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Title: Inconsistent.
Post by: CrestonFS on Apr 07, 2011, 08:59: AM
Ok, I know consistency comes with practice but I practice so hard and feel like I am getting no results. My atw record is 13, my htw record is only 8, and when doing atw-htw combos the highest I ever get is like 8. I can do tatw, matw, and amatw anytime, but latw is inconsistent. I know I just need to practice more but I don't really understand why one day I'll do great and have no problems, and then the next I can't even do 2 atws or 2 htws clean. Its driving me crazy. I have like 2 days great, 2 days bad, etc. The only consistency I have found is in uppers. Did any of you have problems like this?
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: jabarinho on Apr 07, 2011, 10:06: AM
tiredness on some days could be a factor. At least for me. Also motivation levels.....but crazy video week has me really motivated this week so i'm training good these days :grin:
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: CrestonFS on Apr 07, 2011, 10:41: AM
tiredness on some days could be a factor. At least for me. Also motivation levels.....but crazy video week has me really motivated this week so i'm training good these days :grin:

It could be tiredness, but I normally watch a vid before I train. So motavation is no problem for me especially because I have only been fsing for about 6 months or so. So I always am motivated until I find my self messing up on realllly simple tricks and combos.
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: L_I_S on Apr 07, 2011, 02:14: PM
Do the same combo 5 times in a row or 10 times all up before moving on to another combo. If your consistancy doesn't improve, there's something wrong with you.
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: Ricke on Apr 07, 2011, 05:00: PM
Do the same combo 5 times in a row or 10 times all up before moving on to another combo. If your consistancy doesn't improve, there's something wrong with you.

This. And you should try boosting your confidence by settings realistic goals.

I used to and still do a little bit think exactly the same. To improve those records you really have to push yourself and not do "chill freestyle" wich happens when you go out with pretty much no goal and just repeat what you have done before 100 times. You have to push past what you have already done to improve.
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: Alex17 on Apr 08, 2011, 07:32: AM
If you can't do amatw amatw nt 3/5 times, don't go ahead and try amatw amatw amatw nt or in a combo....
basically, if your training amatw nt's combos, and your struggling with amatw's, practice amatw's then move to the nt part....
i know freestylers who are trying tatw amatw nt's, but have trouble doing cross amatw nt.........
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: CrestonFS on Apr 08, 2011, 09:38: AM
If you can't do amatw amatw nt 3/5 times, don't go ahead and try amatw amatw amatw nt or in a combo....
basically, if your training amatw nt's combos, and your struggling with amatw's, practice amatw's then move to the nt part....
i know freestylers who are trying tatw amatw nt's, but have trouble doing cross amatw nt.........

I can do amatw no problem, and I haven't really attempted nt yet. I was trying to build a solid basic foundation before going to nt. Like i think that knowing how to get for example atw atw htw htw atw atw htw htw atw atw consistent will make me have a good foundation to add tricks? or am i training way wrong
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: anhkhoashevakt on Apr 08, 2011, 01:58: PM
If you can't do amatw amatw nt 3/5 times, don't go ahead and try amatw amatw amatw nt or in a combo....
basically, if your training amatw nt's combos, and your struggling with amatw's, practice amatw's then move to the nt part....
i know freestylers who are trying tatw amatw nt's, but have trouble doing cross amatw nt.........

I can do amatw no problem, and I haven't really attempted nt yet. I was trying to build a solid basic foundation before going to nt. Like i think that knowing how to get for example atw atw htw htw atw atw htw htw atw atw consistent will make me have a good foundation to add tricks? or am i training way wrong

Although I'm seriously terrible at lowers, I still don't think you're doing wrong. Building a good basic is essential in moving up to harder tricks. But I think sometimes you should try out some very simple no touches just to get the hang of it, like (forgive me everybody in the "hardcore" department) co  ATW nt, co  HTW nt, and even move on to TATW ATW nt, TATW HTW nt, co MATW nt, co AMATW nt... That will set up some good basics for no touch combos.
About the inconsistency thing, may be you are tired before you start practicing? or may be the lack of motivation at play? May be you can try like this. Set your self a "routine" or "basic" combo consisting of all the easy tricks, like for example hATW - hATW - ATW - HTW - HTW - ATW - HTW - HTW - ATW - co - HTW, and try doing this combo at least for 20 minutes before each practice. Eventually this combo of yours will become consistent, and because it consists of all the basic tricks, you should get the hang of doing specific things, for example hATW to hATW, HTW to ATW... etc. Now it just the matter of more practice to perfect harder and longer combos.   
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: amerimexincan on Apr 08, 2011, 02:05: PM
I have the same problem with alatw i'm inconsistent at it, but I think its just that I need to practice it more
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: Laurence on Apr 08, 2011, 07:26: PM
Maybe try to forget about your records for a little while.
Focus on style.
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: L_I_S on Apr 08, 2011, 09:40: PM
Maybe try to forget about your records for a little while.
Focus on style.
No! He want's to become more consistant. Take your shitty advice elsewhere.
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: dunnowhois on Apr 08, 2011, 10:41: PM
If you can't do amatw amatw nt 3/5 times, don't go ahead and try amatw amatw amatw nt or in a combo....
basically, if your training amatw nt's combos, and your struggling with amatw's, practice amatw's then move to the nt part....
i know freestylers who are trying tatw amatw nt's, but have trouble doing cross amatw nt.........

I can do amatw no problem, and I haven't really attempted nt yet. I was trying to build a solid basic foundation before going to nt. Like i think that knowing how to get for example atw atw htw htw atw atw htw htw atw atw consistent will make me have a good foundation to add tricks? or am i training way wrong

Although I'm seriously terrible at lowers, I still don't think you're doing wrong. Building a good basic is essential in moving up to harder tricks. But I think sometimes you should try out some very simple no touches just to get the hang of it, like (forgive me everybody in the "hardcore" department) co  ATW nt, co  HTW nt, and even move on to TATW ATW nt, TATW HTW nt, co MATW nt, co AMATW nt... That will set up some good basics for no touch combos.
About the inconsistency thing, may be you are tired before you start practicing? or may be the lack of motivation at play? May be you can try like this. Set your self a "routine" or "basic" combo consisting of all the easy tricks, like for example hATW - hATW - ATW - HTW - HTW - ATW - HTW - HTW - ATW - co - HTW, and try doing this combo at least for 20 minutes before each practice. Eventually this combo of yours will become consistent, and because it consists of all the basic tricks, you should get the hang of doing specific things, for example hATW to hATW, HTW to ATW... etc. Now it just the matter of more practice to perfect harder and longer combos.   

Ahahah, that's why your lowers are shitty.
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: Royal Freakiness on Apr 08, 2011, 11:02: PM
If you can't do amatw amatw nt 3/5 times, don't go ahead and try amatw amatw amatw nt or in a combo....
basically, if your training amatw nt's combos, and your struggling with amatw's, practice amatw's then move to the nt part....
i know freestylers who are trying tatw amatw nt's, but have trouble doing cross amatw nt.........

I can do amatw no problem, and I haven't really attempted nt yet. I was trying to build a solid basic foundation before going to nt. Like i think that knowing how to get for example atw atw htw htw atw atw htw htw atw atw consistent will make me have a good foundation to add tricks? or am i training way wrong

Although I'm seriously terrible at lowers, I still don't think you're doing wrong. Building a good basic is essential in moving up to harder tricks. But I think sometimes you should try out some very simple no touches just to get the hang of it, like (forgive me everybody in the "hardcore" department) co  ATW nt, co  HTW nt, and even move on to TATW ATW nt, TATW HTW nt, co MATW nt, co AMATW nt... That will set up some good basics for no touch combos.
About the inconsistency thing, may be you are tired before you start practicing? or may be the lack of motivation at play? May be you can try like this. Set your self a "routine" or "basic" combo consisting of all the easy tricks, like for example hATW - hATW - ATW - HTW - HTW - ATW - HTW - HTW - ATW - co - HTW, and try doing this combo at least for 20 minutes before each practice. Eventually this combo of yours will become consistent, and because it consists of all the basic tricks, you should get the hang of doing specific things, for example hATW to hATW, HTW to ATW... etc. Now it just the matter of more practice to perfect harder and longer combos.  

Ahahah, that's why your lowers are shitty.
:lol_hitting:
i love leha coz he just says the truth right in your face  :040:
but yeah, when you're training for consistency try not to be consistent at useless stuff like adding co in the middle of a combo
if you want to build strength for long combos don't use co in the middle for consistency practice, co in long combos are almost as bad as breaking combos.

what I do for consistency is start with basic shit 1st as warm up (I don't stretch much).
10(w atw - juggle - 3x atw) without dropping the ball
then increase the level gradually
e.g. 10(w atw - htw - atw - juggle - atw - atw - htw - htw - atw) etc etc....
this warm up/consistency practice usually lasts for like 30-45 minutes. after that I try new combos.
I think your muscles are tired, believe it or not. When you're a beginner your muscles/knees aren't used to moving as a freestyler. Freestyle takes a lot out of you. just keep practicing.
Of course I had days like this. Once I met up with my friends to fs, I was ok at sits that time. when they asked me to show some sits, I couldn't even juggle while sitting...  :embarrassed: My muscles were weak.
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: TF on Apr 09, 2011, 01:37: AM
do atw htw hatw atw htw hatw etc as many times as possible. At the end of your session take that record and then beat it in your next training. Do this same technique with atw htw atw htw etc and atw htw htw atw htw htw atw etc and both footed combos of this nature.

Also do things such as htw htw amatw htw htw amatw as many times as possible. Do NOT get frustrated with being unable to do long atw htw combos and move on to trying much harder stuff like nt combos. This is probably the worst thing any freestyler can do and you will pay for it big time in the future.

However, for any of this to be beneficial you must make sure that your mind set is right. This is the biggest factor which determines whether you have a good session, or a fucking wank one. Find some nice new tunes, clean your ball and shoes and just feel positive about what you are trying to do.

Good luck man!
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: CrestonFS on Apr 09, 2011, 02:32: AM
Thank you guys. Lots of good help. I'll work on it  :c017:
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: Laurence on Apr 09, 2011, 02:48: AM
Maybe try to forget about your records for a little while.
Focus on style.
No! He want's to become more consistant. Take your shitty advice elsewhere.

He said some days he can't do 2 atw clean.  Does it not make sense to just concentrate on doing the trick clean as much as possible???
All I know is it's worked for me.

Fine I will take my shitty advice elsewhere, and I invite your ignorant ego to join it.

Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: CrestonFS on Apr 09, 2011, 05:16: AM
Maybe try to forget about your records for a little while.
Focus on style.



No! He want's to become more consistant. Take your shitty advice elsewhere.

He said some days he can't do 2 atw clean.  Does it not make sense to just concentrate on doing the trick clean as much as possible???
All I know is it's worked for me.

Fine I will take my shitty advice elsewhere, and I invite your ignorant ego to join it.


No I appreciate your advice as well. I would like to be the best I can, which means long consistent combos that look good also. So thank you too.
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: dunnowhois on Apr 09, 2011, 05:51: AM
Maybe try to forget about your records for a little while.
Focus on style.
No! He want's to become more consistant. Take your shitty advice elsewhere.

He said some days he can't do 2 atw clean.  Does it not make sense to just concentrate on doing the trick clean as much as possible???
All I know is it's worked for me.

Fine I will take my shitty advice elsewhere, and I invite your ignorant ego to join it.


And what do you mean 'concentrate on doing the trick clean'? How do you do it?
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: alexfs on Apr 09, 2011, 06:09: AM
And what do you mean 'concentrate on doing the trick clean'? How do you do it?
Leha - in the US people struggle on doing clean 2atws - cause yeah they can be unlean i guess  :grin:
crossover-ground atw - that's an example of unclean and unstylish atw  :grin:
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: Laurence on Apr 09, 2011, 06:41: AM
@dunnowhois

Man, my initial post was aimed directly at CrestonFS. 
He described the exact situation I was in a year ago, and I was just trying to help him.

I'm not saying I know everything about freestyle, and I mean no offence to you or L_I_S.  :great:
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: anhkhoashevakt on Apr 09, 2011, 04:13: PM

Ahahah, that's why your lowers are shitty.

Thank you, I guess...
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: alexfs on Apr 09, 2011, 04:27: PM

Ahahah, that's why your lowers are shitty.

Thank you, I guess...
:grin:
leha is clairvoyant - he can tell if you make a decent lower or not
so fancy this - you are born in russia - leha says 'he is not gonna make it'
we go through you from a big rock
because...

(http://dematom.com/images/2010/08/13/58357-this_is_russia_silinym_slava_slabym_smerti.jpg)

no offence intended khoa ;)
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: anhkhoashevakt on Apr 09, 2011, 05:44: PM
It's all cool man. I do know where my lowers stand haha.
Of course that doesn't mean I give up on them.
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: Alex17 on Apr 10, 2011, 05:44: AM
Wow,  russians have a big ego, and think they are kings of everything??????
anyhow, in some points they are right, however; for different freestylers, everything works differently.
if for russians, they are good for them, well great!
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: dunnowhois on Apr 10, 2011, 06:22: AM
Wow,  russians have a big ego, and think they are kings of everything??????
anyhow, in some points they are right, however; for different freestylers, everything works differently.
if for russians, they are good for them, well great!
All are humans and everything of that works for all! Just don't be lazy as you used to be and try it by yourself!
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: SimonFS on Apr 10, 2011, 06:51: AM
Wow,  russians have a big ego, and think they are kings of everything??????
anyhow, in some points they are right, however; for different freestylers, everything works differently.
if for russians, they are good for them, well great!
All are humans and everything of that works for all! Just don't be lazy as you used to be and try it by yourself!
So no one in the world is different from others in any way? Interesting..
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: dunnowhois on Apr 10, 2011, 07:59: AM
Wow,  russians have a big ego, and think they are kings of everything??????
anyhow, in some points they are right, however; for different freestylers, everything works differently.
if for russians, they are good for them, well great!
All are humans and everything of that works for all! Just don't be lazy as you used to be and try it by yourself!
So no one in the world is different from others in any way? Interesting..
In appearance - of course. IIn character - yes. In some 'starting' abilities - too. But in whole thing of course not!
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: tbc on Apr 10, 2011, 08:32: AM
@Leha. how come russian freestylers have so many indoor places available? are there too many in russia?
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: Alex17 on Apr 10, 2011, 11:04: AM
Wow,  russians have a big ego, and think they are kings of everything??????
anyhow, in some points they are right, however; for different freestylers, everything works differently.
if for russians, they are good for them, well great!
All are humans and everything of that works for all! Just don't be lazy as you used to be and try it by yourself!

I don't agree at all!!!!
but ok!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Inconsistent.
Post by: el mafioso on Apr 11, 2011, 03:01: AM
Thank you guys. Lots of good help. I'll work on it  :c017:

No problem man, we're here to help you