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Title: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 25, 2008, 11:16: AM
Alright,I have uploaded a video of myself doing ATW,People please give some comments and feedback on what is wrong and what is right.

Here's the video!


Please give feedback.
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: emogirl on May 25, 2008, 11:17: AM
Lol, this isn't atw.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 25, 2008, 11:18: AM
Then what is it? I thought this was ATW?  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Javi on May 25, 2008, 11:31: AM
It's an almost atw  :biggrin: you need to work on it :cheers:

btw, wrong section :dontknow:
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 25, 2008, 11:35: AM
Oh,Sorry. I'm a newbie you see. Well I'll keep trying it. I think I got the hang of it.
And can someone tell me whats the full ATW if this is an almost ATW.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Chunkchenko on May 25, 2008, 11:50: AM
you kick the ball up with one foot and do a full revolution around the ball with the same leg you used to kick the ball.

when you dragged the ball onto your standing foot and did the revoltion with the opposite leg.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 25, 2008, 11:53: AM
I dont get it,I dragged it with my right foot and did the revolution also with right,Is that wrong?  :dontknow:

EDIT: Here are some more vids.



I'm not sure if this one is full revolution.

Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Chunkchenko on May 25, 2008, 11:58: AM
ahh my bad i watched your first clip a few times and though you dragged the ball into your standing foot and did the revolution with the opposite.

i think what other people meant was it wasnt a proper atw because you didnt keep the ball going after wards.

for example watch from 0:10 onwards.
http://www.beyondfootball.com/forum/index.php?topic=2320.0
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Jonathonhehu on May 25, 2008, 12:11: PM
good job just practice it and control the ball after
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 25, 2008, 12:26: PM
Thanks for all your comments people!  :thumbsup:
I shall keep practicing till I dont perfect it.
I'll try to juggle after doing an ATW.Hopefully it'll be proper then.
And next time,I'll try to get proper videos with a straight picture :P and better quality.
 :cheers:

So Chunkchenko you want me to do continuous ATW's??
I can try to juggle after doing 1 ATW but continuous. That's gonna be hard.

BTW, Am I doing Inside ATW or Outside ?  :dontknow: :lol:
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Shenker on May 25, 2008, 03:50: PM
your doing inside :)
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Sander on May 25, 2008, 05:30: PM
you're doing inside and try to keep on juggling after the atw
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: 2zef^^ on May 25, 2008, 07:00: PM
cool
try to master it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 25, 2008, 11:35: PM

Another vid,BTW I did 4 juggles after ATW but didnt get that one on camera.
Thanks all for your feedback,I'm getting quite better at this.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: pallur on May 25, 2008, 11:45: PM
I`m just curious, how long can you do juggle?

pallur
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Sander on May 26, 2008, 02:45: AM
do the atw from juggling or from footstall eldiablo, not from floor. and try to juggle after the trick if you can do that you fully mastered it
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 26, 2008, 11:35: AM
@ pallur To the max I've done 43 juggles only on right foot,If I use my left they go wrong. :(
@ sander I can't do it from either of the 2,Only from floor,I'll just keep on trying...And I can juggle after doing it from t he ground.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: TheGodEmperor on May 26, 2008, 12:44: PM
El Diablo you have to be good at juggling on both feet (and preferably have >100 juggles) to be bale to go reasonably far in freestyle. Am I right (to other people who probably know more about fs technique than I do)?
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 26, 2008, 08:21: PM
I am also trying to improve my left leg,But its not very easy  :bang:  :bang: I'm doing juggles on only my left leg and only right then both legs.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: michaelhindle on May 27, 2008, 12:09: AM
u need to get ur juggling more acurate before doing the trick
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 27, 2008, 01:59: AM
Oh is it that,Well I find it impossible to do ATW from juggling. So,I'll just keep practicing ATW...And hopefully get it 100% correctly someday!  :biggrin:

Thanks for your support everyone!


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Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: dalefreestyle on May 27, 2008, 03:23: AM
u need to prtaice first of footstall
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: lucasfml on May 27, 2008, 03:30: AM
Oh is it that,Well I find it impossible to do ATW from juggling. So,I'll just keep practicing ATW...And hopefully get it 100% correctly someday!  :biggrin:

Thanks for your support everyone!


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as some people said b4, yaeh it is pretty nice to learn how to juggle with both feet, because otherwise your style will not seem natural

TF10 is right, for sure!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 27, 2008, 07:19: PM
Kayz,I'll practice juggling with both feet,Hopefully I'll get it.. :bowdown:
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ikron on May 28, 2008, 02:11: AM
hey man...its me....from delhi :P.....how did u come across freestyle by the way??
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 28, 2008, 02:41: AM
I saw your topic of you and Vishnu freestyle :P,Anyways,Any tips for a beginner like me?  :bowdown: :bowdown: I take you as my FS god from now.  :lol:
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Recce80 on May 28, 2008, 04:45: AM
Oh is it that,Well I find it impossible to do ATW from juggling. So,I'll just keep practicing ATW...And hopefully get it 100% correctly someday!  :biggrin:

Thanks for your support everyone!


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Ok after reading all your posts..you still dont seem to understand freestyle and progressing.If you want to learn ATW PROPERLY and other tricks,you must be able to juggle properly while being stable/holding balance.

Here is my advice if you want to do a proper ATW.

1.Stop practicing ATW.
2.Practice juggling until you can control it for 50 times from left to right without dropping it.
3.Then practice ATW.

Until you learn how to juggle properly,you will always be chasing your tail...going in circles.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: RaFa on May 28, 2008, 04:48: AM
try a Patw... Come on is a fucking atw, stop posting and more practice...  :angry:
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 28, 2008, 02:01: PM
Oh is it that,Well I find it impossible to do ATW from juggling. So,I'll just keep practicing ATW...And hopefully get it 100% correctly someday!  :biggrin:

Thanks for your support everyone!


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Ok after reading all your posts..you still dont seem to understand freestyle and progressing.If you want to learn ATW PROPERLY and other tricks,you must be able to juggle properly while being stable/holding balance.

Here is my advice if you want to do a proper ATW.

1.Stop practicing ATW.
2.Practice juggling until you can control it for 50 times from left to right without dropping it.
3.Then practice ATW.

Until you learn how to juggle properly,you will always be chasing your tail...going in circles.

Juggling from left to right is impossible for me,As soon as the ball reaches the left,The juggle is over. I need to strenghthen my left foot.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Recce80 on May 28, 2008, 05:09: PM
Oh is it that,Well I find it impossible to do ATW from juggling. So,I'll just keep practicing ATW...And hopefully get it 100% correctly someday!  :biggrin:

Thanks for your support everyone!


     OFF TOPIC :      100th Post!! W00T 100 Posts!!


Ok after reading all your posts..you still dont seem to understand freestyle and progressing.If you want to learn ATW PROPERLY and other tricks,you must be able to juggle properly while being stable/holding balance.

Here is my advice if you want to do a proper ATW.

1.Stop practicing ATW.
2.Practice juggling until you can control it for 50 times from left to right without dropping it.
3.Then practice ATW.

Until you learn how to juggle properly,you will always be chasing your tail...going in circles.

Juggling from left to right is impossible for me,As soon as the ball reaches the left,The juggle is over. I need to strenghthen my left foot.

trust me.All you need to do is practice.Its not impossible.If you practice and practice you will get it.Without proper juggling,ATW is useless...any lower skills are useless without proper juggling.The basis for freestyle lowers is being able to juggle with proper timing and control.

the only way you gain that is practice,so go practice and before you know it,youll be able to do it fine.It maybe take you 1 day,it may take 1 month,or 10 months...but you wont know unless you practice.So forget atw,and this whole thread,just go practice juggling,when you can juggle 50 times from left to right with good control...then come back and well tell you how to do atw with ease...
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 28, 2008, 06:26: PM
Oh is it that,Well I find it impossible to do ATW from juggling. So,I'll just keep practicing ATW...And hopefully get it 100% correctly someday!  :biggrin:

Thanks for your support everyone!


     OFF TOPIC :      100th Post!! W00T 100 Posts!!


Ok after reading all your posts..you still dont seem to understand freestyle and progressing.If you want to learn ATW PROPERLY and other tricks,you must be able to juggle properly while being stable/holding balance.

Here is my advice if you want to do a proper ATW.

1.Stop practicing ATW.
2.Practice juggling until you can control it for 50 times from left to right without dropping it.
3.Then practice ATW.

Until you learn how to juggle properly,you will always be chasing your tail...going in circles.

Juggling from left to right is impossible for me,As soon as the ball reaches the left,The juggle is over. I need to strenghthen my left foot.

trust me.All you need to do is practice.Its not impossible.If you practice and practice you will get it.Without proper juggling,ATW is useless...any lower skills are useless without proper juggling.The basis for freestyle lowers is being able to juggle with proper timing and control.

the only way you gain that is practice,so go practice and before you know it,youll be able to do it fine.It maybe take you 1 day,it may take 1 month,or 10 months...but you wont know unless you practice.So forget atw,and this whole thread,just go practice juggling,when you can juggle 50 times from left to right with good control...then come back and well tell you how to do atw with ease...

That's the type of encouragement I need. From today onwards,I shall post my highest no. of juggles in a week,And lets see how high I can go.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on May 31, 2008, 11:54: PM
This weeks highest no. of juggles - 52.

W00T,Target acchieved.

New Target - 75 juggles.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: lucasfml on Jun 01, 2008, 12:05: AM
This weeks highest no. of juggles - 52.

W00T,Target acchieved.

New Target - 75 juggles.

ook, that's nice, but alternate, with both feet? from right to left?
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on Jun 01, 2008, 12:07: AM
This weeks highest no. of juggles - 52.

W00T,Target acchieved.

New Target - 75 juggles.

ook, that's nice, but alternate, with both feet? from right to left?

Right to left,It was quite hard,But pulled it off in the end... But sometimes I couldnt switch to left,But I did use both feet.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on Jun 30, 2008, 05:28: PM
I'm back with a bang!!

Me trying ATW-ATW. Actually pulled it off.

Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: BevS on Jun 30, 2008, 08:39: PM
I'm back with a bang!!

Me trying ATW-ATW. Actually pulled it off.


ummm... in the freestyle world... that is known as a stack.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on Jun 30, 2008, 09:43: PM
A Stack?

I dont get it. Whats a stack?

And if its wrong please tell me what is correct and tell me how I can improve.

Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Sander on Jun 30, 2008, 10:04: PM
dude, about 4-5 years ago i was the worst juggler from my class. i could juggle only like 10-12 times. we had this game that is about juggling and scoring and the loser had to stand and all the others could shoot on his ass. i often lost. then i started to practise juggling. first on my right foot and when i could do about 20 also on my left foot and later the normal juggle as all freestylers do. then after some time someone told me about voetbaltruc.nl, a dutch website about freestyle and at that time very active. i watched a lot of movies and started practising atw and cross. (that was about 3 years ago) then there was a very long time that i learned nothing but since beginning 2007 i'm freestyling quite seriously. now i can do cool stuff such as latw, taatw, sideheadstall, little sits and combos of about 5-6 tricks usually. i know i'm not a fast learner (there are dudes that are better than me although they freestyle for a shorter time) but i'm enjoying it and lately i'm noticing i'm getting better and better and i'm planning to go on for a while. right now i have a juggling record that is more than twice as high than anyone from my old class. some of them can do atw, but that's it, they'll never be able to strike back again :cheers:

i hope this story will motivate you to learn your juggle and the tricks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on Jun 30, 2008, 10:08: PM
It did quite motivate me,And I do practice juggling everyday,My average is around 30-35.
But right now,Can you tell me whats wrong with the ATW-ATW I tried?
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Sander on Jun 30, 2008, 10:14: PM
i can't see the ball  :thumbsup: it's too dark and you fell so lost control so didn't make it ;)
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on Jun 30, 2008, 10:15: PM
O.o I did touch the ball even after falling,But I guess,I gotta try harder.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: BigMac on Jun 30, 2008, 10:21: PM
If you cant see what is wrong with your 'atw-atw' then you are a fucking idiot!
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on Jun 30, 2008, 11:04: PM
If you cant see what is wrong with your 'atw-atw' then you are a fucking idiot!

Er... Dude calm down,Dont abuse ok.

I'm a n00b in Freestyle and Humans make mistakes.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Doz on Jun 30, 2008, 11:32: PM
ye chill out man, every one has to start from somewhere i bet you were like him ( no offence ) at one point
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: BevS on Jun 30, 2008, 11:33: PM
A Stack?

I dont get it. Whats a stack?

And if its wrong please tell me what is correct and tell me how I can improve.



the phrase "stack" is a word commonly used to describe the event of stuffing something up, usually resulting in a fall of some kind...

its most common usage involves such extreme sports as bmx riding or skateboarding... for example:

jimbo: "davey! how'd ur arse end up all swolen like that?"
david: "i was bustin' a 50-50 down a sweet rail but i STACKED it bad"

----

your atw is wrong for many reasons:

-you simply do it from a straight flick up, no juggles before hand, so infact its more of a flick up than an actual air move.
-you dont actually land the trick, you fall over.
-its so dark its impossible to see if you even touched the ball on landing.
-even if you did touch it... one single touch does not constitute a landed trick... i dont know about the rest of the world, but here in australia, for a trick to be considered "landed", there must be atleast 2 touches afterwards... however, this only really applies at freestyle meets where we are freestyling infront of eachother for fun... if a trick is to be used in a video... the only way i would consider using a clip is if the combo or trick was under complete control after landing... your ball simply flys away, and you obviously have no control over it.

Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: ElDiablo© on Jun 30, 2008, 11:54: PM
O.o I get you Bevs,But if I'm not mistaken,Isnt ATW from Footstall considered a trick? and I think beginners are supposed to do ATW from Flick up.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: BigMac on Jul 01, 2008, 01:04: AM
ye chill out man, every one has to start from somewhere i bet you were like him ( no offence ) at one point

i wasnt like him at one point, i never filmed a failed 2 atws fall over get over and celebrate landing it then post it on a forum saying i did it.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Doz on Jul 01, 2008, 01:09: AM
fair does, but i ment skills wise, like at one point you would only be able to just about manage an atw
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: BigMac on Jul 01, 2008, 01:12: AM
fair does, but i ment skills wise, like at one point you would only be able to just about manage an atw

yes ofcourse, everyone has. I have nothing against that, i have helped many people before and wil do in the future.

But ElDiablo has no hope if he cannot see where he failed his atw-atw :bang:
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: Sander on Jul 01, 2008, 01:13: AM
O.o I get you Bevs,But if I'm not mistaken,Isnt ATW from Footstall considered a trick? and I think beginners are supposed to do ATW from Flick up.
dude, they are not supposed there are no 'official' rules but what bevs said about the touches afterwards is true. just practise and don't put everyting on the internet. i can do 14 atw and i'm not even on the internet. just practise and i find atw from flickup harder than the normal one ;)
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: vish22 on Jul 01, 2008, 04:05: AM
Perfect 2nd atw dude!!  :bowdown:
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: BevS on Jul 01, 2008, 03:17: PM
O.o I get you Bevs,But if I'm not mistaken,Isnt ATW from Footstall considered a trick? and I think beginners are supposed to do ATW from Flick up.
dude, they are not supposed there are no 'official' rules but what bevs said about the touches afterwards is true. just practise and don't put everyting on the internet. i can do 14 atw and i'm not even on the internet. just practise and i find atw from flickup harder than the normal one ;)

yep, sander thats exactly right... atw from footstall is considered a trick, and if u wanna do it from a flick up thats fine, theres no rules about what you can or cant, are or arent supposed to do... but how often do you see any "popular" or well known freestylers these days doing atws from footstall or from flick up? they never do (except for in an LP whilst trying to impress non freestylers)...

i suggest learning how to juggle consistently before you try anymore tricks, and definitely before you post another video.
Title: Re: Me doing ATW! (Please comment)
Post by: riodavid on Jul 01, 2008, 03:38: PM
feedback: put the camera in a right position