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General Category => General Chat => Topic started by: oLi on Aug 08, 2008, 06:47: PM
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Pick up your local newspaper, ask a friend or google it
What do you guys think about this conflict?
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russia is just trying to prove they can do something.
they wont struggle to take a small country like georgia.
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I don't see Chechnya all over the newspapers. Russia and the west are doing a good job keeping a tight lid on its war crimes down there. I really don't care to be honest.
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I don't know...this can't bpde well because in the last 50 years or so, whenever the international balance is upset, something will happen to eventually bring it back again, often through the combined efforts of the UN, or through revolution, etc.
Russia shouldn't be doing this, but I can guarantee that they're feeling threatened by China and India, and they always have felt threatened by the USA, so they're trying to assert the remnants of their power. Stuff like this (war/weaponry related) tends to be Russia's solution to everything...at least in the past 80 years or so.
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Stupid Russians. Like that land is worth the trouble. They have plenty of shit land. They have started doing some good things over there but this is just a step back. They are privatizing most of the government controlled businesses. They should be working harder on continuing that trend rather than taking over other little poor countries.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_South_Ossetia_(2008)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121817403177323701.html?mod=hps_us_whats_news
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/004350.html
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Russia just needs a enemy to fight for. I know that because I`m from estonia.
pallur
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(The Eastern European country)
just noticed the disclaimer
i think it goes without saying
russia don't want none of this
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Gadsden_flag.svg/800px-Gadsden_flag.svg.png)
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Seriously...
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Stupid ass Russians. The Georgian president (prime minister) or whatever the hell he is was spot on with his statement. Russia needs to get the fuck out of there. Leave those people alone. I'm glad the cameras caught them beating those men well after they were handcuffed. If this escalates into anything more than this then those two countries are an even bigger joke than I initially thought. They need to calm the fuck down. What was said in that news story is not enough to start a war. :rolleyes:
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And just to show how smart the Americans are:
My parents are on vacation in Europe. They went to Germany, Bosnia and Croatia. I just got a call from my mom's employer who was worried something might have happened to them because of the "war in Russia/Georgia."
:boxing: :boxing: :boxing: :boxing: :lol:
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And just to show how smart the Americans are:
My parents are on vacation in Europe. They went to Germany, Bosnia and Croatia. I just got a call from my mom's employer who was worried something might have happened to them because of the "war in Russia/Georgia."
:boxing: :boxing: :boxing: :boxing: :lol:
Hahaha, everyone makes fun of the Americans.
I find this ridiculous, especially from a huge country like Russia.
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Seriously...
This video is old... "President" Putin.
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Since Georgia has been loyal to the U.S I wonder what the U.S will do for them now, besides call for a cease fire and condemn Rissia. :rolleyes:
Anyway the Georgian government withdrew ther troops from the region. Easy win for Russia.
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Since Georgia has been loyal to the U.S I wonder what the U.S will do for them now, besides call for a cease fire and condemn Rissia. :rolleyes:
Anyway the Georgian government withdrew ther troops from the region. Easy win for Russia.
Yeah of course it's an easy win Russia is 100 times larger in all possible ways (including assholeness)
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By the way: This whole operation was "explained" as a "peacekeeping" task in Russia. :bowdown: :lol:
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I heard the Georgians want cease fire while the Russians wont.
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Russia will cease to exist very soon, 20 more years and this country will be a 3rd world country. Well, actually it already is.
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Georgian troops are occupying Iraq. :rolleyes: Hell they deserve it. They are a bunch of cowards.
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Georgian troops are occupying Iraq. :rolleyes: Hell they deserve it. They are a bunch of cowards.
not from Russia they don't...if they deserve it from anyone, its the UN
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The UN is the biggest joke. :lol:
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The UN is the biggest joke. :lol:
What makes you say that?
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The UN is the biggest joke. :lol:
What makes you say that?
well I would say it because one of the countries that has veto power in the UN is Russia, so the worst the UN could do is place a trade embargo on Russia or something. I doubt they could send in a peace force.
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Just keep the war going... This will make others turn away from russia.
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Just keep the war going... This will make others turn away from russia.
...and sacrifice how many innocent lives?
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hahaha, your TV showed a video when georgian reporters was filming russian tanks and other war machines, but then George said that russian are killing all friendship people!!! and what?!?!? why they don't kill some gergian reporter while he's filming them?! maybe because russian don't want to kill somebody?! georgian president is asslicking Bush's ass and that's all... it will end soon
sorry for bad english
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Just keep the war going... This will make others turn away from russia.
...and sacrifice how many innocent lives?
Dude, the "sacrifices" in this war are not as big as they are in russia, when a bunch of georgians cross the border.
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hahaha, your TV showed a video when georgian reporters was filming russian tanks and other war machines, but then George said that russian are killing all friendship people!!! and what?!?!? why they don't kill some gergian reporter while he's filming them?! maybe because russian don't want to kill somebody?! georgian president is asslicking Bush's ass and that's all... it will end soon
sorry for bad english
What video? lol This video is old.
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Just keep the war going... This will make others turn away from russia.
...and sacrifice how many innocent lives?
Dude, the "sacrifices" in this war are not as big as they are in russia, when a bunch of georgians cross the border.
I'm talking about both Georgians and Russians :rolleyes:
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Just keep the war going... This will make others turn away from russia.
...and sacrifice how many innocent lives?
Dude, the "sacrifices" in this war are not as big as they are in russia, when a bunch of georgians cross the border.
I'm talking about both Georgians and Russians :rolleyes:
And me too, what I'm saying is: They kill each other a lot more and in larger scales when they're at peace anyway.
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hmm, I've seen it just yesterday ;) yeah, yeah, give me new video, and why all alive people from Osetiya were sent to russian town Vladikavkaz?!
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Go to some BBC channel or something.
And answer this: Is the invasion justified? (And yes, it IS an ivasion, no matter how you put it)
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and then go to any russian channel and watch what it shows... and don's tell that 'russian channels show what Russian needs more'... I can tell the same about BBC (because, anyway, Bush and Georgia in friendship now, against Russia)
and why Georgia invases to Osetiya?! for what?! and what (in your opinion) georgians soldiers do in Osetiya?! they rescue Osetiya from russian?! but, why at night (8 to 9 August) we could see georgian's attack to Osetiya by 'Grad'?! it wasn't russian for sure
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Russian television is a joke.
It's a part of Georgia. Russia had NO right to make an invasion. For the same reason China, USA or any other country could bomb you for "invading" Chechnya.
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USA television is a joke, hmm, not right?
They have right to be peaceful army, hmm, ok, try to explain for what so Russia's done it? if 'done'...
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No, not right. Russian Media is controlled by the government. Check this:
http://vkontakte.ru/video-3257203_71241068
Peaceful army? How the fuck are they peaceful?
And what has russia done? Are you another one of the 140 million zombies? They entered ANOTHER country, claiming to be the peacekeepers they've bombed and killed a lot of people. Even after the georgian army had retreated they still didn't leave.
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emogirl, your opinion is controlled by your thinks about Russia even before its incident... like mine's about USA...it's stupid to continue a discussion
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Muahahaha exactly, you just aren't able to continue this discussion, since there's nothing you can say.
My opinion is MY opinion and it's not controlled by anything.
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Muahahaha exactly, you just aren't able to continue this discussion, since there's nothing you can say.
My opinion is MY opinion and it's not controlled by anything.
you can think whatever you want about me, but in this situation I have what to say, but I know, that it'll end with nothing...
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Muahahaha exactly, you just aren't able to continue this discussion, since there's nothing you can say.
My opinion is MY opinion and it's not controlled by anything.
you can think whatever you want about me, but in this situation I have what to say, but I know, that it'll end with nothing...
With nothing? Well, your reputation has been affected by this "war", you've been losing your allies at a very speedy rate: Ukraine, Georgia, Belorus...
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I've said it about our discussion...
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Yeah, you can hide from the reality behind your iron curtain like you did 30 years ago.
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and finally, don't unite army and government with other people in Russia who don't decide anything... it's like to say that all georgian are shit and stupid because their president and army have done it...
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Are you saying russians are nice people? You, personally you, are a shit person, who selfcontradicts all the time.
And what did the georgian president/army do?
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the most of them - not (like me)...
I can say about you the same because I don't like you, personally
and YOUR opinion IS controlled by YOUR thinks about Russia even before this situation... like mine's are... and don't say that 'no'
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Okay I'm viewing the situation here from a neutral perspective and I'm saying that Russia is clearly in the WRONG
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Wow, next time PM eachother! :saywhat:
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Wow, next time PM eachother! :saywhat:
why? the discussion is relevant.
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heh, Tom Clancy predict it, but he said that it'd be in 2004 ;) by the word only, and he said that it'll end with georgian president's death by american army...
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And what did the georgian president/army do?
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and YOUR opinion IS controlled by YOUR thinks about Russia even before this situation... like mine's are... and don't say that 'no'
I've given you reasons why russia is wrong, it doesn't have anything to do with what I think about your shithole.
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don't repeat, I've answered it by that phrase, MY opinion - all what you think Russia do, Georgia do...
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Wow, next time PM eachother! :saywhat:
why? the discussion is relevant.
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True, nevermind.
I just find that repeated posts by the same 2 members makes me really bored. Especially if they go on and on.
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Russia is suchhhhhhhhhhhhhh........... A PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!! Russia is for fags ha haaaaaaaaaa yeah :cursing:
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Russia is suchhhhhhhhhhhhhh........... A PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!! Russia is for fags ha haaaaaaaaaa yeah :cursing:
To be honest USA has a bigger procentage of homosexual people. But I agree, russia's nothing more than what you've described it as.
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The UN is the biggest joke. :lol:
What makes you say that?
Because the UN is just the U.S with a mask on. Plus what is the most they can do? impose trade embargoes and sanctions. Honestly they are extremely irrelevant and corrupt. Food for oil programs WTF? Exploiting desperate countries trading expensive oil for wheat. Not to mention sexual misconduct by ''peace keepers''. They are a tool for the West to get the green light to go after people they don't like.
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russian 'peace keepers' were there because of United Nations, watch TV...
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Are they peace keepers?
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Evidently it's peace now or something? :dontknow:
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Are they peace keepers?
yes, they are peace keepers, and they are there because of UN... they didn't use any weapons until georgians start...
yes, it's peace now
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Peace keepers idealy protect and defend. Don't worry, it's peace now, but someday your shithole will be bombed.
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Peace keepers idealy protect and defend. Don't worry, it's peace now, but someday your shithole will be bombed.
They did it until georgians army started to bomb it etc etc...
heh, u said it as you are president of USA...
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Putin TV, huh? They were attacking eventually, not defending.
If I was you wouldn't have a place to live by now. :rockit:
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Putin TV, huh? They were attacking eventually, not defending.
If I was you wouldn't have a place to live by now. :rockit:
hmm, nice-nice... BBC TV? USA needs in it, they give to you such information that they want that you believe them... hmm, maybe your TV doesn't show any films from Georgia where georgians say about their president some words...
but u'll never be so shut up
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Ok, I have Canadian newspapers, and Russia was way out of bounds doing this....I smell indoctrination :cursing:
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Russia wasn't OUT of bounds until there weren't any war actions...
sorry for english
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Russia wasn't OUT of bounds until there weren't any war actions...
sorry for english
so you're saying that Russia should still be bombing Georgia? :angry:
Jeeze they did a good job on you :saywhat: :lol:
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oh, sorry, I didn't understand you :rolleyes:
and they never bombed it
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oh, sorry, I didn't understand you :rolleyes:
and they never bombed it
uhhhh....yes they did :rolleyes:
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hmm, if you thibk so, then try to explain - for what?
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Putin TV, huh? They were attacking eventually, not defending.
If I was you wouldn't have a place to live by now. :rockit:
hmm, nice-nice... BBC TV? USA needs in it, they give to you such information that they want that you believe them... hmm, maybe your TV doesn't show any films from Georgia where georgians say about their president some words...
but u'll never be so shut up
It's been talked over 1000's of times. My advice to you: Throw away your computer, throw away your player, and live behind the iron curtain, cause that's where you belong.
I won't, but it doesn't matter, all of you are going to die out within 50-60 years.
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Russia wasn't OUT of bounds until there weren't any war actions...
sorry for english
so you're saying that Russia should still be bombing Georgia? :angry:
Jeeze they did a good job on you :saywhat: :lol:
90% of russians are like that. That explains my hatred towards them.
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what's been talked about 1000 times? that russian TV is controlled by government? the same can be say about USA TV and any TV in the world when the goverment wants to hide something from people...
you are too confident...
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No, there are independed stations in most of the countries, except yours. American TV showed everything about Iraq, that's one of the reasons there are so many people here who are against the war. Tell me: Why did Politkovskaja die?
And reasonable, just wait and see. Moscow isn't even russian anymore, there more immigrants than russians living there. People on the streets are dying of hunger, that shit would never happen in America, since the governemnt actually cares about their citizens, but what do they get in russia? Right, they're put in jails, beaten up by some drunk cops or killed.
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Francais were confident that Russia started it, but some time ago they understood that Georgia started... It was shown at russian TV, and don't say that it's lie again, russian government made a figure of francais agent and put it in a film with voice?
have you seen american man who was rescued into North Osetiya? and what did he say about Georgia and G.Bush?
it's not only in Russia, it's on several countries in Europe and many countries in South too... soon, there will be USA and China only...
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How about you give us a link?
There are many russians who support the U.S. and not russia, so the last argument doesn't count for shit.
We're talking about you and your country though, so don't be going off topic. 50 years and you'll be an oil providing nation, nothing more.
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I saw it on russian TV
who? where did you find it?
we're talking about crysis in South Osetiya, but someone started to go offtopic some time ago :rolleyes:
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And we all know what it's like.
Everywhere, even on russian facebook.
We're discussing your country, you started talking about other countries. Plus a war always fucks up a country a little bit, so it's just another step.
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yeah, russian are got some chav, then put clothes on him, give translator and he said all what government needs in... just kidding
hmm? then there as 'many' as americans who knows that it's plan of G.Bush and Saakashvilli
hmm, very brave step writing that 'russia will be bombed', where did you see it? you said it so confident, so it seems it's written everywhere
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Fuck... Take english classes lol. Anyway: russia invaded Georgia, how is that a Bush/Saakashvili plan? I don't think Georgia is interested in being bombed.
Either bombed or what I've said above. Plus there will most likely be some other terror acts in russia, like Beslan and Nord Ost, then your president will explode a couple of houses, like Putin did in 1999, to start another war. I'll be LMAOing if one of the houses is yours :lol: :lol:
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heh, I've just read that americans amd georgians armies took a 'training for war' 11th August, and american captive said it, he was in convoy with georgians... not in being bombed, Georgia needs to be in NATO(in russian), so they need to have Abhaziya and Osetiya, but with its army they can't, so they need some 'friend' who could help them, and Georgia was chosed by G.Bush and USA, because G.Bush can help them, instead he will have a place for his army to have control in Eastern part of Europe, he needs in it, of course... that's all plan, it's obviously...
I will lmao too...
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2adi: how can you say:Stupid Russians....Stupid ass Russians.???????????????????????????????????? you dont know nothing about this conflict!!!!!!!! you are disinformated!!! id like to go to your fucking texas and break your face and all your bones because of your words!!!!!! and what about usa, this country have not history, have not culture!!! do you know that 60% of american congressmen and senators have never had extern passports!! hahahahahahahahhaah!!! soooooo stupid government!hahahahahha! sooo stupid nation!
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2Leha: Where did you hear that they were training FOR WAR? Georgian soldiers are trained by americans, that's true. They're trained to selfdefend. And what do you mean by the have to have Abkhazia and Osetia?
Abkhazia:
The international organizations such as United Nations (28 Security Council Resolutions), EU, OSCE, NATO, WTO, Council of the European Union, CIS as well as most sovereign states recognize Abkhazia as an integral part of Georgia and support its territorial integrity according to the principles of the international law. The United Nations are urging both sides to settle the dispute through diplomatic dialogue and ratifying the final status of Abkhazia in the Georgian constitution.[8][9] However, the Abkhaz de-facto government considers Abkhazia a sovereign country, even though it is not recognized by any party in the world and is still populated with ethnic Georgians. - This makes it a part of Georgia, doesn't it?
Same with Osetia. So this basically means that they belong to Georgia.
If they wanted to control that part that badly they would have choosen Ukraine. It's called politics, and there's nothing wrong with.
I'm afraid you won't.
As for the last post: You have just seen a typical russian redneck right in front of you.
USA haS its history, USA haS its culture. American music is the most listened to music in the world, same with the movies. American constitution has been stable for over decades and is used in most countries.
And what about your culture? For most of you the Victory day is another reason to get drunk.
As for the stupid government: This government managed to turn most of your ex-friends against you, this governemnt managed to maintain the world's strongest economy for years, even Bush couldn't ruin it.
As for the stupid nation: America has more Nobel Prize laureates than any other nation in the world, american colleges are one of the best ones in the world, if not the best.
If it wasn't for the U.S. this world wouldn't have a lot of the things, that you are now using.
P.S. I'm glad you posted this, since now people on here will see that I wasn't lying about russians. As for you, you can start using your translator, since you've lied about your english skills as I can tell. What about the other language that you said you can speak? Are you even more advanced at it? :lol: :bowdown:
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if Abkhazia doesn't want to be a part of Georgia, so they won't, but Georgia want, so they have to take it by army, by war.
hmm, South Osetiya is almost all populated by russians, by your logic, it must be part of Russia, and this is one more reason why russian army was there...
they can't take Ukraine, Ukraine depends on Russia for a little, but they need in powerfull 'friend' who's very influence in the world, and USA took Georgia as 'pawn'...
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It doesn't matter what they want. What if Sakhalin or Kaliningrad want independence? Is Russia going to let them go? Of course not. Same here.
The population was part of it, the maing reason is: It's not recongnized as an independent republic/state/country or whatever else you may call it.
Oh yes they can, and they already did.
but they need in powerfull 'friend' who's very influence in the world, and USA took Georgia as 'pawn'... - I don't see the connection.
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Sakhalin and Kaliningrad is never taken like countries, but Abkhazia is last time, and 2 small regions can't alive without country they belong, but Abkhazia not small, it's large enough and has all they need for living without Georgia...
was and are now, but it isn't recognized as a part of Georgia.
very perspective ally Ukraine :rolleyes: they are angry at Russian because of gas, which they want to get for almost free
UN is taken place in USA, USA have many technical companies, very big army with great weapons, which Ukraine and Georgia haven't
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The Russians have warend that the US and any other Western country that wants to get involved are playing a very dangarous game. Next thing you know America rules out militry action but says Russias actions might damage US Russian relations. :lol: