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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Freestyle Chat => Topic started by: BigMac on Aug 18, 2008, 12:08: AM
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Sounds crazy but give me your thoughts on this.
I reckon it could happen some day, and i hope it will. There is alot of sports in the Olympics, like shooting, walking and bmx. Random sports but they are in the olympics.
If it was in the olympics i reckon it would be like gymnastics in the sense that the judges would give you an overall score combined on hard tricks, style, variety, technique etc. What do you guys think?
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Right now the sport is too young. Too actually make the competition have quality the judges would need to be known and experienced in it so before this is possible we'd need to wait atleast 10 years. But even in 10 years I dont see freestyle being in the Olympics. Later on I do. Freestyle is growing all the time with more and more competitions which shows freestyle in the Olympics is possible. Every sport has once been small and every sport needs to start of from scratch with only a few people doing the sport.
Time will tell.
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The next summer games is in London no? That would be a perfect place to start it, seeing as there are many freestylers from there.
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yeah london is a great place to start it, and i am willing to look into it and try and make it happen. But if i should just sit and wait then i will. Nothing will happen if you just wait.
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ok but how would we play it on olympics, there are different systems that can be made...
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what do you mean?
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maybe, but u would have to introduce all the other "extreme" sports too, which idont think they will do. they like the professionalism sports.
and there wud be no point having it cos we all know john farnworth would win :D :thumbsup: :cheers:
but on a gymnastics note, get rid of fckin womens gymnastics! all that poxy, pansy, hand shit they do really pisses me off, its so gay.
just do it likethe men and get on with it, instead of raising ur hands and bending ur wrists every 3 seconds! :angry:
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what do you mean?
the system of freestyle competition could be different: like you have to win in few things to be winner...for example 5 disciplines: 1. longest cobmo 2. best upper ...... who got 3 points win, or it should be this system we have now, lp freestyle with some unknow judges
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yeah they would have to be a proper judging system, and pete i have no idea what other sports have to do with freestyling.
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good idea i would like to see this happen,im all in for it 2 :thumbsup:
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like others said: it should be done like other 'trick' sports such as gymnastics, figure skating and bmx. the jugdes must be people that know more about freestyle than the judges nowadays. for example people that quit freestyle because of injuries or something. freestylers can get points for style, hard tricks and orginality. or maybe there can be certain disciplines so there are competitions of only sits, uppers or lowers. but the sport is indeed too small now, but at least it's growing because more and more people are starting freestyle. so maybe in the future, but london is too early
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the sport is big enough imo, if it is in the next olympics then by 2016 it will be huge.
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Finding the right judges would also be difficult because so many are good friends with eachother or enemies.
It's not like in some sports where none of the competitors have ever seen the judge before or anything like that. Having a non freestyler as a judge is out of the question, it'd be ridiculous. Just look at Red Bull in Vienna where Szymo who clearly by all means did a much better performance than his opponent and still didn't win. Freestyle in the Olympics is a dream for all of us I believe - what we need to do to make it happend is keep on freestyling, make videos and get more people to freestyle.
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first time I've seen a post by Oli and actually agreed with it completely.. Good post, wise words
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in my opinion waiting for something to happen is never a good idea. I will look into it, i dont think it is too early for something like this to happen.
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Mac you have copied my idea, i posted this in the olymip section a few weeks back, :boxing:, but its ok
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nothing.
altho i personally dont think it wud work in olympics, cos fs and whose better has alot of opinionated base, and it varies between person to person.
some skill may be easy to one and hard for another person.
one style may look crap to one may look good to another.
whereas in olympic sports, most of them are u know whose won, done and dusted.
also i dont think personally it wud be a good step for fs. too commercial..more a keep it underground street thing for me..but thats mypersonal opinion
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Olympics is more about indivisual performances in various conventional human skills(endurance,speed,accuracy,etc).Also,it gives a lotta scope for performance arts..So,there shouldnt be many reasons why freestyle football shouldnt make it to the Olympics sooner,rather than later.And I dont think these games should include a lotta team sports,but thats another topic altogether.
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Mac you have copied my idea, i posted this in the olymip section a few weeks back, :boxing:, but its ok
sorry bro, i havent been here.
pete you put across good points with the whole opinion thing. Makes alot of sense.
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macca u are very similar to my mum in the way u think she was talking about how freestyle should be in the olympics
but i agreeeee with the other posts woukld be very hard to find un bias judges that know about freestyle
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Don't want to be negative, but honestly I don't think freestyle will ever be in the Olympics, just because..
Every sport in the Olympics has an objective, or a goal you know, and Freestyle doesn't, it is a hobbie, not even a sport. You just do it for fun, you do it for yourself and to entretain people, it doesn't have an objective like the other sports..
I don't really know if you understand what I mean, but if you do, that's just my point of view; but yeah, nobody knows, maybe it will come in the next Olympics, or maybe not.
That's what I think ;)
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javi i agree with some points of your post, but what is the goal of e.g. gymnastics or figure skating?
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yeah i suppose there is no clear way of winning, but in gymnastics it is based on individual performance. So in that respect it could qualify as an Olympic sport.
Ha, qualify as an Olympic sport speaking like i am sort of official here. :biggrin:
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thisll never happen in time for London. the only reason something like BMXing can be in olympics is because its had years of legitimate and professionally done competitions, with an already strict and established points scoring system, worldwide recognition etc.
freestyle has none of this. it is very much an 'urban' urban sport, whereas skateboarding, bmxing have a proffessional side. freestyle is like freerunning/parkour. its still more of a hobby sport, than a pro sport, even if there are many 'pros' (in skill and in moneymaking) in there. how could it go into the olympics when we cant even judge which tricks are hardest, and who has good style. i know we could 'make it official', but appart from there being no legit freestyle organisation to propose it, it needs years of testing and trial of the new 'olympic's standard' of rules and comp settings, and theres no way that London 2012 could host freestyle. maybe 2016 if we get to work now...
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dudes i've done some research. for the male-sports a sport (remember that fs is not yet an official sport) must be performed in at least 4 continents (no problem;)) and in 75 countries (that may be the problem) to become an olympic sport. also when a new sport is added, an older one should be removed.
this makes it almost impossible for freestyle to become olympic, but maybe as a demonstrationsport, just like with teakwondo and triathlon.
maybe if we make a list of countries and try to have at least one example from each country, see if we can reach 75?
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dudes i've done some research. for the male-sports a sport (remember that fs is not yet an official sport) must be performed in at least 4 continents (no problem;)) and in 75 countries (that may be the problem) to become an olympic sport. also when a new sport is added, an older one should be removed.
this makes it almost impossible for freestyle to become olympic, but maybe as a demonstrationsport, just like with teakwondo and triathlon.
maybe if we make a list of countries and try to have at least one example from each country, see if we can reach 75?
nice bit of research you did there, i will start a small list from the top of my head because i am bored.
btw just adding an fser to show someone fs there.
GB - JF
Ireland - Nam
France - Matmat
Sweden - Palle
Australia - BevS
Brazil - Pedro
Spain - NeN
Norway - Tobias
Holland - 2zani
Italy - Enry
Poland - Szymo
Belguim - Filip
Hungary - Rocco
America - Shenker
Canada - Chakour
Croatia - Pirner
Luxembourg - Sven
Germany - Timo
Someone feel free to add to that. Btw does anyone know which sport BMX replaced?
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1 GB - JF
2 Ireland - Nam
3 France - Matmat
4 Sweden - Palle
5 Australia - BevS
6 Brazil - Pedro
7 Spain - NeN
8 Norway - Tobias
9 Holland - 2zani
10 Italy - Enry
11 Poland - Szymo
12 Belguim - Filip
13 Hungary - Rocco
14 America - Shenker
15 Canada - Chakour
16 Croatia - Pirner
17 Luxembourg - Sven
18 Germany - Timo
19 Greece - 2zef
20 Japan - Hirokazu
21 Mauritius - Zahiir
22 Venezuela - a10s
23 Finland - (there's this farmerboy that freestyles in his garage, someone please copy this and edit this)
24 Russia - 4emovek
25 South-corea - JK (not sure where all those asians come from)
26 China - Riodavid
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does anyone know where a link to the nike chain vid is? This could easily make the list, i know they arent all 'freestylers' but it is still a good bit of proof to show that freestyle exists and can advance.
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1 GB - JF
2 Ireland - Nam
3 France - Matmat
4 Sweden - Palle
5 Australia - BevS
6 Brazil - Pedro
7 Spain - NeN
8 Norway - Tobias
9 Holland - 2zani
10 Italy - Enry
11 Poland - Szymo
12 Belguim - Filip
13 Hungary - Rocco
14 America - Shenker
15 Canada - Chakour
16 Croatia - Pirner
17 Luxembourg - Sven
18 Germany - Timo
19 Greece - 2zef
20 Japan - Hirokazu
21 Mauritius - Zahiir
22 Venezuela - a10s
23 Finland - (there's this farmerboy that freestyles in his garage, someone please copy this and edit this)
24 Russia - 4emovek
25 South-corea - JK (not sure where all those asians come from)
26 China - Riodavid
Yre you guys kidding me :biggrin: if red bull was closer i would fuck up little BBBoy xD jk
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Sounds crazy but give me your thoughts on this.
I reckon it could happen some day, and i hope it will. There is alot of sports in the Olympics, like shooting, walking and bmx. Random sports but they are in the olympics.
If it was in the olympics i reckon it would be like gymnastics in the sense that the judges would give you an overall score combined on hard tricks, style, variety, technique etc. What do you guys think?
haha strange i was thinking exactly the same thing it shud be done in in 10-20 years there are so many freestylers
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there are Gymnastics events in the Olympics where they play with a ball... its called Rhythmic Gymnastics i think... sure they use their hands, but so do freestylers... so in a way, freestyle is already in the Olympics :P
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1 GB - JF
2 Ireland - Nam
3 France - Matmat
4 Sweden - Palle
5 Australia - BevS
6 Brazil - Pedro
7 Spain - NeN
8 Norway - Tobias
9 Holland - 2zani
10 Italy - Enry
11 Poland - Szymo
12 Belguim - Filip
13 Hungary - Rocco
14 America - Shenker
15 Canada - Chakour
16 Croatia - Pirner
17 Luxembourg - Sven
18 Germany - Timo
19 Greece - 2zef
20 Japan - Hirokazu
21 Mauritius - Zahiir
22 Venezuela - a10s
23 Finland - (there's this farmerboy that freestyles in his garage, someone please copy this and edit this)
24 Russia - 4emovek
25 South-corea - JK (not sure where all those asians come from)
26 China - Riodavid
27 New Zealand - Graeson
28 Jupiter - Skora
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1 GB - JF
2 Ireland - Nam
3 France - Matmat
4 Sweden - Palle
5 Australia - BevS
6 Brazil - Pedro
7 Spain - NeN
8 Norway - Tobias
9 Holland - 2zani
10 Italy - Enry
11 Poland - Szymo
12 Belguim - Filip
13 Hungary - Rocco
14 America - Shenker
15 Canada - Chakour
16 Croatia - Pirner
17 Luxembourg - Sven
18 Germany - Timo
19 Greece - 2zef
20 Japan - Hirokazu
21 Mauritius - Zahiir
22 Venezuela - a10s
23 Finland - (there's this farmerboy that freestyles in his garage, someone please copy this and edit this)
24 Russia - 4emovek
25 South-corea - JK (not sure where all those asians come from)
26 China - Riodavid
27 New Zealand - Graeson
28 Jupiter - Skora
29 Hong Kong - Fai
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who would be the judges i have chose 3 so far, abdullah , mr . woo and diego armando maradona
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1 GB - JF
2 Ireland - Nam
3 France - Matmat
4 Sweden - Palle
5 Australia - BevS
6 Brazil - Pedro
7 Spain - NeN
8 Norway - Tobias
9 Holland - 2zani
10 Italy - Enry
11 Poland - Szymo
12 Belguim - Filip
13 Hungary - Rocco
14 America - Shenker
15 Canada - Chakour
16 Croatia - Pirner
17 Luxembourg - Sven
18 Germany - Timo
19 Greece - 2zef
20 Japan - Hirokazu
21 Mauritius - Zahiir
22 Venezuela - a10s
23 Finland - (there's this farmerboy that freestyles in his garage, someone please copy this and edit this)
24 Russia - 4emovek
25 South-corea - JK (not sure where all those asians come from)
26 China - Riodavid
27 New Zealand - Graeson
28 Hong Kong - Fai
29 Mexico - Javo
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1 GB - JF
2 Ireland - Nam
3 France - Matmat
4 Sweden - Palle
5 Australia - BevS
6 Brazil - Pedro
7 Spain - NeN
8 Norway - Tobias
9 Holland - 2zani
10 Italy - Enry
11 Poland - Szymo
12 Belguim - Filip
13 Hungary - Rocco
14 America - Shenker
15 Canada - Chakour
16 Croatia - Pirner
17 Luxembourg - Sven
18 Germany - Timo
19 Greece - 2zef
20 Japan - Hirokazu
21 Mauritius - Zahiir
22 Venezuela - a10s
23 Finland - (there's this farmerboy that freestyles in his garage, someone please copy this and edit this)
24 Russia - 4emovek note: he's USA ????
25 South-corea - JK (not sure where all those asians come from)
26 China - Riodavid
27 New Zealand - Graeson
28 Hong Kong - Fai
29 Mexico - Javi
30 Slovenia - MateVŽ
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1 GB - JF
2 Ireland - Nam
3 France - Matmat
4 Sweden - Palle
5 Australia - BevS
6 Brazil - Pedro
7 Spain - NeN
8 Norway - Tobias
9 Holland - 2zani
10 Italy - Enry
11 Poland - Szymo
12 Belguim - Filip
13 Hungary - Rocco
14 America - Shenker
15 Canada - Chakour
16 Croatia - Pirner
17 Luxembourg - Sven
18 Germany - Timo
19 Greece - 2zef
20 Japan - Hirokazu
21 Mauritius - Zahiir
22 Venezuela - a10s
23 Finland - (there's this farmerboy that freestyles in his garage, someone please copy this and edit this) (2ruler is another ?)
24 Russia - 4emovek note: he's USA ???? (he is usa, there are plenty of others from russia tho, iago? meatfeast pizza?)
25 South-corea - JK (not sure where all those asians come from) (south Korea)
26 China - Riodavid
27 New Zealand - Graeson
28 Hong Kong - Fai
29 Mexico - Javi
30 Slovenia - MateVŽ
31. CZECh rep. - jan + klouda
32 india - vish
33 egypt - legend ?? or wherever he from
34. hong kong? - fai
35. south africa - kamalio or syed?
36. argentina - there are plenty.
37. morocco - cant rem. his name but lives in germany, fast groundmovers
where was one of the worlds greatest fsers from? the prick fsing in his house guy? he was from some south american country wasnt he? like venezuela?
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what about "Denmark - Brizze"?
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this is shit it is better to write 75 countries then write freestylers :S now i can't see wich one is written wich oen is not
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well why dont u think of 75countries and post itthrough my letter box :booty:
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mario there are like 250 countries, some of them we've never heard of. and we need an example of each country so there's proof that there are one from each country
maybe search on youtube: freestyle football 'country still missing' ?
1 GB - JF
2 Ireland - Nam
3 France - Matmat
4 Sweden - Palle
5 Australia - BevS
6 Brazil - Pedro
7 Spain - NeN
8 Norway - Tobias
9 Holland - 2zani
10 Italy - Enry
11 Poland - Szymo
12 Belguim - Filip
13 Hungary - Rocco
14 America - Shenker
15 Canada - Chakour
16 Croatia - Pirner
17 Luxembourg - Sven
18 Germany - Timo
19 Greece - 2zef
20 Japan - Hirokazu
21 Mauritius - Zahiir
22 Venezuela - a10s
23 Finland - (there's this farmerboy that freestyles in his garage, someone please copy this and edit this) (2ruler is another ?)
24 Russia - 4emovek note: he's USA ???? (he is usa, there are plenty of others from russia tho, iago? meatfeast pizza?)
25 South-corea - JK (not sure where all those asians come from) (south Korea)
26 China - Riodavid
27 New Zealand - Graeson
28 Hong Kong - Fai
29 Mexico - Javi
30 Slovenia - MatevŽ
31. CZECh rep. - jan + klouda
32 India - vish
33 egypt - legend ?? or wherever he from
34. hong kong? - fai
35. south africa - kamalio and syed
36. argentina - there are plenty. NAMESso add one if you know a lot
37. morocco - cant rem. his name but lives in germany, fast groundmovers
38 Denmark - Brizze
come on dudes, we just passed the halfway border and we're already struggling
btw, does chunkchenko freestyle? then we have a welch person
and can someone answer the unknown names/countries and also the ones that are not sure
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well i dont know the argies names but they used to keep spamming my youtube with fs argentina.
also where ist thiago from?
im not sure u can put chunk in cos wales counts as gb, if u want to split that up then u can have ash from wales if nec. and im sure theres some scottish faggot around somewhere?
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wales, england, northern ireland and scotland make team GB.
Team GB enter the olympics, no such thing as a welsh team in the olympics or english team. So dont put Ash - Wales.
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but those countries participate apart in the world and european cup. just like corea, that sometimes play as corea together, but sometimes south and north corea
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mario there are like 250 countries
i know but u said we need "only" 75 and yeah it's hard to write them but i will try!
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It can also be with teams, for example Polish team with 5 fsers (Szymo,skora,berno,zegan,amsti) not only single!
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It can also be with teams, for example Polish team with 5 fsers (Szymo,skora,berno,zegan,amsti) not only single!
Good idea ! :)
Sounds cool, In a future I'm sure freestyle will be in, all that's needed is more practician & reputation about it.
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It can also be with teams, for example Polish team with 5 fsers (Szymo,skora,berno,zegan,amsti) not only single!
yes then u can get 1 guy to do it on each discipline, szymo on lowers, skora on the rings, berno on parallel bars, zegan on the pommel horse, and amsti can fuck off
but yes i see what ur saying about the teamness. gd idea :thumbsup:
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15 Canada - Chakour
who is he?
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Irish Freestyle Crew would kick ass at the olympics, we got Tiernan muthafuckazzzz
we could probably finish in the top 7 or 8 if it was teams by country
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15 Canada - Chakour
who is he?
George Chakour, old school. Was in Cero 1.
Search him on the youtube. And a competition with teams sounds fucking cool, outside of the olympics. Like a eurobac, but with teams.
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Not too sound negative but there are soo many sports that would enter the olympics before freestyle.....skateboarding....futsal....cricket...indoor cricket....and sooo many more that are way more popular than freestyle and still dont make it...freestyle isnt one of those type of sports.........just like juggling or hackysack to be honest i dont think it belongs there......but then again i dont think the horse trotting belongs there either...
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Not too sound negative but there are soo many sports that would enter the olympics before freestyle.....skateboarding....futsal....cricket...indoor cricket....and sooo many more that are way more popular than freestyle and still dont make it...freestyle isnt one of those type of sports.........just like juggling or hackysack to be honest i dont think it belongs there......but then again i dont think the horse trotting belongs there either...
Maybe your right, freestyle in the Olympics is not so realistic, cause i dont think it ever will be in the Olympics. Isnt there other ways freestyle could get more known and like an international competition?
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ok now that we are on this topic it brings me to the question of
"fs in the olympics or any major competition such as the big O, would it necessary be a good thing ornot"
please leave feel free to express ur views and comments.
i personally can see it being a bad thing, and being too commercial..and ending up being like one of the commercial fsers.
or maybe taking away something special such as the individuality about the "sport /hobbie" but i dont know.
u?
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well there you have a point nedved. if it becomes too famous, it looses it's indivuality. now many of us are the only persons in a big area that can do certain things with a ball. and concurrention is never good. also, when it's becoming too commercial you'll get that people want to become pro as fast as possible, and you end up with unstylish freestylers. and you get even more spam on youtube and tournaments as BF and NAS become unclear because so ridiculously many people want to join?
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yeah i kindof agreee. i like the way barely anyone FS's and its a very unique skill... if it was in the olympics we wud have too many billy wingroves coming through
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would freestyle have to be an official sport with a governing body (like FIFA) and offical rules first?
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yeah i kindof agreee. i like the way barely anyone FS's and its a very unique skill... if it was in the olympics we wud have too many billy wingroves coming through
true, i feel like theres 2 types, commercial vs underground, and if it grew there wud be too much commercial..lose its underground.
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i reckon us to do like every 2 years a competition in a certain countrey dat freestylers can come and have battles like da polish freestylers choose a number of freestylers vs. da english freestylers(da english have to do da same thing) and etc. but we'll do da comp. in like an underground tunnel or somethin so we lk like gangstas, every team should have a certain shirt worn by da whole team!! and the winner of da comp. will be like da best nationality of freestyle till da next comp. comes, it's like da soccer worldcup but for freestyle and without fans and stuff!!! da judges could be like palle, FX, was, farnworth etc.... i mean like da professional freestylers!!! i promise it would be fun, like almost 100 team, 5 or etc. in each team havin freestyle battles wid professionals judging!! tell me wt u think bout it :cheers:
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yh like a freestyle world cup would be sikk :biggrin:
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yh like a freestyle world cup would be sikk :biggrin:
okay, spread the word :thumbsup: