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Soccer => Soccer Forum => Topic started by: TheKingNut on May 09, 2008, 02:06: PM
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There has been so much hype about Ronaldo, and rightly so for his performances in the Premiership over the past two/three years but do we have another Thierry Henry on our hands? He loves playing against teams like Wigan, Newcastle and the like but for me he goes missing when the big games come around. In both Barcelona legs, Messi proved himself to have the edge over the Portugese winger. Who can remember the Champions league Semi last season? He got found out by AC Milan. A team discovered a way to stop him so he started sulking, just the same way Henry did for France. International coaches were tactically sound enough to realise by defending deep against the frenchman, he turned in subdued, average performances without having the space in behind to exploit. Henry would then cry at news conferences complaining about this.
Until Ronaldo can take a big game by the scruff of the neck, the way greats like Zidane,Maradona,Cruyff and Beckenbauer did in the past then a question mark looms over him in my personal opinion. I'd love to see him do it, I do not in anyway have a hatred for the player, I just dislike the belief that he is already a player with which people are including in the same sentences as the greats.
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+1 karma for that post, so true
football is starting to be about looks and this disgusts me. C.Ronaldo and Beckham are 50% skill and 50 % makeup just filthy
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How can you call him overated, he plays in the mid and is top scorer. and he is more consistant then any other player, every game you can gaurantee he will either score or get an assist. he will prove himself against these top teams just wait :thumbsup:
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this truley must be post of the week.
borg you better post this in that thread of yours
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this truley must be post of the week.
borg you better post this in that thread of yours
you know he won't. I think Ronaldo is a great player, but it is true that he hasn't proved himself against top competition...except in the Euro and World Cups. He dominates there.
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+1 karma for that post, so true
football is starting to be about looks and this disgusts me. C.Ronaldo and Beckham are 50% skill and 50 % makeup just filthy
Tito, I'm not sure about that. My point was simply that Ronaldo hasn't performed in the big games yet on a consistent basis, and please don't have a dig at my boy Becks. Beckham is a player who consistently provided for Man Utd/Real Madrid in the Champions League and for England. Do you remember when Beckham single handedly dragged England away from the clutches of the World Cup play offs by producing an heroic performance and a stunning free kick against Greece? There are too many people who believe what they read in the media. Most journalists have never played the game and for the most part are incorrect in there beliefs.
Ronaldo has still got something to prove. Totalfootball10, since when has he dominated at the Euro and World Cup? Did he dominate like Zidane when he bagged two in the final? or like Maradona when he won the World Cup by himself in 86? No he hasn't, and this is my point. I am not saying Ronaldo is not the best player in the world today, he might be, but his name cannot be said in the same breath as the greats of the game. Ronaldo still has a little to go before he gets there. Maybe he'll prove it in this years Champions League final or the Euro? I hope he does
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he might be, but his name cannot be said in the same breath as the greats of the game
It has been very premature. He is still only 23.
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+1 karma for that post, so true
football is starting to be about looks and this disgusts me. C.Ronaldo and Beckham are 50% skill and 50 % makeup just filthy
Tito, I'm not sure about that. My point was simply that Ronaldo hasn't performed in the big games yet on a consistent basis, and please don't have a dig at my boy Becks. Beckham is a player who consistently provided for Man Utd/Real Madrid in the Champions League and for England. Do you remember when Beckham single handedly dragged England away from the clutches of the World Cup play offs by producing an heroic performance and a stunning free kick against Greece? There are too many people who believe what they read in the media. Most journalists have never played the game and for the most part are incorrect in there beliefs.
Ronaldo has still got something to prove. Totalfootball10, since when has he dominated at the Euro and World Cup? Did he dominate like Zidane when he bagged two in the final? or like Maradona when he won the World Cup by himself in 86? No he hasn't, and this is my point. I am not saying Ronaldo is not the best player in the world today, he might be, but his name cannot be said in the same breath as the greats of the game. Ronaldo still has a little to go before he gets there. Maybe he'll prove it in this years Champions League final or the Euro? I hope he does
he had a great tournament in 2004, and braely anybody could take the ball off him in 2006. It was ridiculous.
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he might be, but his name cannot be said in the same breath as the greats of the game
It has been very premature. He is still only 23.
Exactly. Although it's a good post, and a nice discussion, give him a break, he's still young. Messi has played in a lot of meaningful games such as U19 finals(?) and winning tons of awards. Messi has matured faster than Ronaldo I guess. The more awards won and big games Ronaldo is in, the better he'll be. Time will tell.
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Its not a question of faster development...although messi is better than Ronaldo was 2-3 years ago. Ronaldo used to be a player who would make a few great plays every game (usually crosses) that would change the game and sometimes win it. Now that he has become a dominant player, he has to adjust to an entirely different role. I know, because I am the kind of player C. Ronaldo was a few years ago. I dont dominate. Messi, in contrast to Ronaldo, is a naturally dominant player who has to see alot of the ball to do the same amount as Ronaldo would do with a little of the ball. I;m not saying anybody is better or worse, I'm saying Messi is more dominant by nature, and Rnaldo more efficient.
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without ronaldo man united would be nothing
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I don't know about that. We've got so much talent and skill. Sure Ronaldo is our best player and can win games for us, but look how much games Tevez has won for us, and the amazing defence we got against Barcelona both games. You can't give all the credit to Ronaldo. Even he said the defence saves us.
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A very good point about the defence against Barca. It was yet another big European night that Ronaldo failed to produce in, didn't he miss a pen? Would Maradona or Pele do that? Me thinks not. Man Utd's defence were the reason they progressed and not Ronaldo which highlights why my post is completely correct. A fantastic player he may be, but not a great......yet
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Oh you can't only take one game and compare. He was great against Arsenal and Liverpool in the league games. Just give him time, he will shine for Portugal next month.
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if he is still young why do you guys go on and on about him like he is the best player in history.
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second video is for you guys :cheers:
http://www.cristianoronaldoworld.com/videos.php
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any fool can make a video of another fool, you fool
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He loves playing against teams like Wigan, Newcastle and the like but for me he goes missing when the big games come around.
Until Ronaldo can take a big game by the scruff of the neck, the way greats like Zidane,Maradona,Cruyff and Beckenbauer did in the past then a question mark looms over him in my personal opinion. I just dislike the belief that he is already a player with which people are including in the same sentences as the greats.
Thats straight gospel but I've been saying around here for years. And as usual his league of loyal worshipers will somehow come up with some kind of an excuse or try to switch up the whole argument.
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hahaha we finally have another c.ronaldo hater to counter those lovers
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hahaha we finally have another c.ronaldo hater to counter those lovers
its not about hate and love... :rolleyes:
I agree that he hasn't proved himself enough yet
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oh now he's not good enough. what happened to he is the best player. you fool. your contridicting your self
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oh now he's not good enough. what happened to he is the best player. you fool. your contridicting your self
There's a huge difference between being the best player in the world right now and being one of the best players of all time.
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Cristiano is a world class player no doubts about that.. I can agree abit that he's overrated but come on he still has lot of years to prove that he's among the players like Pele, Maradona etc... Personally i doubt that you can compare those players.. They played so many years ago, and the players are way better now than they were before.. But all the goals he scored as a winger is just fantastic.. I'm sure that he already is better than pele and maradona was, but it doesnt help much when the players now are waaaay better and with some better looking shorts :biggrin:
He's a fucking primadonna that's why he will never get to the real top... Plus he plays for Man Utd.. GAY TEAM :banana:
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EPL Champions, 2006-2008. :cheers:
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EPL Champions, 2006-2008. :cheers:
:cheers: yeeaaaaahhhh
anyhow...just because he hasn't proven himself as much as I might like, he has played some outstanding games against some great teams...I think we can agree that he is just about the best player right now...but definitely not ever...yet...probably won't happen anyways
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EPL Champions, 2006-2008. :cheers:
:cheers: yeeaaaaahhhh
anyhow...just because he hasn't proven himself as much as I might like, he has played some outstanding games against some great teams...I think we can agree that he is just about the best player right now...but definitely not ever...yet...probably won't happen anyways
i've been waiting to hear that from a c.ronaldo lover for years. now i can surley say that TF10 is the only rational and non gay c.ronaldo lover
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PFA Player of the Year
Football Writers' Player of the Year
Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year
United Players' Player of the Year
United Goal of the Season (Portsmouth)
Barclays Player of the Season
Barclays Golden Boot
Barclays Merit Prize
Barclays Premier League Champions
And that's only this year! :bowdown:
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anyhow...just because he hasn't proven himself as much as I might like, he has played some outstanding games against some great teams...I think we can agree that he is just about the best player right now...but definitely not ever...yet...probably won't happen anyways
Was this even the arguement? If so, it's pointless. We won't know if he's the best ever until he retires and people start feeling nostalgic because of his absence. It happened with Zidane and just about every other great player. People won't see the greatness in Ronaldo until he's done. It's sad but true. :rolleyes:
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its not sad. when he is done world football will rejoice in him absence
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its not sad. when he is done world football will rejoice in him absence
:stupid:
Actually, that was pretty funny moby dick. :thumbsup:
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anyhow...just because he hasn't proven himself as much as I might like, he has played some outstanding games against some great teams...I think we can agree that he is just about the best player right now...but definitely not ever...yet...probably won't happen anyways
Was this even the arguement? If so, it's pointless. We won't know if he's the best ever until he retires and people start feeling nostalgic because of his absence. It happened with Zidane and just about every other great player. People won't see the greatness in Ronaldo until he's done. It's sad but true. :rolleyes:
yeah especially in the example of moby :cheers:
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How the fuck can people say Ronaldo is overrated is beyond me.
Wake the fuck up. The guy has scored 41 goals in 49 games playing 95% of the games from the wing, 31 in the league alone which no one has managed to do so in 12 years, won every single individual award PL has to offer, top scorer in the CL as well. All this and much more and some people are still doubting him?
Lets be honest now; If those were Messi's stats no one would doubt the fact he was the best.
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Best post in a while. :bowdown:
Golo did see the Man Utd awards? He's won all of those also. :biggrin:
And, how many goals has he got in the CL in comparison to how many CL games he's played? Unbelievable. ;)
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good post, golo :cheers:
if you look at output hes the best, and if you look at the pure difference he makes every time he touches the ball, hes also probably the best right now.
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How the fuck can people say Ronaldo is overrated is beyond me.
Wake the fuck up. The guy has scored 41 goals in 49 games playing 95% of the games from the wing, 31 in the league alone which no one has managed to do so in 12 years, won every single individual award PL has to offer, top scorer in the CL as well. All this and much more and some people are still doubting him?
Lets be honest now; If those were Messi's stats no one would doubt the fact he was the best.
I started the topic and my opinion was simply that he should not be put in the same sentence as the greats yet which has been written in the media. My main reason for this was that he hadn't performed in the big occasions yet. A fully fit Messi is a bigger game player and I think a more likely candidate to be a true great. If Ronaldo turns it on, on Wednesday then I think may opinion may begin to change. It may sound stupid to judge a player on one game, but to me, before you can be considered to be going towards greatness then you must hugely influence a huge game. Ronaldo is awesome, I think he could go down as the greatest Portugese player ever, better than Eusebio, which is quite an achievement but he still has a long career ahead and a lot to still achieve to get there.
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as the king nut stated. yes he has done well against teams like wigan, totenham, bolton. now release messi against those teams then you would understand.
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well, we'll all be watching closely on wednesday :thumbsup:
did anybody see how he toyed with arsenal, though? That proved to me that he has the stuff...now can he use it...
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as the king nut stated. yes he has done well against teams like wigan, totenham, bolton. now release messi against those teams then you would understand.
"yes he has done well against teams like wigan, totenham, bolton"
You're making it sound like that's an easy thing to do, Moby. Playing "well" in the best league in the world with so much consistancy every week isn't as easy as you make it to be. If a player who scores 31 goals in 34 games, from the wing btw, is overrated then what the fuck were all the players that are better than him doing? Why the fuck weren't they owning the fuck out of the league sweeping all the awards in the process for 2 seasons in a row?
"Teams like wigan and tottenham" ... well fucking hell man, those are some good clubs and there are 4 "big" clubs in the premiership and Ronaldo is playing in one of them so there aren't really that many "big matches" to be played in England. But oh my word, he has scored against 2 of the 3 other big clubs, what happened there? Oh, and I'm sure, 6 consecutive titles, Lyon and, consecutive Seria A runner up (a league which, I'm sure, you belive it's better/harder than the PL) Roma are fucking walks in the park as well.
"now release messi against those teams then you would understand. "
What would exactly happen? Messi would score for fun? Would be exciting to watch? Well that's exactly what Ronaldo has done, but oh since you don't like him he's overrated.
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I think each person has a point, but ronaldo is the best player in the world right now. He is not, however, an all time great...yet...
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Yet. He's still young, all those greats were known as greats after they had done their job. Like Adi said before, he'll be missed and praised when he's done.
Golo, you have the best posts, and they make up for all those times you're busy getting head. :bowdown:
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Yet. He's still young, all those greats were known as greats after they had done their job. Like Adi said before, he'll be missed and praised when he's done.
Golo, you have the best posts, and they make up for all those times you're busy getting head. :bowdown:
all true...I trust Borg has confirmation :biggrin:
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I think each person has a point, but ronaldo is the best player in the world right now. He is not, however, an all time great...yet...
Duh! I think that's pretty obvious considering the fact that he's only 23. There was no player that was considered an all time great at that age.
I love you too, Borg. :hello:
no I think Pele was...but that was in a different time.
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I deleted that post cause I wanted to add something but nevermind now.
I think Pele wasn't. It easy to think that now and obviously we weren't there at the time in order to claim it for sure but I don't think he was. People surely talked about him becoming a great but that's different.
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I deleted that post cause I wanted to add something but nevermind now.
I think Pele wasn't. It easy to think that now and obviously we weren't there at the time in order to claim it for sure but I don't think he was. People surely talked about him becoming a great but that's different.
He was dubbed 'official national treasure' at that age, so I think everyone heralded him as a great. And when you say you think he wasn't, do you mean you think he wasn't an all time great, or that he wasn't considred an all time great at 23?
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This is going a bit off but oh well.
I don't think he was considered an all time great, legend of a player at 23.
"Official national treasure"; Owen was labelled as the golden boy of english football once which means he was considered as a potential great, just like Pele but the difference is Pele turned out to be a recognized as true footballing legend, an all time great.
It's like Adi said; once the player is done you can really see and admire his worth and sometimes it can make you belive you had the exact same opinion of him when he was still at his prime, or even before.
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the difference is that only british people labelled owen like that, whereas the entire world was talking about the phenomenon that was pele
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Thats right, Owen was being touted as the "English Pele" when he burst onto the scene, which was wrong. It is typical of the English press though to build someone up to knock them down.
I think people are slightly going off the topic. I never stated that Ronaldo would not go onto be a true great, I was merely trying to state that in my opinion, if he fails to show up on the European and World occasions then I don't think anybody could justify him as being a true great. In my eyes I believe a fully fit Messi to be a greater player. Ronaldo has been awesome this season and I am looking forward to the years building up to the World Cup in 2010 and the World Cup itself. I think we will find out a lot more about the two greatest players in the world right now, Messi and Ronaldo, and whether they will go down as a footballing legends.
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and....
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I've completed my post now....I sent it by accident before but now it is in full
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I completely agree with that last sentence. I'm glad you added it :thumbsup:
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The ONE thing that sets Ronaldo apart from Messi is his ability to stay injury free. If you are a flashy player, you are likely to be more injury prone. Messi plays well for 2 months, sits out for 1 month, and then comes back for another 2 months.
I think Ronaldo is already great but he'll continue to build on his game because of his ability to remain healthy.
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You should know Adi, as well as me, that injuries are just bad luck. Ronaldo has just as much chance of getting injured as Messi in the future, but for the time being Ronaldo is having a good run and not picking up any major injuries
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however, recovery time does indicate nhatural athleticism and also determination. But over all it is mainly luck. So yeah, Adi's point is null and void. There is no point in continuing this until after the CL finals.
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Ok, I think we can put this debate to rest. Performing well in big matches? Well, they don't come much bigger than that.
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Ok, I think we can put this debate to rest. Performing well in big matches? Well, they don't come much bigger than that.
indeed.
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Honestly, what makes Ronaldo better than Carlos Pavon?
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the ridiculous goal total, etrc, etc, etc
stop vouching for less famous players. Very often, theres a reason why they're less famous.
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Oh please, you want to talk rediculous goal tally? Pavon tallied up 15 goals in only 20 appearances in the 2005-2006 season with Communicaciones. But no, no one talked gave him a thread. Pavon currently has 3 goals in 2 appearances with Real Espana, after leaving the Los Angeles Galaxy because they weren't a good enough team for him to be honest. Don't give me that shit. Ronaldo isn't that good when you think about players like Pavon, Costly, etc. :rolleyes:
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look at the clubs he plays against...thats like saying a player in the MLS who scores 30 goals in a season is better than C. Ronaldo. Both of the players you mentioned are great players, but not on par with C Ronaldo. Others are, but not them. And Ronaldo isn't even a striker, so...
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he's joking
stop vouching for less famous players
he's honduran. they're honduran. :dontknow:
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I should hope so...lol maybe he has a new obsession, though
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So what? Ronaldo scores vs Wigan, Sunderland, etc. You think some MLS teams can't beat them? You're wrong. I'd bet money that MLS teams could compete and probably beat teams like Fulham and Wigan. So Ronaldo scores vs them, but Pavon can't score vs MLS teams? Get off me. You're completely wrong. Ronaldo doesn't seem to be on par with players like Welcome, Suazo, and Pavon. Especially Suazo; he'd shit on Ronaldo, striker or not. Suazo is a more proven player.
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I think that ronaldo did great yesterday, apart from the penalty that he missed
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So what? Ronaldo scores vs Wigan, Sunderland, etc. You think some MLS teams can't beat them? You're wrong. I'd bet money that MLS teams could compete and probably beat teams like Fulham and Wigan. So Ronaldo scores vs them, but Pavon can't score vs MLS teams? Get off me. You're completely wrong. Ronaldo doesn't seem to be on par with players like Welcome, Suazo, and Pavon. Especially Suazo; he'd shit on Ronaldo, striker or not. Suazo is a more proven player.
proven? Ronaldo scores against everyone...he just scored Man U's only goal against Chelsea in the CL Finals....pffft more proven
I'll give you the fact that some MLS teams could maybe beat the likes of Wigan, but C Ronaldo still scored more than Pavon did in the MLS, while not even being a striker
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Suazo single handedly gave Inter Milan the title this season. You want to talk proven? Suazo is on the path to greatness, and the light is shining on him far more than on Ronaldo if you ask me. You have to look deeper than 41 goals. You have to look at the quality of the player. Ronaldo sure, may have scored in the Champions League final. But look at what Suazo did early on in the season. He scored a great header vs Arsenal in the Emirates Cup in the preseason. Talk about more proven :rolleyes:
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preseason :rolleyes:
Ronaldo has proven day in and day out that he is world class and among the top 5 in the world
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Preseason? Don't be stupid. Day in and day out? Where was Ronaldo vs Barcelona? Does he know how to score a penalty by the way? You can't stop your forward motion. He doesn't even know the rules of the games, let alone how to score a penalty. Suazo has buried many a penalty.
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Preseason? Don't be stupid. Day in and day out? Where was Ronaldo vs Barcelona? Does he know how to score a penalty by the way? You can't stop your forward motion. He doesn't even know the rules of the games, let alone how to score a penalty. Suazo has buried many a penalty.
His stats prove that it is day in and day out. Adn he actually did alot against Barca, as well as the fact that he drew a ridiculous amount of coverage, leaving other teammates open. And dont rag on the penalty...he almost always buries them. I dont believe what Im hearing from you, ELITE
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He can bury the penalties against Wigan and West Ham, but when the occasion arises? When shit hits the fan? He buckles down and the pressure gets the better of him. He's not a big game player. He can't handle the heat. His stats really aren't even that great. Ruud van Nistelrooy scored 42 in one season with United. Was he the best in the world? Never. You're biased. I can't believe your fucking ignorance.
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is Van Nistelroy a winger? No. Ronaldo controls the game far more than Ruud did.
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It doesn't matter what position he is. Ruud controls the world. Don't talk about shit you don't fucking no about, you ignorant bastard. Don't be silly. Ronaldo didn't compare to what Ruud did in the United shirt. Ruud was a lethal weapon. Ronaldo is just a mere winger.
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a mere winger? What are you insinuating? That strikers are better players than wingers? If so, then you're really not worthy of my time.
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You think I'm wasting your time? I think you're a fucking idiot for letting me wind you up in about 3 threads about complete bullshit. Go check yourself. You are taking this shit more seriously than life. :hello:
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Ah...I see...so this all was a joke :cheers:
and trust me, I care about life far more than I do about this :thumbsup:
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he's joking
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You gave me a good laugh though.
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precisely...I thought he was serious and had been indoctrinated in Hinduras before you pointed that out. Then I waited to see whether he would give it up or not
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Hinduras?
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crap I meant Honduras :bang:
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Haha class.. a page full of leading-on shit. ;)
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wow I thought it was more than a page...maybe because it took up three separate strings :cheers:
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he's joking
More people should read the wise words of the mighty Conner. :biggrin:
As far as the injury comments go, you are somewhat right Tom. It is a lot about luck but there's also more to it. Take a look at Ronaldo's body... yes, it's sexy and whatnot, but most importantly he's an absolute beast. He's got a ripped core and strong legs. If your muscles are strong, you are less prone to injury. Messi does not have that body strength and muscle mass, therefore making him more susceptible to injuries. I'm not discarding your comments about luck, but there's also more to it than just luck when it comes to staying fit.
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look at Ronaldo's body... it's sexy
Damn Adi, didn't know you where like that.
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look at Ronaldo's body... it's sexy
Damn Adi, didn't know you where like that.
its because Buck left him
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There has been so much hype about Ronaldo, and rightly so for his performances in the Premiership over the past two/three years but do we have another Thierry Henry on our hands? He loves playing against teams like Wigan, Newcastle and the like but for me he goes missing when the big games come around. In both Barcelona legs, Messi proved himself to have the edge over the Portugese winger. Who can remember the Champions league Semi last season? He got found out by AC Milan. A team discovered a way to stop him so he started sulking, just the same way Henry did for France. International coaches were tactically sound enough to realise by defending deep against the frenchman, he turned in subdued, average performances without having the space in behind to exploit. Henry would then cry at news conferences complaining about this.
Until Ronaldo can take a big game by the scruff of the neck, the way greats like Zidane,Maradona,Cruyff and Beckenbauer did in the past then a question mark looms over him in my personal opinion. I'd love to see him do it, I do not in anyway have a hatred for the player, I just dislike the belief that he is already a player with which people are including in the same sentences as the greats.
So true! I feel the same way,Ronaldo is OVERRATED!
He is not worth the hype.
Ronaldo - Dribble Dribble Dribble Stepover Stepover Dribble Dribble Dribble Lose the ball.
That is what usually happens,What I'm trying to say is that Ronaldo goes for style,And he has NOT matured at all,I mean you dont see Messi winking after scoring! I mean he may be the best,But you shouldnt be arrogant and think that way! I mean look at Kaka,He's not arrogant at all. Simply put,Ronaldo is Overrated. I dont care what anyone else has to say,But I think Ronaldo is a diver and is overrated and doesnt deserve to be called "the best in the world".
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How can you say he has not matured. That's the main reason he is so good today. He doesn't over do his dribbling as he used to when he came to Man U. SAF realizes that and always brings it up to the media. Ronaldo is not what you described him to be in your post. He still dribbles but he doesn't lose the ball at the end of his dribbling. Instead of doing that, he now gives a great outlet pass or puts the ball in the goal.
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Exactly. He also drags defenders towards him to open up space to other players.
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He has 42 goals in one season as a winger. I'm convinced, honestly. It's hard to say, though, I still think Suazo is a better all around player.
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Yeah, and the Euros coming up too. He lost in 04 when Portugal were clear favourites, so I think he's mighty determined and has great confidence with two trophies and all those individual honours. :biggrin:
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Well I still feel that Ronaldo is simply overrated,Everyone has a golden season,His one is over.
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He has 42 goals in one season as a winger. I'm convinced, honestly. It's hard to say, though, I still think Suazo is a better all around player.
WHAT?!? This is ridiculous. I started this post, merely saying he cannot be compared to the greats yet and still went missing in big games. Suazo a better player? A better all round player? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...hysterical
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he's joking
don't play his games
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i just think referees always give him decisions he shouldnt get. If theres a 50 50 decision i swear they always give it to him, just bcos of his reputation!
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Ronaldo is usually given the benefit of doubt because of his reputation,I've seen him dive many a times.
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He has 42 goals in one season as a winger. I'm convinced, honestly. It's hard to say, though, I still think Suazo is a better all around player.
WHAT?!? This is ridiculous. I started this post, merely saying he cannot be compared to the greats yet and still went missing in big games. Suazo a better player? A better all round player? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...hysterical
Wait...are you mentally stable? How can you not realize that Suazo is already a great player? To come all the way from Honduras and make it at Inter Milan, helping them secure another title, and two years ago leading the Serie A in goal scoring while on CAGLIRARI! See if Ronaldo could score 40 goals while on Birmingham. It's plain and simple: Suazo has a better all around game.
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He has 42 goals in one season as a winger. I'm convinced, honestly. It's hard to say, though, I still think Suazo is a better all around player.
WHAT?!? This is ridiculous. I started this post, merely saying he cannot be compared to the greats yet and still went missing in big games. Suazo a better player? A better all round player? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...hysterical
Wait...are you mentally stable? How can you not realize that Suazo is already a great player? To come all the way from Honduras and make it at Inter Milan, helping them secure another title, and two years ago leading the Serie A in goal scoring while on CAGLIRARI! See if Ronaldo could score 40 goals while on Birmingham. It's plain and simple: Suazo has a better all around game.
You are completely insane.....someone help me out here please....Adi? Borg? Buckwheat?
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He's joking, thanks for thinking of me though. :3some:
Jokes.
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:lol:
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yeah read the other three threads where we had an argument about this that degenerated into the joke that it really was :biggrin:
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I don't like him, imo ronaldinho was 100x better 2 yeras ago when he won CL with barca in 2006
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He has 42 goals in one season as a winger. I'm convinced, honestly. It's hard to say, though, I still think Suazo is a better all around player.
WHAT?!? This is ridiculous. I started this post, merely saying he cannot be compared to the greats yet and still went missing in big games. Suazo a better player? A better all round player? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...hysterical
Wait...are you mentally stable? How can you not realize that Suazo is already a great player? To come all the way from Honduras and make it at Inter Milan, helping them secure another title, and two years ago leading the Serie A in goal scoring while on CAGLIRARI! See if Ronaldo could score 40 goals while on Birmingham. It's plain and simple: Suazo has a better all around game.
You are completely insane.....someone help me out here please....Adi? Borg? Buckwheat?
Oh, I'm sorry. Was my argument too strong? You need help from others now? I'll try not to destroy you next time we argue.
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ELITE you are my hero lol :lol:
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Elite, your argument was non existent. I merely asked other people to get in on the argument so we could all lobby together to let you know you are a complete egg who knows nothing about football. Also, maybe if we got a petition together we could get you kicked off because you are adding nothing to this forum. That OK with you Elite? Alright sonny Jim, never comment again on anything to do with football, bye.
Oh and totalfootball, hows that 1-2-1-3-3 formation coming along, still shit?
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Elite, your argument was non existent. I merely asked other people to get in on the argument so we could all lobby together to let you know you are a complete egg who knows nothing about football. Also, maybe if we got a petition together we could get you kicked off because you are adding nothing to this forum. That OK with you Elite? Alright sonny Jim, never comment again on anything to do with football, bye.
Oh and totalfootball, hows that 1-2-1-3-3 formation coming along, still shit?
first of all, the guy was joking, and second, if you're going to break my formation down like that then it would be 1-2-2-3-2-1 :biggrin:
and I stand by its effectiveness in outscoring the other team...although I understand your point that it is a bit weak defensively. maybe scratch the stop-sweep idea, but keep the 4-3-3 formation :dontknow: It would probably do the trick :thumbsup:
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Elite, your argument was non existent. I merely asked other people to get in on the argument so we could all lobby together to let you know you are a complete egg who knows nothing about football. Also, maybe if we got a petition together we could get you kicked off because you are adding nothing to this forum. That OK with you Elite? Alright sonny Jim, never comment again on anything to do with football, bye.
Oh and totalfootball, hows that 1-2-1-3-3 formation coming along, still shit?
Carlo(s) Costly is better than Ronaldo.
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Carlo(s) [lol] Costly is the greatest player to walk the earth :biggrin:
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ronaldo is underated, becuz he is the best in the world by far :bowdown: and still young
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Carlo(s) [lol] Costly is the greatest player to walk the earth :biggrin:
After Wayne Rooney ofcourse.
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Amazing post NutSack
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He has 42 goals in one season as a winger. I'm convinced, honestly. It's hard to say, though, I still think Suazo is a better all around player.
WHAT?!? This is ridiculous. I started this post, merely saying he cannot be compared to the greats yet and still went missing in big games. Suazo a better player? A better all round player? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...hysterical
Wait...are you mentally stable? How can you not realize that Suazo is already a great player? To come all the way from Honduras and make it at Inter Milan, helping them secure another title, and two years ago leading the Serie A in goal scoring while on CAGLIRARI! See if Ronaldo could score 40 goals while on Birmingham. It's plain and simple: Suazo has a better all around game.
post of the year. any fag can score against wigan and the likes. put c.ronaldo against the likes of sevilla, lazio and he will be shown what true football him. they'll make him go crying back to his dead mother
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He was being sarcastic. :biggrin:
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He has 42 goals in one season as a winger. I'm convinced, honestly. It's hard to say, though, I still think Suazo is a better all around player.
WHAT?!? This is ridiculous. I started this post, merely saying he cannot be compared to the greats yet and still went missing in big games. Suazo a better player? A better all round player? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...hysterical
Wait...are you mentally stable? How can you not realize that Suazo is already a great player? To come all the way from Honduras and make it at Inter Milan, helping them secure another title, and two years ago leading the Serie A in goal scoring while on CAGLIRARI! See if Ronaldo could score 40 goals while on Birmingham. It's plain and simple: Suazo has a better all around game.
post of the year. any fag can score against wigan and the likes. put c.ronaldo against the likes of sevilla, lazio and he will be shown what true football him. they'll make him go crying back to his dead mother
Haha. Put C. Ronaldo against Roma...oh wait, that happened! Pipe down and catch some sarcasm every once in a while.
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He has 42 goals in one season as a winger. I'm convinced, honestly. It's hard to say, though, I still think Suazo is a better all around player.
WHAT?!? This is ridiculous. I started this post, merely saying he cannot be compared to the greats yet and still went missing in big games. Suazo a better player? A better all round player? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...hysterical
Wait...are you mentally stable? How can you not realize that Suazo is already a great player? To come all the way from Honduras and make it at Inter Milan, helping them secure another title, and two years ago leading the Serie A in goal scoring while on CAGLIRARI! See if Ronaldo could score 40 goals while on Birmingham. It's plain and simple: Suazo has a better all around game.
post of the year. any fag can score against wigan and the likes. put c.ronaldo against the likes of sevilla, lazio and he will be shown what true football him. they'll make him go crying back to his dead mother
Haha. Put C. Ronaldo against Roma...oh wait, that happened! Pipe down and catch some sarcasm every once in a while.
ELITE strikes again
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my ass i dont give a shit.
he still said what matteres
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messi is the best :biggrin:
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He has 42 goals in one season as a winger. I'm convinced, honestly. It's hard to say, though, I still think Suazo is a better all around player.
WHAT?!? This is ridiculous. I started this post, merely saying he cannot be compared to the greats yet and still went missing in big games. Suazo a better player? A better all round player? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...hysterical
Wait...are you mentally stable? How can you not realize that Suazo is already a great player? To come all the way from Honduras and make it at Inter Milan, helping them secure another title, and two years ago leading the Serie A in goal scoring while on CAGLIRARI! See if Ronaldo could score 40 goals while on Birmingham. It's plain and simple: Suazo has a better all around game.
post of the year. any fag can score against wigan and the likes. put c.ronaldo against the likes of sevilla, lazio and he will be shown what true football him. they'll make him go crying back to his dead mother
Haha. Put C. Ronaldo against Roma...oh wait, that happened! Pipe down and catch some sarcasm every once in a while.
that was a fluke
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I'm fan of C.Ronaldo. I know he is crying baby, but he is good player! Better than many others :)