanna be entertianed by some rapper i want to listen for the lyrics....if i wanted entertianment id watch some JK videos!, but if i wanted to be entertianed with music Kanye would not be my choice would be Gucci Mane, kanye sucks i dont know what he has the only thing i can think of is the worst dressing style...i like the music for the lyrics and with that being sayed heres some that would murder him..Styles P, Jadakiss, Joel ortiz, Stack Bundles, Big L, Eminem
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This shit right here is off the chain:
Not Kanye but you get the drift.
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notice what he sayed entertianment.....i dont wanna be entertianed by some rapper i want to listen for the lyrics....if i wanted entertianment id watch some JK videos!, but if i wanted to be entertianed with music Kanye would not be my choice would be Gucci Mane, kanye sucks i dont know what he has the only thing i can think of is the worst dressing style...i like the music for the lyrics and with that being sayed heres some that would murder him..Styles P, Jadakiss, Joel ortiz, Stack Bundles, Big L, Eminem
Was in a league of his own. Lets not mention Big L in a Kanye Thread
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This shit right here is off the chain:
Not Kanye but you get the drift.
it's even better than the original :lol:
jk jk
both are kool
but I still like it better than the original :lol:
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This shit right here is off the chain:
Not Kanye but you get the drift.
That was sick. :bowdown:
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well is heartless pop, rap, rock, wat? :saywhat:
n i thought kanye was a rapper.