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Soccer => Soccer Forum => Topic started by: Adi on Feb 01, 2008, 02:26: PM
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Capello names provisional 30-man England squad
Provisional England squad for the friendly against Switzerland on February 6:
Carson (Aston Villa), James (Portsmouth), Kirkland (Wigan); Bridge (Chelsea), Brown (Manchester United), A Cole (Chelsea), C Davies (Aston Villa), Ferdinand (Manchester United) G Johnson (Portsmouth), King (Tottenham), Lescott (Everton), Richards (Manchester City), Shorey (Reading), Upson (West Ham), Woodgate (Tottenham); Barry (Aston Villa), Bentley (Blackburn), Carrick (Manchester United), J Cole (Chelsea), Downing (Middlesbrough), Gerrard (Liverpool), Hargreaves (Manchester United), Jenas (Tottenham), Wright-Phillips (Chelsea), Young (Aston Villa); Agbonlahor (Aston Villa), Crouch (Liverpool), Heskey (Wigan), Owen (Newcastle), Rooney (Manchester United).
No Robinson in goal and no Beckham. Interesting pick with Curtis Davies.
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Capello said: 'I know there has been a lot of discussion about David Beckham. The reason that David is not in the squad is because he has not had any real match practice since playing in November.
beckham has been trying with arsenal during the mls off-season to stay fit, and so when beckham heard the disappointing news he quickly came back to the united states cancelling a visit he had with a charity event that he was planned to attend...he is pissed and he has a right to i feel. capello says he wants to see how beckham does in march when the mls starts back up, beckham will be called up sooner or later to the squad just to get that 100th cap and so this seems to be prolonging it
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i say no. when will this guy retire for good. everybody knows he is shit
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Yeah, Beckham is the leader on this time.
Good to see Robinson go, James is way better.
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i say no. when will this guy retire for good. everybody knows he is shit
Haha sometimes I really wonder how you come up with these conclusions. Beckham was one of the few players that actually performed for the national team when selected. He's still good.
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:stupid: some times i wonder how you get the courage to disagree with Moby :lol:
i'm with Moby on this one :biggrin:
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thanks tito
i just think beckhams level of football has dropped over the past few years.
compare him when he was playing with man utd and the first few seasons at real madrid and now. i think he can find better players then him.
as much as i hate to say beckham was a pretty good player. his crosses and lobs were excellent. but now i dont see him doing that at all. maybe just a few good freekicks here and there
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i reckon beckham is a good sub.
he should have been name because you mite need a player like him in the match.
i will agree with moby that beckham is not the player he was.capello made the right decision, most managers would have beckham in the squad so he could achieve his century.he mite have been good on the bench but then again u could see where capello is coming from.
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Becks is still good but wtf J.cole is doing there? benchwarmer maybe :dontknow:
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well j.cole just set up an excellant goal.
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i agree with what they said in the bbc studio. shouldve given becks his 100th cap n let him retire. i think although he has performed for his country when really no1 else has, hes not as good as lennon and bently who are getting better very rapidly and will soon overtake him.
and jcole was one of the few players who played well in our dismal first half, as per usual. lay off him.
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First win under Capello!
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Beckham was very good during the end of last year. Remember his performances for Real Madrid? He was also brilliant for England when he got called up. He set up goals in as many games as he played.
I know he's not at the peak of his career, but the guy still has so much to offer. I think he would play at the same level as he played for Madrid at the end of his career. The guy knows everyone is against him and that's exactly when he plays his best. He's got too much heart, passion, and skill not to be good enough.
He's at least a good sub and leader for the team. Hell, he can even start on the right wing. Who even plays there for England?
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I think Jenas played there, and apparently he did really well. Many people are tipping him off to be really good in the future.
As for Beckham, I think he should have played, it's a friendly, let him play. I mean he was so good against Croatia, he was the one that actually wanted to win. And that fantastic cross against Brazil, .. like you said, he's got too much heart and skill to be excluded.
Anyone know when Terry is coming back?
I wonder if it'll be..
Brown..Terry..Ferdinand..A.Cole
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Jenas is very average. Not much you can say about Jenas to keep Beckham at home.
Jenas is a very typical, boring English player. At least he did well yesterday. Doubt he's a gem of a player though.
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i reckon beckham is a good sub.
he should have been name because you mite need a player like him in the match.
i will agree with moby that beckham is not the player he was.capello made the right decision, most managers would have beckham in the squad so he could achieve his century.he mite have been good on the bench but then again u could see where capello is coming from.
and an even better reserve :thumbsup:
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hahaha. jenas has potential or he could just become another rooney
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you kids over-rate Ronney just because he can run with his head down like babies and toe bash the ball with outlooking doesn't make him a great player
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Hmm, so his hat-trick against Bolton last year was just luck? And his other couple against Bolton again was just luck? Please. Ronaldo and Rooney thrashed your team.
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Who doesn't thrash Bolton?
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Too true. :dontknow:
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Hmm, so his hat-trick against Bolton last year was just luck? And his other couple against Bolton again was just luck? Please. Ronaldo and Rooney thrashed your team.
i'd say it was cuase he couldn't repeat it this season
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rooney needs to learn how to play soccer
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btw Bolton only conceded 2 goal so far this year in 2008
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rooney needs to learn how to play soccer
He knows how to score against top teams like Inter.
btw Bolton only conceded 2 goal so far this year in 2008
Yeah, but what place are they in?
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just for the record... bentley played on the right for england.....very similar to becks.... but at some point he will atleast give beckham a run out in a friendly... becks needs to call him and say....give me a ten minute run out at the end of a game....i can get my 100th cap then retire
btw moby... your a bit of an idiot when it comes to talking about football arnt you... do you actually ever no wot your talking about or just say what pops into your head?
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both adi!!
btw wats your problem it my opinion
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btw wats your problem it my opinion
Not seeing any quality in Rooney. :dontknow:
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all you have to do is watch utd vs man city to know how important rooney is.... i think last season he got the most assits in the prem aswell... him and ronaldo together are as good as any attacking force in the world and the both make each other player better.
would be nice if rooney - gerrard could do that for england
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Moby just likes to bullshit United. Why don't you see past United and look at the quality players on the team rather than just bashing everyone on it.
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strikers are judged by how many goals they get rooney hasnt been on form lately. he is a very hard working player but i dont think he is as good as he was showing earlier on. the best i think he ever performed was euro 2004. I am an arsenal supporter and i can say the same about walcott. he showed some brilliant flashes but latley has played aweful. i dont know what thats what moby is going on about but thats the way i see it.
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England don't know there Strikers they have too many inform strikers that ain't picked
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England don't know there Strikers they have too many inform strikers that ain't picked
Wernt picked... agbonglahor was picked in capellos new squad... he is an inform striker... and he also dropped owen to the bench - an out of form striker
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strikers are judged by how many goals they get
There is some truth to this, but the ones that say this are usually those that don't watch the games. Not saying that you do this, but the people that simply look at the box score and see who scores will not think highly of Rooney. If you watch the game however, you will see how valuable he is to the team.
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if you guys call a player that shoots without looking quality. then i am guilty.
i got nothing against ronaldo he is a pretty good player. good speed good vision. but rooney. i have no respect for that man. and this is just my opinion dont go wild and start insults and other bad behaviours.
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if you guys call a player that shoots without looking quality. then i am guilty.
You would know there's a lot more to Rooney if you actually watched a United game and stopped bashing them. :down:
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oh i've seen alot of man utd games. Ac milan 3 vs man utd 0
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And then you'd know we had a lot of injuries and we can easily beat them now. Just shut up about English football you don't know anything about it.
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No one "easily beats" Milan in the Champions League.
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Uh oh Chunk is viewing this, I'm gonna get in shit. ;)
Well no, you're right, but they've been pretty bad this year, and we've added enough strength and depth to our squad that if an injury occurs like last season, we're ready.
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They have been but but they've been turning it around lately... no? :dontknow:
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as much as i hate to say Ac Milan is a presigous club. it won't need all its player to beat a team like man utd
and yeah borg i'll shut up about the English league because i know i am not missing out on anything special.
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Good, you're seriously starting to make yourself sound stupid.
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i'm not the one who is stupid. at least i dont think that shooting the ball from 35 yards out in every match is football. football is about team. the way you play detirmens weither you win. besides the liverpool win why do you think english teams struggle against teams that play real football like Ac Milan, Barca, juve, Madrid and all other top clubs. the only team i see in the EPL that is playing actuall football is Arsenal. have you seen the way they pass, go pass opponents. all other teams look like they play school yard soccer
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What's your definition of stupid?
Liverpool just beat your team yesterday. They also won the CL in 2005, and made it to the final last year. ALSO, 3 English clubs were in the semi finals last year.
You're making yourself sound stupid. :dontknow:
EDIT: Just seen a little statistic on the Man Utd/Lyon game.
United Completed Passes: 208
Lyon: 103
What does that tell you? That United doesn't pass? Please.
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What's your definition of stupid?
Liverpool just beat your team yesterday. They also won the CL in 2005, and made it to the final last year. ALSO, 3 English clubs were in the semi finals last year.
You're making yourself sound stupid. :dontknow:
EDIT: Just seen a little statistic on the Man Utd/Lyon game.
United Completed Passes: 208
Lyon: 103
What does that tell you? That United doesn't pass? Please.
Not to get involved in your argument or anything, but none of them won it. :lol:
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Yeah, but look at the ratio of how many English teams beat non-English teams.. :hello:
Ah and also, I believe all the English teams came first in their group stage. :thumbsup:
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True the problem with English teams is they can't really switch their styles when playing against difficult opposition except Liverpool, they do it well. Look at the way Milan handled Arsenal this morning they where able to adapt and hold on even tho they where on the back foot for most of the game. The style English teams play helps at home but when it comes to the away tie they simply cannot adapt. Like Milan did with Manchester last season.
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Arsenal finished second to Sevilla :bang:
My favorite stastic: No English player has ever been world player of the year. In fact, no world player of the year has come out of the EPL! :hello:
Oh, and Arsenal has played the most fluent and beautiful football in the EPL for the past 5 season, no matter what place they finished in! Sorry guys, but United does not play a fluent, free flowing game like Arsenal. It doesn't boil down to who is better when it comes to who has better quality as a unit. Think about the games United has won last year because Ronaldo pulled something out of his ass, or this year with Tevez rescuing United in the last seconds (Tottenham, Lyon)
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What's your definition of stupid?
Liverpool just beat your team yesterday. They also won the CL in 2005, and made it to the final last year. ALSO, 3 English clubs were in the semi finals last year.
You're making yourself sound stupid. :dontknow:
EDIT: Just seen a little statistic on the Man Utd/Lyon game.
United Completed Passes: 208
Lyon: 103
What does that tell you? That United doesn't pass? Please.
yeah but i am mainly talking about italian and spanish top clubs. forget about the inter game. we were playing very defensive. i am talking about finals and one leg matches with no home and away.
elite good point.
no english has won the world player of the year cause non of them play true football.
no world player of the year has come out of the EPL cause the EPL dont play true football.
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Ofcourse they play good football. So much talent is there.. look at the top 10 teams and tell me there is no talent there. Even Tottenham and Portsmouth and Villa have talent, and they're like middle-league teams.
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You are pretty much saying there is no talent in Spain and Italy. Again, i re-enforce the fact that the EPL doesn't produce the World Player of the Year. Maybe in 2008, but as of right now, no.
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I didn't imply that, I'm just defending the EPL.
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I can see that you are defending the EPL :rolleyes:
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compare the talent bought by the EPL and European league. compare quresma, deco, pato etc to good for nothing EPL players.
The EPL does not need defending because any person that really understands football knows it is the worst league.
Thumbs up ELITE :thumbsup:
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I would not say it is the worst league. It is just not better than the others.
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Worst league? A little too far there man.
I'm not saying it's the best, but what the hell are you on? It's a good league just like the other leagues.
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not just like the other league but its okay
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we all know it is a shit league but i totally would prefer to play in the greek league rather then the EPL
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Turkish league FTW
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totally
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we all know it is a shit league but i totally would prefer to play in the greek league rather then the EPL
you basically a waste of a member tht makes stupid comments all the time lol
fine some people may rate other leagues better then the epl... but e all know the 3 top leagues come from spain,england and italy... its just a matter of opinion which way they are.
but when you just make flat out stupid comments.... we may aswell just leave u to it cos u make urself look like a twat :thumbsup:
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He also admires Riquelme as a great player. His posts don't mean much.
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He also admires Riquelme as a great player. His posts don't mean much.
elite... ur an intellegent guy so dont act stupid aswell... you can see he doesn't take on board other peoples opinions and argue back constructivly.
and imo the great player label goes around to much... riquelme is a very good player.... but does he have the big games and moments that make a great player? i dont think so personally
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bebow whats you problem. The epl will never reach the standards of the seria a and la liga. i made that post just to empisis my point. i believe this is a forum. imagine if everybody had the same opinion. so dont go out making stupid post like you one. my post were just to emphisis my point. any true footballer know what a shit league the EPL is. :nopity:
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I Co.sign Moby 110%. :thumbsup:
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bebow whats you problem. The epl will never reach the standards of the seria a and la liga. i made that post just to empisis my point. i believe this is a forum. imagine if everybody had the same opinion. so dont go out making stupid post like you one. my post were just to emphisis my point. any true footballer know what a shit league the EPL is. :nopity:
see the thing is.... you made a stupid post regarding the greek league, the thing is in terms of money making, entertainment value, and it being the most watched the league in the world.... again there is not really an arguing that it is the most popular league in the world... therefore , most people would think the epl is the best league in the world.
and your right this is a forum.....and i never said anything regarding your opinion... more th stupid way you put it across.......
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If it's so shit, then why do they have success in the CL, and UEFA Cup. And yes, I know they haven't won the CL last year, but look how many teams made it that far.
It's not shit, but it's not the best, just rest on that. :down:
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Spanish and Italian teams are much more successful when it comes to Champions league, claim other things but when it comes to Europe even Ajax and Bayern have better European records than most BIG English teams except Pool. :thumbsup:
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1999 - United v Bayern
United .. what a comeback. We win!
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Was a great game. But Bayern has still won more CL titles than United.
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How many have Bayern won?
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4.
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this will turn into another england germany thread....... dont make me bring up the war :thumbsup:
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Well last year, we could have done well, but we faced injuries, and I won't blame it on that, cause Kaka played amazing, but still, we were missing 2 of our starting 4 defence. And 2 of our starting midfielders..
Other European teams have done well in CL, yes, but over the past years, how many times have English clubs finished 1st in their groups, and made it so far that it had to be English v English in a semi-final.
this will turn into another england germany thread....... dont make me bring up the war :thumbsup:
Oh please do. For Adi's benefit. ;)
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look how many english teams were left in europe last week.... and the amount in the cl... right now we are the dominent force
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Are all English clubs still in the UEFA Cup?
I think Everton won like 6-1 or something.
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Are all English clubs still in the UEFA Cup?
I think Everton won like 6-1 or something.
all the teams tht got through on..everton as 8-1 lol
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anyone else heard about Micah Richards being dropped the England squad after a video was discovered of him and someone else double teaming a brunette bitch in a hotel toilet?
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I want to see that video.
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I want to see that video.
me too. i read about it in a newspaper today.
i might do some more research about this video :cheers:
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Wow seriously?
Capello is doing fabulous so far. Attending a lot of games, and only taking the players willing to perform at their best, making all the top players play good. Owen has been better..
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also i cant imagine Beckham being recalled now after his incident against an Hawii team in a friendly.
didnt he headbutt someone?
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What?
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i just saw him arguing with the ref
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I would not say it is the worst league. It is just not better than the others.
Admit that the Premiership is more entertaining than Serie A and La Liga. I think so...
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I would not say it is the worst league. It is just not better than the others.
Admit that the Premiership is more entertaining than Serie A and La Liga. I think so...
i think la liga is a good league... i dont really like watchin most games in seria A, but i have enjoyed la liga this this and ofcourse i watch a lot of prem football so I am bound to be biased but with the year villa are having... i love the prem right now haha
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La Liga is good, don't get me wrong. I watch it every weekend. I just think that the Premiership is a bit more entertaining to watch. I don't understand how moby and Tito can think the Premiership is crap. Seems like they don't want to give it a chance. If you can watch Serie A, then you can definitely sit down and watch some of the English league. You won't be disappointed.
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La Liga is good, don't get me wrong. I watch it every weekend. I just think that the Premiership is a bit more entertaining to watch. I don't understand how moby and Tito can think the Premiership is crap. Seems like they don't want to give it a chance. If you can watch Serie A, then you can definitely sit down and watch some of the English league. You won't be disappointed.
i do agree... it does come across like they just dont want to like it...maybe adi would recommend watchin aston villa?
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Villa is fun to watch. That's what I like about the Premiership... even the shit teams are fun to watch. Haha, just kidding Bow! :biggrin:
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Villa is fun to watch. That's what I like about the Premiership... even the shit teams are fun to watch. Haha, just kidding Bow! :biggrin:
Do you remember when you used to be called coon with realising the major racist content.... well you now have just gone 1 wose in insulting aston villa.... maybe ill give u a yellow card
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I'd maybe call them even to watch. I enjoy watching La Liga and EPL much more than I do Serie A. Not to say the quality of players is better though.
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Serie A doesnt get as much coverage as La Liga or the Premiership do so its bound to be not as popular as the premiership and la liga. like skysports doesnt cover Serie A in the UK.
saying the quality of Serie A players are poorer really is pathetic. World player of the year, Toni (came from serie a) , Totti etc you either dont watch it enough like Tito doesnt watch the prem enough. but tbh arguing would be pretty pointless.
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I don't think the quality is less in Italy, I just think the football played in Spain and England is a bit more fun to watch. :thumbsup:
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That's pretty much what I was trying to say :teeth:
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adi i understand your point. the epl is good because it has non stop attacking football. but with the other leagues espacially the seria a it has a slow build up then an amazing goal. remember the goal argentina scored against serbia in the 2006 world cup. the one with like 21 touches then the goal. i like to watch that kind of football rather then attack attack attack.
but i seriouly think the la liga and the Seria A are better then the EPL because of the kind of football they play