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Soccer => Soccer Forum => Topic started by: Adi on Apr 06, 2012, 10:17: AM
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Champions League - Semi Final
Barcelona vs Chelsea
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i'm for barca
but i believe chelsea is a huge threat
I hope barca goes through
a final against bayern OR real would be great.
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nah i don't think chelsea have any chance here. It's true chelsea have improved a lot, especially in defence, but they will crumble under the barca pressure in the same way that Milan crumbled.
Chelsea don't have the quality to win this.
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Chelsea under Mourinho was a real threat to Barca, but without him, I don't think they have a chance. I think Barca will kill them in possession and opportunities. Chelsea is gonna have to get very lucky to get something out of this.
Apparently, Torres has scored more goals against Barca than any other club team. :017:
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barcelona is still the strongest team in europe: no doubt about that
however this season its players seem to be not as motivated (?) idk
i am sure they'll be playing at 100% vs chelsea
tbh i really like di matteo so far.. so if chelsea wins - then most likely he will be their coach for the next season
i think abramovich should give him a chance
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yeh barcelona don't look invincible anymore but i still think they are far better than chelsea.
Di Matteo has changed chelsea completely though. They never would have reached the semifinal with Villas Boas.
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I think they've had some injuries. They're also trying to rest some individuals while trying to work in youngsters. Every now and then you see random youngsters from their reserve team... insane quality despite being in the younger team.
If all their starters are on the pitch, they are still unbeatable 99.5% of the time.
Barcelona is easily the greatest team of our generation/
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Its been tough for Chelsea, schedule wise - tough game where we bossed tottenham, i don't know how the game vs barca goes, they'll want to make sure they don't concede any away goals - put mikel, essien or someone on messi haha
i have faith they have to ability to win, we will see on the night!
sure barca are the 'greatest team' but they are not infallible!
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Problem putting Essien/Mikel on Messi is that they don't play in a position to defend him solely.
It's gonna have to be a team effort. Messi floats around and finds space out wide, top of the box, or in midfield. He gets between the lines very well. Chelsea will have to be on top of things. Essien and Mikel must be aware of Messi and Xavi. Problem is when you step high on Xavi, Messi is free in space in behind. It's a fine line. Chelsea will have to be aware of where they are and must be on the same page when Messi gets into Essiens space. He's gotta be there for the switch. If he's too late, Messi is free.
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as a chelsea fan
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i knew it
i had a huge feeling barca would lose :bawling:
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This new Chelsea is back to its best. Their new manager knows what they can and can't do. Old manager tried to play posession ball but Chelsea doesn't have the midfield for that.
Now they're back to defending, booting the ball, and counter attacking. Drogba will be essential now that they're going to the target man so much and playing off him. Chelsea will finish the season strong, no doubt.
Barca should win at home though. Anything can happen and 1-0 is a hell of a result for Chelsea. I see Barca winning 2:0 or 3:1 at home.
Gonna be a great 2nd leg.
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This new Chelsea is back to its best. Their new manager knows what they can and can't do. Old manager tried to play posession ball but Chelsea doesn't have the midfield for that.
Now they're back to defending, booting the ball, and counter attacking. Drogba will be essential now that they're going to the target man so much and playing off him. Chelsea will finish the season strong, no doubt.
Barca should win at home though. Anything can happen and 1-0 is a hell of a result for Chelsea. I see Barca winning 2:0 or 3:1 at home.
Gonna be a great 2nd leg.
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Don't count on it Adi! you may be surprised, its far from certain, plus no away goals for barca :D
FA cup and UCL for chelsea!!! roberto di matteo <3
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Yeah, it's not gonna be easy and Chelsea have done a lot for themselves after that first leg. Barca still dominated. Can't take that away.
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Alexis Sanches and Pedro barely played this weekend against Madrid, and Fabregas didn't even get on the pitch.
Where's Pique?
Are they resting all of them for Chelsea?
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Pique is not being rested. He is benching because Mascherano is playing very well at centre-back and Pique made a few mistakes in league matches recently.
Cesc??? I'm not sure why he didn't play vs madrid :017:
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Just read an article about Pique being professional about the whole situation. He just wants the team to win he says.
Gonna be interesting. I'd choose Pique over Masherano any day. Barca was winning everything with him as the core of the defense, with or without Puyol. Now that Masherano is in the mix, things haven't been the same. You just can't get the same out of a defensive mid in defense as you can out of a world class center back.
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2nd leg = 2-2
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Yeah, it's not gonna be easy and Chelsea have done a lot for themselves after that first leg. Barca still dominated. Can't take that away.
Pretty much sums it up again.
Barcelona completely dominated the game but couldn't crack the 10 Chelsea defenders.
Chelsea did brilliantly to defend, especially when they went down to 10 men. Drogba has to be given credit. Although he gave up a penalty, he did a fantastic job throughout the game to come back and defend.
Terry deserved that red. I'm glad the refs caught it.
As usual, Barca dominated and deserved to win, but credit has to be give to Chelsea for their hard work and organization.
Now Bayern just has to take care of business tomorrow. Gonna be a good one again. Today's game was pure entertainment from the first minute.
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For me Drogba didn't derserve the penalty against him, just no will to stay on his feet by fabregas, who knew he would get a penalty because uefa like barca. Justly it missed due to Messi, many commentators plauded cech for putting him off
this is one thing in football i never understand. for sure its a mistake by john terry, we're all human and his brain snapped, but a red card! its like beckham vs argentina, such little contact, barely a push, but the theatrics of sanchez mean its a red(also uefa ofcourse) - in real life you wouldn't go down screaming like a sword had been thrust through your heart if i nudged you with my knee. but this is barca! People should stop treating terry as a villain and forgeting the good things he does
Barca didn't derserve to win at all, if they derserved to win they wouldnt have let their pisspoor defence leak two goals. possession isn't the means of scoring, goals is. Chelsea took their chances, barca didn't, so chelsea derserve to win
todays game was one of the best football games that i ever saw. Ramires scored a beautiful chip, which gave my team the hope to overcome not only the suipposed best team in a generation but alsdo the european football government. When Torres popped up out of nowhere and slotted home into empty net i ran around my lounge screaming! almost like a one direction fan but more manly. one of the nicest moments ever. the way everyone on the team gave 100% tot the cause is an inspiration.
man of the match: Petr Cech or Branislav Ivanovic
personally i hope we verse Bayern Munich, as the team, now weakened by the uincessant yellowcard waving of uefa, could have a bit of trouble what with mourinho - but after the way they nailed the barca coffin, anywthing is possible!
finally, i'd like to say, fuck you barcelona! qatar is not catalunya!
Blue is the colour!
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"to overcome the best team in a generation but also the european football government" :043: lollz. Nice post Damiano.
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For me Drogba didn't derserve the penalty against him, just no will to stay on his feet by fabregas, who knew he would get a penalty because uefa like barca. Justly it missed due to Messi, many commentators plauded cech for putting him off
It was a pen. Drogba should never have gone down lazily into the slide tackle. Stupid decision on his part and smartly played by Fab. You would've taken it if Drogba got it on the other end. Nothing wrong with what happened.
this is one thing in football i never understand. for sure its a mistake by john terry, we're all human and his brain snapped, but a red card!
Again, it was a red card. Very deserving of one. Don't defend Terry's stupidity in this situation. There is no room for this crap in football, and Terry got what he deserved. Stuff like this gets overlooked a lot because players are more sneaky about it. He got caught and admitted that it was wrong. If you get caught for elbowing, grabbing someone's balls, poking an eye, or kneeing someone... it's a red. Fact.
Barca didn't derserve to win at all, if they derserved to win they wouldnt have let their pisspoor defence leak two goals. possession isn't the means of scoring, goals is. Chelsea took their chances, barca didn't, so chelsea derserve to win.
Barca is heads and shoulders above any other world-class team. No denying that. They do wish they could win with possession though. They do win with possession 99% of the time. This was somewhat of a fluke and Chelsea did what they had to do to win. Barca is quality but as you said, they didn't create enough chances, but could anyone against a 11 man defense. There were times when Chelsea had all 11 players on the edge of the penalty box. It's much easier for me to argue that Chelsea plays no football and doesn't deserve to be in the final, than to say Barca didn't deserve the win.
todays game was one of the best football games that i ever saw. Ramires scored a beautiful chip
Wonderful goal from the starting run to the finish. Props to Ramires!
man of the match: Petr Cech or Branislav Ivanovic
Unfortunately, Ivanovic is out of the final. Check this clip... he looks like he's about to cry when the reporter reminds him of his yellow. :grin:
Sky Sports Geoff Shreeves crushes Chelsea's Ivanovic on live TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2X_5wMhIQc#ws)
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When i saw this i thought Drogba got enough on the ball to say it is a legit tackle, Fabregas made a meal out of it ofcourse, and uefa awards the penalty! if it went on the other end, there would be no penalty because the referee is under control of uefa to not awards such things
ok its bad what he did, but i get frustrated to see how football has devolved alot to players tactically falling over to gain freekicks, even with chelsea players, so many times they go down easy, sometimes it legit but you know they can get out of the way so many times! if i did this with the force terry used on snachez in real life you wouldn't go down wailing, the same as if i headbutted the chest (like zizou) noone falls over like this - i hope you understand what i mean, i don't think what terry did was right ofc, just that generally football loses some reputation due to the dramatics of footballers
this is key, barca did create enough chances, they just didn't take them! and chelsea did! the ballon d'or player missed a penalty - how many chances do you want
chelsea never had 11 players on the edge of the box, just cech is always back :D
maybe barca should have practiced clinical shooting more, then they might have got a shot in
listen to mourinho today: those who say chelsea don't derserve it, know nothing - the effort required to hold of this team, who ahs scored more goals than anyone else, then take the 2 chances on goal they got in the whole game is exceptional - they derserve it you can't deny!
i don't understand how the reporter can be so heartless, does he think ivanovic is such a fob(fresh off the boat) that he doesn't understand - ofc not, but he is lacking a certain humanity - ivanovic is a hero and him and terry will own lpool in fa cup!
chelsea for the title!
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Oh they definitly deserve credit for "stopping" Barca... it's a huge feat, but it was still done in ugly fashion and Barca is still miles ahead of them in quality.
I hope Bayern puts Chelsea back in it's place... :sign0151:
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Barca is a better team than Chelsea, but why fuck bother playing if the better team would always win. That's the beauty of football.
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Barca is a better team than Chelsea, but why fuck bother playing if the better team would always win. That's the beauty of football.
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Well said mate.