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Soccer => Soccer Forum => Topic started by: sputnik on Jun 11, 2008, 07:12: AM
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From July 1st. Discuss
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So interesting, I wonder how he'll do. I just can't see him in England though.. :dontknow:
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I don't like him until he proves other wise. I just can't see him succeeding with Chelsea right now, never liked the mans style. I was hoping for Lipi or Hiddink. But hes got a good managerial team, TenCate and Clarckey (if he stays). Now I want to see him hold on to Drgoba, Essien and Lampard. And cut the under preforming players like Ben-Haim, Sidwell, Pizzaro, Shevchenko ect.
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chelsea ballboys have just had a two-fold increase in their responsibilities
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It's sad because Sidwell was so good at Reading. That was his right place, not Chelsea.
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Avram should never have been given the shunt.
He got Chelsea playing some attractive footbal, they came close to winning the Prem when the ey had been written off, they SHOULD have won the CL, they dominated Man Utd from the second half onwards, a Terry slip is all that won them the trophy.
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But hes got a good managerial team, TenCate and Clarckey (if he stays).
If i'm not mistaken, ten Cate was fired.
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If I were a Chelsea fan, I'd be damn excited to have this guy. He's proven on the international level. Why shouldn't he be able to do it at the club level? If anything the international level is tougher to succeed at.
Drogba appears to have cooled the transfer talks. I'm guessing he liked the Scolari move.
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he has won the copa libertadores twice. that's pretty damn good at the club level
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I wouldn't be surprised if this brought Ronaldinho to Chelsea. He's won a world cup with Scolari, now it's time to win a treble with him.
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I can't see Ronaldinho in a Blue shirt...
As for the appointment, Phil is proven to be a great manager...but Avram Grant should never have been sacked. Look at what the guy did for Chelsea when Mourinho left a dispirited squad off the pace in the Premiership.
It will come back to haunt Roman and his meddlesome ways. Like Ballack getting played as a defensive player (due to his insistence on signing him). wTF? The guy is an attacking force and he gets totally misused.
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world cup winner, euro semi finalist
nothing more to say. i think he will do wonders for chelsea. but i think this is stupid but is it the same when you coach national and club level.
what do you guys think.
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He did it National level and I think he can do it club level. He's obviously going to attract more players over the summer so that should be good for Chelsea. :down:
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I can't see Ronaldinho in a Blue shirt...
As for the appointment, Phil is proven to be a great manager...but Avram Grant should never have been sacked. Look at what the guy did for Chelsea when Mourinho left a dispirited squad off the pace in the Premiership.
It will come back to haunt Roman and his meddlesome ways. Like Ballack getting played as a defensive player (due to his insistence on signing him). wTF? The guy is an attacking force and he gets totally misused.
I disagree, Grant was a loser. The men behind him where doing the work assistant managers Clark and Ten Cate. Plus they where working with the foundations Mourinho had previously built. It was Mourinho's team out there. Chelsea could have done well with out a coach last season. Getting rid of Mourinho was a huge mistake, getting rid of Grant was a blessing. He played Essien in the defense while we had 3 available right backs. He started Malouda who was under preforming and missed out most of the season and Joe Cole whose been below par for a long time wtf. Soon as I saw the line up for Chelsea's most important game. I knew it would be a disaster. Good riddance.
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He did it National level and he has done it at club level. He's obviously going to attract more players over the summer so that should be good for Chelsea. :down:
a libertadores title is not small shit
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My mistake, thanks for fixing. :biggrin:
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I agree with melbourne on this one. He didn't win anything and it was Mourinho's team out there. And most importantly you could tell that the players were not fully behind him. You can't have that with so many star players. You need an experienced coach who will have the player's respect.
The only issue I have with Scolari is his lack of English. I know he'll have a translator and that will help, but his motivating will suffer. I don't see the players getting the same motivation through translation.
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Excellent!! Gonna be fun watching him manage the team,Lets hope he can throw out the sucky long-ball system,Where they score 1 and sit back to defend.
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Excellent!! Gonna be fun watching him manage the team,Lets hope he can throw out the sucky long-ball system,Where they score 1 and sit back to defend.
Mourinho might have been a defense orientated manager. But 'long ball / scoring one goal than defending' was never one of Chelsea's main tactics. Mournho believed in a strong defense and no team can be successful with out building from the defense up. Long ball was indeed one Chelsea's tactics but its wasn't as prominent as people make it out to be. They mainly kept and passed the ball around and employ the tactic when needed. Its just that they did it so well people think it was the main tactic. There is nothing wrong with long ball if you can do it with good result.
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I agree with melbourne on this one. He didn't win anything and it was Mourinho's team out there. And most importantly you could tell that the players were not fully behind him. You can't have that with so many star players. You need an experienced coach who will have the player's respect.
The only issue I have with Scolari is his lack of English. I know he'll have a translator and that will help, but his motivating will suffer. I don't see the players getting the same motivation through translation.
I gotta disagree.
Carvalho recently spoke out about the harsh way in which Avram was treated and his dissapointment of his sacking. It's another case of Big Name manager gets in ahead of common sense and decency.
Avram didn't win anything? Look at where Mourinho left it at. Poor in the Prem and really playing quite badly with little belief.
for ANY manager to come in after such a great manager has been in charge and to do what Avram did was remarkable especially in the face of such opposition and lack of support from fans etc.
To say
they were deperately unlucky to lose the CL final. A Terry slip is all that cost them, they dominated Man United for a half and the whole of the 2nd period of injury time.
Phil will do well, but how well? I think Manure and Arsenal (depending on signings) will have better squad morale/players.
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Maybe he'll attract some portuguese wingers. Get rid of Malouda and let wright-philips move on. Chelsea ruined his career...poor guy. Same with Sidwell he needs to go. We'll see what he does. I thought Grant did alright. There was that confrontation between Ballack and Drogba during the last manu game in the premier league that he didn't really do much to sort out. But I couldn't complain. He didn't do any worse than Mourinho. Maybe Scolari will make the team's play more attractive
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I agree with melbourne on this one. He didn't win anything and it was Mourinho's team out there. And most importantly you could tell that the players were not fully behind him. You can't have that with so many star players. You need an experienced coach who will have the player's respect.
The only issue I have with Scolari is his lack of English. I know he'll have a translator and that will help, but his motivating will suffer. I don't see the players getting the same motivation through translation.
Phil already speaks and understands English, so it isn't really lacking. And top of what he already knows, he's got a few months until games begin and motiviation is needed. I'm sure his English will be fine.
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He'll be OK but his English is nowhere near good. I've heard him speak in interview in which he tried to speak English and it was pretty damn bad. Very bad actually.
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Hm; from what the guys on Sky Sports news said, the reporters were actually surprised by how well he spoke English :down:
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He'll be OK but his English is nowhere near good. I've heard him speak in interview in which he tried to speak English and it was pretty damn bad. Very bad actually.
He'll get ahold of it fast ;) I know it from my own experience, being close to the team all the time. I'd say give him 6 months. That's what it took me to learn the basics. I was 14 though. :)
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He'll be OK but his English is nowhere near good. I've heard him speak in interview in which he tried to speak English and it was pretty damn bad. Very bad actually.
He'll get ahold of it fast ;) I know it from my own experience, being close to the team all the time. I'd say give him 6 months. That's what it took me to learn the basics. I was 14 though. :)
Yeah it's a lot different when you're young. You can pick it up much faster obviously. I spoke better English 3 months after being in the US than my parents do 10 years since moving here.
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i think that Scolari will just drive the Chelsea's people insane. Phil is known for him winning with Brazil and having a "solid" Portugal team
what was the last club team that he coached and how did they do?
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He has won Coach of the Year in South America twice for winning competitions such as Copa Libertadores with Palmeiras and Gremio.
And it's Felipe, not Phil. :booty:
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He's making some NICE transfers...Hopefully he'll get Van Der Vaart..
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He's making some NICE transfers...Hopefully he'll get Van Der Vaart..
I don´t really think, that he could get him :dontknow:
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Well.. Abrahamovic was offering 15m... Martin Jol just doesnt want to sell him.