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Title: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Adi on Jan 03, 2013, 04:48: AM
Beyond Football Freestyle Competition 2012 - Final Battle

Ahmadreza - Final Video

Ahmadreza (PersianBall) FINAL - BF 2012 Competition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_e-AwqbVM1M#ws)

Mohammad - Final Video

Mohammad PersianBall FINAL BF 2012 Competition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P77pc5MgSK8#ws)

Although JK, Abbas Farid, and Skora will be the official judges, let's see who you all think should win.
Title: Re: BF Final - Who should win?
Post by: Adi on Jan 03, 2013, 04:50: AM
My vote goes to Mohammad.  Both freestylers showed extreme creativity and pulled off some difficult tricks, however Mohammad looked a little smoother and more stylish to me.  I think Ahmadreza did a few more difficult tricks than Mohammad.  However, it came at the expense of style and cleanliness.

Great job by both of you.  Really good stuff!
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: alexfs on Jan 03, 2013, 05:14: AM
bf comp level is much lower than the previous years
no offence to this year finalists, but i'll be honest: they are far behind last year top 4, top 8 .. top 16

Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Adi on Jan 03, 2013, 05:28: AM
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Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: alexfs on Jan 03, 2013, 05:37: AM
i am a hater with 2k posts and was voted member of the month
i think i contributed enough to the forum to give an honest opinion, and i was right btw, this year bf comp is about as exiting and intriguing as cocksuckistan cricket nationals


Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Nalepa on Jan 03, 2013, 05:40: AM
Mohammad was more fluid. Ahmadreza used more acrobatics, but he should have moved one trick into another and used less edits.
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Adi on Jan 03, 2013, 05:40: AM
LOL, just messin with you, you crazy Russian. :grin:
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Royal Freakiness on Jan 03, 2013, 07:44: AM
I agree with Alex that this year's level was no way near the previous years' competition level
obviously in comparison with this year's level around the world this competition is more like an Intermediate/Advanced competition
Past years were really top class, some of the best of the best battling each other.
Mohammad's videos could have done really well though if they were in those years' competitions

Ahmad had crazy creativity but his style... It looks noobish even though the moves are at an amazing level of difficulty
Mohammad was really smooth and creative but the only problem was that some of his combos need more thought put into it. The flow was distorted in some of them.

I vote for Mohammad

Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Adi on Jan 03, 2013, 08:15: AM
This one was setup in short notice and obviously our forum's activity slowed over the last year.  We'll try to make tweaks and adjustments and hopefully we'll be back with a strong 2013 competition.

The judges for this year's competition were certainly one of the best, however.  Props to Yen for organizing!
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: VRK on Jan 03, 2013, 12:16: PM
tie would be so unfair... but that's how hard is to judge these two... two freestylers at an amazing level huge respect to both of them. mohammad would be the winner for me... he had much variety and style in his stuff... ahmadreza did a bit of repitition with his KHB stall stuff and as royal said his style was actually a bit less fluent in comparison to what mohammad has... none of us is good enough to judge these two but still overall the comp. was real good and entertaining.
Yes in the previos years the level was high reason most of the present day freetylers were at their prime skora was at another level... and we also gotta understand that freestyle in itself has changed and evolved so much by now. At that time it was more of doing hardlowers much would blow everyone off... now if you see it's more about style creativity and stringing things together... there is no point comparing the previous comps from what we are seeing today. :engel016:
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Alex17 on Jan 03, 2013, 12:35: PM
Are you guys kidding me?
This might not be lowers but if y'all understood creativity and style, you guys would agree that this comp was freaking awesome!
i vote mohammad, you are crazy my friend! CREATIVE SHIZZNIT! :13:
Ahmadreza good job! next time bro!
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: L_I_S on Jan 03, 2013, 02:13: PM
'Nalepa'
I can't believe it  :017:

Just finished watching both, I didn't even know there was a competition going on :S
Both have done some cool new stuff which I really liked, it's not fair for me to judge since I have almost no experience in the majority of the things they were doing. Muhammed(original name :rolleyes:) probably had more difficult moves but all clips used some sole stall variation which people must be overlooking. When it comes to a stall, once you've perfected it you can do it with ease any time from any combo.
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: VRK on Jan 03, 2013, 07:06: PM
'Nalepa'
I can't believe it  :017:

Just finished watching both, I didn't even know there was a competition going on :S
Both have done some cool new stuff which I really liked, it's not fair for me to judge since I have almost no experience in the majority of the things they were doing. Muhammed(original name :rolleyes:) probably had more difficult moves but all clips used some sole stall variation which people must be overlooking. When it comes to a stall, once you've perfected it you can do it with ease any time from any combo.
:undecided: really???  :lol_hitting:
 :sign0135: you are taking it too casually i guess.  :d030:
using those smileys is so much fun haha :57:

Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Knnthh on Jan 03, 2013, 10:50: PM
Mohammed was better imo, Ahmederza stole more tricks..
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Adi on Jan 04, 2013, 10:29: AM
'Nalepa'
I can't believe it  :017:

 :043:

He's a friend of mine who knows very little, or nothing, about freestyle. :grin:
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Adi on Jan 04, 2013, 10:30: AM
Are you guys kidding me?
This might not be lowers but if y'all understood creativity and style, you guys would agree that this comp was freaking awesome!
i vote mohammad, you are crazy my friend! CREATIVE SHIZZNIT! :13:
Ahmadreza good job! next time bro!

Well said, Alex.  I totally agree.  This final might not live up to the preview battles when it comes to lowers, but man, these guys pulled off some unique and creative stuff.  Nice change.
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Emil Nissen on Jan 04, 2013, 08:08: PM
:undecided: really???  :lol_hitting:
 :sign0135: you are taking it too casually i guess.  :d030:
using those smileys is so much fun haha :57:


yeah haha this one is one of my personal favourites  :character0029:   can never find any reason to use it tho  :cry:
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Adi on Jan 05, 2013, 03:40: AM
13:1 to Mohammad.  Now we just need the judges to vote for Ahmadreza to blow the roof off this place. :grin:
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Zaid Freestyler on Jan 05, 2013, 09:40: AM
Mohammad, was more original than ahmadreza
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: ElNino Ahmadreza on Jan 05, 2013, 11:11: PM
muhammed is arabic ( orginaly is Mohammad in Persian ) :)
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: ElNino Ahmadreza on Jan 05, 2013, 11:13: PM
i want say thanks to all of my friends who organised this competition Yen , Adi ... and Judges ...
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: ElNino Ahmadreza on Jan 05, 2013, 11:37: PM
And another thing I want to say freestyle is not just lower and harcore lower , you can see hardcore in upper in sole in folw style even acrobatic, when we trainig all of time about it, It is clear that we havent time for lower train. cuz we love it than lower and you can more improvment about it , cuz you love it . but Beside it we train lower  for example me , when i did patw , i cant belived i did it cuz i never hard training for it but i did .
and one another intresting thing about us , we trainnig together  ....  If you  practice with your friend in all time or Most of the time . almost ur Moves are usually similar. just like holmberg and pwg  at least more 50%  ... . :)  we training together  While not the same .  its maybe hard but its very usefull for all amature freestyler who want pttern to us.

Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: ElNino Ahmadreza on Jan 05, 2013, 11:51: PM
Mohammed was better imo, Ahmederza stole more tricks..
   

knnthh :
god , 
Mean you, which  tricks bro? 
maybe i used idea but i will developed it , youcan see 2.13 :)  i used luki idea but i develob it ..
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Emil Nissen on Jan 06, 2013, 01:43: AM
lol im the only guy who voted for ahmadreza....feel a little lonely... :bawling:
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Adi on Jan 06, 2013, 02:40: AM
Ahmadreza, nice job man.  It's really cool to see two close friends in the same final of a competition.  Both of you are very creative freestylers, and your take on freestyle is fresh.

Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: ElNino Ahmadreza on Jan 06, 2013, 03:05: AM
thanks , It was also interesting to us.
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: tbc on Jan 07, 2013, 08:40: AM
It is sooooooooooo wrong to compare these to the previous years.
This was so fresh!! I think this style deserves a lot of attention too. There are not many with such transition styles.
I wish some japanese had also participated.
Adi you should probably oragnise a non-lower online competition inviting some japanese. Just a thought
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: VRK on Jan 07, 2013, 11:35: AM
It is sooooooooooo wrong to compare these to the previous years.
This was so fresh!! I think this style deserves a lot of attention too. There are not many with such transition styles.
I wish some japanese had also participated.
Adi you should probably oragnise a non-lower online competition inviting some japanese. Just a thought
true that but japanese guys are least interested in forums and stuff they are always training i doubt if they would compete or not but if that happens it's gonna be crazyyyyy !!!!  :great:
Title: Re: BF Competition Final - Who should win?
Post by: Adi on Jan 07, 2013, 04:26: PM
It is sooooooooooo wrong to compare these to the previous years.
This was so fresh!! I think this style deserves a lot of attention too. There are not many with such transition styles.
I wish some japanese had also participated.
Adi you should probably oragnise a non-lower online competition inviting some japanese. Just a thought

First of all, nice to see your ass around here again.  Keep posting man, we miss you!

And yes, I agree with your feedback on these two finalists, and we'll look into switching it up for the next comp.