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Soccer => Soccer Forum => Topic started by: samatar on Feb 02, 2008, 02:25: AM
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Ive notice lately for other thread on the ongoing quotes on how the 90s super star are way better then the then the players today.a lot of guys around here bag the current crop but when u look at the current crop there not that bad.u could See some becoming legends of the game coming from this crop.the ninety's had some great players like Zidane and Ronaldo, Figo, Rivaldo, Romario and, back a little further, the glorious George Weah and the great Roberto Baggio.but when u look at the stars going around we can be thrilled to bits, every week, by the skill and awesome talent of ronaldinho,Kaká, Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, and then by the likes of Eto’o, drogba,essian, the young Fabregas, Robinho, Tevez, torres,and those pubescents, Anderson, Nani, Bojan,pato and Giovani.And of course Ronaldinho, who has been strangely on the wane of late but who, should he make a u-turn, remains the most devastating football talent since Maradona, better than all of the above in my view.on his day he can tear a team in to bits and piece and i don't think there are around that can argue with that.
and if any one say why riquelme is not mention please I'm not going to even bother mentioning a player that has only played one good season.and if u wondering why i mention these young player instead of riquelme, its pretty simple most of those guys are all under the age of 25 playing for big club.riquelme almost 30 and his played a few season in the Spanish league.he could not make the starting line up for barca and when u consider barca back then there pathetic compared to the list now.and yet messi is one of the key players at age 20 when riquelme couldnt even make the barca team that was doing shit untill ronaldinho came and save the day.
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Yeah, I agree...Ronaldinho and co. are not on a lower level than the talents of the nineties. But Riquelme is a great passer, and you cant write him off like that. His vision of the field is among the best of all players, and he instinctively knows where to put that perfect pass to create space. I think in this decade, there's more emphasis on skill than athleticism...its the whole ronaldinho vs. ronaldo debate...think about it, Ronaldo was faster than ronaldinho, but who has more skill (and, in my opinion, is better overall)?. And people like Zidane really hit their primes at the end of the nineties. The 1990 world cupwas the worst world cup in history, whereas the 2002 was was probably the best.
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Good post samatar. You should post more on the forum.
I totally agree with you. There are far too many people that are dissing the current talent in the world. We have just as much, if not more, talent than we did in the 90s. There are tons of world-class players that will surely become legends. Some of them are also only in their early 20s.
The problem with the people that dislike our current talent is that they can't appreciate it until it's gone. Once this talent has retired, they will look back and realize how good it was. It's always the case.
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true i totally agree.
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i think your right in some aspects but ronaldinho better then ronaldo, romario, figo. thats just scary. football is looking good for the future. especially when you have players like robinho, bojan, fabregas and messi. but seriously riquelme deserves a mention. you dont have to play at a big club to be good.
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ronaldinho on his day has done things with a football that none of those players have done.but u could debate with ronaldo back in the day when he played for psv,barca and inter.can u tell me why riquelme deserves a mention if u can see i left out players such as gerrard,totti and ballack.
you say that to mention ronaldinho with the likes of figo and romario is scary and yet he has already achieve more the those guys.but to mention riquelme on the list NOW THATS SCARY.
riquelme is an average player that played one good season and choke when it really matted.
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the amount of things riquelme has done with the ball are the same if not better. ronaldinho played well for two three seasons where is he now. yes he had the knee injury. but look at ronaldo. he has had more then one but yet seses to amaze me.
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Look on helplessly as your fallen idol serves drinks and pays his respects to the masters of the game. :pimp:
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hahaha +1 karma because i never laughed like that in weeks
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Look on helplessly as your fallen idol serves drinks and pays his respects to the masters of the game. :pimp:
hahahaha that is some funny shit.
i somewhat agree with samatar but from all these best long distance vids they are all mostly from the 90's such as the roberto carlos freekick and the seedorf goal. maybe strikes like that are being over shadowed whilst the older ones are over hyped.
Riquelme scored on his debut for barcelona a freekick if i remember but after that he wasnt played too much. always when a new youngster comes along the press are so quick to call them "The New Maradona" which can give the image that football was better back then when these players should try and make there own name instead of following off some label the media gave them. like almost every youth player is these days and also itraises too much expectation for them to live up to legends.
it would be great seeing Ronaldinho at his prime again it was amazing seeing what he could do and the way he tricked people and manipulated defenders.
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Nice picture melbourne. Don't agree with Requelme sitting in the King's seat but still great. :thumbsup:
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the amount of things riquelme has done with the ball are the same if not better.
I laughed at this quote for days.
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ronaldinho on his day has done things with a football that none of those players have done.but u could debate with ronaldo back in the day when he played for psv,barca and inter.can u tell me why riquelme deserves a mention if u can see i left out players such as gerrard,totti and ballack.
you say that to mention ronaldinho with the likes of figo and romario is scary and yet he has already achieve more the those guys.but to mention riquelme on the list NOW THATS SCARY.
riquelme is an average player that played one good season and choke when it really matted.
Riquelme has something that neither Ballack nor Gerrard ever had (Totti has some), and that is vision. He is creative enough to read plays before they happen, and to create space with every pass he makes. Gerrard and Ballack dont have that kind of creativity, and Totti is quite frankly, obscenely overrated. Players like Riquelme, on the other hand, are underrated. Thats why a player like Evar Banega should be mentioned along with the likes of Messi and Bojan. The game needs players like Riquelme and Banega.
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And I can tell you that Requelme has nowhere the overall game that Ballack and Gerrard do. Requelme is not better just because he has vision. Gerrard and Ballack posses much better physical attributes (pace, agility, strength, etc) and are also better defensively and in the air. I think we should talk about who the better overall player is, and not just consider the one good attribute a player has.
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And I can tell you that Requelme has nowhere the overall game that Ballack and Gerrard do. Requelme is not better just because he has vision. Gerrard and Ballack posses much better physical attributes (pace, agility, strength, etc) and are also better defensively and in the air. I think we should talk about who the better overall player is, and not just consider the one good attribute a player has.
yes but vision is the thing that so many players lack. I'd rather have great vision and average speed than crap vision and good speed. Soccer is a numbers game, its all about using the space to create two-on-ones, three-on-ones. etc...Vision is what really breaks a game open. The great pass is the thing that most often fools a defence, not the shot.
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You can't say Gerrard has no vision. He has a lot of vision. Maybe not as much as Requelme, but it's damn close.
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You can't say Gerrard has no vision. He has a lot of vision. Maybe not as much as Requelme, but it's damn close.
not as close as you might think...there are maybe 5 players in the world who can create and use the space on a field like Riquelme, and nobody does it as well. He is not a complete player, but players with his talents come along only once every few years. I dont even think than Banega will get there. None of the young talents have the kind of vision Riquelme has had for his entire career. He is a player who makes even mediocre players seem very good.
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You can't say Gerrard has no vision. He has a lot of vision. Maybe not as much as Requelme, but it's damn close.
I'm sorry when it came to vision even Gerrard doesn't come close.