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Title: Capello is your new man
Post by: Adi on Dec 13, 2007, 05:53: PM
Capello has the England job!

Not much of a surprise. To be honest, Mourinho would have been the best man for the job but he's too good to settle for a national team job at this stage of his career.

I think Capello will make England a dangerous team. He'll get them tactically sorted and the players should respect him. I see England in the semi-finals of the World Cup with him... that is with a bit of luck. No matter who you have, you'll always need a bit of that.

Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Urban_freestyler on Dec 13, 2007, 08:32: PM
it will be good for the players getting the respect from capello, he will make us a winning team but looks like its going to be the typical italian style with building the defense, putting a holding midfielder in front of the bk four.

overall gd apointment for the team, hopefully he will get the best out of the players.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: riodavid on Dec 13, 2007, 09:03: PM
I think Cappello have an different style which does not fit England very well, see how he deal with Owen&Beckham in Madrid.  Hope both of them can change and make the chemical reaction happen.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: M4R10 on Dec 14, 2007, 01:33: AM
haha stil Croatia is better  ;D peace
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Chunkchenko on Dec 14, 2007, 01:54: AM
damn it i knew i should have betted money on him being next manager.

with his previous records and achievements i cant see him failing. hopefully he can stop all the new crap england songs which have 66 remarks in 3 years time.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Zlatan on Dec 14, 2007, 04:34: AM
Meh, the fans will turn against him VERY quickly. All his teams are very boring. He got so lucky at Madrid, otherwise he did a mediocre job. I still think Shearer or someone like that would have been a better pick at this time.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Megakid on Dec 14, 2007, 04:44: AM
Capello Will Definetly Change England (He Changed Madrid In A Small Amount Of Time  "With The Way They Play").. Well My Friend And I Had A Idea Lol Its Bizzare, "Get All The England Squad In A Club So That They Can Play Every Week With Each Other" Because For Example Lampard - Gerrard [Chelsea And Liverpool] Two Teams Which Play Soo Different Liverpool Is More Into Passing Were As Chelsea Are More Into Crosses..Now I See Why England Arent Showing There Talent As Much Later;).
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: oLi on Dec 14, 2007, 06:13: AM
I'm not really into football but this is rather interesting. I believe he could make a lot of good things for England's national football team and give them the results they deserve
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Finnery on Dec 14, 2007, 09:59: PM
The England team is just a mess at the moment, hopefully he can sort em out, but we don't have a great deal of potential (player wise) unfortunately imo.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Bow on Dec 15, 2007, 02:20: AM
we will start well the quality for the wolrd cup...just, win the first game in the group the draw the 2nd 2, and we will eventually be knocked out by portugal and penos.....which will invovle some form of cheating
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Adi on Dec 15, 2007, 08:47: AM
England better hurry up while they still have their stars. They will soon get too old and the youth will have to take over. Unfortunately, I don't think England's youth is anything special. Other top teams are doing a better job bringing up young players. I think this is because Premiership teams are looking to foreign talent and not developing their youth enough. Germany made this exact mistake and paid for it during the late 90s. Germany can still win though in big tournament unlike England who struggles with their best line-ups. It's really the next World Cup that's going to show where England is. If they don't do well, don't be shocked to see them become an average team with their future youth.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Megakid on Dec 15, 2007, 08:51: AM
England better hurry up while they still have their stars. They will soon get too old and the youth will have to take over. Unfortunately, I don't think England's youth is anything special. Other top teams are doing a better job bringing up young players. I think this is because Premiership teams are looking to foreign talent and not developing their youth enough. Germany made this exact mistake and paid for it during the late 90s. Germany can still win though in big tournament unlike England who struggles with their best line-ups. It's really the next World Cup that's going to show where England is. If they don't do well, don't be shocked to see them become an average team with their future youth.

Good point Adi, and if England want to have any success anywhere they got to pass much muchh more then usual they play exactly like horrible Bolton:Cross,Cross,Cross ::).

Team which has an excellent passing play -->Example: Brazil. Great team full of youths--> Example:Arsenal Hehe,  :)
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: riodavid on Dec 16, 2007, 12:44: AM
(http://botu.bokee.com/photodata1/2007-12-16/011/060/438/12740579/12740579_h.jpg)
These 5 guys failed,haha
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 16, 2007, 11:12: PM
England will be fine, we just need time, and bringing in Capello will help surely.

 :)
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Chunkchenko on Dec 16, 2007, 11:17: PM
England will be fine, we just need time, and bringing in Capello will help surely.

 :)

rumour is that capello is going to be paid from a region of £4.5 to £6.5 million a year which would make him the highest paid manager ever in the UK, mourinho was getting £5 mil in his last season.

too much money for an international manager imo.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Tito on Dec 17, 2007, 02:08: PM
Good pick, but England will still struggle
(http://botu.bokee.com/photodata1/2007-12-16/011/060/438/12740579/12740579_h.jpg)
These 5 guys failed,haha
is that beckham lol  :lol:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Megakid on Dec 18, 2007, 03:04: AM
Yeh thats Beckham Tito, i dont think he failed tho :down:.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: riodavid on Dec 18, 2007, 03:55: AM
Yeh thats Beckham Tito, i dont think he failed tho :down:.
look at the pic carefully you will find this is the bet rate(is it?I don't know how to say it.Just like the probability in one bet) of the new England manager. Beckham was picked in the list by bet companies. So I say these 5 guys are failed to be the new England manager.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Megakid on Dec 18, 2007, 06:04: AM
Yeh thats Beckham Tito, i dont think he failed tho :down:.
look at the pic carefully you will find this is the bet rate(is it?I don't know how to say it.Just like the probability in one bet) of the new England manager. Beckham was picked in the list by bet companies. So I say these 5 guys are failed to be the new England manager.

Ohh i get you, i just thought you were talking about his performance's on the pitch :bang:.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Chunkchenko on Dec 18, 2007, 09:53: AM
Yeh thats Beckham Tito, i dont think he failed tho :down:.
look at the pic carefully you will find this is the bet rate(is it?I don't know how to say it.Just like the probability in one bet) of the new England manager. Beckham was picked in the list by bet companies. So I say these 5 guys are failed to be the new England manager.

Ohh i get you, i just thought you were talking about his performance's on the pitch :bang:.

you can say the same about sam allerdyce after his really gay jog across the pitch last weekend.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: riodavid on Dec 18, 2007, 10:16: AM
Yeh thats Beckham Tito, i dont think he failed tho :down:.
look at the pic carefully you will find this is the bet rate(is it?I don't know how to say it.Just like the probability in one bet) of the new England manager. Beckham was picked in the list by bet companies. So I say these 5 guys are failed to be the new England manager.

Ohh i get you, i just thought you were talking about his performance's on the pitch :bang:.
I love David! He is a real gentleman.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 19, 2007, 06:32: AM
England will be fine, we just need time, and bringing in Capello will help surely.

 :)

rumour is that capello is going to be paid from a region of £4.5 to £6.5 million a year which would make him the highest paid manager ever in the UK, mourinho was getting £5 mil in his last season.

too much money for an international manager imo.
Way too much, would seem fine if they were in the Euro..
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Tito on Dec 19, 2007, 06:02: PM
theres no cure for cancer or England
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: moby on Dec 19, 2007, 09:04: PM
theres no cure for cancer or England

perfectly said. england are simply not good enough. thats it.  :booty:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 19, 2007, 11:43: PM
My elite group of England haters are back together.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 20, 2007, 07:51: AM
theres no cure for cancer or England

perfectly said. england are simply not good enough. thats it.  :booty:
Funny duckling. You just wait and see.. semi-finals for sure in the WC.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Dec 20, 2007, 08:29: AM
Only if they can replicate their Euro qualifying form.

 :fart:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Tito on Dec 20, 2007, 08:39: AM
theres no cure for cancer or England

perfectly said. england are simply not good enough. thats it.  :booty:
Funny duckling. You just wait and see.. semi-finals for sure in the WC.
yes Borg your right but they will get knocked out by Canada who will beat Zimbabwe in the final  :lol:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 20, 2007, 08:39: AM
Bringing Capello in will motivate them a lot, and they're under a lot pressure.. they'll do their best, cause if not, Capello won't take shit, he'll call up the people that will play for their nation, not money.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Chunkchenko on Dec 20, 2007, 09:41: AM
Bringing Capello in will motivate them a lot, and they're under a lot pressure.. they'll do their best, cause if not, Capello won't take shit, he'll call up the people that will play for their nation, not money.

so true, but he needs to learn how to speak english first  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 20, 2007, 09:49: AM
Yeah well, they'll be so scared of him talking in Italian they'll know what he means.. plus, Italians have hand signals for everything.. (Russell Peters).
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Dec 20, 2007, 10:10: AM
He just needs to scream and kick some things.  People tend to be able to get their point across in anger.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Tito on Dec 20, 2007, 10:13: AM
England is over rated borg
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: moby on Dec 20, 2007, 10:30: AM
theres no cure for cancer or England

perfectly said. england are simply not good enough. thats it.  :booty:
Funny duckling. You just wait and see.. semi-finals for sure in the WC.
yes Borg your right but they will get knocked out by Canada who will beat Zimbabwe in the final  :lol:

couldn't stop laughing lol

hahah chunck thats true have you heard him trying to speak english.

i (ten second pause) will (another pause) spaek english in (pause) six weeks. hahah
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Tito on Dec 20, 2007, 10:34: AM
theres no cure for cancer or England

perfectly said. england are simply not good enough. thats it.  :booty:
Funny duckling. You just wait and see.. semi-finals for sure in the WC.
yes Borg your right but they will get knocked out by Canada who will beat Zimbabwe in the final  :lol:

couldn't stop laughing lol
the truth had to be said
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: moby on Dec 20, 2007, 10:36: AM
hahah so true
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 20, 2007, 10:37: AM
England is over rated borg

No, they're overpaid.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Chunkchenko on Dec 20, 2007, 11:10: AM
England is over rated borg

No, they're overpayed.

so true they can play world class for their clubs but dont give a shit about their nation anymore. capello will definetly get the players to be more focused he isnt affraid to drop the big name players to get the results.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Dec 20, 2007, 11:11: AM
Seriously, if Norn Ireland can put up a fight, England can qualify.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 20, 2007, 11:12: AM
Exactly, the previous managers kept the bigger names because they were probably afraid of the media.. Capello won't do that at all.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: moby on Dec 20, 2007, 06:57: PM
we will have to wait and see. but i doubt england will show results even with cappello as coach. there best achivement will be to quilyfie for the world cup :santa:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 20, 2007, 08:12: PM
All around the world there is so much England ball licking going on. If Netherlands or lets say France (both better than England Internationally) had failed to make it to a major competition everyone would have been like 'oh they are so shit'. But because its England everyone wants to make excuses and blame the manager or come up with all kinds of theories on what went wrong. In reality England are nothing more than average they have always been. Camon besides a few triumphs in the past what have they done?

The way the media and people portray England is as if they are almost like Brazil but just never play to their potential thats bull. From when you first start watching football you are told England are the best country and Manchester and Liverpool are the best clubs in the world.

Don't get me wrong when I first started following football in 96 I was backing England and Liverpool where one of the 3 teams I supported. But over the years I realized how overrated these fellas are.

Arguably the premier league is the best league in the world, so tell me why are these Premier league teams not winning the Champions league and Uefa cup as often as teams from Seria A and La Liga are? and if England is so good why are they not wining any major competitions?

What make the PL so good is the talented players coming in from all around the world and even then they don't stand much of a chance against other big teams from La Liga and Seria A they play a more superior and technical brand of football  (no matter how boring it may seem to you).   
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Dec 21, 2007, 04:58: AM
English hype machine  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Adi on Dec 21, 2007, 05:13: AM
Not disagreeing with the majority of what you said melbourne, but recall the time when Netherlands failed to qualify for the World Cup. People thought less of them but nobody said they were shit. Some made excuses but the reality was they underperformed.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: BigMac on Dec 21, 2007, 10:29: AM
we have very good players, but all together, as a team, we are useless just doesnt work, its crap being an england fan.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 21, 2007, 10:52: AM
we have very good players, but all together, as a team, we are useless just doesnt work, its crap being an england fan.
Exactly, we just can't play as a team.. and the damn players don't play for the pride and joy of England.. they play for money.  :bang:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: BigMac on Dec 21, 2007, 11:07: AM
we have very good players, but all together, as a team, we are useless just doesnt work, its crap being an england fan.
Exactly, we just can't play as a team.. and the damn players don't play for the pride and joy of England.. they play for money.  :bang:

your english?
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 21, 2007, 11:11: AM
Nope. I'm a mysterious Canadian that's in love with England.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Tito on Dec 21, 2007, 11:50: AM
oh i get it your one of those countries that are the bitches of both England and America you should've said so  :hello:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: moby on Dec 21, 2007, 02:00: PM
the thing is england are shit. as melbourne said the media make england look good but they simply aren't
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 21, 2007, 03:45: PM
Moby I just want to give your 600 pound plus body frame a hug right now but I couldn't possibly get my hands around it..
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Megakid on Dec 21, 2007, 06:49: PM
the thing is england are shit. as melbourne said the media make england look good but they simply aren't

You might aswell add the newspapers also the internet to that list ^-^.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 22, 2007, 03:51: AM
They do come under the category of media friend.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 22, 2007, 04:15: AM
oh i get it your one of those countries that are the bitches of both England and America you should've said so  :hello:

Haha you got that right.  ;)
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Adi on Dec 22, 2007, 06:00: AM
the thing is england are shit.

Come on... let's not get ridiculous now. England is not shit. They are still a good team with a lot of potential. With the right manager now, they should be OK. Their first test will be against Switzerland in February. Don't think that's an easy game because Switzerland plays well in all tournaments.

No matter how good of a team you are, even the likes of Brazil, Italy, France, etc still feel discomfort when facing England. That alone shows they are not shit. I know you are probably exaggerating, I'm just saying all this in case you're not.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 22, 2007, 06:04: AM
I think England plays better when they face bigger teams, .. such as that game against Brazil.. England did really well that game.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Chunkchenko on Dec 22, 2007, 07:38: AM
i remember when holland failed to qualify for the world cup, i think another major nation did that year aswell.

i kind of do agree with the PL too many english fans look at other clubs especially italian teams as being weak when italy won the world cup during all the match fixing scandals with a team that all played in serie a.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Megakid on Dec 22, 2007, 07:40: AM
I think England plays better when they face bigger teams, .. such as that game against Brazil.. England did really well that game.

I think that was their most recent success none others :'(
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Adi on Dec 22, 2007, 08:24: AM
That's a sign of a team that has a shit load of potential, not a team that is shit.

If you can play with the big boys and instill fear into them, you have something to work with. Capello is going to help England fix the motivational problems they are having when facing weaker teams. The only issue I see with Capello is the lack of creativity. Sometimes you need creativity to break down those weak teams that just sit back and defend with 11 men.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 22, 2007, 04:22: PM
Fabregas made a great comment the other day, and it is that English players do not play outside of England (very rarely anyway). How else will players bring different elements to thier game? For me, it is all about bringing in players with different skills, qualities, and expiriences and putting it together. Don't take players that are all based on the same game. Look:

Rooney - EPL
Lampard - EPL
Gerrard - EPL
Neville - EPL
Rio - EPL
Cashley - EPL

lets see...

Ronaldo - La Liga, Serie A
Ronaldinho - La liga
Gilberto - EPL
Vagner Love - Russian League
Robinho - La liga


See, i know you're thinking "well these brasilian players started in brasil.." you're right. but then they moved on...they all went to different parts of the continent, thus picking up different styles, not keeping the same style of play. I'm not saying that you're national team should have players that DO NOT play in the country; it is good to have players playing in your country, of course. But all of them? I don't think so. Even the USA is picking up on this. Having our playrs stay in the MLS is a big mistake, yes of course because the MLS is not a great league..but also, our players will be able to pick up different qualities, look at Beasley in Scotland, Dempsey in England, Freddy in Portugal.

England just needs some variation in players..thats all they need. It's not about Capello or Mourinho...to me, it all boils down to the players abilities and ability to play with each other with skills that compliment each other.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: BigMac on Dec 22, 2007, 04:25: PM
your a fucking genius!

and i have always wondered why english players dont go aborad, i can only think of a few beckham, ince, lineker, keegan and gascoigne.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 22, 2007, 04:31: PM
I applaud Beckham so much for what he's done with Madrid. He had the highlife at Manchester United and he took a gamble. Ask Rooney to take a gamble like that, i bet he'll never leave England to try something new. It's all about trying different things, gaining new skills, training in different ways, with different tactics and people. Then we will seee England winning a Euro (or at least qualifying for one.... :dontknow:)
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: BigMac on Dec 22, 2007, 04:34: PM
I applaud Beckham so much for what he's done with Madrid. He had the highlife at Manchester United and he took a gamble. Ask Rooney to take a gamble like that, i bet he'll never leave England to try something new. It's all about trying different things, gaining new skills, training in different ways, with different tactics and people. Then we will seee England winning a Euro (or at least qualifying for one.... :dontknow:)

i think there was other reasons for beckham leaving united, like falling out with fergie, and when you fall out with him its his decision if you stay or not.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 22, 2007, 04:35: PM
True. But still, he could have easily signed with any team in England.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: BigMac on Dec 22, 2007, 04:42: PM
True. But still, he could have easily signed with any team in England.

Abroad was best for him, if he stayed in england it could of ruined him with all the media, i know he wil get media wherever he is on earth but the english media is tough, and united were the biggest team in England, anywhere else would of been a step down imo, abroad was his only option i think.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 22, 2007, 04:44: PM
There are funny videos of Beckham fending off the media in Spain.

"Que pasa TU!?"

jaja..
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 22, 2007, 10:52: PM
Fabregas made a great comment the other day, and it is that English players do not play outside of England (very rarely anyway). How else will players bring different elements to thier game? For me, it is all about bringing in players with different skills, qualities, and expiriences and putting it together. Don't take players that are all based on the same game. Look:

Rooney - EPL
Lampard - EPL
Gerrard - EPL
Neville - EPL
Rio - EPL
Cashley - EPL

lets see...

Ronaldo - La Liga, Serie A
Ronaldinho - La liga
Gilberto - EPL
Vagner Love - Russian League
Robinho - La liga


See, i know you're thinking "well these brasilian players started in brasil.." you're right. but then they moved on...they all went to different parts of the continent, thus picking up different styles, not keeping the same style of play. I'm not saying that you're national team should have players that DO NOT play in the country; it is good to have players playing in your country, of course. But all of them? I don't think so. Even the USA is picking up on this. Having our playrs stay in the MLS is a big mistake, yes of course because the MLS is not a great league..but also, our players will be able to pick up different qualities, look at Beasley in Scotland, Dempsey in England, Freddy in Portugal.

England just needs some variation in players..thats all they need. It's not about Capello or Mourinho...to me, it all boils down to the players abilities and ability to play with each other with skills that compliment each other.

Look at Italy only 4 players out of the 27 in the current squad play abroad and that how its usually been. Yet they are only 1 world cup short of Brazil. They usually put out and all Seria A based squad and still win.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 22, 2007, 11:56: PM
True. I guess English players are just bad...
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 23, 2007, 12:03: AM
http://www.4thegame.com/club/portsmouth-fc/news/212157/fa_no_english_candidates.html  :hello:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 23, 2007, 12:15: AM
Its that fucking hight tempo kick and gol English style. The same style that makes their league so entertaining is the same style that lets them down against others who play a more technical game.  Its like the players where told not to dribble or hold on to the ball, mostly long balls and just getting the ball to the forwards with one cross and expecting them to finish.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Megakid on Dec 23, 2007, 02:11: AM
I just hope England dont put Gerrard and Lampard together in the middle that would never work things out :-[
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 23, 2007, 02:40: AM
To be honest, England needs to get rid of:

Lampard
Gerrard
Beckham
A. Cole
Rooney
Crouch


Players that need to play:

David Bentley
Leighton Baines
Gabriel Agbonlahor
Luke Moore
Theo Walcott

Get some youth and speed into this team. These players also like to dribble, and can dribble well. England needs more skillful players on the field.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: riodavid on Dec 23, 2007, 02:44: AM
To be honest, England needs to get rid of:

Lampard
Gerrard
Beckham
A. Cole
Rooney
Crouch


Players that need to play:

David Bentley
Leighton Baines
Gabriel Agbonlahor
Luke Moore
Theo Walcott

Get some youth and speed into this team. These players also like to dribble, and can dribble well. England needs more skillful players on the field.
It is a decent squad for 2010 or further more.
But why not Rooney?
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Megakid on Dec 23, 2007, 02:53: AM
To be honest, England needs to get rid of:

Lampard
Gerrard
Beckham
A. Cole
Rooney
Crouch


Players that need to play:

David Bentley
Leighton Baines
Gabriel Agbonlahor
Luke Moore
Theo Walcott

Get some youth and speed into this team. These players also like to dribble, and can dribble well. England needs more skillful players on the field.

Yep just like arsenal, they prooved everyone wrong with their performances this season :o
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 23, 2007, 05:28: AM
Leave Rooney and Ashley Cole in..
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Megakid on Dec 23, 2007, 07:04: AM
Leave Rooney and Ashley Cole in..

Leave Rooney, not Cashley cole tho, i really dislike that guy :angry:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 23, 2007, 07:06: AM
Yes but he's good with international players, he knows all the tricks..
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Megakid on Dec 23, 2007, 07:12: AM
Yeah i agree, but oh well leave him out for me ^-^
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: BigMac on Dec 23, 2007, 12:09: PM
LOL cant take Rooney out of the side.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Adi on Dec 23, 2007, 12:42: PM
To put it in simplest terms...

England is not as technically gifted as most of the top international teams.

Compare the players on the England team to those of Italy, Spain, Holland, France, Brazil, Argentina, and Portugal and you'll see that England is well behind.

Now look at the Premiership. It was shit 10 years ago because all it had was those English players. Now it has some foreign talent that has injected the league with skill. The league is now the best with a good mix of direct and high pressure play as well as technical and flashy brilliance.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: moby on Dec 23, 2007, 06:57: PM
i agree with you on the first part of your post adi but the english league having technical and flashy brilliaance. thats the most stupidist thing i heard. and believe me your not the first person i heard this from. the english league is one of the worst leagues in my opinion. it has no skill whatsoever. now i am not saying the italian or spanish league is better but the english league is the last league in the world i would play for. please name me one player the english league has bought the best out of. the most closes one is tevez but i still think he can do much better.

look at chevy. is he any where near the chevy we saw at ac milan
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 24, 2007, 03:26: AM
Fabregas made a great comment the other day, and it is that English players do not play outside of England (very rarely anyway). How else will players bring different elements to thier game? For me, it is all about bringing in players with different skills, qualities, and expiriences and putting it together. Don't take players that are all based on the same game. Look:

Rooney - EPL
Lampard - EPL
Gerrard - EPL
Neville - EPL
Rio - EPL
Cashley - EPL

lets see...

Ronaldo - La Liga, Serie A
Ronaldinho - La liga
Gilberto - EPL
Vagner Love - Russian League
Robinho - La liga


See, i know you're thinking "well these brasilian players started in brasil.." you're right. but then they moved on...they all went to different parts of the continent, thus picking up different styles, not keeping the same style of play. I'm not saying that you're national team should have players that DO NOT play in the country; it is good to have players playing in your country, of course. But all of them? I don't think so. Even the USA is picking up on this. Having our playrs stay in the MLS is a big mistake, yes of course because the MLS is not a great league..but also, our players will be able to pick up different qualities, look at Beasley in Scotland, Dempsey in England, Freddy in Portugal.

England just needs some variation in players..thats all they need. It's not about Capello or Mourinho...to me, it all boils down to the players abilities and ability to play with each other with skills that compliment each other.

Yeah but you all go on about Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool all having different styles of play, well.. there you go, each player has a different style of play..
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 24, 2007, 03:48: AM
i agree with you on the first part of your post adi but the english league having technical and flashy brilliaance. thats the most stupidist thing i heard. and believe me your not the first person i heard this from. the english league is one of the worst leagues in my opinion. it has no skill whatsoever. now i am not saying the italian or spanish league is better but the english league is the last league in the world i would play for. please name me one player the english league has bought the best out of. the most closes one is tevez but i still think he can do much better.

look at chevy. is he any where near the chevy we saw at ac milan
I can kind of see where your coming from moby but then again camon its no where near the worst league. I'm not a very big fan of the EPL style of play but its is hella entertaining bro. As good as Italian football is I cant stand watching games like Citania vs Messina or Empoli v Sampdoria ect  :nopity: Its the big teams that play entertaining in Italy ( Inter, Roma, AC, Lazio, Juventus, Plermo, and Fiorentina). But I can watch a say Sunderland v Westham its much more entertaining than small teams in Italy. 
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 24, 2007, 04:05: AM
When I was younger, a lot of people would stereotype Italy and say that Italy and their clubs score 1 or 2 goals then defend the whole game, which made it boring..
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 24, 2007, 04:09: AM
When I used to follow the football back in the day I used to tune into the Seria A way more than any other league, back then it was the best league in the world no questions asked, I don't know what happened over the years tho they fucked up majorly.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Adi on Dec 24, 2007, 05:00: AM
i agree with you on the first part of your post adi but the english league having technical and flashy brilliaance. thats the most stupidist thing i heard.

How can you say the Premiership doesn't have its technical and flashy parts? Do you not see players like Ronaldo, Fabregas, Rosicky, Torres, Babel, Xabi, etc. out there?

I know the league doesn't have as much of it as some of the other top leagues, that's why I said it had a nice combination of high pressure + direct football and some technique and flashiness. These two put together make it the most entertaining league to watch.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 24, 2007, 01:04: PM
Fabregas made a great comment the other day, and it is that English players do not play outside of England (very rarely anyway). How else will players bring different elements to thier game? For me, it is all about bringing in players with different skills, qualities, and expiriences and putting it together. Don't take players that are all based on the same game. Look:

Rooney - EPL
Lampard - EPL
Gerrard - EPL
Neville - EPL
Rio - EPL
Cashley - EPL

lets see...

Ronaldo - La Liga, Serie A
Ronaldinho - La liga
Gilberto - EPL
Vagner Love - Russian League
Robinho - La liga


See, i know you're thinking "well these brasilian players started in brasil.." you're right. but then they moved on...they all went to different parts of the continent, thus picking up different styles, not keeping the same style of play. I'm not saying that you're national team should have players that DO NOT play in the country; it is good to have players playing in your country, of course. But all of them? I don't think so. Even the USA is picking up on this. Having our playrs stay in the MLS is a big mistake, yes of course because the MLS is not a great league..but also, our players will be able to pick up different qualities, look at Beasley in Scotland, Dempsey in England, Freddy in Portugal.

England just needs some variation in players..thats all they need. It's not about Capello or Mourinho...to me, it all boils down to the players abilities and ability to play with each other with skills that compliment each other.

Yeah but you all go on about Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool all having different styles of play, well.. there you go, each player has a different style of play..

How many English players does Arsenal field on a regular basis? Theo Walcott gets a few appearances here and there. And to be honest, this is why we have the most beautiful soccer in the league :nopity: And i do not think there is anything wrong with fielding an all foreign tem.

You just don't get the point that i'm making. When you play against Wigan, Derby, Manchester City etc etc. it is different than playing against Livorno, Cagliari, or Lazio. What i'm saying is you pick up knowledge from a completely different style of soccer. Don't be afraid to admit that it is rare that English players  get to expirience this.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 24, 2007, 01:07: PM
Alright I'm catching your drift a bit now.. if only our top 4 English teams played more CL games and international games we'd get more experience all-round.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 24, 2007, 04:33: PM
It's not just playing against the opposition of another country. It is being part of this opposition. It is being part of an Italian side that you gain thier insight and style of play. Or part of a Portuguese, Dutch, or Spanish side. Playing against them is not the same; a player will not pick up this style, but will only observe.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Chunkchenko on Dec 24, 2007, 11:07: PM
some really great points elite, didnt you once have an offer to join fiorentina? or am i thinking of someone else. do you support any serie a teams?
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Adi on Dec 25, 2007, 03:58: AM
You guys think Beckham should play again for England?

He's got 99 caps so I think he should get at least one more so he can make his 100th appearance for the national team. Someone was saying he might even be captain again under Capello!

Long-term however, I don't see much of a point in having him because he won't be good enough by the time England is at the World Cup. I'd keep him through some qualifiers until it's obvious he can't keep up anymore. He's still got a lot to offer. Considering he won't get any real big games in the MLS, he'll be playing like a mad man for the national team.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 25, 2007, 05:36: AM
Heh..No i did not get an offer to play for Fiorentina :dontknow:

Beckham should get his cap and then be excluded from the squad (unless, of course, he plays rediculously well)
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: moby on Dec 25, 2007, 09:06: PM
beckham does not deserve to play in the english squad.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 26, 2007, 02:13: AM
i agree with you on the first part of your post adi but the english league having technical and flashy brilliaance. thats the most stupidist thing i heard. and believe me your not the first person i heard this from. the english league is one of the worst leagues in my opinion. it has no skill whatsoever. now i am not saying the italian or spanish league is better but the english league is the last league in the world i would play for. please name me one player the english league has bought the best out of. the most closes one is tevez but i still think he can do much better.

look at chevy. is he any where near the chevy we saw at ac milan

I just read your post. Wow.

Cristiano Ronaldo, Cesc Fabregas, Hleb, Thiery Henry, Drogba (Yes, was good prior to Chelsea. But don't tell me his best wasn't his 30 goal season.)

To name a few players that have been brought into the EPL from other leagues/teams when they were younger or not as successful.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Buckwheat156 on Dec 26, 2007, 09:06: AM
Capello has a great record and he will take england places. secondly becks not only will play but he should be capitain again. he is a great professional and a great player. ager being recalled for england and for real madrid he mad huge impacts....not to mention hes a good looking lad
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: manutd. on Dec 26, 2007, 09:07: AM
Capello said either Rio or Becks will get captaincy.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Buckwheat156 on Dec 26, 2007, 09:14: AM
sweet thats good news. im pullin for becks
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Tito on Dec 26, 2007, 07:55: PM
ager being recalled for england and for real madrid he mad huge impacts....not to mention hes a good looking lad
you have a sickening taste for men  :down:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Chunkchenko on Dec 27, 2007, 03:37: AM
ager being recalled for england and for real madrid he mad huge impacts....not to mention hes a good looking lad
you have a sickening taste for men  :down:

atleast he doesnt have posters of ribery on his wall.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Adi on Dec 27, 2007, 04:52: AM
Hah something wrong with a Ribery wallpaper? It's quite nice... :banana:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Megakid on Dec 27, 2007, 04:56: AM
Hah something wrong with a Ribery wallpaper? It's quite nice... :banana:

Hes got a really long scar on his face, and i know why you say that adi bayern munich!!, but yeh i agree its very nice  ^-^.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Buckwheat156 on Dec 27, 2007, 08:14: AM
not only that but he also had a wallpaper of the Ribery as well!!! dont let him fool you
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Tito on Dec 27, 2007, 12:13: PM
Hah something wrong with a Ribery wallpaper? It's quite nice... :banana:
:saywhat:
i think i just vomited in my mouth alittle
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: madrid4life on Dec 29, 2007, 07:13: AM
nooo.....i would have never chosen capello. he is an idiot. i know we won a championship with him (i mean madrid) but he is simply an idiot. sorry england, that wasnt a good idea to choose him. really.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Buckwheat156 on Dec 29, 2007, 08:29: AM
whoa?! who would you have picked. he has a great record at all the teams he has managed. i dont know why madrid got rid of him. that was their first title in like 5 years i believe.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: madrid4life on Dec 29, 2007, 09:09: AM
yeah sure youre right. he started something with madrid.but i wouldnt have picked him. dont like him at all, his attitude to players etc. but i told you thats just my oppinnion. doesnt count:D
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Buckwheat156 on Dec 30, 2007, 12:33: PM
dont beat yourself up your opinion does count. we will let capellos results for england prove us wrong or right. come to think of it more  news papers are agreeing with you and also saying that him not knowing english wont be good for england
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Tito on Jan 27, 2008, 09:19: PM
theres no cure for cancer or England

perfectly said. england are simply not good enough. thats it.  :booty:
Funny duckling. You just wait and see.. semi-finals for sure in the WC.
yes Borg your right but they will get knocked out by Canada who will beat Zimbabwe in the final  :lol:
greastest post of my SG career
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: moby on Jan 30, 2008, 08:23: PM
one of the best in SG history
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Tito on Jan 31, 2008, 11:16: AM
Go Canada  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: moby on Feb 04, 2008, 08:15: PM
and zimbabwe
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Tito on Feb 05, 2008, 05:50: AM
but mainly Canada
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Bow on Feb 09, 2008, 10:53: PM
england are good enough.. our problem is we always pick the big names and not the inform players, I am still confident we will win the euros... and we aint even in it... that is how good we are.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Tito on Feb 10, 2008, 05:39: PM
too true
but when will the fans stop putting pressure on the manager and allow to leave out the big names
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: moby on Feb 10, 2008, 06:42: PM
how good you are?


there is a simple way to explain Englands bad performances.


THERE SHIT!!!!
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Adi on Feb 11, 2008, 05:34: AM
I am still confident we will win the euros... and we aint even in it... that is how good we are.

 :lol:

Now that's the attitude of a typical England fan. I still remember this forum when Mitch and Callum used to think England was winning every competition for sure. I think Germany was also horrible in their opinion. Funny how things work out. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Bow on Feb 12, 2008, 06:14: AM
I am still confident we will win the euros... and we aint even in it... that is how good we are.

 :lol:

Now that's the attitude of a typical England fan. I still remember this forum when Mitch and Callum used to think England was winning every competition for sure. I think Germany was also horrible in their opinion. Funny how things work out. :biggrin:

dont u dare make me go back 3 years and bring up the war lol.... this is how an england germany arguement went

Germany got to the final of the world cup...

Ye but you didnt play england and england lost to the team that won and out played them in the first half

Germany won the last game at wembley...

England 5 - 1 Germany

Germany beat you in in 1996...

England beat you in the World cup final

Germany have won more trophies...


Ye but who won the War?

Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Buckwheat156 on Feb 12, 2008, 08:10: AM
his first game was a victory. it was a good one in my opinion the swiss are a tricky bunch.
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: A10s on Feb 12, 2008, 01:29: PM
ALLOT of people dislike Capello, cuz of the becks stuff, and cuz of his attitude, but i think that in a purely technical aspect he is a great trainer, polemic, nevrtheless..... but hes still great
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: Adi on Feb 13, 2008, 10:26: AM

dont u dare make me go back 3 years and bring up the war lol.... this is how an england germany arguement went

Germany got to the final of the world cup...

Ye but you didnt play england and england lost to the team that won and out played them in the first half

Germany won the last game at wembley...

England 5 - 1 Germany

Germany beat you in in 1996...

England beat you in the World cup final

Germany have won more trophies...


Ye but who won the War?



Hahaha, too true. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Capello is your new man
Post by: moby on Feb 13, 2008, 11:56: AM
haha nice post benbow

 Capello is one of the great managers. but coaching england will be a big test.