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Title: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 05:11: AM
Why freestylers don't like to be criticized that much, that they're banning me, it seems, otherwise, they will have suicide. Why you don't allow me to say what I think?
Learn2freestyle forum will die soon, because I'm banned there
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: JavierP on May 31, 2012, 05:55: AM
the people only want to heard the good things, no bad things, for this reasong the critics affect. I understand you, i only say to the people that their want to heard, no the bad things, and this is bad...

Sorry for my bad english
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Knnthh on May 31, 2012, 06:15: AM
I miss you on L2F, its already boring now  :bawling:
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 06:15: AM
Good that at least anyone supports me :)
What others think about it?

To Knnthh, I'm there, Macca is too stupid to understand that I have dynamic IP address :D :D :D
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Knnthh on May 31, 2012, 06:23: AM
Hahaha sick :D i share your opinion that if freestyler cant take hard critism, they arent ment to be freestylers. And it annoys me that people still have the same mindset about freestyle like a few years ago, while fs changed so much
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 06:32: AM
Hahaha sick :D i share your opinion that if freestyler cant take hard critism, they arent ment to be freestylers. And it annoys me that people still have the same mindset about freestyle like a few years ago, while fs changed so much

Thanks. Really, every forum want to build up friendly community, getting the efficiency of that community to the lowest when it comes to freestyler learning :(
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Knnthh on May 31, 2012, 06:34: AM
Thanks. Really, every forum want to build up friendly community, getting the efficiency of that community to the lowest when it comes to freestyler learning :(

Thats true, i would rather want to be in the russian community where everybody says im shit BUT gives me useful critism and makes me a better fser by giving tips, then on a forum where everybody says im doing good when i'm clearly not

I wish i was russian  :(
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: LWF on May 31, 2012, 06:39: AM
leha is king  :bowdown:
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Knnthh on May 31, 2012, 06:45: AM
Btw Leha, can i send you a vid of me so you can say some critism on it? Would be useful :)
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 06:52: AM
Btw Leha, can i send you a vid of me so you can say some critism on it? Would be useful :)

Of course, give me sendspace link here :)

Waiting for more feedbacks about this concern!
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Knnthh on May 31, 2012, 06:54: AM
Of course, give me sendspace link here :)

Waiting for more feedbacks about this concern!

I dont have it on sendspace, can i give you the youtube link? Knnthh | BF Beginner Competition | Qualification (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVkTdfH0yG4&feature=plcp#ws)
I can do longer combos than the one in this vid though, i got this after 5 minutes. I can do combos from about 30 tricks :)
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 06:55: AM
I dont have it on sendspace, can i give you the youtube link? Knnthh | BF Beginner Competition | Qualification (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVkTdfH0yG4&feature=plcp#ws)
I can do longer combos than the one in this vid though, i got this after 5 minutes. I can do combos from about 30 tricks :)

Before I watched this - what do you want to know from me? About long combos? Any other styles? Or what?
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Knnthh on May 31, 2012, 06:58: AM
Before I watched this - what do you want to know from me? About long combos? Any other styles? Or what?

Yeah about long combos would be useful, also about nt and how to get better ahmatw
But any tips in general about what i have to improve would be nice :)
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 07:03: AM
One more question, are you righty? :D

Waiting for your asnwer to reply it with best advice :)
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Adi on May 31, 2012, 07:19: AM
I think it's a difference in culture... some cultures are used to ripping each other, while others are sensitive to every word that's said.  It all depends... some like the abuse because they want to earn your respect.  Once you get the respect, then it's a great feeling to be part of the community.

On the other hand, some people want respect from the start.  It just depends.
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 07:25: AM
I think it's a difference in culture... some cultures are used to ripping each other, while others are sensitive to every word that's said.  It all depends... some like the abuse because they want to earn your respect.  Once you get the respect, then it's a great feeling to be part of the community.

On the other hand, some people want respect from the start.  It just depends.

To be honest, that was all about Macca, I did get only several negative comments from l2f forum members, and only 11years old guy were complaining indefinitely. It was really strange for me that you still hadn't banned me, and this is what should be on every forum - freedom. Since I don't touch anything like racizm, "fuck all you", and talk only about freestyle, I'm free to post it in the way I want and as I think this would be the best for me and others. He's about building friendship community, which is useless idea - he suspended me after realized that even Zhura who greeted him in Prague (or somewhere else) thinks that he's annoying :D It was named like "offtopic", when it had gone there already 2 pages ago. I think, he wants too much respect for this "effort" as he says. But he did friendship forum, he didn't grow up any new generation with his tutorials. Then why to call forum "learn2freestyle", when it's "learn2asslick" :/
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Knnthh on May 31, 2012, 07:36: AM
One more question, are you righty? :D

Waiting for your asnwer to reply it with best advice :)

Yes, but i had a serious injury on my right so im doing quick tricks like latw etc with left, magellan etc with right :)
Btw, I cant do amatw anymore with right so i'll do atatws on them :)
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 07:37: AM
Yes, but i had a serious injury on my right so im doing quick tricks like latw etc with left, magellan etc with right :)
Btw, I cant do amatw anymore with right so i'll do atatws on them :)
Ok, then I'm writing in general. Give me some time :)
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Adi on May 31, 2012, 07:56: AM
Then why to call forum "learn2freestyle", when it's "learn2asslick" :/

 :lol_hitting:

Yeah, you can argue and do whatever you want here, just don't break the core rules like racism.

Macca is doing what he thinks is right.  It's not gonna please everyone so it's all gravy.  Welcome back. :grin:
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: BigMac on May 31, 2012, 08:05: AM
You were banned for going off topic countless times and attention seeking (oh look you've made a thread here about yourself), it's really that simple.

Enjoy BF.

Knnthh if you really think that my forum is boring without Leha then I feel sorry for you. 
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 08:19: AM
You're really similar to russian with your style of improvement :)
You have tatw-matw nt by your weak foot. It's really good for your level, so, you should increase this thing training combos like 2atw(strong)-htw-tatw-matw nt-htw, atw(strong)-hatw-atw-tatw-matw nt-htw. You feel the touch for this tatw better after that, this helps you to be able to use your weak foot better, reviewing your concern about troubles with strong, even better than strong foot (like Lamps does, for example).
You have stylish and overall good long combos, but there's too little amount of htws. So, to be most useful for you, I give you several "samples" for your long combos (I will explain it lowet why you need this):
hatw(strong)-atw-hatw-2atw-htw-hatw-2atw-2htw-2atw-hatw-2atw-2htw-2atw-hatw-2atw-2htw;
atw(weak)-hatw-2atw-hatw-2atw-2htw-3hatw-2atw-4htw-2atw-htw-3atw-2htw;
Why you need this: when you do train long cobmos, you have soe thoughts for first 10-20 tricks, when you go over this you must think up something on the moment - it's diffucult at your level. So, you should have in mind these 2 combos, to be able, for example, to continue 1st by the 2nd one, transferring it with some random tricks. E.g., (lets take 1st combo) you end this with 2htw, then have some time of panic adding, maybe, 2-4 more htws, when you remember the 2nd "sample", and after the last htw you do atw(weak)-hatw etc. You won't ve busy with thinking up something new, you will have all your concentration on doing combo - and it's more than 50% of success.
And yea, train (2atw-2htw)xN (you know, it's circle, learn it for both feet) and (atw-htw)xN (the same, but you always change foot). It improves your stamina.
One more exercise for stamina is htw(weak)-amatw/atatw(ofc, if you can't do this by strong, do atatw, but amatw is better)-2htw-amatw/atatw-2htw-amatw/atatw etc. The same for another foot: htw(strong)-amatw/atatw(ofc, if you can't do this by strong, do atatw, but amatw is better)-2htw-amatw/atatw-2htw-amatw/atatw.
Also, learn adding in-tricks in your long combos. Don't rush in it, just change some atws in these samples with atws in (better to change atw out-hatw to atw in-hatw, because there's some specific in this atw before hatw - you will fail it more than other things, but when you master it, you will almost never fail any other basic transitions). Add htw-matw in your combos and htw-hmatw.

About your weak foot: you have it good already, considering your whole level, but again, you don't train in-side tricks. You have great outsides, but it's only for long combos you need. Look at Lamps, he uses his weak with insides and he does it great. You're better than him in using weak in outside, so, just take your time not to turn in all into inside, but just to learn hardcore with inside tricks. I mean, learn latw in weak foot, then lmatw, it won't be the problem to achieve 2latws then and latw-hmatw (yea, it's easier with weak foot, than with strong). Exactly for latw train htw-matw (weak foot) and and 2atw-matw(weak foot). Don't waste your time learning it without jump, it's unnecessary thing. Learn it with jump, which you will get training htw-matw and with youch you will get with 2atw-matw.

About ahmatw: you have great technique of it, seems, you've read my tutorial not once :) You add it in the end of combo, you were pretty confident with that. You're ready to train some in a row. So, again, htw for president. Train htw-ahmatw, 2atw-ahmatw and then 2atw-ahmatw-2htw. Then, htw-ahmatw-2htw-ahmatw-2htw and in one training you have 2 ahmatws.
About ahtatws: you did it with your strong foot and it looked really awful. Here's tutorial for this:
The same as ahmatw - one of the most basic tricks of hardcore freestyle. Don't learn it before you're familiar with basics.
Learn it by weak foot, and only then  on the strong. For this trick you need to train hardly atatw by weak foot, and not for consistency, but for strength for last touch (when you kick up the ball after ahtatw), more straight and more constantly ball goes up, the better ahtatw you have (for putting it in the middle of combos, for example, or in hard without NTs-combos). Here is the same techniquefor strong and weak feet. So, technique of doing ahtatw (consider ahtatw by weak foot):
    1. The last touch (before jump) with right foot make on a diagonal to the left, but a bit less to the left (not as on ahmatw), i.e. at the same range from itself, as for htw, but closer to the left foot and so that while doing 1st revolution by weak the ball was directly opposite to that place where it stood).
    2. Most important, turn of the left. Carry out the foot which has been surely bent in a knee (as on atatw) so that the ball appeared directly under a place which is slightly closer to calf from a knee from a reverse side. At the beginning of 1st revolution by weak foot turn the whole body a little to the right - it's necessary.
    3. When you did 3/4 of whole revolution, then start lifting the right (strong) foot and do the rotation as "small" htw, without lifting the hip high.
    Doing ahtatw don't incline body in general.
    Kick-up after ахтатв ONLY by lifting. Never kick-up by a sock. Maybe it's a bit easier and it kicks up more straight, but then, learning 2 ahtatw you will be always loosing balance.
    The phenomenon "remortar" (the same thing as you do ahmatw as satw) for ahtatw meets very seldom. But if you faced it, train it from hands - so you will get rid from this (don't try to make ahtatw from hands, simply train it).
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Adi on May 31, 2012, 08:19: AM
You were banned for going off topic countless times and attention seeking (oh look you've made a thread here about yourself), it's really that simple.

Enjoy BF.

Knnthh if you really think that my forum is boring without Leha then I feel sorry for you.  


Welcome back Macca. :grin:
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Adi on May 31, 2012, 08:20: AM
You're really similar to russian with your style of improvement :)
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+1 repped.
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 08:27: AM
What I advice you to train by now:
1. Htws in a row
2. Long combos (those 2 samples)
3. Weak foot inside-tricks (latw) and alatw weak foot
4. The same important:
    4.1 Hardcore without nt
    4.2 NTs (by weak foot)
    4.3 NTs (tatw(strong)-amatw-matw)

For 1: you have my tutorial, it's perfect, no need to add anything.
For 2: I gave you all you need :)
For 3: about this - I said to you about latw and how to learn it. For alatw, firstly, learn latw, then, train alatw at home without ball (just imagine you're juggling - do the same motions, then kick-up the ball and do rotations - that's all without the ball, but you do it physically) - it took 1,5 hour for me to train this to achieve alatw within 10 minutes at next training. I did latw-alatw for 3 times at the same training.
For 4:
   4.1 Magellan-alatw, latw-alatw, latw-ahmatw, ahmatw-ahtatw, 2ahmatw, htatw-ahtatw, 2alatw - keep it as basic hardcore you should reach soon.
   4.2 You got tatw-matw nt, I gave you tips about improving it. Also, learn amatw-matw nt.
   4.3 This comes from 4.2. It's like the point when you're going to be crazy russian :D

Edited: also, would be great if I wrote whole process of training and how it should be to get the best results :) I will for sure soon.
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Knnthh on May 31, 2012, 08:31: AM
Thanks so much Leha, this is really really helpful and i'll start working on what you said as soon as im able to do lowers again :D
Very detailed tips, thanks for that :)
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 08:32: AM
Thanks so much Leha, this is really really helpful and i'll start working on what you said as soon as im able to do lowers again :D
Very detailed tips, thanks for that :)

Hope, you will get great results :) Thank you too

There's the 2nd part too. Don't forget to save it!
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 08:34: AM
You were banned for going off topic countless times and attention seeking (oh look you've made a thread here about yourself), it's really that simple.

Enjoy BF.

Knnthh if you really think that my forum is boring without Leha then I feel sorry for you. 

Just want to quote you in 2009 again:
"you are the saddest member on the forum haha. Everyone is laughing at you bro"
You're really the saddest piecekeeper.

About topic - I had to do this. I can't get over this suspend, I want to share this with others.
Waiting for your feedbacks about freedom more!
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: VRK on May 31, 2012, 01:56: PM
criticism is the best form of appriciaton  :098: :098: :098: :098:  :)
what i think is that positive reviews are less motivating and encouraging than negetive comments....
criticism acts as a sort of performance enhancing drug if you take it the right way... also freestylers who are used to receive positive responses for their work get frustrated and irritated even if a single negetive comment is posted and start abusing and stuff....
but it all comes to how one thinks to what is been said to him.... criticism can be taken the right way for further improvement or to start a fight with others...
i don't know what exactly happened with leha at L2F... but if he got banned for just correcting someone to improve his freestyle in a better way.....then it's too sad... :(
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: redsforlife on May 31, 2012, 02:04: PM
Too many young kids on the internet cannot even take constructive or intelligent criticism. There is a difference between " you fucking suck or that video is gay" to "your tricks kind of look ugly, try to make them a bit cleaner" Too many people cannot tell a difference between the two.

Accepting criticism is a part of life. Either ignore it or take whatever positive there is possible from it.

Also, Macca needs to work on this. He really couldn't take someone criticizing his forum. Lets continue to bring back the old BF. It was way cooler. A little chaos is always a good thing.
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 04:37: PM
Finally, I got support! Let's recover bf :)
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Onas on May 31, 2012, 06:14: PM
Leha rules!
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: alexfs on May 31, 2012, 07:05: PM
permanent ban? ..

i thought leha was generating a lot of activity, contributing to the "help and advice" board
and a lot of forum members loved him..

idk who was hurt by his presence on the forum

feel free to use "leha 2012" picture as avatar

stop reading now

i won't leave l2f, but will finish what leha started
western pigs will pay #teamleha



Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: tbc on May 31, 2012, 09:37: PM
leha can give all of us a bad time. but he only does talking about fs.
He talked about brizze and Azun using freestyle. not fuc* word or other stupid arguments.
Personally i like his way of criticism, rahter than beginners and teenagers comments 'good style' ' best in the world' etc.
Its not about agreeing with leha, its about understanding his preferences in fs

L2F boring already now that he is gone
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on May 31, 2012, 10:41: PM
I was helping freestylers way too much than Macca did, and I got banned. He didn't get over competition!
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: Onas on Jun 01, 2012, 12:39: AM
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Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think?
Post by: dunnowhois on Jun 01, 2012, 01:04: AM
Mac, you have good rats there on your forum.
By the way, there's nobody new in audience of your forum. Just the same idiots, who like to defend your authority everywhere. It's hard to recognize, but your forum doesn't bring anything good, beside giving more and more idiots in fs community :(
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: Knnthh on Jun 01, 2012, 01:34: AM
My back injury is getting better and better, i think i'll start lowers again on monday/tuesday. I'll try to make a video of my improvement this month just to show retards that your tips really help  :grin:

Leha, do you have the same knowledge about sits/uppers as on lowers?
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: dunnowhois on Jun 01, 2012, 01:46: AM
My back injury is getting better and better, i think i'll start lowers again on monday/tuesday. I'll try to make a video of my improvement this month just to show retards that your tips really help  :grin:

Leha, do you have the same knowledge about sits/uppers as on lowers?

I'm able to explain what I see for them, but I don't know exactly ways how to train it better. So, I'm about lowers :)
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: Adi on Jun 01, 2012, 03:46: AM
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 :043:

Love it!
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: Christof on Jun 01, 2012, 04:00: AM
I remember some time ago when you left a comment on Budz' vid just saying "awful". This wasn't meant as constructive critcism, was it? I mean that was just disrepectful...
I don't know you well enough to judge you on your general criticising methods, but if they usually look like that i don't wonder why you got banned.

In most cases it's a good idea to show some respect before starting to criticise. If you had replied to Knnth "ok first of all your style sucks..." I don't think he would have appreciated your feedback.

On the other hand, if you had criticised all the people the way you criticised Knnth, you wouldn't have gotten a ban anywhere. Or is that the case?

Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: dunnowhois on Jun 01, 2012, 04:52: AM
I remember some time ago when you left a comment on Budz' vid just saying "awful". This wasn't meant as constructive critcism, was it? I mean that was just disrepectful...
I don't know you well enough to judge you on your general criticising methods, but if they usually look like that i don't wonder why you got banned.

In most cases it's a good idea to show some respect before starting to criticise. If you had replied to Knnth "ok first of all your style sucks..." I don't think he would have appreciated your feedback.

On the other hand, if you had criticised all the people the way you criticised Knnth, you wouldn't have gotten a ban anywhere. Or is that the case?



Read the whole thing on L2n and here.
He would appreaciate it in any way, because he knows it will be useful for him.

The case is Macca likes doing asslicking and cries when someone thinks he doesn't do any useful for others.
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: Christof on Jun 01, 2012, 05:15: AM
Read the whole thing on L2n and here.
He would appreaciate it in any way, because he knows it will be useful for him.

The case is Macca likes doing asslicking and cries when someone thinks he doesn't do any useful for others.

i don't really get what you want to tell me, and who did you mean by "He" ?
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: dunnowhois on Jun 01, 2012, 05:25: AM
i don't really get what you want to tell me, and who did you mean by "He" ?

"He" is Knnthh and case about how he would appreciate my advice.
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: Christof on Jun 01, 2012, 05:35: AM
"He" is Knnthh and case about how he would appreciate my advice.
hmm... and in your opinion, your "awful" comment on Budz' vid should also have been appreciated?
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: dunnowhois on Jun 01, 2012, 05:45: AM
hmm... and in your opinion, your "awful" comment on Budz' vid should also have been appreciated?

Of course not, but it happenned only once.
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: dunnowhois on Jun 01, 2012, 08:17: AM
Macca, don't be completly idiot, let me reply to that shit you have on your forum in topic about me or delete this.
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: Knnthh on Jun 02, 2012, 01:45: AM
Just to let you know, i tried your method of latw inside and landed it 10 minutes after doing those 2 combos. At the start of my practice i could barely do 2 atw in :grin: Also learned maatw weak :)
Title: Re: When I will be free to say what I think? Macca's forum
Post by: dunnowhois on Jun 02, 2012, 03:24: AM
Just to let you know, i tried your method of latw inside and landed it 10 minutes after doing those 2 combos. At the start of my practice i could barely do 2 atw in :grin: Also learned maatw weak :)

Great! Waiting for more news about how it helps :)