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Title: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: mitchy on Mar 23, 2011, 10:00: AM
Right after writing the long bit i did on page 2 of 'rename' matw I have realised something, so please read this once and it all carefully

I am putting my hands up and say my first topic is arrogant because It has been a very long time since matw was made and the majority of people on here first saw freestyle when it had developed massively. Alot of people understandably are thinking wtf was it as big deal as some of the old school members are saying, this will bring back memories for some but here is a tad of history for many to learn, hers why:

When this forum started, the ONLY videos we had, was Touzani 1 & 2, an Nelson 1 - THREE freestyle online videos

Me palle and a only couple others started to put combos together which was impressing a lot of people, there we ABOUT FIVE freestylers!

Touzani was an online God people saw what he done short combos and thought it was fake, that was how amazing it was it had never ever been seen bare in mind

Now before matw believe it or not the only tricks were atw, htw, toe-bounce, crossover, tatw. That is it. And the gap between matw coming out was a VERY long time of the same stuff, more videos came, same moves, it didn’t seem possible that there was anything else you could actually do and nothing new was coming up in videos

So one night before meeting my mate to make my second video I thought fuck it, why not try inside atw into a cross-over thinking it might be impossible to actually do so the next day when I met my mate it went like this…

- tried it, I fell over, I got up
- tried it again, fell over & still seems impossible, I got up
- tried it again over 20 more times and failed
- tried again landed with my foot on the ball, fell on my angle and rolled around in pain, got up
- realised if I got my foot under the ball I could make the cross over, so started filming
- after over an hour of attempts in pain with a swollen ankle, I hit it perfectly and carried on juggling

I posted my video on the forum and OTHER members called it mitch atw, not me, I wasn’t even sure but went along with it.

Not long after this there were gradually more and more new moves being made because people realised ‘actually that wasn’t so difficult to do, so maybe this isn’t and I can do it’ example - palle came up with patw and more and more got discovered

Now im not saying matw wouldn’t of got found because obviously it would have but I was the one who sat down and thought about being unique and going for it and thought fuck it and went for it and did it. And anyone from back then Adi Benbow etc etc will tell anyone 100% that it triggered off many new moves that no one thought was possible

I know that was long but I think it is interesting to know the beginning of the beloved freestyling when there was 4 or 5 of us because look how big it is now, the main credit goes to Touzani for me for the whole thing kicking off, but I certainly played my part in the begging,

thanks for reading

Mitchy
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Tupac on Mar 23, 2011, 10:05: AM
I now understand the history of the matw!
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Christof on Mar 23, 2011, 10:05: AM
haha your fine for me. i thought your first post here was pretty funny.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Golo-2the-mejic on Mar 23, 2011, 10:08: AM
And if I remember correctly, Mitchy was the first one to do atatw aswell.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: mitchy on Mar 23, 2011, 10:11: AM
thats right my Golo my lovely allthough that was when alot of things started to kick of but the matw stood out as it was the first trick to progress from the same old tricks we had for over a year
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: alexfs on Mar 23, 2011, 10:19: AM
well respect for writing that out mitchy - but tbh your first post and the ones following it - were quite arrogant
now i like you more :)
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: mitchy on Mar 23, 2011, 10:25: AM
ty Alex (Y) I always used to write random shit before i posted any videos back in the day me and Adi were even at war but then we got used to eachother and all had a good laugh, shame the old forum got deleted really could have found when touzanis first video was posted and everyone passing out lol
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: SvenF on Mar 23, 2011, 10:42: AM
Cool story.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Tupac on Mar 23, 2011, 12:09: PM
http://oi55.tinypic.com/2zs1jdw.jpg (http://oi55.tinypic.com/2zs1jdw.jpg)
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: alexfs on Mar 23, 2011, 01:54: PM
http://oi55.tinypic.com/2zs1jdw.jpg (http://oi55.tinypic.com/2zs1jdw.jpg)
lolz  :grin:
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Liicht on Mar 23, 2011, 09:11: PM
http://oi55.tinypic.com/2zs1jdw.jpg (http://oi55.tinypic.com/2zs1jdw.jpg)

funny, coming from you  :039:
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: DanTheMan on Mar 23, 2011, 09:59: PM
fair play to you for this post i dont find you to be an asshole any longer... i always thought palle was first to do atatw  :PDT_Armataz_01_37:
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Reynoldz on Mar 23, 2011, 10:48: PM
That's a cool story. Do you still freestyle a bit?
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: mitchy on Mar 23, 2011, 10:57: PM
can still do all the stuff i used to do but havent advanced but am consistant with it, and i dantheman....i thought you were someone else that used to call himself dantheman, realised now your not who i thought.....my bad lol
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Tupac on Mar 23, 2011, 11:02: PM
http://oi55.tinypic.com/2zs1jdw.jpg (http://oi55.tinypic.com/2zs1jdw.jpg)

funny, coming from you  :039:
:039: hi!
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: tbc on Mar 24, 2011, 12:39: AM
I hope you tell this to all the people you tell about CR doing your trick.
i respect that you made matw like the way you said you did. when i first found out tatw, i also thought matw would be impossible :)
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Adi on Mar 24, 2011, 03:58: AM
Mitch is a legend people.  Give him the credit he deserves.  All freestylers should have mad respect for those like Mitch.  He didn't roll those ankles for nothing. :grin:
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: SvenF on Mar 24, 2011, 04:19: AM
Mitch is a legend people.  Give him the credit he deserves.  All freestylers should have mad respect for those like Mitch.  He didn't roll those ankles for nothing. :grin:

No.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: SvenF on Mar 24, 2011, 04:20: AM
Palle is a legend, Mitchy is not.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Adi on Mar 24, 2011, 04:33: AM
Yeah, because you weren't around back in the day.  Unappreciative kids. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: SvenF on Mar 24, 2011, 05:05: AM
Yeah, because you weren't around back in the day.  Unappreciative kids. :rolleyes:

Palle is a legend because of what he's done to freestyle in general. What has Mitchy done? He was just lucky to be around and do tatw with an inside atw. Even if I wasn't around back in the day, does that make me an uninformed "kid"? If I knew nothing about freestyle, your sentence would make sense, yes.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: alexfs on Mar 24, 2011, 05:15: AM
Yeah, because you weren't around back in the day.  Unappreciative kids. :rolleyes:

Palle is a legend because of what he's done to freestyle in general. What has Mitchy done? He was just lucky to be around and do tatw with an inside atw. Even if I wasn't around back in the day, does that make me an uninformed "kid"? If I knew nothing about freestyle, your sentence would make sense, yes.
+100500

not only he came and insulted some people, then started bragging about his "huge" contribution to fs - inventing matw is not a big deal
why should i appreciate that?
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Mike on Mar 24, 2011, 07:07: AM
Lol I read what has been said about Mitch and what Mitch said and it's pretty damn funny.

I remember when matw was first displayed to the world and it was pretty awesome at the time. I also remember not liking naming the trick "matw" and instead wanting to name it rtatw, which, even further, Mitch said he was OK with. More people seemed fond with matw though. That was a long time ago and I can't back up any of it since it's all deleted.

Not in my wildest fantasies did I see Mitch coming here after 6 years and bragging about his achievements at all. So much for growing up, eh?

Though I would like to point out that eventhough the complexity of the trick isn't the highest, inventing matw was pretty huge AT THE TIME. Mitch contributed to the fact that trying to come up with new tricks isn't pointless and should thus be somewhat respected.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Adi on Mar 24, 2011, 07:19: AM
It's his sense of humour people.  He's fucking around with all of you and you are getting offended by it.

I know Palle has done 10x more for freestyle, but Mitch deserves his credit.

+10,0000x that. :grin:
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: BigMac on Mar 24, 2011, 08:43: AM
Once again I have no words for your topic mitch lol, it's kind of gay that you have came back and demanded respect from everyone when nobody has shown any disrespect in the first place.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: SvenF on Mar 24, 2011, 08:52: AM
It's his sense of humour people.  He's fucking around with all of you and you are getting offended by it.

I know Palle has done 10x more for freestyle, but Mitch deserves his credit.

+10,0000x that. :grin:

Very mature thing to do for a 22 year old.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: mitchy on Mar 24, 2011, 09:28: AM
Once again I have no words for your topic mitch lol, it's kind of gay that you have came back and demanded respect from everyone when nobody has shown any disrespect in the first place.

i didnt domand any respect i was pissing about then people disrespected then i explained then everyone was like 'oh ok' so how has as pathetic debate now come up? adi is right im afraid alot of kids or kid like people here or people who cant understand any sort of joke or banter, really sad to see lads

and ps ive never said im a legend i was showing you how all complex stuff began and this was a sensible thread so stop arguing between eachother Adi can have his own opinion and was around back then which is the time we are talking about
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: BigMac on Mar 24, 2011, 09:39: AM
That is some boring banter you got there mate.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: mitchy on Mar 24, 2011, 09:49: AM
wasnt for you was it
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: BigMac on Mar 24, 2011, 09:59: AM
ok  :sign0098:
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: mitchy on Mar 24, 2011, 10:05: AM
ok i start this thread, people read, and appricate it.....now people are aruging about palle being a legend etc? i feel sorry for the people getting into freestyle now with half the people they have to post with, look how this thread started then ended up, grown-up - melts
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: BigMac on Mar 24, 2011, 10:08: AM
Just leave if you don't like the people here lol
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: mitchy on Mar 24, 2011, 10:12: AM
dont mind chatting to people who know what they are talking about
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: SvenF on Mar 24, 2011, 12:28: PM
ok i start this thread, people read, and appricate it.....now people are aruging about palle being a legend etc? i feel sorry for the people getting into freestyle now with half the people they have to post with, look how this thread started then ended up, grown-up - melts

Way to go, Einstein.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: DanTheMan on Mar 24, 2011, 09:29: PM
MACCAS BACK!!!!! yeeeeeeeees...

Hail king Macca, i missed u man!
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: mitchy on Mar 24, 2011, 10:50: PM
ok i start this thread, people read, and appricate it.....now people are aruging about palle being a legend etc? i feel sorry for the people getting into freestyle now with half the people they have to post with, look how this thread started then ended up, grown-up - melts

Way to go, Einstein.

EXACTLY my point, thank-you
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Max on Mar 25, 2011, 12:39: AM
Ok mitch you are really an idiot. Who do you think you are? Not even people like palle or skora who are Real legends can behave so arrogant. What have you done for freestyle? Taking tatw and do it inside? Come on thats nothing genious at all. And how you are telling this story is even more funny. If you really fell that often while trying matw it is better that you stopped freestyle because you have 0 talent. All you achieved with this thread is a community disrespecting you, congrats. Best thing now is to leave.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Ricke on Mar 25, 2011, 01:26: AM
Man, i never pictured the one "inventing" matw to act like this.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: BigMac on Mar 25, 2011, 07:32: AM
MACCAS BACK!!!!! yeeeeeeeees...

Hail king Macca, i missed u man!

haha hello!
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: mitchy on Mar 26, 2011, 09:13: AM
To act like what max? just explained everything sensibly didnt i? yes? and people like you as predicted are trying to be clever, i dont have a clue who you are max, lets keep it that way ty
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Reynoldz on Mar 26, 2011, 09:52: AM
Mitchy - Max is a proper freestyler who is fucking sick and can do real combo's and amazing tricks (patw & eatw) so yeah now you know who he is and he's alot better than you so shut the fuck up  :great:
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: SvenF on Mar 26, 2011, 11:28: PM
Mitchy - Max is a proper freestyler who is fucking sick and can do real combo's and amazing tricks (patw & eatw) so yeah now you know who he is and he's alot better than you so shut the fuck up  :great:

Please don't throw these new terms at Mitschi, he's fucking oldschool and probably only knows atw, htw, tatw and matw.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Max on Mar 26, 2011, 11:41: PM
To act like what max? just explained everything sensibly didnt i? yes? and people like you as predicted are trying to be clever, i dont have a clue who you are max, lets keep it that way ty

i am someone who can do your revolutionary move 8 times no touch and didnt fell as much as you did while trying a single matw.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Jak on Mar 26, 2011, 11:59: PM
But i am the queen of the forest, not ONCE not TWICE but THRICE!
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: G-Kid on Mar 27, 2011, 12:50: AM
If you was to father a boy. Would others refer to him as "You son of a mitch?".
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Reynoldz on Mar 27, 2011, 04:04: AM
If you was to father a boy. Would others refer to him as "You son of a mitch?".

Hahahahahahahhah
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: stefanfreestylez on Mar 27, 2011, 08:47: AM
anyone know where i can find an old video Rathino in like black ac milan pants? cant remember what its called  :rolleyes: lol and i know its off topic  :great:
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: KellerFS on Mar 27, 2011, 10:27: AM
Cool story.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: GrIzz on Mar 27, 2011, 06:54: PM
Credit due to where credit belong, and you invented matw. Matw is yours. Beacuse someone is better in a move doesnt make The trick theirs.
Saying this there Are many ppl better than palle in patw and the patw that palle first posted has been discussed weather it was landed or not, right? Why dont we hand patw too Anders then wich was second on this move? Iam just saying, not that I mean it. Situation,- bolt gets wr but In the pressroom he mocks everybody, should them just delete the reckord?
With the attitude you got though nobody wants too see you for another 6years.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: JonatanFs on Apr 04, 2011, 07:15: AM
Yeah, because you weren't around back in the day.  Unappreciative kids. :rolleyes:

Palle is a legend because of what he's done to freestyle in general. What has Mitchy done? He was just lucky to be around and do tatw with an inside atw. Even if I wasn't around back in the day, does that make me an uninformed "kid"? If I knew nothing about freestyle, your sentence would make sense, yes.

It is correct what you say Sven, it doesnt make you a "uninformed kid" But i think Mitchy should get the creds he deserved. Matw is a very central trick in todays freestyle. So thanks to Mitchy we now have tricks like, matw, amatw, ahmatw, etc. Im not saying its all his fault that those tricks were invented but he played a central role by inventing the matw. I know that there could have been another who invented the matw to. If Mitchy hadnt maybe some other guy would, but dont take the creds away from mitchy of that reason.
Im just saying my opinion, doesnt say its right, but thats what i mean :)
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Golo-2the-mejic on Apr 05, 2011, 04:31: AM
I just had to say that quoting someone and leaving the post "empty" is the stupidest and gayest shit ever. Hate when people do that. Don't you have your own opinion in your own words, motherfucker?!!

People like that should be banned for postboosting and killed for fun.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Gustav on Apr 05, 2011, 07:13: AM
I just had to say that quoting someone and leaving the post "empty" is the stupidest and gayest shit ever. Hate when people do that. Don't you have your own opinion in your own words, motherfucker?!!

People like that should be banned for postboosting and killed for fun.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: SvenF on Apr 05, 2011, 07:35: AM
I just had to say that quoting someone and leaving the post "empty" is the stupidest and gayest shit ever. Hate when people do that. Don't you have your own opinion in your own words, motherfucker?!!

People like that should be banned for postboosting and killed for fun.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: tbc on Apr 05, 2011, 07:51: AM
I just had to say that quoting someone and leaving the post "empty" is the stupidest and gayest shit ever. Hate when people do that. Don't you have your own opinion in your own words, motherfucker?!!

People like that should be banned for postboosting and killed for fun.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: alexfs on Apr 05, 2011, 07:59: AM
I just had to say that quoting someone and leaving the post "empty" is the stupidest and gayest shit ever. Hate when people do that. Don't you have your own opinion in your own words, motherfucker?!!

People like that should be banned for postboosting and killed for fun.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: Royal Freakiness on Apr 05, 2011, 10:30: AM
I just had to say that quoting someone and leaving the post "empty" is the stupidest and gayest shit ever. Hate when people do that. Don't you have your own opinion in your own words, motherfucker?!!

People like that should be banned for postboosting and killed for fun.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: SimonFS on Apr 06, 2011, 02:28: AM
I just had to say that quoting someone and leaving the post "empty" is the stupidest and gayest shit ever. Hate when people do that. Don't you have your own opinion in your own words, motherfucker?!!

People like that should be banned for postboosting and killed for fun.
Title: Re: Final & SENSIBLE Explanation on matw, please read carefully
Post by: L_I_S on Apr 06, 2011, 02:39: AM
I think this thread has served it's purpose and has 7 posts in a row that contain zero new content. Thread locked.