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Soccer => Soccer Forum => Topic started by: Adi on Jan 17, 2013, 01:30: AM
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Simple... is Messi the best player of all time?
I'm prepared to say yes and it seems a lot of the soccer community agrees. Glad to see the little guy already mentioned as the best at the age of 25. If he stays injury free, there's no doubt he'll be the greatest in everyone's eyes by the time he retires.
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For now, i dont see him as the best ever because, (and u probably hear this all the time from Messi-critics) he hasn't won any trphies with his nation. Meaning he hasn't proven himself on any other team than Barcelona, which is an incredibly amazing team.
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It's hard to say whether it's the best player in history. Many players on the saw, because I was not even born, but with short reports you'll find that it was and will be many geniuses.
As mentioned Emil, Leo has not won anything yet with his own representation. We have to wait a few years to say something.
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In terms of european and individual achievements - clearly the best
achievements for argentina/international level - controversial, he should win a WC then there will be no doubt at all
overall player ability on pitch - clearly the best
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No, just no.
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naah.. not for me... there are others who are ahead of him... but he still got time to prove that hes the greatest ever...
his trophies & achievements speak for him... and yes i agree with royal a WC wil do it... but all the argentinian players would have to hook up together develop to messi's style of play and i think it would be real close !!! :)
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He is the greatest player ever at age of 25 no question. Lets see if he will be at the end of his carreer. He already won WC under 20 where he was nominated best player in the tournament and he won 2008 olypics. So saying he didnt win anything national is wrong. Judging a player by his national team wins is a bit stupid anyway since he is just one player. Spain as a team is just far superior to Argentina and one player cant change that.
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He may not have won a WC yet, but he sure as hell has won more club titles than any of the other greats.
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He may not have won a WC yet, but he sure as hell has won more club titles than any of the other greats.
So have his Barca teammates. Does that make them better as well? It's as an individual. I hate hearing the winning WC or any other title arguments in this debate. For me, there are still players that have been better. He might prove to be the best ever eventually, but right now, I don't think so. I also think many of us want to call him the best ever, so we can say we watched the best player ever play.
Funny thing, this same debate is going on on the other forum I use.
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Who is better in your opinion?
I agree with your comment about it being about the individual. Barca has some top players but he stands well above them, and despite all the studs on the team he still carries them in just about every way. His humble personality is another thing that neither Pele nor Maradona possessed like Messi.
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Humble personality doesn't mean he is a better player. I'd rank Pele and Maradona both above him currently. I'd also rank several other players above him at the moment. I am not convinced that a prime Ronaldo wasn't better. The only time he played with a team as dominant as the current Barca was with Brazil. He was extremely prolific everywhere he played, and he was virtually unstoppable in his prime. I also still think Zidane's overall impact was greater than Messi's. If I had to pick between Messi and Zidane, I'd pick Zidane every time.
Also, Jose Mourinho and Zlatan Ibrahimovic both seem to agree C. Ronaldo is better. I won't say that's completely true, but they make some good points. Part of the reason Messi is scoring as much as he does is the team he is playing with. I'm pretty sure there are many players that would go into that team and score 30-40 goals in a season. C. Ronaldo has never quite got that kind of help.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCLPkN7RnjE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCLPkN7RnjE#)
Ibrahimovic didn't have a video, but his quote was something like this, if Ronaldo had the help Messi does, he would have scored 100 goals in a season.
Now, I'm more of the opinion it's better just to sit back and enjoy than argue over whom is better. They are both great, and there are also many legends in the history of football. Picking the all time best is a nearly impossible task.
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Zidane is not as good as Messi. That's an easy one. That's just a statement that tries to get people into a long argument. Even Zidane doesn't think that. Zidane controlled games but he could never change games as consistently as Messi.
Mourinho said Ronaldo is better than Messi? Of course he would. He's his manager. No way in hell does he believe that.
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Zidane is not as good as Messi. That's an easy one. That's just a statement that tries to get people into a long argument. Even Zidane doesn't think that. Zidane controlled games but he could never change games as consistently as Messi.
Mourinho said Ronaldo is better than Messi? Of course he would. He's his manager. No way in hell does he believe that.
I can agree that Mourinho is probably biased, but I think he genuinely thanks this. He might even if he wasn't manager. What about Ibrahimovic? Why does he think this? I think most would just expect Ibra to claim he's better, but he made it clear he thinks Ronaldo is better.
Zidane was better than Messi. Messi has never made his team better like Zidane did. Messi is just a far better goal scorer than Zidane. Different players with far different roles.
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Lol, redsforlife, Messi has more assists than most players too :P
Also, Ronaldo (the real ronaldo) claimed that Messi is the best player of all time. Who cares what Ibra thinks when big Ronaldo speaks?
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Zidane controlled more to his team because that was his role. Messi isnt the one distributing passes all game. He is the one that gets the ball and 10 later puts it in the goal. Scoring goals is the most important thing in the game, and Messi is one of the best ever to do that.
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Lol, redsforlife, Messi has more assists than most players too :P
Also, Ronaldo (the real ronaldo) claimed that Messi is the best player of all time. Who cares what Ibra thinks when big Ronaldo speaks?
Assists don't always mean superior play maker. Barca scores far more goals than any of Zidane's teams. One could say he had to do more. Many players have said many players are the best player of all time. Some of you guys fail to realize my stance is more neutral than just favoring the popular opinion at the moment. 10yrs from now, the popular opinion will most likely be different.
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What about Ibrahimovic? Why does he think this? I think most would just expect Ibra to claim he's better, but he made it clear he thinks Ronaldo is better.
Ibra has also proclaimed himself as the greatest player. He thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread. Let's not take his opinion too seriously.
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10yrs from now, the popular opinion will most likely be different.
Yes, it will be 100% clear who the best footballer of all time is... Messi.
Messi dominates games far more than Zidane. I agree that Zidane controlled games like few others could, but Messi is a different player, and 95% of manager would take Messi over Zidane.
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Yes, it will be 100% clear who the best footballer of all time is... Messi.
Messi dominates games far more than Zidane. I agree that Zidane controlled games like few others could, but Messi is a different player, and 95% of manager would take Messi over Zidane.
I actually doubt that. Messi is undoubtedly a great player, and he will be listed among the all time greats. I actually think many people will be talking about the new big name player. You do remember when people really mentioned Ronaldinho, Zidane, and Ronaldo as the best ever? This is normal. People like to think their favorite or the best of their time as the best ever. It will most likely be someone else in 10yrs that has the popular opinion.
I still disagree that 95% of managers would take Messi over Zidane. Zidane clearly makes his teammates better with his playmaking abilities. This is something just very few players can do. Messi isn't that type of player. He's clearly extremely effective, but that's not his role. Xavi and Iniesta have that role for Barca.
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I still disagree that 95% of managers would take Messi over Zidane. Zidane clearly makes his teammates better with his playmaking abilities. This is something just very few players can do. Messi isn't that type of player. He's clearly extremely effective, but that's not his role. Xavi and Iniesta have that role for Barca.
Barca would be 3rd best in the world if Messi didn't play for them.
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Barca would be 3rd best in the world if Messi didn't play for them.
Strongly disagree with that. In fact, I think they'd still win La Liga without him which is the strongest league in the world for me. Barca's style of play is one that doesn't rely on one individual near as much as many teams. They wouldn't be quite as free scoring, because Messi is the best finisher. They would still score very often, and they would win most of their games the same. Even if they dropped to 3rd in the world, that's still pretty damn good.
A little off topic, but I'm gonna use basketball as an example. As a kid growing up, everyone told me Michael Jordan was the best player ever. For most of my youth, I 100% agreed with this. Now, there are people saying Lebron James is better, and he is the best ever. The clash of generations is the biggest separation in opinion. Now, I would say Jordan is still better than Lebron, but I wouldn't say either are clearly the best ever. If you look at the history of the NBA, player like Kareem Abdul Jabar, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, etc. must be considered. Chamberlain for one was hands down the most effective scorer in NBA history.
Back to football, it's really the same. The current generation is all about Messi at the moment. Part of it is just popularity, but there is a large part of him performing at a very high level. The thing is, when you look at history you see Pele, Muller, Maradona, etc. performing just as well or better at different points in their careers. Saying he is hands down the best is kind of crazy for me. He will be considered among the best ever, but picking him as that outright number 1 is madness.
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I've watched a lot of Maradona's highlights and many of the legendary matches he was in (recorded ones of course). I've also watched recorded matches of Zico, Cruyff, Best, Di Stefano, and Pele. I watched live matches of Ronaldo (brazil), Ronaldinho, Zidane, and other legends of the last generation. I thoroughly believed Maradona was the best player ever
Two years ago or more, I believed Messi was great but not at the level of the ones I mentioned. Now, Messi is Maradona, but refined and improved. That's why I believe he is the best ever.
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I've watched a lot of Maradona's highlights and many of the legendary matches he was in. I thoroughly believed Maradona was the best player ever
Now, Messi is Maradona, but refined and improved. That's why I believe he is the best ever.
Messi and Maradona are completely different types of players. They are barely comparable. Messi is a 2nd striker, and Maradona was a midfield play maker. Someone asked me to compare the two, and this was the best I could come up with.
I think Maradona was still overall better, and not just because he won a WC. I find Maradona to be technically superior in every aspect of the game with the exception of striking the ball with his right foot. Messi is much better at that, but it didn't hold Maradona back much. In fact, it made him seem more magical as he mastered the rabona technique better than any player ever has. His rabona was as good as any players weak foot. Maradona was also much stronger and grittier in his play. He handled the physical play much better. Maradona was a better overall passer of the ball. Messi and Maradona had very different roles. Maradona was a genuine playmaker. Messi is more like a 2nd striker that looks to do quick combinations and 1v1s to create goals. Messi is also quicker and faster than Maradona. That is probably the biggest advantage Messi has over Maradona as an individual player.
Overall, I choose Maradona. His overall impact to the team is larger. Messi scores more goals, but Maradona did more period.
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I agree that Messi must be the best player in the world. Passing, shooting, quick feet and of course epic ball control... except for his heading ability, he's surely the most efficient player i've ever seen. BUT here's a different story. I find it a bit boring to watch Messi (especially when you watch videos of all his goals), don't know exactly why, but it has something to do with the fact that everything works for him. If he begins his game with Barca, you just know those fluent plays and goals will come. I don't jump out of the sofa when he makes his next goal.
With them other players, and now a huge Madrid fan is speaking, it's a different thing. C. Ronaldo can have such a bad day that you start to pity him, but then out of nowhere he does some amazing thing that makes me think 'hell yeah, right back at ya.' And this is what i like about watching a game of football in general. Ronaldo El Fenomeno did moves in a high-level football game that I had never seen before and for Zidane, well he is a living legend. I don't think we will see someone with more grace than him on a pitch in the next decade at least. He had an effect on the team that made them all calm down and play in a way pfff, i only have a french word for it 'hautain', like we are in charge now. His great personality still makes me look up to him today and he did a way better job in interviews than Messi too if this counts for anything. Definitely check out youtube user 'beplasse' his uploads
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good arguments, and there is no doubt that messi is the best right now, but the question is if he is the best EVER :)
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I agree that Messi must be the best player in the world. Passing, shooting, quick feet and of course epic ball control... except for his heading ability, he's surely the most efficient player i've ever seen. BUT here's a different story. I find it a bit boring to watch Messi (especially when you watch videos of all his goals), don't know exactly why, but it has something to do with the fact that everything works for him. If he begins his game with Barca, you just know those fluent plays and goals will come. I don't jump out of the sofa when he makes his next goal.
With them other players, and now a huge Madrid fan is speaking, it's a different thing. C. Ronaldo can have such a bad day that you start to pity him, but then out of nowhere he does some amazing thing that makes me think 'hell yeah, right back at ya.' And this is what i like about watching a game of football in general. Ronaldo El Fenomeno did moves in a high-level football game that I had never seen before and for Zidane, well he is a living legend. I don't think we will see someone with more grace than him on a pitch in the next decade at least. He had an effect on the team that made them all calm down and play in a way pfff, i only have a french word for it 'hautain', like we are in charge now. His great personality still makes me look up to him today and he did a way better job in interviews than Messi too if this counts for anything. Definitely check out youtube user 'beplasse' his uploads
Cristiano Ronaldo vs Messi comparisons.
Ronaldo is a superior athlete. He's bigger, stronger, and faster. He has more tricks and individual creativity. He's a better all around finisher with his ability to score from distance with both feet, close range, and he is great in the air. Ronaldo is also the superior free kick taker. Positionally, Ronaldo is really a winger that comes inside in attack. As the Mourinho video pointed out, he has much more defensive responsibility.
Messi is probably a little bit quicker and has better control while dribbling. He is also a better passer as the majority of his game is looking to do quick combinations with teammates. Messi is probably the better close range finisher as well. The majority of his goals are inside the penalty box, and he places it past the goal keeper. Positionally, he plays 2nd striker type. He is also typically deployed more central with creative license to roam. He is great at pressuring as a team with his Barcelona teammates, but he mainly just pressures in the attacking half. For Argentina, he plays more like a number 10 role, but it's not really his thing. He has still be successful, but he's not that type of player.
In the end, the past few years Barca has been the better team overall. I have to say Barca definitely helps Messi out more than Real helps out Ronaldo. Most people like to just say, he's the best in the world, but I'm just not that type. Messi was the deserved winner of the Ballon d'Or this year, but other years it should have been closer. Also, this year isn't over. We will have to see what both of them do in the rest of the season.
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Here's where you are missing the point, Jason.
Yes, Ronaldo is more athletic, but who cares?! That's all rubbish. Messi is extremely strong, and not just for someone of his size. He's strong as a bull compared to even the most athletic attacking players (e.g. Ronaldo). Ronaldo is athletic and physically gifted but he's NOT stronger on the ball than Messi. That's a fact. It's not all about your physical build. It's more about your center of gravity, your balance, etc. Messi has much more of this than a physically gifted Ronaldo. Messi bounces of defenders, gets kicked, but nobody can take him down. The ball is always no more than 6 inches off his foot, even when sprinting at full pace.
Best ever. I'm saying it now, and he'll get better, and soon enough he'll undoubtedly be the best ever in his sport... just like Jordan is for the NBA... screw Lebron... he's no Jordan. There are tons of intangibles that Lebron will never get to like Jordan did.
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Messi is strong on the ball, but if you think he's stronger than Ronaldo on the ball, you're kidding yourself. Ronaldo is clearly stronger at holding off players. Messi arguably has better balance, and this is what helps him on his slalom like runs past defenders.
Saying he's outright the best is silly. Just like it is silly to say that about Lebron now. By the way, Chamberlain was better than Jordan. Just look at the stats. Jordan was never as effective as Wilt Chamberlain. Jordan is the best guard to ever play in the NBA, but Chamberlain was the best player for me. There are other guys arguably as good or better than him as well. Football is no different. I cannot say Messi is the best, because it's too hard to tell. I'd pick Pele 100xs over Messi.
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You see Ronaldo diving around? How often does he really keep his balance and strength on the ball? Very rarely... certainly far less than Messi. He might beat Messi in the weight-room, but when you add the mental aspect of the game, Messi is far stronger and more balanced on the pitch.
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Cristiano Ronaldo vs Messi comparisons.
Ronaldo is a superior athlete. He's bigger, stronger, and faster. He has more tricks and individual creativity. He's a better all around finisher with his ability to score from distance with both feet, close range, and he is great in the air. Ronaldo is also the superior free kick taker. Positionally, Ronaldo is really a winger that comes inside in attack. As the Mourinho video pointed out, he has much more defensive responsibility.
Messi is probably a little bit quicker and has better control while dribbling. He is also a better passer as the majority of his game is looking to do quick combinations with teammates. Messi is probably the better close range finisher as well. The majority of his goals are inside the penalty box, and he places it past the goal keeper. Positionally, he plays 2nd striker type. He is also typically deployed more central with creative license to roam. He is great at pressuring as a team with his Barcelona teammates, but he mainly just pressures in the attacking half. For Argentina, he plays more like a number 10 role, but it's not really his thing. He has still be successful, but he's not that type of player.
In the end, the past few years Barca has been the better team overall. I have to say Barca definitely helps Messi out more than Real helps out Ronaldo. Most people like to just say, he's the best in the world, but I'm just not that type. Messi was the deserved winner of the Ballon d'Or this year, but other years it should have been closer. Also, this year isn't over. We will have to see what both of them do in the rest of the season.
I totally agree with this, i mean like every word of it . But I fear Real's season will be done if they screw up in the champions league, too bad for Ronaldo.
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Messi in my heart is great, he is a genius!
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SUPERA EN TODO A DI STÉFANO, CRUYFF Y MARADONA A SU EDAD
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Messi bounces of defenders, gets kicked, but nobody can take him down. The ball is always no more than 6 inches off his foot, even when sprinting at full pace.
Messi rarely (not never) gets seriously injured. He's never tired. He has, essentially, superhuman bursts of speed and the ability to get kicked and hit repeatedly without losing his balance or the ball. This is something that we all can see.
Now, i'm not a scientist, but i'm pretty sure that these are the benefits of an HGH treatment. Don't get into a bundle just yet - i'm aware that he had/has a condition in which is growth was extremely deficient. I am also aware that it was administered professionally and within the realm and scope of his condition. But the benefits of HGH don't just go away. The body doesn't say "alright, i'm 5'7 now, everything can go back to normal." HGH has insane benefits that permeate the body: lean muscle mass and fatigue recovery, increases bone mineralization and calcium retention, anaerobic burst capacity, etc. These benefits don't just leave the body. I also understand that his condition is a life long condition.
All of that being said, I do think Messi is extremely good. However, I think it's very relevant and valid to take these points into consideration. We all see what Messi does on the field and we sit back and act surprised, jaw dropped, as if there couldn't be a possible reason why he is able to just steamroll teams and defenders all while getting pushed and kicked. It wouldn't hurt to think about how his past medically legal and acceptable treatments can still be benefiting him today.
His vision and "football IQ" can't be questioned here. He is clearly a brilliant player. But, as already pointed out, how much of it has to do with Xavi and Iniesta? He seems very much so a product of their enabling ability. The Argentina argument isn't as strong as it used to be, but it has to be said his performances for his national team have been average to good at best - hardly great or amazing. Definitely not trophy winning. He may well be Barcelona's all time leading scorer, or considered their "best player ever," but i will never forget the absolute magic that Ronaldinho created. That was a different breed of player. Although it only lasted 2-3 years, it was the type of skill that, in my honest opinion, has never been replicated by Messi. But, we all have our own opinions right? :Woot_Emoticon:
As far as the Ronaldo debate goes, there are so many ways to tackle it. Firstly, I would hope that we can agree that Messi should not have 4 Ballon d'or awards. At the very most he should have 3, and that's being extremely nice. How the hell was Sneijder not even shortlisted in 2010 after Inter won a historic treble, and also leading his team to the WC final? No way Messi deserved that. What did he do, bounce off enough defenders to win?
Ronaldo should have easily gotten one as well. Breaking Barcelona's stranglehold on La Liga while being the top scorer, not to mention countless records being broken including the first player to score 40 goals in La Liga and the first to win the European Golden Shoe in 2 different leagues. Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't Messi win this award in a year in which he hadn't been able to help his team win a single major trophy? As Mourinho pointed out in that video posted early, does it really make any sense that Messi has 4? He should have 2. Ronaldo should have 2. Wesley should have for sure gotten it in 2010.
These are all opinions of mine. All of the Ballon d'or nonsense aside, you've got to look at this more objectively. Messi cannot be the greatest player for so many reasons. He is surely a great, great player. And when you combine a great, greate player with, what is essentially, one of the greatest teams ever in Spain, of course titles are going to be won. Of course goal scoring records are going to happen. I don't see Ronaldo feeding off of World Cup and Euro winning players to achieve his records. (Yes, there are Spanish nationals on Real Madrid. Ramos, Casillas, and Arbeloa certainly don't provide Ronaldo the type of service Leo is getting. Alonso barely gets a run in with Spain. Madrid are a great team, though, and i can't take that away.)
Ronaldo is more versatile on the field. Ronaldo is very important for defensive setups. Messi is not. Ronaldo is a powerful header of the ball, defensively and offensively. Messi is not. Ronaldo, in England and Spain, has scored mind blowing freekicks. Messi is just learning these. Ronaldo has an incredible penalty conversion rate (last time i checked anyway). Messi is only approaching this. No way in hell do i think Cristiano Ronaldo is the greatest player ever. But he gives Messi much more than a run for his money at being the best player on the planet, and he doesn't get any credit for it. Why? Because he says stupid shit during interviews? Because he's an asshole on the field? You mentioned Jordan at some point in this thread - the biggest asshole of all time in basketball, arguably (only comparing the attitudes here, don't freak.)
So take a step back and analyze your claims of best ever. As far as who I think is the best ever? I don't know. I never watched the other two alleged players play, so it's kind of hard to just come out making these claims. I do know that he hasn't helped his country reach World Cup glory and will most likely live in the shadows of Maradona's Argentine legend no matter what Maradona himself says.
These are Messi's trophies with Argentina:
2008 Olympic Gold Medal
2005 U20 World Cup
Greatest player ever means he should be surpassing the achievements of the other greatest ever, not lacking in them.
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seriously quality post! agreed to all of it :You_Rock_Emoticon:
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messi is the best no doubt, doesn't need to win the world cup, but if he does it will proof hes the best.
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Yes. Messi is the best player, but today.
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If he wins the world cup today, he might actually be considered the best ever!
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Messi's 401 ball In his career
Do not miss the video (https://plus.google.com/113355422272622061241/posts/5MYhWz15b41)
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Hi everyone!
I don't believe that Messi Is greatest ever.I believe in Ronaldo and I think he is the best player in the history of football!!
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Many people address this question as if it were a matter of opinion. Well, it is not. Most questions like this can be addressed in a pretty scientific way by analyzing the data. And, if you do that, the answer is pretty clear: Yes, the best football player of all time is Lionel Messi.
If you don't believe my words, take a look at the very detailed analysis that FiveThirtyEight did during the last World Cup: Lionel Messi Is Impossible
Lionel Messi outperforms everyone, and in particular Cristiano Ronaldo, who appears mostly as second in many statistics in the following aspects:
Overall Scoring Production
Shooting Efficiency
Goal percentage from any given distance
Unassisted Goal Efficiency
One-on-one success rate
Assists per game
Number of long balls played per game
Through-ball passes
Passes by forwards
Value added per offensive action
Goals plus assists per balls played
Plays defended per opponent possession
Given his current performance in Barcelona this year, I am pretty sure the stats are even higher now.
So, no, Messi being the best is not an opinion, it is a fact proven by hard data.
Messi in the 2014 World Cup
Some people will argue that Messis has had a poor performance with the Argentinian national team and in particular in the 2014 World Cup. I also personally agree that Messi did not play his best in the World Cup. Still, he came out of the group stages as being rated number 1 by many (see World Cup 2014 in statistics: the 10 players who excelled in the group stage for example). So even in this relatively negative part of his playing, he stands out as one of the best
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Many people address this question as if it were a matter of opinion. Well, it is not. Most questions like this can be addressed in a pretty scientific way by analyzing the data. And, if you do that, the answer is pretty clear: Yes, the best football player of all time is Lionel Messi.
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5 Reasons why Lionel Messi is the Greatest Of All Time in soccer
#1. Ability to single-handedly influence outcomes
#2. Humility in the face of greatness
#3. Unparallelled close control and dribbling
#4. Underrated footballing intelligence and versatility
#5. Constantly redefining http://www.verifiedsoccertips.com/ footballing benchmarks
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June 24, 1987) is an Argentinian soccer player who plays forward for the FC Barcelona club and the Argentine national team. At the age of 13, Messi moved from Argentina to Spain after FC Barcelona agreed to pay for his medical treatments. There he became a star and led his club to championships
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Sure, He is the best one. Just look at his statistics at Barcelona https://777score.co.uk/football/teams/barcelona-2915 . There is no other words than to say that he is number one.
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Ability to single-handedly influence outcomes
We saw it yesterday and we’ve seen it umpteem times before. How many times does that little man strolling around in the centre of the park suddenly produce a touch, or a dribble, that sparks a dying game into life? He’s done it for Barcelona and he’s done it for Argentina.
At Barca, he ensured that whether it be Pep Guardiola’s philosophy or Luis Enriques’s chaotic galactico management at the helm, he’s seen to it that the club is always numero uno – he’s been pivotal in their 6 La Liga triumphs and 3 Champions League victories, and at times it’s seemed like he’s been doing it all by his lonesome. When you consider the sheer calibre of the teammates around him, you know just how big a feat that is.
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No more goodness in Messi, Neymar is the best one. Basically, you’re betting on one end to win and
the same outcome to mislay at the same time. One side bet with a free bet/promotion, and the
other side with genuine money. You end up making a profit regardless of the result. On the other
hand, you can exchange their bonuses into cash by doing harmonized betting. Brazil is at its high
performance. You cannot withdraw the tips, but you can bet with it.
http://www.soccertipsters.net/tipster/ matched betting certify you will exchange it to cash after
betting. And be faith for consistency win. I hope Brazil will win the World cup again.
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Now Neymar is great not Messi. It is improbable that you would be capable to recognize sufficient
situations of worth in order to decrease the discrepancy sufficient to ensure you win each day.
Presently to win every day, you would necessitate dipping your dissimilarity. To understand this
promise you can hold out soccer tipster and get the genuine tips. Messi is now and forever. At the
present greater than time with more and more bets, conflict becomes condensed and the results will
be inclined towards the mean - due to the law of large numbers.
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Messi is certainly the best of his generation. Cristiano comes close but being the best is not just about statistics, there are things that can't be measured. Messi is a quiet guy but he's always been respected by his teammates and specially lately his leadership has peaked.
I do consider Messi to be the greatest of all time.
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No-one can say who was the greatest with changes in tactics, teammates etc but Messi is the best I have seen. But you can’t ignore Pele Maradona etc. The question should be “who gives/gave you the greatest entertainment” and the answer is Messi. Who was the most successful? Well Pele won 3 World Cups. The question interesting though it is is impossible to answer