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Title: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: alexfs on Jul 07, 2011, 03:16: AM
Streetballer vs Freestyler Part 1, Edward & Issy (http://vimeo.com/25825506)

idk if this was posted any time before
i thought some may find this interesting

when he mentions sean - i think he mispronounces his name lol  :grin:
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Liicht on Jul 07, 2011, 04:43: AM
"... but I DO hate on the guys who say they are street football players but freestyle. You're not a street football player"

This video actually pissed me off a little -- i am a street football player but i still enjoy freestyling once in a while... how can i not be a street baller then?
I don't know -- in this video they both seem extremely arrogant and generally negative about freestyle which they have no right to be. Fucked up imo.

Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: alexfs on Jul 07, 2011, 05:11: AM
@liicht i agree
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: tbc on Jul 07, 2011, 05:29: AM
thanks for the post alex, it was interesting to see their perspective on freestyle.
edward van gils approach is more mature towards the subject, only sean seems to have brainwashed him into thinking we are entertainers.
Issy hitman, he just talks like other haters.. lets ask him to try eatw  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Max on Jul 07, 2011, 06:14: AM
i also agree with liicht.
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Palgi on Jul 07, 2011, 06:37: AM
"... but I DO hate on the guys who say they are street football players but freestyle. You're not a street football player"

This video actually pissed me off a little -- i am a street football player but i still enjoy freestyling once in a while... how can i not be a street baller then?
I don't know -- in this video they both seem extremely arrogant and generally negative about freestyle which they have no right to be. Fucked up imo.


if a footballer can do 2 atw and 1htw wearing soccer equipment and calls himself freestyler, it doesn't bother you?
i don't see them arrogant, it's the same if you hate called footballer.
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: DanTheMan on Jul 07, 2011, 10:08: AM
LOL so he thinks freestyle developed from ballers who werent good enough to play ball.. haha..

hes right though, its totally different... i wouldnt wanna be compared to a street soccer player either. hes just stating the facts and the truth... they stay in their lane, we stay in ours..
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: L_I_S on Jul 07, 2011, 02:08: PM
Who's he talking about, which freestyler said they were a street baller?
Even though I agree, it really sounds like he looks down on us and that's one of his major issues with freestyle.
And what's this entertainer bullshit? Street ballers entertain the crowd just like freestyle, they just attract a different crowd. They play on the streets for fun, we play in our yards, garages etc. Freestyle is obviously better for entertaining but that doesn't mean street football isn't a form of entertainment as well.
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Liicht on Jul 07, 2011, 08:10: PM
Who's he talking about, which freestyler said they were a street baller?
Even though I agree, it really sounds like he looks down on us and that's one of his major issues with freestyle.
And what's this entertainer bullshit? Street ballers entertain the crowd just like freestyle, they just attract a different crowd. They play on the streets for fun, we play in our yards, garages etc. Freestyle is obviously better for entertaining but that doesn't mean street football isn't a form of entertainment as well.

debatable
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: L_I_S on Jul 07, 2011, 08:53: PM
Who's he talking about, which freestyler said they were a street baller?
Even though I agree, it really sounds like he looks down on us and that's one of his major issues with freestyle.
And what's this entertainer bullshit? Street ballers entertain the crowd just like freestyle, they just attract a different crowd. They play on the streets for fun, we play in our yards, garages etc. Freestyle is obviously better for entertaining but that doesn't mean street football isn't a form of entertainment as well.

debatable
It was my opinion..
But since you want to debate. Which do you think would be more entertaining to watch for the average person?
I'd say freestyle because even if you don't know anything about freestyle you can still enjoy watching it. It can be performed anywhere with little space. You don't need a cage or a secondary person which makes it more flexible too(therefore more people can be entertained by it since it can be done anywhere).
Weak argument but I think it's pretty obvious that the majority of the average person would definitely choose to watch freestyle over street football.
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Lucaso on Jul 07, 2011, 10:08: PM
Who's he talking about, which freestyler said they were a street baller?
Even though I agree, it really sounds like he looks down on us and that's one of his major issues with freestyle.
And what's this entertainer bullshit? Street ballers entertain the crowd just like freestyle, they just attract a different crowd. They play on the streets for fun, we play in our yards, garages etc. Freestyle is obviously better for entertaining but that doesn't mean street football isn't a form of entertainment as well.

debatable
It was my opinion..
But since you want to debate. Which do you think would be more entertaining to watch for the average person?
I'd say freestyle because even if you don't know anything about freestyle you can still enjoy watching it. It can be performed anywhere with little space. You don't need a cage or a secondary person which makes it more flexible too(therefore more people can be entertained by it since it can be done anywhere).
Weak argument but I think it's pretty obvious that the majority of the average person would definitely choose to watch freestyle over street football.

Agreed. Got the same opinion.
For me those two were pretty arrogant to us and as Dan said "we are ballers who werent good enough to play ball"? What the fuck that means?
If street soccer is so better than freestyle where are World Championships (the real one), bigger interest of Red Bull (Still consider Street Match as experiment) or huge community?
I dont wanna doubt their skills cause I am not even capable of doing it. Also I dont have a problem with staying in my line cause I cant panna even my mom. But I am sure deep in my mind that Freestyle is on much bigger level, more ways to develope and has more potentional than street football.
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: L_I_S on Jul 07, 2011, 10:54: PM
Who's he talking about, which freestyler said they were a street baller?
Even though I agree, it really sounds like he looks down on us and that's one of his major issues with freestyle.
And what's this entertainer bullshit? Street ballers entertain the crowd just like freestyle, they just attract a different crowd. They play on the streets for fun, we play in our yards, garages etc. Freestyle is obviously better for entertaining but that doesn't mean street football isn't a form of entertainment as well.

debatable
It was my opinion..
But since you want to debate. Which do you think would be more entertaining to watch for the average person?
I'd say freestyle because even if you don't know anything about freestyle you can still enjoy watching it. It can be performed anywhere with little space. You don't need a cage or a secondary person which makes it more flexible too(therefore more people can be entertained by it since it can be done anywhere).
Weak argument but I think it's pretty obvious that the majority of the average person would definitely choose to watch freestyle over street football.

Agreed. Got the same opinion.
For me those two were pretty arrogant to us and as Dan said "we are ballers who werent good enough to play ball"? What the fuck that means?
If street soccer is so better than freestyle where are World Championships (the real one), bigger interest of Red Bull (Still consider Street Match as experiment) or huge community?
I dont wanna doubt their skills cause I am not even capable of doing it. Also I dont have a problem with staying in my line cause I cant panna even my mom. But I am sure deep in my mind that Freestyle is on much bigger level, more ways to develop and has more potential than street football.
Qft. Good thing to point out.
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: BigMac on Jul 08, 2011, 12:22: AM
What Issy said was a bit aggressive and he got a bit defensive, weird. What Edward was saying though was quite true, he was a little ignorant saying that everything has been done before though, freestyle has come on 100 times more than street football has in recent years.
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: 62zahiir on Jul 08, 2011, 12:51: AM
They said freestylers can't be street players i can't believe they are dumb :S
Sean.soufiane and many other freestylers do play on the street!
If we can put our time for freestyle if we want to play street man,its all about PRACTICE and Issy said its painful  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: alexfs on Jul 08, 2011, 04:54: AM
Miran ... this is not a freestyle video - move it back to "freestyle chat" plz :)
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Miran Pirner on Jul 08, 2011, 04:57: AM
Most of what they said stands and is true. It's the same thing as when people compare football players like Ronaldinho or C.Ronaldo to freestylers, so don't get your panties in a bunch ladies. ;)
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Miran Pirner on Jul 08, 2011, 04:59: AM
Miran ... this is not a freestyle video - move it back to "freestyle chat" plz :)
It's freestyle related & it's a video, it belongs in the video section.
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Azuuun on Jul 08, 2011, 05:20: AM
hehehe. i understand why he is pissed about it... imagen everyone asking all the time "can you do this around the world?"

same as we are anoyed by getting compaired with football players..

But the funny fact is that we have a differnt sport... they just play football on the street ;) its not that differnt from futsal..
and im pretty sure some of the S3 memebers are closer to their skills when it comes to pannas, then they are close to our tricks..

anyway... freestyle will kick ass in the future so i dont really get anyoied by anyone talking down on our sport... Its just the beginning :)

Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Azuuun on Jul 08, 2011, 05:50: AM
btw, is their any video of them where they actully play any good ones? :)

heard they where up against Touzani and Rathinho onze... and lost?
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Ponant on Jul 08, 2011, 06:45: AM
At the very beginning everything was mixed, guys like nelson de kok, touzani, ratinho... used to play both street soccer and freestyle.

 I hate those dutch guys because due to their arrogance, they killed the evolution of street soccer and his evolution on the same level than freestyle. Why? Because they didn't want to make videos, they were always saying things like " we are the best from far, you can't imagine what we can do. We are hidding, we do not want people to mimic our tricks" and so on.

So what happened? In the same time in years around 2004 and 2005, others guys came with airmoves an nt like Palle, Skora and Fx. They were not from the street soccer culture. They DID make videos to prove their skills, and many tried to mimic them immediately. There was an enthusiasm with freestyle and progressively, street soccer was vanishing. I remember when I began freestyling in 2007, many street soccer, ground or pannas videos were posted on this forum. Look at what we got today... the same again and again boring lowers from Russia. I'm happy we still got guys like Kamalio, Yamato, Yosshi or Michryc... to bring cool stuff to freestyle !

So now, Van gils and Issy are wayyy behind freestylers, they are jealous, so they don't want to be compared to them... but they shlou know they are the only responsible for that...
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: rodrigoFS on Jul 08, 2011, 08:53: PM
Liicht is the man! agree 100%
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Max on Jul 08, 2011, 09:03: PM
Great post ponant!
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Liicht on Jul 09, 2011, 04:15: AM
Who's he talking about, which freestyler said they were a street baller?
Even though I agree, it really sounds like he looks down on us and that's one of his major issues with freestyle.
And what's this entertainer bullshit? Street ballers entertain the crowd just like freestyle, they just attract a different crowd. They play on the streets for fun, we play in our yards, garages etc. Freestyle is obviously better for entertaining but that doesn't mean street football isn't a form of entertainment as well.

debatable
It was my opinion..
But since you want to debate. Which do you think would be more entertaining to watch for the average person?
I'd say freestyle because even if you don't know anything about freestyle you can still enjoy watching it. It can be performed anywhere with little space. You don't need a cage or a secondary person which makes it more flexible too(therefore more people can be entertained by it since it can be done anywhere).
Weak argument but I think it's pretty obvious that the majority of the average person would definitely choose to watch freestyle over street football.

I was really introduced to freestyle through street football. I had seen freestyle and thought it was impressive, but i was never convinced to try it out myself primarily because my ball touch was horrible and I could only juggle to 5.
    Then at a street soccer tournament I met Toft and Brizze -- and they were at the tournament to perform with panna matches on the side. I got my ass kicked and I was amazed by the tricks they pulled of in the ring. It blew me away. I went straight home and watched all their "FC Panna" videos and wanted to be able to do it myself. As i practiced street soccer i started to try and juggle a little bit and was slowly introduced to freestyle too. But it never caught me the same way as street soccer. --- thats why im saying it is debatable because i have a different experience. But i know that the majority of this forum will disagree with me, i'm just stating that it is a very debatable subject.

Nevertheless i love both sports and as posted earlier i think this video is totally disrespectful and i don't like it.
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Adi on Jul 09, 2011, 07:34: AM
I'm moving this to Freestyle Chat.

I think the guy is just being honest and telling it how it is.  It seems most of their frustrations came from some ignorant comments on Youtube... they probably just got tired of it all.

Just how 95% of freestylers hate football, they hate how freestylers are individualistic and not about any aspect of football.
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: alexfs on Jul 09, 2011, 08:01: AM
Miran ... this is not a freestyle video - move it back to "freestyle chat" plz :)
It's freestyle related & it's a video, it belongs in the video section.
a day later...
I'm moving this to Freestyle Chat.

IN YOUR FUCKING FACE MOD  :098: MUAHAHAHAHA

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jk <3 you miran
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Adi on Jul 09, 2011, 08:21: AM
It just depends how you see this thread... I see it more as a discussion on freestyle and street football.  Not trying to stump on my man, Miran. :grin:
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: edward van gils on Jul 15, 2011, 12:35: AM
lol dayum guys i didnt know sum of u guys r that sensitive but for all yall who dont listen right or dont c the big picture ill explain myself
before i do know that i mean and stand behind every word i said! and im not a lil judas like sum of yall spitting shit behind your computer i say it out loud on youtube im jusk speaking my mind and tell shit how i see it! and im 35 years old so i might know a lil more then sum of you guys! i can comment on everybody but this is what i wanne clear out! did i say i look down on anybody? if so show me when! did i say i dont enjoy whatching freestyle? did i say i feel beter then anybody! i said i give props to anybody who is good at anything i said i love sean cus hes fresh and got new stuff (my opion) sum of yall like skills and clear stuff i like crazy shit with backflips and shit! about i cant stand freestyler how say there streetplayers still feel that way do you guys have any idea how many freestylers wanne challenge us and tell me shit about streetsoccer when they have no idea what they r talking about and show off before and talk shit to kids and when we play em we kill them I do have respect and tell evrybody im NOT a freestyler cus the mainstrain dont c the diffrence what if i tell MY fans im the best freestyler in the world and edit dope vids and make people think im a freestylers that would b whack right? and afcourse u can do both but im talking from a proffesional perspective my dudes u need to be a specialist if u wanne became the best in the world! that goes for freestylers and ballers thats life if u dont specialise u will always have to concentrate on both its like proffesional players on the pitch all round players will always be substitutes or play on diffrent position and real strickers and defenders will take their spot before them because there specialists!!! so choose one or be a runner up! and i wanne be the best i dont just wanne participate! and about rathino and touzani they have never won against me and issy hell fucking no!!! no freestyler has beaten us on the pitch but is that a problem i dont even wanne b that disrespectfull and challenge u guys on your disipline and im not even trying to become a freestyler cus i can freestyle if my life depended on it! i love to play ball so whats the problem but on the net kids or whoever always say well sean or touzani can beat them fuck no they cant! i do have a problem with that ! doesnt it bother your guys if you just had a show that kids wanne play u and say dayum i though u guys was better??? because they c all the crazy shit u guys do but have no idea it s two diffrent worlds!! iim trying to separate the two disiplines u should be happy i do!! im out
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: edward van gils on Jul 15, 2011, 01:24: AM
oh one more thing about me saying freestyle started when we had to wait and started playing aroun with the ball and the kids who werent good enough to play is a fact!! did i say u guys arent good enough to play? or is it your guys choice to freestyle instead of playing? i said thats how it started, touzani started because he was injured so he couldnt play anymore ask the dude!! never did i say U guys freestyle because u werent good enough! now its a choice! and im talking about 20 years ago!! and before that it was entertainment juggling was a part of juggling balls cones knives bananas whatever!! but im a baller for life and im proud to be one! if i wanted to b a freestyler i would freestyle but im a baller and was a streetkid u cant denie that even lifestyle is diffrent attitude is diffrent well im a straight up streetballer!! but does that make me better then freestylers no! im a proud and happy to be a baller yes i am!! do i want to be a freestyler no! cus i like to make fun of people on the pitch!!! baller 4 life! and no im not hating just proud! listen good i give props to anybody and can enjoy freestyle once in a while!
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Adi on Jul 15, 2011, 07:29: AM
Respect for coming on and clarifying your thoughts.   :great:
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: tbc on Jul 16, 2011, 12:50: AM
lol dayum guys i didnt know sum of u guys r that sensitive but for all yall who dont listen right or dont c the big picture ill explain myself
before i do know that i mean and stand behind every word i said! and im not a lil judas like sum of yall spitting shit behind your computer i say it out loud on youtube im jusk speaking my mind and tell shit how i see it! and im 35 years old so i might know a lil more then sum of you guys! i can comment on everybody but this is what i wanne clear out! did i say i look down on anybody? if so show me when! did i say i dont enjoy whatching freestyle? did i say i feel beter then anybody! i said i give props to anybody who is good at anything i said i love sean cus hes fresh and got new stuff (my opion) sum of yall like skills and clear stuff i like crazy shit with backflips and shit! about i cant stand freestyler how say there streetplayers still feel that way do you guys have any idea how many freestylers wanne challenge us and tell me shit about streetsoccer when they have no idea what they r talking about and show off before and talk shit to kids and when we play em we kill them I do have respect and tell evrybody im NOT a freestyler cus the mainstrain dont c the diffrence what if i tell MY fans im the best freestyler in the world and edit dope vids and make people think im a freestylers that would b whack right? and afcourse u can do both but im talking from a proffesional perspective my dudes u need to be a specialist if u wanne became the best in the world! that goes for freestylers and ballers thats life if u dont specialise u will always have to concentrate on both its like proffesional players on the pitch all round players will always be substitutes or play on diffrent position and real strickers and defenders will take their spot before them because there specialists!!! so choose one or be a runner up! and i wanne be the best i dont just wanne participate! and about rathino and touzani they have never won against me and issy hell fucking no!!! no freestyler has beaten us on the pitch but is that a problem i dont even wanne b that disrespectfull and challenge u guys on your disipline and im not even trying to become a freestyler cus i can freestyle if my life depended on it! i love to play ball so whats the problem but on the net kids or whoever always say well sean or touzani can beat them fuck no they cant! i do have a problem with that ! doesnt it bother your guys if you just had a show that kids wanne play u and say dayum i though u guys was better??? because they c all the crazy shit u guys do but have no idea it s two diffrent worlds!! iim trying to separate the two disiplines u should be happy i do!! im out
how do we know it is real you?  :017:
i dont think many people think sean or touzani are better than you. Infact i always thought of you and issi as best.
Also. Freestyle is not all about entertaining. Maybe you should check out skora, mp, becs and airmoves, nt etc (watch japanese and creative stuff too, it looks entertatining tho but is hard to achieve)
I agree with almost everything you said, but i wonder how much you know about freestyle.. cuz you need to if you wanna talk about it :) Most of the forum here dont talk about streetsoccer cuz we dont know much about it, nor do we claim to be good on pitch
P.S. I really love your skills and Issy's and would love to hear tales of you beating sean, ratinho, touzani etc  :great:
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: MiniLud on Jul 16, 2011, 10:36: PM
lol dayum guys i didnt know sum of u guys r that sensitive but for all yall who dont listen right or dont c the big picture ill explain myself
before i do know that i mean and stand behind every word i said! and im not a lil judas like sum of yall spitting shit behind your computer i say it out loud on youtube im jusk speaking my mind and tell shit how i see it! and im 35 years old so i might know a lil more then sum of you guys! i can comment on everybody but this is what i wanne clear out! did i say i look down on anybody? if so show me when! did i say i dont enjoy whatching freestyle? did i say i feel beter then anybody! i said i give props to anybody who is good at anything i said i love sean cus hes fresh and got new stuff (my opion) sum of yall like skills and clear stuff i like crazy shit with backflips and shit! about i cant stand freestyler how say there streetplayers still feel that way do you guys have any idea how many freestylers wanne challenge us and tell me shit about streetsoccer when they have no idea what they r talking about and show off before and talk shit to kids and when we play em we kill them I do have respect and tell evrybody im NOT a freestyler cus the mainstrain dont c the diffrence what if i tell MY fans im the best freestyler in the world and edit dope vids and make people think im a freestylers that would b whack right? and afcourse u can do both but im talking from a proffesional perspective my dudes u need to be a specialist if u wanne became the best in the world! that goes for freestylers and ballers thats life if u dont specialise u will always have to concentrate on both its like proffesional players on the pitch all round players will always be substitutes or play on diffrent position and real strickers and defenders will take their spot before them because there specialists!!! so choose one or be a runner up! and i wanne be the best i dont just wanne participate! and about rathino and touzani they have never won against me and issy hell fucking no!!! no freestyler has beaten us on the pitch but is that a problem i dont even wanne b that disrespectfull and challenge u guys on your disipline and im not even trying to become a freestyler cus i can freestyle if my life depended on it! i love to play ball so whats the problem but on the net kids or whoever always say well sean or touzani can beat them fuck no they cant! i do have a problem with that ! doesnt it bother your guys if you just had a show that kids wanne play u and say dayum i though u guys was better??? because they c all the crazy shit u guys do but have no idea it s two diffrent worlds!! iim trying to separate the two disiplines u should be happy i do!! im out
That was painful to read
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: edward van gils on Jul 17, 2011, 12:51: AM
My dude how s that painful to ready I'm not disrespecting anybody
I wanna make sum things clear I'm not a freestryler so don't call me a freestyler cus I suck dick as a freestyler would u wanna n called a balletdancer and no I don't look down on dancers check my site it's also a danceskool it's and example! And people don't c the difference it's irritating me that sum freestylers keep challenging us and talk shit! That's disrespectfull! And doesn't it bother u if somebody tells u edje is better while I can hardly juggle a ball 5 times? Again I respect the freestyle movement and I c what u guys have acomplished and I think that's great but my heart is with streetsoccer is that a bad thing? Am I a hater now? How? I feel good with the attitude and lifestyle as a baller like a lot of u do vise versa what's the big issue here? And. I say what I want out loud that's the kinda guy I am hate me or love me! That my opinion but don't put words in my mouth i never said I look down on anybody or was disrespectful in anyway I just don't wanna b called a freestyler. Not because I feel better but because  a baller! And that's the end of it for me if any of u guys still wanna c this as negative so b it! it's like the bible or Koran people read shit the way they wanna read it!
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: MiniLud on Jul 17, 2011, 02:00: AM
My dude how s that painful to ready I'm not disrespecting anybody
I wanna make sum things clear I'm not a freestryler so don't call me a freestyler cus I suck dick as a freestyler would u wanna n called a balletdancer and no I don't look down on dancers check my site it's also a danceskool it's and example! And people don't c the difference it's irritating me that sum freestylers keep challenging us and talk shit! That's disrespectfull! And doesn't it bother u if somebody tells u edje is better while I can hardly juggle a ball 5 times? Again I respect the freestyle movement and I c what u guys have acomplished and I think that's great but my heart is with streetsoccer is that a bad thing? Am I a hater now? How? I feel good with the attitude and lifestyle as a baller like a lot of u do vise versa what's the big issue here? And. I say what I want out loud that's the kinda guy I am hate me or love me! That my opinion but don't put words in my mouth i never said I look down on anybody or was disrespectful in anyway I just don't wanna b called a freestyler. Not because I feel better but because  a baller! And that's the end of it for me if any of u guys still wanna c this as negative so b it! it's like the bible or Koran people read shit the way they wanna read it!
I ment hard as in difficult. Not hating : D
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: edward van gils on Jul 17, 2011, 04:40: AM
 :embarrassed:
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: tbc on Jul 17, 2011, 04:55: AM
:embarrassed:
i cant believe its real you :D forget the topic. tell us more about yourself, how you started and all!
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Liicht on Jul 18, 2011, 12:01: AM
It is nice to see you come forth and kinda clarify it a little more!

I have massive respect for you as a street soccer player -- i just think it is wrong to hate on people who like doing both things.. because that was what you said in the video (:
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: edward van gils on Jul 18, 2011, 02:55: AM
no problem im not here to hate and i dont agree with you on me hating, did i say u cant do both? ronaldo is a soccerplayer but probably plays tennis too but does that make him a tennisplayer? i have never talked shit against any freestyler i got mad respect for the old skool freestyler that i know NAM THE MAN,  JOHN FARNWORTH,  MR. WOO etc thats my generation and gave mad props to sum new kids that amazed me in abu dhabi! like i said for me its two totaly diffrent worlds so why would i hate? whats my profit of that? u think im affraid of loosing money or jobs? what? give me one reason y i should hate or b jalous i did everything there is to do plus im 35 years old my dude! now i can do a atw and sum basic moves now im a baller or a freestyler? i think its kinda disrespectfull to call myself a freestyler wouldnt you say so? and if i dont agree thats ok but thats my opion thats the way i c thing!
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: edward van gils on Jul 18, 2011, 02:59: AM
@ tbc ill tell u my story soon i dont have the time right now but youll be amazed on how things have changed it was a struggle. believe me things changed and got way more easy then back in the days so always respect your pioneers (not talking bout me im not a freestyler lol) like mr woo nam the man, john abdullah, touzani etc .. (not saying anybody doesnt so dont shoot me again lol)
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: tbc on Jul 18, 2011, 03:09: AM
@ tbc ill tell u my story soon i dont have the time right now but youll be amazed on how things have changed it was a struggle. believe me things changed and got way more easy then back in the days so always respect your pioneers (not talking bout me im not a freestyler lol) like mr woo nam the man, john abdullah, touzani etc .. (not saying anybody doesnt so dont shoot me again lol)
i am sure it will be fascinating :)
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Liicht on Jul 19, 2011, 12:22: AM
no problem im not here to hate and i dont agree with you on me hating, did i say u cant do both? ronaldo is a soccerplayer but probably plays tennis too but does that make him a tennisplayer? i have never talked shit against any freestyler i got mad respect for the old skool freestyler that i know NAM THE MAN,  JOHN FARNWORTH,  MR. WOO etc thats my generation and gave mad props to sum new kids that amazed me in abu dhabi! like i said for me its two totaly diffrent worlds so why would i hate? whats my profit of that? u think im affraid of loosing money or jobs? what? give me one reason y i should hate or b jalous i did everything there is to do plus im 35 years old my dude! now i can do a atw and sum basic moves now im a baller or a freestyler? i think its kinda disrespectfull to call myself a freestyler wouldnt you say so? and if i dont agree thats ok but thats my opion thats the way i c thing!

Im just referring to this quote:

"... but I DO hate on the guys who say they are street football players but freestyle. You're not a street football player"

I am a freestyler (not a very good one, but i do freestyle) AND i am a baller.. why cant i be both?
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: L_I_S on Jul 19, 2011, 01:07: AM
no problem im not here to hate and i dont agree with you on me hating, did i say u cant do both? ronaldo is a soccerplayer but probably plays tennis too but does that make him a tennisplayer? i have never talked shit against any freestyler i got mad respect for the old skool freestyler that i know NAM THE MAN,  JOHN FARNWORTH,  MR. WOO etc thats my generation and gave mad props to sum new kids that amazed me in abu dhabi! like i said for me its two totaly diffrent worlds so why would i hate? whats my profit of that? u think im affraid of loosing money or jobs? what? give me one reason y i should hate or b jalous i did everything there is to do plus im 35 years old my dude! now i can do a atw and sum basic moves now im a baller or a freestyler? i think its kinda disrespectfull to call myself a freestyler wouldnt you say so? and if i dont agree thats ok but thats my opion thats the way i c thing!

Im just referring to this quote:

"... but I DO hate on the guys who say they are street football players but freestyle. You're not a street football player"

I am a freestyler (not a very good one, but i do freestyle) AND i am a baller.. why cant i be both?

I think he was talking about possers ;)
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: lala10biondo on Jul 19, 2011, 09:53: PM
chill out yall...y yal trippin..
just respect each other, do ur thing and don't offend one another....
freestyler don't give a damn bout ballers and baller don't give a dam bout freetyler..both enjoy watching eachother but both stay on their line...no reason to be sending vids n comments hatin on each other...
i got to meet ed n issy n they cool guys they respected me as a freestyle though im nothing like skora, mp ect ect in fact some dude asked issy to freetsyle n he didn't cause i went up to them and sad i do the freestyling...no need to trip
yeah the vid is arorgant n ed as much as i lov u guys when u guys talk your though out yal gotta watch how u say things..i know that is the way ballers are but u can get misunderstanded like in this vid...

yal think it the same way ballers don't want them n their thing to be compared to freestyle just like freetsyle don't wanna b compared to random player that can do just some random trick...

yal just do ur thing stay in your side and respect the others...n when someone comes up and askesbout the suject just slear it out with out arrogance nor hate in u r talk...
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: lala10biondo on Jul 19, 2011, 10:01: PM
n one more things...yal should b trippin more over the fact some dudes like billy n jeremy go around making fools of emself with pathetic coreographys not really showing what freestyle is than over ed n issy clearing shit out (even if arrogant in this vid)....
(with the due respect to the good things billy n jeremy have done but i think they've reach the limit)
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: lala10biondo on Jul 19, 2011, 10:08: PM
think bout it this way....we hate when peps come up n say whats the use of controllin the ball so well if then u can't play on a pitch a much as baller hate when peps say can u do tricks....
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Liicht on Jul 20, 2011, 05:54: AM
n one more things...yal should b trippin more over the fact some dudes like billy n jeremy go around making fools of emself with pathetic coreographys not really showing what freestyle is than over ed n issy clearing shit out (even if arrogant in this vid)....
(with the due respect to the good things billy n jeremy have done but i think they've reach the limit)

All of your three posts are harder to understand than xixo's. Overusage of yal and trippin (; -- and btw, i disagree. Billy and Jeremys choreographys are effin amazing. Showmen!
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Tupac on Jul 20, 2011, 06:00: AM
I thnk Billy and Jeremy are eperformers, not freestylers... People get that mixed up too much.
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: lala10biondo on Jul 20, 2011, 06:01: AM
lol.... sorry if sometimes i write wierd...
i think that at the begining billy n jeremy were gret and i give em props for how they pull out a life performance with profesionalit but i think that if they have such chanced to represent freestyle then they for respect shoul raise their level a bit to also show what freestyle has grown to be. i'm not saying they should bcome hardcore guys but still i rather see then at this point andrew henderson do a show.!
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Damiano on Jul 21, 2011, 04:42: PM
chill out yall...y yal trippin..
just respect each other, do ur thing and don't offend one another....
freestyler don't give a damn bout ballers and baller don't give a dam bout freetyler..both enjoy watching eachother but both stay on their line...no reason to be sending vids n comments hatin on each other...
i got to meet ed n issy n they cool guys they respected me as a freestyle though im nothing like skora, mp ect ect in fact some dude asked issy to freetsyle n he didn't cause i went up to them and sad i do the freestyling...no need to trip
yeah the vid is arorgant n ed as much as i lov u guys when u guys talk your though out yal gotta watch how u say things..i know that is the way ballers are but u can get misunderstanded like in this vid...

yal think it the same way ballers don't want them n their thing to be compared to freestyle just like freetsyle don't wanna b compared to random player that can do just some random trick...

yal just do ur thing stay in your side and respect the others...n when someone comes up and askesbout the suject just slear it out with out arrogance nor hate in u r talk...

Do you speak like this in real life?
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Brizze on Jul 21, 2011, 09:26: PM
chill out yall...y yal trippin..
just respect each other, do ur thing and don't offend one another....
freestyler don't give a damn bout ballers and baller don't give a dam bout freetyler..both enjoy watching eachother but both stay on their line...no reason to be sending vids n comments hatin on each other...
i got to meet ed n issy n they cool guys they respected me as a freestyle though im nothing like skora, mp ect ect in fact some dude asked issy to freetsyle n he didn't cause i went up to them and sad i do the freestyling...no need to trip
yeah the vid is arorgant n ed as much as i lov u guys when u guys talk your though out yal gotta watch how u say things..i know that is the way ballers are but u can get misunderstanded like in this vid...

yal think it the same way ballers don't want them n their thing to be compared to freestyle just like freetsyle don't wanna b compared to random player that can do just some random trick...

yal just do ur thing stay in your side and respect the others...n when someone comes up and askesbout the suject just slear it out with out arrogance nor hate in u r talk...

Do you speak like this in real life?

No.. more like: pasta, la pizza è buona. Io sono da Italia. sì sì!
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: lala10biondo on Jul 22, 2011, 04:50: AM
chill out yall...y yal trippin..
just respect each other, do ur thing and don't offend one another....
freestyler don't give a damn bout ballers and baller don't give a dam bout freetyler..both enjoy watching eachother but both stay on their line...no reason to be sending vids n comments hatin on each other...
i got to meet ed n issy n they cool guys they respected me as a freestyle though im nothing like skora, mp ect ect in fact some dude asked issy to freetsyle n he didn't cause i went up to them and sad i do the freestyling...no need to trip
yeah the vid is arorgant n ed as much as i lov u guys when u guys talk your though out yal gotta watch how u say things..i know that is the way ballers are but u can get misunderstanded like in this vid...

yal think it the same way ballers don't want them n their thing to be compared to freestyle just like freetsyle don't wanna b compared to random player that can do just some random trick...

yal just do ur thing stay in your side and respect the others...n when someone comes up and askesbout the suject just slear it out with out arrogance nor hate in u r talk...

Do you speak like this in real life?

No.. more like: pasta, la pizza è buona. Io sono da Italia. sì sì!

LOL hahahahaha
yeamost of the time...depend who i have infront but when i'm upseat yeah LOL
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: ElPibe on Jul 22, 2011, 07:27: AM
@ tbc ill tell u my story soon i dont have the time right now but youll be amazed on how things have changed it was a struggle. believe me things changed and got way more easy then back in the days so always respect your pioneers (not talking bout me im not a freestyler lol) like mr woo nam the man, john abdullah, touzani etc .. (not saying anybody doesnt so dont shoot me again lol)
Edje...u're my straatvoetbal hero...i started to watch your videos with Akka Magazine (The best street football crew EVER)...maybe you didn't think about one thing... there are street players who practice ground moves...ground moves are part of freestyle football...and so...they're freestyler and street players too... PEACE
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: DanTheMan on Jul 22, 2011, 07:55: AM
Ed is 35 years old!? wtf... ur lookin mighty good.. i would say no homo.. but im gay so ill leave that out!

i hate freestylers who try to play panna.. theyre all shit except for sean, soufiane, and maybe 1 or 2 more..

we should stick to fs, and u guys shud stick to streetball..

its so simple.. and yeh respect for comin on and trying to explain the situation,... i see where ur comin from everyone just needs to have a bit of mutual respect here.. oh yeah, and fuck the little freestyler noobs who think theyre sick at groundmoves and panna when theyre not

swag swag swag woop swag .... LEHGGGOOOO
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Max on Jul 22, 2011, 10:43: PM
Ed is 35 years old!? wtf... ur lookin mighty good.. i would say no homo.. but im gay so ill leave that out!

i hate freestylers who try to play panna.. theyre all shit except for sean, soufiane, and maybe 1 or 2 more..

we should stick to fs, and u guys shud stick to streetball..

its so simple.. and yeh respect for comin on and trying to explain the situation,... i see where ur comin from everyone just needs to have a bit of mutual respect here.. oh yeah, and fuck the little freestyler noobs who think theyre sick at groundmoves and panna when theyre not

swag swag swag woop swag .... LEHGGGOOOO

Pause.... right?
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: AcquavivaFS on Jul 23, 2011, 08:13: AM
lol.... sorry if sometimes i write wierd...
i think that at the begining billy n jeremy were gret and i give em props for how they pull out a life performance with profesionalit but i think that if they have such chanced to represent freestyle then they for respect shoul raise their level a bit to also show what freestyle has grown to be. i'm not saying they should bcome hardcore guys but still i rather see then at this point andrew henderson do a show.!
ummm, so what your saying is that if you dont do hard moves in your lp's you shoudent do lp's because its a lack of respect to freestyle??? well if thats so i will have to point out that jeremy is a much better freestyler than you are in pretty much every aspect, so you shoudent be doing lps in that case....billy & jeremy as said before are performers, not freestylers, meaning, they arent interested in learning how to do nts or 3 rev tricks, they are interested in making different and more entertaining routines for the non freestylers, and at that, they do a  :sign0098:
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: lala10biondo on Jul 24, 2011, 07:41: AM
lol.... sorry if sometimes i write wierd...
i think that at the begining billy n jeremy were gret and i give em props for how they pull out a life performance with profesionalit but i think that if they have such chanced to represent freestyle then they for respect shoul raise their level a bit to also show what freestyle has grown to be. i'm not saying they should bcome hardcore guys but still i rather see then at this point andrew henderson do a show.!
ummm, so what your saying is that if you dont do hard moves in your lp's you shoudent do lp's because its a lack of respect to freestyle??? well if thats so i will have to point out that jeremy is a much better freestyler than you are in pretty much every aspect, so you shoudent be doing lps in that case....billy & jeremy as said before are performers, not freestylers, meaning, they arent interested in learning how to do nts or 3 rev tricks, they are interested in making different and more entertaining routines for the non freestylers, and at that, they do a  :sign0098:


stuck up.!
Title: Re: edward van gills and issy hitman talking about street football and freestyle
Post by: Max on Jul 24, 2011, 07:45: AM
lol.... sorry if sometimes i write wierd...
i think that at the begining billy n jeremy were gret and i give em props for how they pull out a life performance with profesionalit but i think that if they have such chanced to represent freestyle then they for respect shoul raise their level a bit to also show what freestyle has grown to be. i'm not saying they should bcome hardcore guys but still i rather see then at this point andrew henderson do a show.!
ummm, so what your saying is that if you dont do hard moves in your lp's you shoudent do lp's because its a lack of respect to freestyle??? well if thats so i will have to point out that jeremy is a much better freestyler than you are in pretty much every aspect, so you shoudent be doing lps in that case....billy & jeremy as said before are performers, not freestylers, meaning, they arent interested in learning how to do nts or 3 rev tricks, they are interested in making different and more entertaining routines for the non freestylers, and at that, they do a  :sign0098:

first good post by you