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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Freestyle Chat => Topic started by: L_I_S on Dec 22, 2012, 05:02: PM
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Has anyone used them before? Don't lie, you don't get to 90 move combos in 6 months without some help.
I reckon by 2024 we'll have drug tests before freestyle battles. And by 2030 we'll have random tests through out the year for anyone that wants to compete.
Discuss.
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For a sport like freestyle, I think it will be unlikely there is ever testing. I'm sure there is a freestyler that has used a PED of some sort, but I'm not even sure if they did it for freestyle.
I personally don't care. It's your body, so you choice.
As for learning a 90move combo in 6months. Genetics has just as much to do with it as possibly using PEDs. I think many of these supernaturally quick improvers just have ridiculously good genetics.
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I think it would be good (but I guess very unlikely) in the future to have some drug tests for anyone who lands some notable freestyle trick, for example LATW-LATW nt. Wouldnt be fair if someone using steroids landed it first...
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For a sport like freestyle, I think it will be unlikely there is ever testing. I'm sure there is a freestyler that has used a PED of some sort, but I'm not even sure if they did it for freestyle.
I personally don't care. It's your body, so you choice.
As for learning a 90move combo in 6months. Genetics has just as much to do with it as possibly using PEDs. I think many of these supernaturally quick improvers just have ridiculously good genetics.
Agree completely with this post :)
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it would be unfortunate if something like that ever happened... this would just open up a way for short-cut to success for future freestylers... but i don't think we will ever witness doping tests or something taking place before freestyle battles/tournaments.. we should keep it to street... that kind of a scenario would be ridiculous
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it would be unfortunate if something like that ever happened... this would just open up a way for short-cut to success for future freestylers... but i don't think we will ever witness doping tests or something taking place before freestyle battles/tournaments.. we should keep it to street... that kind of a scenario would be ridiculous
Dude, PEDs are extremely common and possibly even the norm in most competitive sports. In freetstyle I think it matters even less really. It's part of sports period. I know many footballers I've competed against are users.
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Dude, PEDs are extremely common and possibly even the norm in most competitive sports. In freetstyle I think it matters even less really. It's part of sports period. I know many footballers I've competed against are users.
i didn't knew that.. i thought drugs are always bad and should never be use... :rolleyes:
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i didn't knew that.. i thought drugs are always bad and should never be use... :rolleyes:
Well i guess Its always better to do things naturally, though i dont know shit about how doping/drugs work in sports
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Well i guess Its always better to do things naturally, though i dont know shit about how doping/drugs work in sports
Define "naturally".
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I don't really get what's ment by performance enchancing drugs. Can it be stuff like suplements too or do you mean the illegal bullshit?
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Define "naturally".
u know without any drugs or doping to make ur performance better
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by naturally he means with hard work and practice... not using things which give you undue advantage over others
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PEDs are considered to be drugs to increase physical and athletic performances. Steroids are just one of the most common types of PEDs, but there are other types of PEDs.
PEDs aren't necessarily dangerous. Some of them are perfectly safe. Some of them are dangerous in some ways. It's actually controversial whether some of these PEDs should be banned.
If you actually want to learn a bit more of them, I recommend watching Bigger, Stronger, Faster: A Steroids Documentary. It taught me alot about PEDs and steroids.
Bigger Stronger Faster - Maior, mais forte, mais rápido - Documentário sobre os anabolz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8ADP6C7rKM#ws)
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Ure probably right, u seem to know much about it. I dont, but can we agree that its better not taking PEDs of any form, whether they are dangerous or not? And do things "naturally" through hard work :)
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@VRK, naturally doesn't only mean 'hard work and practice' lol. Eating stuff which have lots of proteins will help you recovering, giving you 'advantage' over others. So for you this means it's not natural?
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@VRK, naturally doesn't only mean 'hard work and practice' lol. Eating stuff which have lots of proteins will help you recovering, giving you 'advantage' over others. So for you this means it's not natural?
naturally would include all this bro... you can't just do practice and eat nothing... what 'naturally' excludes is the use of illegal PEDs, steroids and other bullshit that one person would take in order to win or come off better against the other who has naturally worked hard... in this way the guy using steroids would have an undue advantage over the other...
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So eating food with much proteins is working hard?
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no, from the start when i said naturally, i meant as VRK says, without taking any PEDs, illegal or not... just by eating properly and working hard on what u want to accomplish
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Some legal supplements aren't natural and some PEDs are natural. It's really just up to some panel to decide whether it's illegal or not.
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No matter what path you take you certainly need hard work. They will only ever do drug testing if lots of money is involved in freestyle ( which I highly doubt will ever happen). A good diet, balancing legs muscles and practise will get you to the top. This sport is still small and the margins between people are not yet small enough for drugs to really matter.
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So eating food with much proteins is working hard?
:wtf: :crazy:
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It's bullshit, it always has to be a bad consequence. It's not good for me, it's risking your health and body for what? To be a bit better then the others? Bullshit.
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:wtf: :crazy:
I'm just repeating what you're saying, just to show you how bad your arguments are in every thread :D Everytime i confront you with what you said you dunno how to respond anymore lol
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I'm just repeating what you're saying, just to show you how bad your arguments are in every thread :D Everytime i confront you with what you said you dunno how to respond anymore lol
you are just repeating the words and not getting the meaning... about the argument there is no effect on it's when you aren't able to interpret/understand what i'm saying
i clearly said naturally means hard work + the normal diet (including the proteins n stuff) not just working hard or just eating lol
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:iagree:
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It's bullshit, it always has to be a bad consequence. It's not good for me, it's risking your health and body for what? To be a bit better then the others? Bullshit.
Not every PED is necessarily bad for your body. Some of them are actually good for you. I personally haven't done any PEDs. I have heard marijuana as a PED. I have done that, but I don't consider it a PED. Saying they are all bad for you is just being uneducated on the subject.
Now, someone else said it. I will say this as well. It is much more important to exercise properly and have proper nutrition whether you use a PED or not.
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It's bullshit, it always has to be a bad consequence. It's not good for me, it's risking your health and body for what? To be a bit better then the others? Bullshit.
Please, tell me you are just trolling!!!
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Now, someone else said it. I will say this as well. It is much more important to exercise properly and have proper nutrition whether you use a PED or not.
spot on
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Emil, VRK:
What do you consider natural probably isnt natural at all. Just look for some ways animal breeding and plant cultivation just in order to save some money.
If you for example think that creatine, carnitine, amino acids or some other supplements are unnatural, you can do some research and find out some of these are naturally produced in your own body, probably making it more natural than what you usually eat. Protein drinks are almost entirely made of milk.
If you train athletics or some other sports, the trainer would actually tell you to take some of these. But its your choice, I suggest you to read some boook about nutritions and then you will decide whether to take these or not. I was initially reluctant too, but since I read taking some of these supplements could help me prevent some of my injuries, I decided to give it a try.
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spot on
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Many illegal PEDs are also natural, so that has nothing to do with it. Testosterone is produced naturally by everyone. It is also one of the most commonly used PEDs.
Onas- I don't think Marko was trolling. It's a common belief to many that PEDs are bad for you. I used to think the same, but I've done my research.
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I'm not trolling, I'm very serious about that. You can't convince me to think different, sorry.
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Well guys, i dunno shit about PEDs or any kind of that stuff, so as long as it is hasnt got any bad consequenses then Its all good, i guess :)
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legal PEDs = good
illegal PEDs = bad :grin:
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Pineapples have the most amino acids, so eat small amounts of it regularly.
Kangaroo meat has amazingly high protein to any other macro ratio.
Flax seeds are super good but I forget the reason.
Eat those and you'll have an advantage over people who eat like shit and train just as hard as you. All natural and they will enhance your performance.
I'm not trolling, I'm very serious about that. You can't convince me to think different, sorry.
You know that doctors prescribe steroids, right? That means they can be taken safely.
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I'm not trolling, I'm very serious about that. You can't convince me to think different, sorry.
At least you apoligized.
Emil:
Btw, maybe I just got a little overexcited about this talk about PEDs and didnt realize you are just 14. So you are probably too young for taking some of these anyway. But I would suggest you just buying some book about nutritions. Dont listen to anybody here on the forum, just read some book about it (I mean nutritions in general, not just supplements), so as LIS mentioned before, you might have advantage over others who train as hard as you do. And if you ever decide to take any supplement and be sure it wont do anything bad to you, just consult it with a doc (Y)
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roger that thanks for advices :) i never really wanted to take some of that supplements but i'll clearly read some about if im gonna use it
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there is a lot know-how about everything... so is the thing with PED's but saying that emil is just 14 and would know less about them... i think it's the case with almost everyone (excluding athletes who know what to take and what not) people perceive PEDs in a bad way almost every time. but having information about the goods and bads of even PEDs could make us use them sensibly :)
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L_I_S, you should make a thread for the best natural foods that will give you similar results to pills, powders, energy drinks, etc.
For example, I hear eating bananas and raisins will do as much as drinking Gatorade and energy bars. I think we need a thread like this. Would be nice if you shared your knowledge so we can discuss specific foods for specific results/gains/benefits.
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I was taking T during my army duty, 500mg per week. I must admit, it was a great period. I'd hit the weights in the gym hard and after that do a 3 hours practice session like it was nothing.
But now I'm feeling the side effects. My style's got really bad, so now I only do show tricks. :(
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I was taking T during my army duty, 500mg per week. I must admit, it was a great period. I'd hit the weights in the gym hard and after that do a 3 hours practice session like it was nothing.
But now I'm feeling the side effects. My style's got really bad, so now I only do show tricks. :(
lmao
L_I_S, you should make a thread for the best natural foods that will give you similar results to pills, powders, energy drinks, etc.
For example, I hear eating bananas and raisins will do as much as drinking Gatorade and energy bars. I think we need a thread like this. Would be nice if you shared your knowledge so we can discuss specific foods for specific results/gains/benefits.
I don't think I have enough content to make an entire thread. The one's I mentioned are great for people who don't want to use supplements, the major supplements are protein and amino acids. Which I've covered. In the thread with interesting facts pictures there was a lot of extra stuff there. I have another one, bananas are great for preventing stitches/cramps. I don't know the reason behind it though but I'm sure google will be of some help.