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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Freestyle Chat => Topic started by: Adi on Jan 02, 2008, 08:48: AM

Title: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Adi on Jan 02, 2008, 08:48: AM
Hello freestylers,

I need your help. I'm trying to make Beyond Football (www.beyondfootball.com) the YouTube of freestyle football. How can I do this. I can't change the script or design because I already spent a lot of money on it but I could use some tips on making the site bigger.

I would like to change the video player so it's in flash and similar to the one on YouTube. Also, I'm looking into making it clearer on how to submit videos.

Is there anything that's keeping you all from the site. I don't see why more people don't submit their videos there. Thanks for any feedback.
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: manutd. on Jan 02, 2008, 08:56: AM
Honestly, if you want to make it better and changing the script is an option, you should just change the script, or design. I could personally help you with the design. Make "Beyond Football" in big text across the header. Add a big upload button right underneath it too. Also, a multiploader (reference: imageshack.us, there's an option for uploading more than one video at a time) would be nice, and like you said, making the video flash. Making the video crystal clear would help too. Maybe make something that automatically converts the video to the corresponding resolution of the video player you're going to use.

Good luck!  :thumbsup:

EDIT: Also, if you really look it YouTube, it has a big name, the first thing people think about when they hear online videos is YouTube, maybe giving Beyond Football an easier, shortened name (Beyond Football is great, just maybe too long), and on YouTube.com they really emphasize their videos, they really put them out there (e.g. videos being watched now), maybe you should put a "Video of the Week" thing on the front page to show off some really good videos, and you or Oli can judge the best videos uploaded. Also, go around different forums, download their videos then upload them to Beyond Football, make it the Freestyle YouTube, put every single freestyle video out there on it. It will become the main portal of freestyle!
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: oLi on Jan 02, 2008, 09:07: AM
Yeah Borg is right! Also as you see in my latest freestyle videos I make commercial for beyondfootball as I actually want it to grow in any means possible, I'll upload my videos to beyondfootball.com aswell when I get the chance, I could also add some other videos..

One thing you need to change tho is.. The site desing. Make it more "youtube alike"
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Jono on Jan 02, 2008, 06:14: PM
The Layout is good, but maybe you shouldnt layout the videos how they are, like you scroll down and it has a list of videos and looks sorta boring, like you gotta make it more interesting, it sounds stupid but thats what i tihnk. Like you scroll down and you see wierd freestyle pictures and advertisements.

Have a search option included in finding videos and dont count on people uploading videos, you upload all recent freestyle videos, get rid of where it says who uploaded it, just upload all videos people release, and dont show them on the homepage. Have people click on videos to see them, maybe categorize videos of peoples names, so people can keep track of the progression of a certian freestyler. And it would be easier to just choose palle and see all his videos instead of having to search constantly for the video you want to see of his. Yeah and having a flash thing so you can view the video on the site would be great for this.

Another good idea is to include the latest information on football and football goss, like championships, world cup (when it was on) etc, dont just focus on freestyle on the site, focus on football and more people will come to the site looking for information about how their team stands

Thats just afew ideas, hope they help, in making BF a bigger site

Also i think Beyond Football is a perfect name, no need to make it smaller
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: manutd. on Jan 03, 2008, 12:41: AM
Have people click on videos to see them, maybe categorize videos of peoples names, so people can keep track of the progression of a certian freestyler. And it would be easier to just choose palle and see all his videos instead of having to search constantly for the video you want to see of his.

That's a great one.  ;)
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Tito on Jan 03, 2008, 12:43: AM
ratings are instrumental  :pimp:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Jonathonhehu on Jan 03, 2008, 03:21: AM
change video format
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: manutd. on Jan 03, 2008, 04:24: AM
How would that make it better?
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Adi on Jan 03, 2008, 07:11: AM
ratings are instrumental  :pimp:

There is already a rating system as well as a comment system. There is also a list of the top rated videos and most voted for videos.

The site really is nice and has good features... people are just not using them. :'(

change video format

When we change the videos to flash it's going to be better.

The Layout is good, but maybe you shouldnt layout the videos how they are, like you scroll down and it has a list of videos and looks sorta boring, like you gotta make it more interesting, it sounds stupid but thats what i tihnk. Like you scroll down and you see wierd freestyle pictures and advertisements.

How do you suggest we change this? I added the latest videos to the front page so people can easily see what's new. Maybe it'd be better if I took it off because it would make people navigate the site more to find out what's new. How can I make things more interesting? I'd love to hear what can be done. Maybe move the text on the top to the bottom and add something up top? But what...

Have a search option included in finding videos and dont count on people uploading videos, you upload all recent freestyle videos, get rid of where it says who uploaded it, just upload all videos people release, and dont show them on the homepage. Have people click on videos to see them, maybe categorize videos of peoples names, so people can keep track of the progression of a certian freestyler. And it would be easier to just choose palle and see all his videos instead of having to search constantly for the video you want to see of his. Yeah and having a flash thing so you can view the video on the site would be great for this.

There is a search at the top right of the site. It's not as good as YouTube but it will help you find some videos.

I could upload recent videos but I don't want to mess with copyright laws and such. As stated on the site, people are responsible for what they upload and if they upload their own videos, then everything is cool. I suppose I could go out and ask the freestylers if I can upload their videos as I've been doing with a few of them.

I should look into making a little chart that shows the top contributers. Maybe a top 10 list for people who submit the most videos and help the site.

Another good idea is to include the latest information on football and football goss, like championships, world cup (when it was on) etc, dont just focus on freestyle on the site, focus on football and more people will come to the site looking for information about how their team stands

Yeah, that could work. On the right side, I can post news and stuff. I just need to get some articles on there. Would anyone be interested in contributing to the website?
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: manutd. on Jan 03, 2008, 11:51: AM
You should put all the top league tables on the right hand side..

And then a little box to the left of each one saying who has the most goals.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Jono on Jan 03, 2008, 11:59: AM
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How do you suggest we change this? I added the latest videos to the front page so people can easily see what's new. Maybe it'd be better if I took it off because it would make people navigate the site more to find out what's new. How can I make things more interesting? I'd love to hear what can be done. Maybe move the text on the top to the bottom and add something up top? But what...

Well i think you should remove the videos and have summeries of articles on the site, or like just the intro of the article, and have this thing, "click here to read full story or wateva, and have heaps of them on the home page. I can understand you want to show new videos added to the site, but yo ucan do that eaesily if you wrote it, like "check our new updated freestyle videos" etc and little things like that will make people explore the site. Get ppl to write articles about certian topics and make sure they are interesting, i personally would be h appy to write articles for you, as it would also be good for my english writing skills.

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There is a search at the top right of the site. It's not as good as YouTube but it will help you find some videos.

I could upload recent videos but I don't want to mess with copyright laws and such. As stated on the site, people are responsible for what they upload and if they upload their own videos, then everything is cool. I suppose I could go out and ask the freestylers if I can upload their videos as I've been doing with a few of them.

I should look into making a little chart that shows the top contributers. Maybe a top 10 list for people who submit the most videos and help the site.

I still think you should add videos yourself, and i can understand copyright issues, so you should ask freestylers if you can upload there video get them to write something or something if neccesary then upload all the videos of them. And get rid of the thing where it says who uploaded the video, it would be stupid if all the videos had submitted by Adi, you kno what i mean.

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Yeah, that could work. On the right side, I can post news and stuff. I just need to get some articles on there. Would anyone be interested in contributing to the website?

Like i said before, id be interested
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: nicO on Jan 03, 2008, 12:03: PM
I can't change the script or design because I already spent a lot of money on it
You can't change it although I think it's the (only and) best solution to make BF more attractif..
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: manutd. on Jan 03, 2008, 12:06: PM
Adi check this out;

http://uzgallery.000webhost.info/

It would be awesome if you clicked "Open Menu" (like in the link) and it popped down and had a menu like Videos, Tutorials, Articles, Biographies and all that. And let's say if you click Videos there will be a new menu on the Video's Page and it will have all the top freestylers. Just check out that site and it may give you some ideas. It's really cool how everything on there is so fast to load.
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Jonathonhehu on Jan 03, 2008, 01:00: PM
How would that make it better?

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Tito on Jan 03, 2008, 02:02: PM
ratings are instrumental  :pimp:

There is already a rating system as well as a comment system. There is also a list of the top rated videos and most voted for videos.

The site really is nice and has good features... people are just not using them. :'(
Ads Adi spread the word i'll try to spred it around Australia start from my school and i'll them to past the word that this is the best freestyle site and everyone does it from what ever country there are in

agreed?
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Jono on Jan 03, 2008, 07:32: PM
ratings are instrumental  :pimp:

There is already a rating system as well as a comment system. There is also a list of the top rated videos and most voted for videos.

The site really is nice and has good features... people are just not using them. :'(
Ads Adi spread the word i'll try to spred it around Australia start from my school and i'll them to past the word that this is the best freestyle site and everyone does it from what ever country there are in

agreed?

i think advertising in any kind of wa would be agreed of
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Tito on Jan 03, 2008, 08:23: PM
then its a deal
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Adi on Jan 05, 2008, 08:41: AM
OK... let's start writing articles then. Who is all in? These articles can be about soccer, freestyle or anything related to our interests.

I will upload the articles as soon as you send them to me.

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: manutd. on Jan 05, 2008, 08:47: AM
Articles about soccer;
can they be about a team? League? Player?
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: oLi on Jan 05, 2008, 09:41: AM
OK... let's start writing articles then. Who is all in? These articles can be about soccer, freestyle or anything related to our interests.

I will upload the articles as soon as you send them to me.

 :popcorn:
Back at old soccergrip you asked for tips about improving BF and I said stuff about freestyle news and such ;) I believe I deserve some credit here Adi *cough cough*  :3some:

and yeah I could write some, no problemo! But first, answer me pm -.-
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Adi on Jan 05, 2008, 10:15: AM
I've always wanted to do it but we never went through with it. People would show interest, but then they wouldn't actually write anything. I hope we can make it happen this time.
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: manutd. on Jan 05, 2008, 10:16: AM
Got the first paragraph done. ;)
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: BigMac on Jan 05, 2008, 10:18: PM
articles is cool, get oLi to do some, he is the man for the job.
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: lilmaniac on Jan 06, 2008, 04:32: AM
so then would beyondfootball now resemble an editors page of a newspaper?
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: oLi on Jan 06, 2008, 05:51: AM
so then would beyondfootball now resemble an editors page of a newspaper?
I don't fully understand your post
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: manutd. on Jan 06, 2008, 05:52: AM
He said will Beyond Football end up looking like an editor's page of a newspaper?
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Adi on Jan 06, 2008, 05:59: AM
No it will still be the same with the same features. The front page will just have a list of the latest articles.

I would like to get more freestylers into this. I want to make Beyond Football the source for the latest freestyle news. We need some rumors and the latest on what's happening. Who can contribute besides oLi?
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: manutd. on Jan 06, 2008, 06:27: AM
Would be good if everyone uploaded this video to their youtube account.


If we had a lot of videos like this whenever someone searched for a trick or freestyler atleast 3 videos of this would pop up and they're bound to click one video and view it.

Oli I used your tags since they're amazing.  :bowdown:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: oLi on Jan 06, 2008, 06:45: AM
Aight Borg :) I'ma do that as soon as I get some time
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Jono on Jan 06, 2008, 10:00: AM
No it will still be the same with the same features. The front page will just have a list of the latest articles.

I would like to get more freestylers into this. I want to make Beyond Football the source for the latest freestyle news. We need some rumors and the latest on what's happening. Who can contribute besides oLi?

Yeah adi i done mine  :thumbsup:

And good job oli, you the man  :bowdown:  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Adi on Jan 06, 2008, 06:53: PM
Yeah adi i done mine  :thumbsup:

Very nice... just PM it to me mate. :)
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Blazed on Jan 09, 2008, 12:51: AM
add ratings(already have), number of views(this is important i think), comments(already have this) and to comment must register,search button, tags for easier searching...(well do what youtube does! lol...)
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Sebastian on Jun 24, 2008, 02:23: AM
You should make this important-topic!
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Andy on Jun 24, 2008, 04:58: AM
How about a newsletter with a video of the week. Also things like tips for a certain tricks every week. Make some completions etc. Would be great to have  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Bov on Jun 24, 2008, 06:43: AM
good idea andy :thumbsup:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Adi on Jun 24, 2008, 07:33: AM
Interesting suggestion. I should start sending out some newsletters. I gotta get some content first though.
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Andy on Jun 24, 2008, 08:36: AM
i had a good idea yay  :lol:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Tito on Jun 24, 2008, 11:36: AM
You should make this important-topic!
why isn't it
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: manutd. on Jun 24, 2008, 12:19: PM
Interesting suggestion. I should start sending out some newsletters. I gotta get some content first though.
I call designing it!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Shah FS on Jun 24, 2008, 04:12: PM
Also things like tips for a certain tricks every week.
Ya make it like soccer show time RTV. have a new trick every week. :banana:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Tito on Jun 24, 2008, 05:41: PM
Interesting suggestion. I should start sending out some newsletters. I gotta get some content first though.
I call designing it!  :thumbsup:
I call criticizing it!
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Andy on Jun 24, 2008, 11:37: PM
Interesting suggestion. I should start sending out some newsletters. I gotta get some content first though.
I call designing it!  :thumbsup:
I call criticizing it!
I call the copyright  :biggrin:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Andy on Jul 08, 2008, 02:58: AM
Interesting suggestion. I should start sending out some newsletters. I gotta get some content first though.
I call designing it!  :thumbsup:
I call criticizing it!
I call the copyright  :biggrin:



Hows this coming or have you guys given up again?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: How to make Beyond Football better. Need your feedback!
Post by: Acquaviva on Jul 08, 2008, 03:25: AM
what ever happened to the suppossed online TV show BF was going to have?
if that idea ever comes back, i want to be a part of it
also, to make this site better, hmmm, theres not much you can do, maybe you could have like a Feature of the week, and every week add a different freestyler who is under the radar and help him get some more publicity, you could also start adding stuff outside of football and FS, like tv shows and movies and comedy crap and stuff like that, but for just a footballer and FS site, i dont know, theres not really much you can do