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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Freestyle Chat => Topic started by: Golomejic on May 24, 2008, 10:46: AM
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tatw-amatw; "-" means, or represents touch, meaning it's a touch combo.
tatw amatw; see this time it has no "-", meaning there is no touch.
eg;
atw-atw-htw-tatw amatw-htw -> right way
atw-atw-htw-tatw-amatw nt-htw -> wrong way
ok, thats all carry on now
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Good idea, although it might be a little hard for people with dyslexia to see the difference. :dontknow: And for people who isn't clear about the "-"-thing, might think it still means with touch even if it's written without, or if someone forgets to write a "-" between tatw tatw for instance, they would think it's a no touch if they're clear about the rule ... It may cause confusion. I think "tatw nt amatw" works better, to be honest ...
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Bad idea.
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Good idea
It's not an idea. It's how we used to write them untill people found a missing "-" too confusing, I guess. God bless them.
It would be hard for dislexic people to read it? And I guess they find shit like amatw, tatw, rhjatw, atw easy to read so we don't wanna fuck them over by removing "-" every once in a while. Besides, there isn't much difference.
What if someone forgets a "t" in "tatw"? Should we find a whole nother way of writting tricks down?
Bad idea.
I'm sorry, emos opinions aren't taken into consideration.
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should just put a "nt" between tatw and amatw
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Yeah i like this. There is often confusion whether it's nt or not. It has to be some system to avoid this confusion.
OT : How did Croatia in the Eurovision yesterday ? I didn't watch :biggrin:
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I don't like the idea but while you're at suggestions of this kind I say this; skip the atw in amatw and such so eg
Tatw amatw nt becomes
t - am nt
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tatw-amatw; "-" means, or represents touch, meaning it's a touch combo.
tatw amatw; see this time it has no "-", meaning there is no touch.
eg;
atw-atw-htw-tatw amatw-htw -> right way
atw-atw-htw-tatw-amatw nt-htw -> wrong way
ok, thats all carry on now
Greatness has struck Beyond Football.
as "-" means a touch, it's increadibly easy just taking the "-" away when it's a (nt) trick. This was how it was used in the before, but noobs and people without the slightest brain poluted it.
There will be no skipping :cursing:
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On the net, this will be the easiest way. IRL i think you have to mark that the combo is nt. Or just simply say [ Tattv amatevv ] instead of [TeeAaTeeVee AaEmAaTeeVee] ( In swedish )
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i think it´s a pretty good idea, not really hard to remember.
i think it´s not that hard to get the fs community used to it. post it in the polish fs forums and abou 2/3 of all fs´er will know what is meant with the "-" or without the "-" :thumbsup:
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I don't like the idea but while you're at suggestions of this kind I say this; skip the atw in amatw and such so eg
Tatw amatw nt becomes
t - am nt
You actually think this way "atw-atw-t-am nt-htw" would be easier/more logical/better than "atw-atw-tatw amatw-htw"? :saywhat:
How would you write taatw amatw then?
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Good idea
It's not an idea. It's how we used to write them untill people found a missing "-" too confusing, I guess. God bless them.
Why bring it back if it didn't work so well before? I know it's easier and all, but it's not much harder to just put a "nt" inbetween either, to avoid confusions. Although if everyone get to know this rule it could work out great ...
You could make a poll, to see which people would prefer; "tatw amatw", "tatw nt amatw" or other variants?
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shud just use nt
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i will write like i did before.
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i think the idea of just putting 'nt' between the two particular tricks is the most clear. and oli's idea is very confusing to read, especially when tricks as cross, htw or hatw are added, it will look very confusing and tatw etc are already abbreviations
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Why not use it? It's so easy and beautiful!
atw-atw-htw-amatw atatw-atw-atw is just perfect
works well for tricks with more than just one nt
atw-atw-htw-amatw atatw atw-atw
It's complex, it's easy to understand, the combo wont get cluttered with (nt) being in the middle.
Stop the madness and use it... now :cursing:
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because its much harder to understand for beginners. if u add an nt the people will ask what nt stands for and then they will learn what nt is. In Golos idea the beginners wont see that there is a thing called nt or no touch and so they will get confused.
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because its much harder to understand for beginners. if u add an nt the people will ask what nt stands for and then they will learn what nt is. In Golos idea the beginners wont see that there is a thing called nt or no touch and so they will get confused.
exactly, just put (nt) between the two tricks that are 'no touch'
for example: tatw (nt) taatw (nt) amatw-htw-htw-atw-htw-amatw (nt) amatw
this way it's very clear to see what is 'nt' and what not
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long time ago, i had the idea to use the "-" if there is a nt and to use the " " if its a normal combinaiton like atw atw htw amatw-atatw atw atw.
but nobody liked it to the time, i dont know why, its so logical :dontknow:
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because its much harder to understand for beginners. if u add an nt the people will ask what nt stands for and then they will learn what nt is. In Golos idea the beginners wont see that there is a thing called nt or no touch and so they will get confused.
Haha, I was just thinking the same!
The only thing that may cause confusion with "nt" between two tricks is for people who writes "nt" after the two tricks. They would think "tatw-tatw nt amatw" is "tatw nt tatw" with a single amatw after ... Everyone should use the same method; nt between tricks, imo.
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Golo just want to make Skora look like idiot :biggrin:
he wants skora to say that he can do a lot of "-" or "" not a lot of nt's lol :biggrin:
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lol mario, but if just every freestyler in the world reads this topic they should see that 'nt' between the two tricks is the most clear
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totally agree with Mr.Golo, especially when it comes to more thn 2 tricks as Mike mentioned ..
atw - amatw matw matw - htw is just much cleaner and easier thn atw - amatw - matw nt matw nt - htw
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legend, just place the 'nt' between the tricks and it's even clearer than just a open space ;)
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legend, just place the 'nt' between the tricks and it's even clearer than just a open space ;)
Later when you're older, you'll see skora doing a crazy combo and you'll want to write it down (I don't know why, but you'll really want to ^^). I'm sure you'll be happy when you could write 23 spaces instead of 23 times nt.
I'm pro for Golo's solution.
btw I got a question that's maybe offtopic but i don't want to make a new topic just for that lol.
How do english freestylers say atw?
Do they say
a (like in hey) t (like "tea") w (like nintendo "wii")
or
a (like in hey) t (like "tea") w (dubble u)
?
Just wondering ;)
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this way is better
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I don't like the idea but while you're at suggestions of this kind I say this; skip the atw in amatw and such so eg
Tatw amatw nt becomes
t - am nt
You actually think this way "atw-atw-t-am nt-htw" would be easier/more logical/better than "atw-atw-tatw amatw-htw"? :saywhat:
How would you write taatw amatw then?
ta - am nt
I don't think it's a great idea I just wrote it in this thread since it was a similar idea to what yours was
btw I will continue to write like I've always done which is
atw atw htw htw atw hatw tatw amatw nt htw atw blablabla
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legend, just place the 'nt' between the tricks and it's even clearer than just a open space ;)
Later when you're older, you'll see skora doing a crazy combo and you'll want to write it down (I don't know why, but you'll really want to ^^). I'm sure you'll be happy when you could write 23 spaces instead of 23 times nt.
I'm pro for Golo's solution.
btw I got a question that's maybe offtopic but i don't want to make a new topic just for that lol.
How do english freestylers say atw?
Do they say
a (like in hey) t (like "tea") w (like nintendo "wii")
or
a (like in hey) t (like "tea") w (dubble u)
?
Just wondering ;)
you're probably right thomas :thumbsup: but i dont take the time to write down a combo which has 23 notouches ;)
and i think they say hey-tea-wii, thats how i would say it because its easier and it sounds stupid if you are talking to someone about a combo and you say: i did atdouble u - atdouble u - hopdouble u - amatdouble u yesterday
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legend, just place the 'nt' between the tricks and it's even clearer than just a open space ;)
Later when you're older, you'll see skora doing a crazy combo and you'll want to write it down (I don't know why, but you'll really want to ^^). I'm sure you'll be happy when you could write 23 spaces instead of 23 times nt.
I'm pro for Golo's solution.
btw I got a question that's maybe offtopic but i don't want to make a new topic just for that lol.
How do english freestylers say atw?
Do they say
a (like in hey) t (like "tea") w (like nintendo "wii")
or
a (like in hey) t (like "tea") w (dubble u)
?
Just wondering ;)
we say a (like in hey) t (like tea) w as in double u
bak on topic yeah the old way is better, without loads of nt. it makes sense
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because its much harder to understand for beginners. if u add an nt the people will ask what nt stands for and then they will learn what nt is. In Golos idea the beginners wont see that there is a thing called nt or no touch and so they will get confused.
they will just probably as well ask why there are "-" between som tricks and no "-" between others just as likely as they'll ask what nt stands for, and then I'll answer " "-" meant "to", and if there's no "-", it's a no touch combo". So "-" is just as easy to learn as nt and looks better when you're typing a combo.
-=touch
=no touch
simple as
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Or they'll ignore it ... It's easier to ignore a missing "-" than a "nt".
atw-htw-htw-atw-tatw-atatw-atw-htw-htw-atw-tatw-atatw-atw-htw-htw-atw-tatw atatw-atw-htw-htw-atw-tatw-atatw
atw-htw-htw-atw-tatw-atatw-atw-htw-htw-atw-tatw (nt) atatw-atw-htw-htw-atw-tatw-atatw-atw-htw-htw-atw-tatw-atatw
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considering my idea you wouldnt have to write soooo many "-"s
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just do both ways, nt for short combos so it looks clear, and '-' or ' ' for the longer combos so you dont have to type so much
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because its much harder to understand for beginners. if u add an nt the people will ask what nt stands for and then they will learn what nt is. In Golos idea the beginners wont see that there is a thing called nt or no touch and so they will get confused.
Oh, and I guess beginners understand shit like atatw, taatw, hhtw. You'd probably have to explain things anyways, the meaning of (nt) as well, so it comes down to the same shit really.
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no i like nt better!
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What actually IS annoying is when people write "tatw nt amatw" instead of tatw amatw(nt)"
makes a lot of confusion if someone types for example:
"atw-atw-htw-tatw-matw(nt) amatw-htw-atw-atw"
when the combo they actually are talking about is
"atw-atw-htw-tatw-matw-amatw(nt)-htw-atw-atw"
The (nt) sign should NOT be put inbetween the "notouching" tricks.
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because its much harder to understand for beginners. if u add an nt the people will ask what nt stands for and then they will learn what nt is. In Golos idea the beginners wont see that there is a thing called nt or no touch and so they will get confused.
Oh, and I guess beginners understand shit like atatw, taatw, hhtw. You'd probably have to explain things anyways, the meaning of (nt) as well, so it comes down to the same shit really.
We won't explain them the meaning of nt/"-"/" " if they don't ask, and there's a bigger chance that they won't ask if there's missing "-" than if they see a "nt", because it's easier to ignore the missing "-" as said earlier.
What actually IS annoying is when people write "tatw nt amatw" instead of tatw amatw(nt)"
makes a lot of confusion if someone types for example:
"atw-atw-htw-tatw-matw(nt) amatw-htw-atw-atw"
when the combo they actually are talking about is
"atw-atw-htw-tatw-matw-amatw(nt)-htw-atw-atw"
The (nt) sign should NOT be put inbetween the "notouching" tricks.
It makes a lot of confusion for people who are used to (nt) behind, yes; that's why we need everyone to use the same system.
And that system should be nt between.
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because its much harder to understand for beginners. if u add an nt the people will ask what nt stands for and then they will learn what nt is. In Golos idea the beginners wont see that there is a thing called nt or no touch and so they will get confused.
Oh, and I guess beginners understand shit like atatw, taatw, hhtw. You'd probably have to explain things anyways, the meaning of (nt) as well, so it comes down to the same shit really.
yeah but they will think that there is no rule for writing an *-* or * *. they will think everyone only writes what he wants to. if there is nt they will ask for the nt and so its better for them. The only thing that should be cleared up is if e should write nt between or after the tricks..... i prefer oli's way and i think the mayority of freestylers does.
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It makes a lot of confusion for people who are used to (nt) behind, yes; that's why we need everyone to use the same system.
And that system should be nt between.
so ur saying theres a confusion when ppl use nt behind coz u believe it should be in the middle, why not just remove the nt completely then there wont be any confusion, simple as tht :rolleyes:
talking bout beginners, they shouldn't know wats a nt, simply coz they r still beginners, unless ur talking bout beginners these days who can do almost every nt with ugly style :rockit: ..
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i think it doesnt really matter how you write it down, behind or middle, as long as people understand you. you can always find a way to make clear what combo you mean
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It makes a lot of confusion for people who are used to (nt) behind, yes; that's why we need everyone to use the same system.
And that system should be nt between.
so ur saying theres a confusion when ppl use nt behind coz u believe it should be in the middle, why not just remove the nt completely then there wont be any confusion, simple as tht :rolleyes:
talking bout beginners, they shouldn't know wats a nt, simply coz they r still beginners, unless ur talking bout beginners these days who can do almost every nt with ugly style :rockit: ..
haha class post, and very true, as always!
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I'm sorry, emos opinions aren't taken into consideration.
By you, so emos don't really give 2 shits about it. :biggrin:
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It makes a lot of confusion for people who are used to (nt) behind, yes; that's why we need everyone to use the same system.
And that system should be nt between.
so ur saying theres a confusion when ppl use nt behind coz u believe it should be in the middle, why not just remove the nt completely then there wont be any confusion, simple as tht :rolleyes:
It won't cause confusions that way, that's true, but then there's other ways that the missing nt will cause cnofusion, which are mentioned before ...
It's all messed up lol.
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because its much harder to understand for beginners. if u add an nt the people will ask what nt stands for and then they will learn what nt is. In Golos idea the beginners wont see that there is a thing called nt or no touch and so they will get confused.
Oh, and I guess beginners understand shit like atatw, taatw, hhtw. You'd probably have to explain things anyways, the meaning of (nt) as well, so it comes down to the same shit really.
yeah but they will think that there is no rule for writing an *-* or * *. they will think everyone only writes what he wants to. if there is nt they will ask for the nt and so its better for them. The only thing that should be cleared up is if e should write nt between or after the tricks..... i prefer oli's way and i think the mayority of freestylers does.
How the fuck did beginners became a big issue here anyway? So beginners won't understand it so we shouldn't use it? I guess who should stop trying new tricks and shit cause we would maybe then have to explain that too. Just stop and drop everything so the whole fucking world could catch up!
Nevermind the beginners here.
I'm sorry, emos opinions aren't taken into consideration.
By you, so emos don't really give 2 shits about it. :biggrin:
Good, everyones happy.
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but then explain why we should change it anyway? i dont think anyone was unpleasured with the current situation.
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but then explain why we should change it anyway? i dont think anyone was unpleasured with the current situation.
M4x if u use Golo's way you would save 5-6 seconds of your life for something else
btw. i like Golo's way, like is said we save some time and it looks more simple to read
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yes i like it too :cheers:
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i will write as i did before....
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Quite alot of people don't know what "nt" stands for anyway im gonna use golo's idea its great :cheers:
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i will write as i did before....
OK, then we can only wait for you to die.
Greatness is upon us! Now it's up to the people to use it regulary