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General Category => General Chat => Topic started by: Royal Freakiness on Dec 16, 2012, 02:00: PM
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Red Bull 400: The hardest 400m Run in Europe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z94NVESBto0#ws)
Would anyone here participate?
Which home exercises do you think would help in this sort of feat? Home exercises without the use of equipments, e.g. "mountain climbers" (so obvious...)
I'd love to participate, as long as the roll back down won't hurt coz I'm pretty sure my legs won't listen to me and start trembling, causing me to tumble hard. :043:
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I'd rather do something like this than the 5K races I see all the time locally. This you actually have to be a damn good athlete to do. Too many people at these 5Ks talk about how healthy they are for exercising and running these races, but they have beer bellies and can barely run at all. There are some real athletes that do these, but they are a small minority. They also win the race every time. I am definitely being a bit harsh, but I had to work a damn 5K this morning waking up at 5am.
This looks like something I'd actually feel like I accomplished something. I used to run far more than a 5K on a daily basis, so that's not an accomplishment at all. I think hill runs would be the best exercise for this. Just do as many as you can on the steapest hills you can find.
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-Mountain climbers with a backpack
-One arm mountain climbers
-Tempo from 1:2 > 1:3
-Accelerate, slow down, accelerate etc
-Start at the hardest variation and then work your way down without a rest in between
-Train in cold and in warm temperatures
-Shorten ROM and accelerate speed upped
-Time yourself for 400m runs and try and beat it over and over
-Run up hills
-Jumping jacks
-Squat jumps
-Burpees
I think that's enough for a while.
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I would love to participate, I think it must be VERY beneficial for improving speed!
I agree, 5K is shit. Imo, even marathon races arent something special nowadays.
Jan once tried marathon race and managed to run over 30 kilometers, I think he didnt even train for it :Woot_Emoticon:
I think I wouldnt get over 15K at the moment though
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Having ran quite a few 400m's. If you really push yourself for this (like try as fast as you can) you will be absolutly DESTROYED 75% in. I wouldnt try this unless I practiced it :p.
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-Mountain climbers with a backpack
-One arm mountain climbers
-Tempo from 1:2 > 1:3
-Accelerate, slow down, accelerate etc
-Start at the hardest variation and then work your way down without a rest in between
-Train in cold and in warm temperatures
-Shorten ROM and accelerate speed upped
-Time yourself for 400m runs and try and beat it over and over
-Run up hills
-Jumping jacks
-Squat jumps
-Burpees
I think that's enough for a while.
thanks!
I asked for home exercises coz my schedule is srsly so busy so i can't go to any real hills outside my compound... :bawling:
I've been doing the exercises in bold
mountain climbers with a backpack is definitely something I want to do. Maybe I'll buy a weight vest or something.
I want to try something this challenging to check my progress. I've been doing a lot of High Intensity Interval Training at home and also Super Human Intensity Interval Training (my heart feels like it's going to pop when I do these...).
I enjoy watching these amazing feats of strength and willpower. There's a private area close to where I live that has a pretty steep hill. If only I had the time and the access... :bawling:
Also, most filipinos who aren't professional athletes are flabby, slow, and weak. I want to make sure my fitness level is above theirs so I can continue to enjoy raping footballers at public football fields. :grin:
Problem is... I'm fat :embarrassed:
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What does your HIIT training consist of? How many sets and for how long etc
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Marathons are getting really popular here in Texas. No idea why all of a sudden, but more and more people are participating.
This is genius though. Love what Red Bull is doing, and I'd love to participate in something like this.
There are also some marathons around here which are 3K but they include an obstacle course which is pretty awesome! Going through mud, climbing, etc. Sounds fun.
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What does your HIIT training consist of? How many sets and for how long etc
I have a few different routines for different days. I work out every saturdays, sundays, tuesdays, and wednesdays.
this is 1 of them
30 seconds each, no rest, 3 sets + 1 more set of mountain climbers to end -
Mountain Climbers
Plank
Elbow to knee crunches
this is one of the SHIIT (super human intensity interval training) mornings I do
after every routine I rest 1min and 30sec.
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10 burpees
sprint 50 yards
rest 30 seconds then repeat 5 times
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30 seconds of jump rope
30 seconds of mountain climbers
sprint the distance of a basketball court twice (forwards then backwards)
rest 30 seconds then repeat 3 times
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20 seconds of jump squats
20 seconds of push ups
20 seconds of burpees
rest 30 seconds then repeat 3 times
I plan on doing 30 seconds for all of them but I can't muster enough power to do 30seconds yet because i'm... fat.
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Looks good for what you're training for. But didn't you say you wanted to lower your body fat too? The most efficient way is to work at 50-60% of your max heart rate while doing any exercise for at least 10 minutes. Generally jogging would be the easiest one to do. If you need any help with that, let me know.
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My friend told me jumping over skipping rope for 10 minutes equals to 60 minutes of jogging when it comes to burning fat. Dont know where he got it from though.
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My friend told me jumping over skipping rope for 10 minutes equals to 60 minutes of jogging when it comes to burning fat. Dont know where he got it from though.
No chance in hell. First 3 minutes or so are calories from carbs, the rest may be calories from fat.
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No chance in hell. First 3 minutes or so are calories from carbs, the rest may be calories from fat.
Dont know, but imo skipping rope excercise is more intensive workout than some jogging. I might ask him to provide me with some sources, but that mofo has really low body fat.
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Dont know, but imo skipping rope excercise is more intensive workout than some jogging. I might ask him to provide me with some sources, but that mofo has really low body fat.
Running will use larger muscle groups, so it will burn more calories. Now, all of this depends on the intensity of the exercises. Swimming on average is actually the highest calorie burner, but the exercise doesn't directly translate to his type of competition. Burning calories only has to do with how much energy your body must use to perform the activity. The larger muscle groups and higher intensity of the activity the more calories will be burned.
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Dont know, but imo skipping rope excercise is more intensive workout than some jogging. I might ask him to provide me with some sources, but that mofo has really low body fat.
Yes, I agree, it much more difficult. But that doesn't mean it will burn more calories from your fat storage.
Since we're on the topic..today I became a qualified gym instructor!
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Yes, I agree, it much more difficult. But that doesn't mean it will burn more calories from your fat storage.
Since we're on the topic..today I became a qualified gym instructor!
Congrats! So youre gonna help people just with excercise and stuff, or did you make some nutritionist courses as well?
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Congrats! So youre gonna help people just with excercise and stuff, or did you make some nutritionist courses as well?
Thanks! I'm not qualified to give nutritional advice, I can only tell people to eat healthy foods, variety of different foods and a range of different foods, nothing too specific. I can't say eat this food at 1pm and drink this drink with it. Only a Dietitian can do that.
So if anyone needs any help, let me know!
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Thanks! I'm not qualified to give nutritional advice, I can only tell people to eat healthy foods, variety of different foods and a range of different foods, nothing too specific. I can't say eat this food at 1pm and drink this drink with it. Only a Dietitian can do that.
So if anyone needs any help, let me know!
Nutritional advice is difficult. It's so much more difficult, because diets need to vary person to person depending on your workouts and body types.
I don't get where you are thinking jumping rope is harder than running. Maybe, because your legs get tired. You are using smaller muscle groups more repetitive, so these muscles are getting tired. Running uses many muscle groups, so you are definitely burning more calories.
LIS- you are a gym instructor? I thought about doing that as I already know alot about it. I just chose to pursue coaching football instead.
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It's harder because you are forced to use a higher heart rate, one that is more difficult to maintain. Which is why you can't go for 1 hour skipping sessions but a 1 hours jogging session is possible. I'm not talking about energy expenditure.
In Australia we don't have to pay much for education in most cases, I don't know how it is in America but according to TV it is very expensive. If it's not I'd definitely recommend doing it as it will benefit your football coaching.
Here's something I learned that I had no idea about before. You aren't supposed to do static stretches before you start training. Static stretches will cause small muscle tears which will hinder your work out as it is like working them but in a different way. Static stretches should be done at the end of a workout. Dynamic stretches before.
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It's harder because you are forced to use a higher heart rate, one that is more difficult to maintain. Which is why you can't go for 1 hour skipping sessions but a 1 hours jogging session is possible. I'm not talking about energy expenditure.
In Australia we don't have to pay much for education in most cases, I don't know how it is in America but according to TV it is very expensive. If it's not I'd definitely recommend doing it as it will benefit your football coaching.
Here's something I learned that I had no idea about before. You aren't supposed to do static stretches before you start training. Static stretches will cause small muscle tears which will hinder your work out as it is like working them but in a different way. Static stretches should be done at the end of a workout. Dynamic stretches before.
Your heart won't be going quicker by skipping rope unless you are actually doing it very intense, but jogging extremely casually. Skipping rope uses smaller muscle groups, so these muscles tire quicker. Have you ever noticed how juggling sitting down tires your legs quicker than juggling standing? It's because you use smaller muscle groups. Your heart rate is higher based on the energy expenditure of the body. You typically use more energy using larger muscle groups. You don't have to swim near has hard as you have to run to burn the same amount of calories. Your heart rate gets higher based on the energy used in the exercise.
Check this out: http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc (http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc)
It doesn't have jump rope. I used jumping jacks as it's actually probably more vigorous and you are using larger muscle groups since you add the arms. I also used running 5mph. That's very slow. Moderate jumping jacks was far less calorie burning. Vigorous was about the same. Running faster would only make it even more so. It's just smaller muscle groups doing repetitive movements that makes it so tiring.
On the physical fitness thing. I actually have had to take classes and stuff for being a soccer coach. I've also had to take several nutrition classes. The thing is they are all extremely expensive. Every type of education is expensive in the US. Our cheapest forms of education are expensive compared to other countries.
I knew you weren't supposed to stretch static before exercise. You are supposed to warm up your muscles before stretching or doing vigorous exercise. You should cool down and stretch statically after exercise.
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I don't know about you but my heart starts racing when I skip but when I jog it's pretty slow when compared. I can't keep skipping for long but I can jog at least 6 times as long which is easier to do. You don't have to train as much to jog for 5 mins but you have train a lot to be able to skip for 5 mins. Therefore it is more difficult. Why you're bringing up the rest of that? We're debating which is more difficult.
That's a good site! But it doesn't tell you what calories you're burning..that would be a lot more difficult to calculate.
Yea of course you do, it's not something you just jump into. That's pretty bad, only the rich or very clever can become better in that kind of system.
Yea, but most people don't know that because it wasn't until 10 years or less(don't quote me on that) that people did more research into it and learnt that it was detrimental to your workout to static stretch. I bet almost all the freestylers here that stretch start off with juggling to warm up their muscles and then jump into static stretches.
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I can't jump rope as long as I can jog, because I always fuck up and trip over the rope. I will say this. It's easier to jog at extremely low intensities than it is to jump rope low intensity. On average I'd say running of any type will raise your hear rate more. That being said, if I jump rope I'm going almost as fast as I can jump rope, because that's the easiest speed for some reason. It's easier for the rhythm.
The site is decent. It's obviously not completely accurate as it also is for the average person of that weight. More muscular people are burning far more calories on average than what this site will say. Also, there are just so many things to consider when exercising that could cause for different amounts of calorie burn. I just use it as an decent guesstimate and to see what my maintenance calorie intake should be.
The education system is fucked up here. I dropped out of school for that reason. It was either work and make money, or go to school and work(won't have near as much time and make far less money) and be completely broke and in debt. Which one makes more sense?