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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Help and Advice => Topic started by: walter on Apr 01, 2011, 11:36: PM
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i think i have good co style on my strong foot but really bad co style on my weak i have tryed to improve it but i couldn't
here is a video so you know want i mean about my weak foot co
2 NT Combos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHvHPqJd9T8#ws)
so does anyone have any tips on how to improve the style
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Mimic your right foot. Pay close attention and just copy it.
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
? should he give up lowers too?
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
you need to learn good style co
it's good for combos like co - ahtatw nt or other nts
you should master all basics first
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Yea, ofc you know better. Learn crosses, than learn atw, than finally tatw and the same way all tricks, and you will be new bf freestyle star witn nt after 1,5 years fsing :Woot_Emoticon:
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
I strongly disagree, cross is (almost) completely useless.
Leha is right, especially when those new fucks do atw-atw-co-atw --- BULLMOTHAFUCKINSHIT! It's worthless for improving, there's no point in training style on a co, train style on tatw/amatw/atatw.
? should he give up lowers too?
If you were being serious you're an idiot, and if you were trying to be funny you're an idiot.
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
'Learn' means to train it hardly, not to perform it 10 times.
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
Learn cross, its easy. Good for Lp's because cross 360 is nice for people = money.
I think that having a good cross style is important in having a good amatw style, i had a bad style on this trick crossover, therefore bad amatw, tatw now its is better after working on the cross style(still not good though). Obviously its nicer from a freestylers perspective to not use it in combos, just use atw htw hatw. But it doesnt hurt to learn it i think, once you learn it you don't have to train it regularly.
peace
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
Learn cross, its easy. Good for Lp's because cross 360 is nice for people = money.
I think that having a good cross style is important in having a good amatw style, i had a bad style on this trick crossover, therefore bad amatw, tatw now its is better after working on the cross style(still not good though). Obviously its nicer from a freestylers perspective to not use it in combos, just use atw htw hatw. But it doesnt hurt to learn it i think, once you learn it you don't have to train it regularly.
peace
Amazing advice :D Learn cross for money.
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Eh, how can you use cross in tatw, amatw etc etc without ever learning it? Yes, it is different when doing tricks involving cross than doing only cross ofcourse. But doesn't the cross help you at least get the touch right?
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Eh, how can you use cross in tatw, amatw etc etc without ever learning it? Yes, it is different when doing tricks involving cross than doing only cross ofcourse. But doesn't the cross help you at least get the touch right?
To do cross 10 times in all your life is enough to perfrom all other tricks, so you don't need to train cross.
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I'm not saying cross is useful, but to not learn it at all is stupid.
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I'm not saying cross is useful, but to not learn it at all is stupid.
It takes maximum 2 minutes to realize how to do it, and 3 maximum to perform. Don't think that it can be called 'learn'. Then leaarning of cross is really useful - nothing you get from that.
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
Learn cross, its easy. Good for Lp's because cross 360 is nice for people = money.
I think that having a good cross style is important in having a good amatw style, i had a bad style on this trick crossover, therefore bad amatw, tatw now its is better after working on the cross style(still not good though). Obviously its nicer from a freestylers perspective to not use it in combos, just use atw htw hatw. But it doesnt hurt to learn it i think, once you learn it you don't have to train it regularly.
peace
Amazing advice :D Learn cross for money.
Thx lol
I'm not saying cross is useful, but to not learn it at all is stupid.
It takes maximum 2 minutes to realize how to do it, and 3 maximum to perform.
This is true, i have friends who are soccer players and can't juggle well but i have got them to do Crossovers because its not a technical trick.
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
I strongly disagree, cross is (almost) completely useless.
Leha is right, especially when those new fucks do atw-atw-co-atw --- BULLMOTHAFUCKINSHIT! It's worthless for improving, there's no point in training style on a co, train style on tatw/amatw/atatw.
? should he give up lowers too?
If you were being serious you're an idiot, and if you were trying to be funny you're an idiot.
neither, i was being logical. if he wants to train something. no one tells him it is useless.
and as for you..logic doesnt work. some people like crossover, for example michryc and i find his freestyle very interesting.
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
I strongly disagree, cross is (almost) completely useless.
Leha is right, especially when those new fucks do atw-atw-co-atw --- BULLMOTHAFUCKINSHIT! It's worthless for improving, there's no point in training style on a co, train style on tatw/amatw/atatw.
? should he give up lowers too?
If you were being serious you're an idiot, and if you were trying to be funny you're an idiot.
neither, i was being logical. if he wants to train something. no one tells him it is useless.
and as for you..logic doesnt work. some people like crossover, for example michryc and i find his freestyle very interesting.
Oh yeah, it's totally logical to quit freestyle because someone says not to train cross. Cross gives you almost nothing improvement wise.
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
I strongly disagree, cross is (almost) completely useless.
Leha is right, especially when those new fucks do atw-atw-co-atw --- BULLMOTHAFUCKINSHIT! It's worthless for improving, there's no point in training style on a co, train style on tatw/amatw/atatw.
? should he give up lowers too?
If you were being serious you're an idiot, and if you were trying to be funny you're an idiot.
neither, i was being logical. if he wants to train something. no one tells him it is useless.
and as for you..logic doesnt work. some people like crossover, for example michryc and i find his freestyle very interesting.
Oh yeah, it's totally logical to quit freestyle because someone says not to train cross. Cross gives you almost nothing improvement wise.
Crossovers of course improves your tatw, amatw, matw and other cross(nt) related tricks. So useless for improvement i wouldn't say.
And Walter, do as L_I_S told you, that was a good advice.
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Take advice from russian or don't take it at all :D
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
I strongly disagree, cross is (almost) completely useless.
Leha is right, especially when those new fucks do atw-atw-co-atw --- BULLMOTHAFUCKINSHIT! It's worthless for improving, there's no point in training style on a co, train style on tatw/amatw/atatw.
? should he give up lowers too?
If you were being serious you're an idiot, and if you were trying to be funny you're an idiot.
neither, i was being logical. if he wants to train something. no one tells him it is useless.
and as for you..logic doesnt work. some people like crossover, for example michryc and i find his freestyle very interesting.
Oh yeah, it's totally logical to quit freestyle because someone says not to train cross. Cross gives you almost nothing improvement wise.
wow, rlly do you have any knowledge about lowers at all?
u really think people would learn stuff like amatw amatw nt as fast as they does when they train co amatw nt ?
cross over is a always a push in the start, and for u saying it is not giving any improvement is shit
it is one of the most important trick in freestyle and it is so important to learn it correct with good style cause it affects your whole freestyle career
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
I strongly disagree, cross is (almost) completely useless.
Leha is right, especially when those new fucks do atw-atw-co-atw --- BULLMOTHAFUCKINSHIT! It's worthless for improving, there's no point in training style on a co, train style on tatw/amatw/atatw.
? should he give up lowers too?
If you were being serious you're an idiot, and if you were trying to be funny you're an idiot.
neither, i was being logical. if he wants to train something. no one tells him it is useless.
and as for you..logic doesnt work. some people like crossover, for example michryc and i find his freestyle very interesting.
Oh yeah, it's totally logical to quit freestyle because someone says not to train cross. Cross gives you almost nothing improvement wise.
wow, rlly do you have any knowledge about lowers at all?
u really think people would learn stuff like amatw amatw nt as fast as they does when they train co amatw nt ?
cross over is a always a push in the start, and for u saying it is not giving any improvement is shit
it is one of the most important trick in freestyle and it is so important to learn it correct with good style cause it affects your whole freestyle career
There is only a few fsers in Russia who practices or simply did once co-amatw nt before, for example, amatw-amatw nt. Crossover doesn't affect any style of lowers at all.
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
I strongly disagree, cross is (almost) completely useless.
Leha is right, especially when those new fucks do atw-atw-co-atw --- BULLMOTHAFUCKINSHIT! It's worthless for improving, there's no point in training style on a co, train style on tatw/amatw/atatw.
? should he give up lowers too?
If you were being serious you're an idiot, and if you were trying to be funny you're an idiot.
neither, i was being logical. if he wants to train something. no one tells him it is useless.
and as for you..logic doesnt work. some people like crossover, for example michryc and i find his freestyle very interesting.
Oh yeah, it's totally logical to quit freestyle because someone says not to train cross. Cross gives you almost nothing improvement wise.
wow, rlly do you have any knowledge about lowers at all?
u really think people would learn stuff like amatw amatw nt as fast as they does when they train co amatw nt ?
cross over is a always a push in the start, and for u saying it is not giving any improvement is shit
it is one of the most important trick in freestyle and it is so important to learn it correct with good style cause it affects your whole freestyle career
There is only a few fsers in Russia who practices or simply did once co-amatw nt before, for example, amatw-amatw nt. Crossover doesn't affect any style of lowers at all.
Yeah, because all the russians are known for their great style lol.
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
I strongly disagree, cross is (almost) completely useless.
Leha is right, especially when those new fucks do atw-atw-co-atw --- BULLMOTHAFUCKINSHIT! It's worthless for improving, there's no point in training style on a co, train style on tatw/amatw/atatw.
? should he give up lowers too?
If you were being serious you're an idiot, and if you were trying to be funny you're an idiot.
neither, i was being logical. if he wants to train something. no one tells him it is useless.
and as for you..logic doesnt work. some people like crossover, for example michryc and i find his freestyle very interesting.
Oh yeah, it's totally logical to quit freestyle because someone says not to train cross. Cross gives you almost nothing improvement wise.
wow, rlly do you have any knowledge about lowers at all?
u really think people would learn stuff like amatw amatw nt as fast as they does when they train co amatw nt ?
cross over is a always a push in the start, and for u saying it is not giving any improvement is shit
it is one of the most important trick in freestyle and it is so important to learn it correct with good style cause it affects your whole freestyle career
There is only a few fsers in Russia who practices or simply did once co-amatw nt before, for example, amatw-amatw nt. Crossover doesn't affect any style of lowers at all.
Yeah, because all the russians are known for their great style lol.
All russians know what they must improve in style, in consistency. Yeah, of course, some fsers do have bad style, but at least they know that they should work on it. And to be honest, if any other freestyle country has 150 fsers at least, all bf community would mention that russian have bad style because some out of 150 do have it.
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lol there is a reason why 75% of modern russia's lovely freestylers got shit style, they dont care learning the basics and that has
a following that they do not own style at all.. I thought you knew better, since u are obviously from there
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lol there is a reason why 75% of modern russia's lovely freestylers got shit style, they dont care learning the basics and that has
a following that they do not own style at all.. I thought you knew better, since u are obviously from there
75%? Mention to me at least 5 fsers who really have shit style right now and who trains not for 2 years.
Don't care learning basics? :D Average freestyler in Russia can do 60 htws and 40 hatws, it's average result. For almost all other countries it is someting wild. And of course, all of them take advice on how to improve from better fsers and me.
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lol there is a reason why 75% of modern russia's lovely freestylers got shit style, they dont care learning the basics and that has
a following that they do not own style at all.. I thought you knew better, since u are obviously from there
75%? Mention to me at least 5 fsers who really have shit style right now and who trains not for 2 years.
Don't care learning basics? :D Average freestyler in Russia can do 60 htws and 40 hatws, it's average result. For almost all other countries it is someting wild. And of course, all of them take advice on how to improve from better fsers and me.
how long they have practiced has nothing to do with this case, you said co does not affect either improvement nor style
and that is such a stupid comment, since it is very rare that example the cross in amatw is different than a normal cross
can u please give me some feedback on why u say like u do
by not learning the basics i mean that u dont even care to learn a well executed htw, and that was one example
i will not mention people with shit style because then i would have been going thru youtube for ages, since i know just the big names in russia freestyle
but from what i have seen of videos connected to russia, it is not often i see a smooth style
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your style doesnt have anything to do with a crossover. the shit style on nts (bend style) is connected to a rush on matw nt and it really doesnt have anything to do with crossovers.
furthermore it is realy not important to learn cross. i can do many amatw nt with quite smooth style and i have never done cross amatw nt.
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lol there is a reason why 75% of modern russia's lovely freestylers got shit style, they dont care learning the basics and that has
a following that they do not own style at all.. I thought you knew better, since u are obviously from there
75%? Mention to me at least 5 fsers who really have shit style right now and who trains not for 2 years.
Don't care learning basics? :D Average freestyler in Russia can do 60 htws and 40 hatws, it's average result. For almost all other countries it is someting wild. And of course, all of them take advice on how to improve from better fsers and me.
how long they have practiced has nothing to do with this case, you said co does not affect either improvement nor style
and that is such a stupid comment, since it is very rare that example the cross in amatw is different than a normal cross
can u please give me some feedback on why u say like u do
by not learning the basics i mean that u dont even care to learn a well executed htw, and that was one example
i will not mention people with shit style because then i would have been going thru youtube for ages, since i know just the big names in russia freestyle
but from what i have seen of videos connected to russia, it is not often i see a smooth style
Are you gonna mention at least 5 russian fsers with shit style who started their training not later than 2 years ago? If you are consider that 75% have bad style, minimum 150 russian fsers have bad style, call at least 5 of them. I guess you judge only my style saying about proper htws, and maybe some others.
To be honest, latest vids I've seen from all the freestyle world I hardly can see some freestyle on them.
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your style doesnt have anything to do with a crossover. the shit style on nts (bend style) is connected to a rush on matw nt and it really doesnt have anything to do with crossovers.
furthermore it is realy not important to learn cross. i can do many amatw nt with quite smooth style and i have never done cross amatw nt.
i had shit style at crossover and amatw when i started, when i trained my crossover alot my style became less bendy and my amatw did get affected by that .. so i tell u by own experience, and would u said training co amatw nt before attempting amatw amatw nt will make it easier or not ?
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your style doesnt have anything to do with a crossover. the shit style on nts (bend style) is connected to a rush on matw nt and it really doesnt have anything to do with crossovers.
furthermore it is realy not important to learn cross. i can do many amatw nt with quite smooth style and i have never done cross amatw nt.
i had shit style at crossover and amatw when i started, when i trained my crossover alot my style became less bendy and my amatw did get affected by that .. so i tell u by own experience, and would u said training co amatw nt before attempting amatw amatw nt will make it easier or not ?
would like to see your shit style on amatw and crossovers. and no i wouldnt say cross amatw nt helps on amatw amatw nt. its a different motion.
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your style doesnt have anything to do with a crossover. the shit style on nts (bend style) is connected to a rush on matw nt and it really doesnt have anything to do with crossovers.
furthermore it is realy not important to learn cross. i can do many amatw nt with quite smooth style and i have never done cross amatw nt.
i had shit style at crossover and amatw when i started, when i trained my crossover alot my style became less bendy and my amatw did get affected by that .. so i tell u by own experience, and would u said training co amatw nt before attempting amatw amatw nt will make it easier or not ?
would like to see your shit style on amatw and crossovers. and no i wouldnt say cross amatw nt helps on amatw amatw nt. its a different motion.
You could just train your htws from hands and got pretty good style for amatws.
Yea, I'm some out of that 'a few' russian fsers - I practiced co-amatw nt before thinking that it was gonna help me to learn matw-amatw nt, but it wasn't. I've learnt matw-amatw nt in 2 months after co-amatw nt and didn't see any improving in nts after co-amatw nt.
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what about co - ahtatw/ahmatw/latw nt and other bigger nts?
michryc's combos?
phoenix atw?
crabass?
if you had bend style co, you should not do those combos/moves
or maybe those moves aren't freestyle football :embarrassed:
the problem is that I see most russians doing the same stuff over and over. I don't hate it (I really love it), but you don't respect other people's style. You think your style is REAL freestyle.
Then when you do some "creative" stuff you all get so orgasmic. "FU!@#!@# HE DID co - 360 atw nt!" DAMN!
you should master all moves to have great style overall, more control, and more variety. I'm not saying specifically co, but even other shit like tb.
one question to Dr. Leha, what do you think of freestylers like yamato, yo, martin schopf, jeon kwon etc...? are they freestylers? or must they learn amatw - 15x matw nt?
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Walter, don't even learn cross - useless.
Worst advice you've ever given.
I strongly disagree, cross is (almost) completely useless.
Leha is right, especially when those new fucks do atw-atw-co-atw --- BULLMOTHAFUCKINSHIT! It's worthless for improving, there's no point in training style on a co, train style on tatw/amatw/atatw.
? should he give up lowers too?
If you were being serious you're an idiot, and if you were trying to be funny you're an idiot.
neither, i was being logical. if he wants to train something. no one tells him it is useless.
and as for you..logic doesnt work. some people like crossover, for example michryc and i find his freestyle very interesting.
Oh yeah, it's totally logical to quit freestyle because someone says not to train cross. Cross gives you almost nothing improvement wise.
wow, rlly do you have any knowledge about lowers at all?
u really think people would learn stuff like amatw amatw nt as fast as they does when they train co amatw nt ?
cross over is a always a push in the start, and for u saying it is not giving any improvement is shit
it is one of the most important trick in freestyle and it is so important to learn it correct with good style cause it affects your whole freestyle career
I have shit co style and good tatw/amatw style. why? because I spend time training tatw and amatw, not crossover.
I don't have good knowledge but I know what not to train.
Walter if you really want to train cross over, go for it. I respect that, just know it will not help you much (if any) if you want to do multiple nts.
edit: I didn't read this
your style doesnt have anything to do with a crossover. the shit style on nts (bend style) is connected to a rush on matw nt and it really doesnt have anything to do with crossovers.
furthermore it is realy not important to learn cross. i can do many amatw nt with quite smooth style and i have never done cross amatw nt.
+1
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what about co - ahtatw/ahmatw/latw nt and other bigger nts?
michryc's combos?
phoenix atw?
crabass?
if you had bend style co, you should not do those combos/moves
or maybe those moves aren't freestyle football :embarrassed:
the problem is that I see most russians doing the same stuff over and over. I don't hate it (I really love it), but you don't respect other people's style. You think your style is REAL freestyle.
Then when you do some "creative" stuff you all get so orgasmic. "FU!@#!@# HE DID co - 360 atw nt!" DAMN!
you should master all moves to have great style overall, more control, and more variety. I'm not saying specifically co, but even other shit like tb.
one question to Dr. Leha, what do you think of freestylers like yamato, yo, martin schopf, jeon kwon etc...? are they freestylers? or must they learn amatw - 15x matw nt?
They learn bigger nts like amatw-ahtatw/ahmatw/latw nt instead of cross.
And do you really believe that this guy is the next japanese or michryc? I don't, that's why I give him that advice.
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samuel I'll tell you what man, if co is so pointless and shit because if makes combos easier, why don't you do a 30 move combo with as many crossovers as you need in a video and show it to us instead of showing all the shitty "beck"atw combos that you do in all fucking videos? I learned co-amatw nt, and then landed amatw-amatw nt the next day, and I can bet you my style on that is 100000 times better than yours because you don't practice crossovers at all. Right now you're making a really retarded argument; it's like saying that you don't have to learn alatw to land patw because you can already do an latw, does that make sense? and if you say you've got a nice style on tatw's/amatw's, let us see it man. I'm curious to know how you can give such advice if you can't land any proper nt's yourself
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I love crossovers, like when MichRyc does CO, XO & RCO consecutively its awesome! i wanna learn like him and do them over and over again, i think they're cool, and when i do them infront of other people who dont know shit about freestyle, they are amazed
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samuel I'll tell you what man, if co is so pointless and shit because if makes combos easier, why don't you do a 30 move combo with as many crossovers as you need in a video and show it to us instead of showing all the shitty "beck"atw combos that you do in all fucking videos? I learned co-amatw nt, and then landed amatw-amatw nt the next day, and I can bet you my style on that is 100000 times better than yours because you don't practice crossovers at all. Right now you're making a really retarded argument; it's like saying that you don't hjave to learn alatw to land patw because you can already do an latw, does that make sense? and if you say you've got a nice style on tatw's/amatw's, let us see it man. I'm curious to know how you can give such advice if you can't land any proper nt's yourself
You will see in my lower air video :)
Oh btw I'm not giving advice, I'm relaying what Leha says, and its the reason why every Russian fser sky rockets in ability, they don't practice things they don't need.
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Samuel, please stop acting like you know everything about lowers.. You cant even do a combo at 10 with cross, neither without. And you say that cross dont help on tatw/amatw style? You havent tried it so how can you say it wouldnt make the style better? Its only logical that cross will help tatw when its atw-cross nt movement. Its like doing palle move before learning amatw, it is possible but it will look like shit.
And Leha, cross-amatw nt helped me a lot with the nt movement before i did amatw amatw nt and tatw amatw nt. And tbh, if you take the hardcore aspect away from most russians would you really say they had good style? I think not..
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Samuel, please stop acting like you know everything about lowers.. You cant even do a combo at 10 with cross, neither without. And you say that cross dont help on tatw/amatw style? You havent tried it so how can you say it wouldnt make the style better? Its only logical that cross will help tatw when its atw-cross nt movement. Its like doing palle move before learning amatw, it is possible but it will look like shit.
And Leha, cross-amatw nt helped me a lot with the nt movement before i did amatw amatw nt and tatw amatw nt. And tbh, if you take the hardcore aspect away from most russians would you really say they had good style? I think not..
Most of russians have good style, yes. And that 'most' is not 3-5 fsers like on other countries, kid.
To all of rest - you have 2nts level and wanna prove smth to me? Of course, if you were russian or higher level, maybe I would agree with you in smth, but your logic would be the same if you did 30 tbs before 1 ahmatw and said 'omg, if I didn't train tbs, my ahmatw style would be shit, yeah!'. If that happenned once, twice, it doesn't mean it's truth. I say all of that out of my experience in 'giving advice' to hardcore fsers.
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Samuel, please stop acting like you know everything about lowers.. You cant even do a combo at 10 with cross, neither without. And you say that cross dont help on tatw/amatw style? You havent tried it so how can you say it wouldnt make the style better? Its only logical that cross will help tatw when its atw-cross nt movement. Its like doing palle move before learning amatw, it is possible but it will look like shit.
And Leha, cross-amatw nt helped me a lot with the nt movement before i did amatw amatw nt and tatw amatw nt. And tbh, if you take the hardcore aspect away from most russians would you really say they had good style? I think not..
that doesnt make any sense. the crossover movement of tatw is a totally different movement to the normal crossover movement.
I really dunno why everybody still argues with leha. This guy really has alot of knowledge about lowers as you can see in every russian freestyler. you guys always say krogseter has such a fucking nice improvement. but the improvement rate is only something special in western countries. i guess in russia it would be just average. you should really stop to argue with leha but rather listen to him if you want to improve faster and become a more skilled freestyler.
As a conclusion: crossover is useless unless you want to become a new version of michryc or dont want to go the hardcore way.
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okay what the fuck just because someone is russian means he/she is a good freestyler? are you FUCKING kidding me!? fucking dumbest thing I've ever seen here
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okay what the fuck just because someone is russian means he/she is a good freestyler? are you FUCKING kidding me!? fucking dumbest thing I've ever seen here
Btw I'm not a good fser, I already don't even freestyle at all. You should read some my tutorials then.
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okay what the fuck just because someone is russian means he/she is a good freestyler? are you FUCKING kidding me!? fucking dumbest thing I've ever seen here
Btw I'm not a good fser, I already don't even freestyle at all. You should read some my tutorials then.
okay I don't know if you're trying to be sarcastic or not, but whatever. And I have read your tutorials man, but what's that got to do with russian's improving faster than others? If a russian and american (for example) both start out at the same time, keep up with your tutorials, are you saying that the russian will still improve faster? That's what pissed me off..
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okay what the fuck just because someone is russian means he/she is a good freestyler? are you FUCKING kidding me!? fucking dumbest thing I've ever seen here
Btw I'm not a good fser, I already don't even freestyle at all. You should read some my tutorials then.
okay I don't know if you're trying to be sarcastic or not, but whatever. And I have read your tutorials man, but what's that got to do with russian's improving faster than others? If a russian and american (for example) both start out at the same time, keep up with your tutorials, are you saying that the russian will still improve faster? That's what pissed me off..
Yeah, of course, russian will improve faster. I've almost never mention who much fser should train to have huge improvement. So, it's in mind of each other - russian will be more 'adore' to that than american :)
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okay what the fuck just because someone is russian means he/she is a good freestyler? are you FUCKING kidding me!? fucking dumbest thing I've ever seen here
No your post is the fucking dumbest thing here. of course it doesnt have anything to do with being russian, but russians clearly show the best improvement lately ( MP ARS AKIM ARTES GERMAN ANY0NE etc) because they relay on lehas tutorials.
Of course freestylers from every other country could achieve the same improvement if they would practise like russians do. but read the dumb comments in this thread, nobody trusts in what experienced freestylers say and just stick to their own theories. crossovers being important for style and tatw, matw :D bullshit.
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first of all, would u guys disagree with me if i said that cross is a huge push for people who can do a 10 combo ?
yeah it is obvious that leha has a lot of knowledge, but why did he have shit style ?
if he got sooo much knowledge, then he should be perfectly able to improve his style
i can tell u from own expreience that co helped me to push my nt limits, which would have taken much longer time if i did not learn it step by step
and also when i started freestyle my amatw and co both was bendy, but then i saw how i could improve the cross and my amatw changed also when i got diff co
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first of all, would u guys disagree with me if i said that cross is a huge push for people who can do a 10 combo ?
yeah it is obvious that leha has a lot of knowledge, but why did he have shit style ?
if he got sooo much knowledge, then he should be perfectly able to improve his style
i can tell u from own expreience that co helped me to push my nt limits, which would have taken much longer time if i did not learn it step by step
and also when i started freestyle my amatw and co both was bendy, but then i saw how i could improve the cross and my amatw changed also when i got diff co
Start from end to beginning.
Firstly, your 'nt limits' don't allow you to judge about nts at all.
Then, I will watch at you when you will get your first injury and say 'bye freestyle, but I can't do it more'. I had and have 4 injuries, half of which for the life. Do you know what do you get after injury? For example, you have 40 atws in and you do it proper without any issues, but then you get an injury with knee. What's then? You must re-learn all your technique on atws in and to become master in atws already with that injury. Simply, you learn all of that from the beginning. I had 4 injuries and quitted freestyle after 1 year of getting all of them. My knees were damaged after already 1,5 years of my freestyle, so 2 years with that pain.
Adrian, my advice to you - don't take that hard all comments that you have good improvement or smth that - you have lower than average improvement :/ Why? Because you still train crossovers while other russians perform eatw-alatw after 1 year of freestyle.
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sorry man, I totally missed your point ..
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sorry man, I totally missed your point ..
Then train some reverse tb, come back and say 'woah, now I can understand you'.
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okay what the fuck just because someone is russian means he/she is a good freestyler? are you FUCKING kidding me!? fucking dumbest thing I've ever seen here
Btw I'm not a good fser, I already don't even freestyle at all. You should read some my tutorials then.
okay I don't know if you're trying to be sarcastic or not, but whatever. And I have read your tutorials man, but what's that got to do with russian's improving faster than others? If a russian and american (for example) both start out at the same time, keep up with your tutorials, are you saying that the russian will still improve faster? That's what pissed me off..
What pissed you and everyone else off is being embarrassed by someone who clearly has more knowledge about lowers then you will ever dream of.
Amother thing: I do not claim to have good knowledge in lowers guys, but i take notes on what leha says and try relaying the info to you guys. Why? Because it will help you substantially improve. - not everything I say is complete bullshit, if you guys managed to pull your heads out of your asses you would realize I am only repeating GOOD training advice from a legend.
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okey Samuell, do as Leha says
from now on you should only practice amatw , and when u are good enough you should try to see if it is the same to do amatw matw nt before ever landing co matw nt and how long it takes for u to learn it
you are our experiment mate
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He shouldnt train only amatw to get matw nt - when it comes he will ask me what would be more useful for that.
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He shouldnt train only amatw to get matw nt - when it comes he will ask me what would be more useful for that.
what should he practice then, give ur advice here
i would also said he should practice matw, kamatw and combos with amatw but yeah if we outlock co i am pretty exsitet how advices u will give
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who is dunnowhois? or is that a stupid question?? lol
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dunnowhois is Leha, you remember him mac?
okey Samuell, do as Leha says
from now on you should only practice amatw , and when u are good enough you should try to see if it is the same to do amatw matw nt before ever landing co matw nt and how long it takes for u to learn it
you are our experiment mate
he is our experiment? look at all the russian freestylers and compare their improvement to yours or people who dont listen to lehas advice. isnt MP proof enough?
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ah yeah, ofcourse, who could forget leha?! lol
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Leha, i <3 You
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when i started freestyle my amatw and co both was bendy, but then i saw how i could improve the cross and my amatw changed also when i got diff co
how did you change the style?
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when i started freestyle my amatw and co both was bendy, but then i saw how i could improve the cross and my amatw changed also when i got diff co
how did you change the style?
my style got less bendy lol, when i changed the cross over it got easier to change the amatw aswell.
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when i started freestyle my amatw and co both was bendy, but then i saw how i could improve the cross and my amatw changed also when i got diff co
how did you change the style?
my style got less bendy lol, when i changed the cross over it got easier to change the amatw aswell.
wow what a helpful tip. if you have bend style walter, i give you the advice to practise the movement of tatw or amatw without the ball. just do the movement in the air and concentrate on your leg being stretched. sounds stupid but trust me you will succeed. also if you walk with your feet turned outside ( dunno how to explain it better in english ) concentrate on your foot being turned inside when you do tatw amatw and other moves like that.
if you want you can watch my improvement of style video on my channel http://www.youtube.com/user/m4xfreestyle (http://www.youtube.com/user/m4xfreestyle) . it shows how my style look in the beginning and how it looks now.
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Leha, i <3 You
Hi, my lower star :DD
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I agree that we should spend time argue around and make the forum better and more arguments and all, but all this argument is useless IMO.
1/ When somebody post something on the forum asking "How to improve crossover style" it's because he's trying to do a crossover. He wasn't trying to (at least not when he posted the thread in the 1st place) learn some huge no touch or to improve really fast, he was trying to do a freaking crossover with good style, damn it! Then go straight to the point and tell him your best advice about doing a freaking crossover! No offense to you but my gosh Leha if you're in my Literature class writing a paper and you present the things in there the way you do now, I know that your paper's gonna receive this comment by the instructor: "Huge deviation (digression) from the subject matter!" or just basically "Are you *beep*ing kidding me?"
2/ You guys have to understand that freestyle isn't about improvements all the time! Some people comes to the sport as a form of entertainment, a form of relaxing after a day of studying or working. They just want to have fun, to relax. Therefore, we should honor these people by not telling them to stop doing something or another thing, because it's supposed to be fun, and furthermore, as it is FREEstyle, they should be allowed to practice anything that they want to practice. If you guys want to change the name of freestyle into something like "restrictinstyle" or "hardcorestyle" or "improvementstyle" that's fine by me, but now it's still freestyle so please people, allow other people to learn the things they like to learn!
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I agree that we should spend time argue around and make the forum better and more arguments and all, but all this argument is useless IMO.
1/ When somebody post something on the forum asking "How to improve crossover style" it's because he's trying to do a crossover. He wasn't trying to (at least not when he posted the thread in the 1st place) learn some huge no touch or to improve really fast, he was trying to do a freaking crossover with good style, damn it! Then go straight to the point and tell him your best advice about doing a freaking crossover! No offense to you but my gosh Leha if you're in my Literature class writing a paper and you present the things in there the way you do now, I know that your paper's gonna receive this comment by the instructor: "Huge deviation (digression) from the subject matter!" or just basically "Are you *beep*ing kidding me?"
2/ You guys have to understand that freestyle isn't about improvements all the time! Some people comes to the sport as a form of entertainment, a form of relaxing after a day of studying or working. They just want to have fun, to relax. Therefore, we should honor these people by not telling them to stop doing something or another thing, because it's supposed to be fun, and furthermore, as it is FREEstyle, they should be allowed to practice anything that they want to practice. If you guys want to change the name of freestyle into something like "restrictinstyle" or "hardcorestyle" or "improvementstyle" that's fine by me, but now it's still freestyle so please people, allow other people to learn the things they like to learn!
1. Are you pleasure watching someone wasting his time? Me not.
2. But deeply in the mind almost each of us wanted to be one of the bests, if not the best. It's much 'funnier' to have master skills practicing them at each training, than training crosssover watching at others doing eatw.
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1. Are you pleasure watching someone wasting his time? Me not.
2. But deeply in the mind almost each of us wanted to be one of the bests, if not the best. It's much 'funnier' to have master skills practicing them at each training, than training crosssover watching at others doing eatw.
1/ As I said before, he just want to learn a crossover, and he never says anything about fast improvement or not, so can it be called "wasting his time" when you fullfill his objective of learning a crossover? I think not.
2/ That feeling is not with all of us man! Some people surely have that feeling, but some others do not, and still some others have the competitive feeling in the beginning, but then realizes certain things and begins to just doing it for fun. Who knows, right? You don't know whatever other people are thinking, do you?
About training crossover while others doing EATW. I can seriously picture that in my mind right now. That'd be Michryc training with Skora! Don't deny it, most combos Michryc does consists of crossover no touches, like co TAATW nt co nt MATW nt co nt MATW nt and so on (his latest video demonstrates that one perfectly)... and Skora is the one doing AEATW and EATW combos. Somehow that doesn't feel so ashamed in my taste...
I know that you guys Russian have some of the best tips for improvements in the world, and I'm glad that you guys are all helping people to improve and stuff; but you guys have to realize that sometimes there are people who are into freestyle not to improve fast or to become the best, but rather just to have fun, meeting new people... etc. The best solution is not to tell them not to do certain kinds of stuff, but let them try out as many things as they can, and provide tips about it on your own (of course, if you have any).
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Why stating the obvious khoa? Of course this discussion is only for people who care about improvement. If you dont, just dont read this topic.
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Why stating the obvious khoa? Of course this discussion is only for people who care about improvement. If you dont, just dont read this topic.
No I wasn't saying that. I mean Walter originally asked you guys to show him how to improve his crossover style. And you guys turned the topic into something like: "How to improve the fastest and ignore certain tricks in the process" kinda thing.
I basically mean just give the guy what he wants.
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Why stating the obvious khoa? Of course this discussion is only for people who care about improvement. If you dont, just dont read this topic.
No I wasn't saying that. I mean Walter originally asked you guys to show him how to improve his crossover style. And you guys turned the topic into something like: "How to improve the fastest and ignore certain tricks in the process" kinda thing.
I basically mean just give the guy what he wants.
I gave him what he wanted, plus the additional tip that he shouldnt learn ( perfect ) crossover but rather concentrate on matw tatw amatw etc.
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Atleast Leha got some free buttlicking by an american in this thread.
Now i hope walter learns his co too!
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Atleast Leha got some free buttlicking by an american in this thread.
Now i hope walter learns his co too!
I'd be offended if you were any good :)
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when i started freestyle my amatw and co both was bendy, but then i saw how i could improve the cross and my amatw changed also when i got diff co
how did you change the style?
lol sorry, i completely ignored the question
u should try to do the co different than before, everybody can change their style if they want to
but it will take time, u shall just try and try different co styles and figure out on your own
and when you see how u do it without the bend, u should just practice it that way and then u get used to it ..
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i improve my co style, is simply perfect line in the leg that pass up the ball.
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Maybe i'm completely wrong here or whatever....but
in the two clips you showed, you only used your "weak" left foot to spring yourself off the ground.
maybe you need to improve your balance with your "strong" right foot.
it could be that your right foot is the best for controling the football but not at balancing your weight.
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Okey guys I thought about this discussion, and I don't care if u disagree with what I am going to write now cause it is so true
I thought about the case, and if you put a fully grown up person with muscles beside a younger person which does not have that muscles and is skinny
You will have so different results, the reason Leha says that CO does not affect improvement or style at all is because in Russia there is only grown up Freestylers which he helps and give helpful tips (there is probably just a few younger persons 12-14 years old idk)
Well, my point is if you start to Freestyle when you are fully developed you will have so much advantage than those who are not developed
You guys which is taller, stronger and faster would probably learn to lift amatw way faster than those who are younger
I did always struggle to lift the amatw, but now 2 years later there is no problem for me
i hope you guys understood what i ment..
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and you are wrong again. younger people are way more flexible than fully developed people so they have huge advantages in learning lowers. plus you dont know how old the russian freestyler sare, i bet they arent that old. Leha told you there are 150 freestylers in russia, how many freestylers do you know from russia? not even 20 i guess so you cant know the average age of russian freestylers.
the reason why you can lift amatw easier after 2 years of freestyle is: practise....! what a surprise.It doesnt have anything to do with the development of your body.
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dude, do not talk about stuff you dont have a single clue about.
when did you start freestyle, have you even been in the age of 12-13 and freestyled ?
i have been there, and i know how it was when i had to learn stuff like amatw matw nt step by step because i really struggled with it
when i was not that developed as i am today my improvement was so much slower because my body was not strong enough
yes, i probably dont know if there is any young freestylers in russia
but by every freestyler i have seen which is from russia, haves a pretty developed body which makes it easier to improve
and btw as i have mention earlier i got injuried when i was 14, 9 months later i was 15 and my body had been stronger and i can tell you that improved 10times faster than before
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ok then look at for example kostya: also very small and by far not fully developed but decent improvement and good skills. also LKR has insane improvement. just because you didnt practise that much or practised wrong doesnt mean others can improve more with the same age. i would like to end this discussion now, you are too young to accept something from more experienced people. I was the same at your age.
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ok then look at for example kostya: also very small and by far not fully developed but decent improvement and good skills. also LKR has insane improvement. just because you didnt practise that much or practised wrong doesnt mean others can improve more with the same age. i would like to end this discussion now, you are too young to accept something from more experienced people. I was the same at your age.
LOL, have you seen kostyas nt level ? :D
LKR is way more developed than a normal 14 years old kid
i do not want to make enimies with you, but it seems like you are ashamed to agree with somebody which is younger than you..
you have probably more experience than me, but just realize facts pleaseee
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Btw about freestylers in Russia - now we just started beginner comp, there we have 100 participants - 100 begonners, then +100-150 not beginners= >200 fsers in Russia :)
About age in freestyle - it's all about HOW you train what you wanted to get. Of course, it's different to train, for example, amatw with 180 cm height and 150, but there exists some approach how to get perfect amatw in both cases.
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i agree with max here...
getting height on a trick like amatw is simply a case of a quick ankle reflex, nothing to do with leg strenth (until you are really tired, thats when it becomes to do with leg stregth). To get a high amatw u just power into the crossover and then use a flick of the top of your foot (which comes from the ankle) to lift the ball.
the reason why older fsers achieve this kind of stuff quicker is not for any physical reason, its usually just because they are likely to be mentally stronger and quicker to notice the mistakes that they are making.
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Before you give your advice make sure you know the persons goals. You wouldn't tell a 20k endurance runner to sprint a lot more, would you?
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Before you give your advice make sure you know the persons goals. You wouldn't tell a 20k endurance runner to sprint a lot more, would you?
Then after 1st post there should be no more of them here - nobody knows his person goals.
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Before you give your advice make sure you know the persons goals. You wouldn't tell a 20k endurance runner to sprint a lot more, would you?
Then after 1st post there should be no more of them here - nobody knows his person goals.
Correct. But everyone insisted on teaching this freestyler how to become a hardcore freestyler when all he asked for was how to improve his co style. His goal here is to improve his cross over style and that's what we should help him with.
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Before you give your advice make sure you know the persons goals. You wouldn't tell a 20k endurance runner to sprint a lot more, would you?
Then after 1st post there should be no more of them here - nobody knows his person goals.
Correct. But everyone insisted on teaching this freestyler how to become a hardcore freestyler when all he asked for was how to improve his co style. His goal here is to improve his cross over style and that's what we should help him with.
If someone asks here how to make his suicide better-watching, will you give him advice on it? I guess, you will advice him not to do that.
And yeah, to train crossover style is similar to do suicide.
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Before you give your advice make sure you know the persons goals. You wouldn't tell a 20k endurance runner to sprint a lot more, would you?
Then after 1st post there should be no more of them here - nobody knows his person goals.
Correct. But everyone insisted on teaching this freestyler how to become a hardcore freestyler when all he asked for was how to improve his co style. His goal here is to improve his cross over style and that's what we should help him with.
If someone asks here how to make his suicide better-watching, will you give him advice on it? I guess, you will advice him not to do that.
And yeah, to train crossover style is similar to do suicide.
lmao! Completely different in my opinion but okay Leha.
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Before you give your advice make sure you know the persons goals. You wouldn't tell a 20k endurance runner to sprint a lot more, would you?
Then after 1st post there should be no more of them here - nobody knows his person goals.
Correct. But everyone insisted on teaching this freestyler how to become a hardcore freestyler when all he asked for was how to improve his co style. His goal here is to improve his cross over style and that's what we should help him with.
If someone asks here how to make his suicide better-watching, will you give him advice on it? I guess, you will advice him not to do that.
And yeah, to train crossover style is similar to do suicide.
hahahaha leha, that was a good one!
@max, TF is a better example in this case than kostya. he doesnt do co tricks much.
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i want to improve my weak co style because i think that if i dont then my weak tatw,amatw etc will be bad style
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i want to improve my weak co style because i think that if i dont then my weak tatw,amatw etc will be bad style
will be? you can't now if you haven't tried before...