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Title: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: tbc on Mar 07, 2011, 06:26: AM
Hi, i want this thread to be a short one. just want to know 3 rev tricks in order of invention ie by date.
I know Patw was first...
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: Budz on Mar 07, 2011, 06:34: AM
1. patw
2. htlatw
3.skatw
4.hmlatw
5.eatw
6.szatw
7.skora move
8.skmatw
9.pmatw
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: lumatt on Mar 07, 2011, 07:19: AM
Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: Budz on Mar 07, 2011, 07:32: AM
Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

hmlatw was done in skora aircombos 2 while eatw and szatw were done a month or so after
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: DanTheMan on Mar 07, 2011, 08:20: AM
Lumatt we are clearly talking about important normal 3 rev tricks not weird creative shit...

was htlatw really done before skatw? :O haha sick
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: tbc on Mar 07, 2011, 08:54: AM
Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.
its ok, i just wanted to know about the non 360 stuff.

1. patw
2. htlatw
3.skatw
4.hmlatw
5.eatw
6.szatw
7.skora move
8.skmatw
9.pmatw
thanks Budz i have my answers. thanks :)
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: ARS on Mar 07, 2011, 12:18: PM
Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

hmlatw was done in skora aircombos 2 while eatw and szatw were done a month or so after
You are wrong :) Watch this video, it was uploaded before Skora Air Combos 2.
2:08 - first eatw by Eldo ;)
 http://www.youtube.com/user/kacperrykis#p/u/19/pcg4RTvui14 (http://www.youtube.com/user/kacperrykis#p/u/19/pcg4RTvui14)

Lumatt we are clearly talking about important normal 3 rev tricks not weird creative shit...

was htlatw really done before skatw? :O haha sick
Yes, first htlatw was uploaded in February 2007 (Skora Clf Final) and only in July 2009 were uploaded in the same video skatw by Skala and skatw-combo by Skora (Freestyle Poland 2)
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: Blazej on Mar 08, 2011, 02:53: AM
Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

hmlatw was done in skora aircombos 2 while eatw and szatw were done a month or so after
You are wrong :) Watch this video, it was uploaded before Skora Air Combos 2.
2:08 - first eatw by Eldo ;)
 http://www.youtube.com/user/kacperrykis#p/u/19/pcg4RTvui14 (http://www.youtube.com/user/kacperrykis#p/u/19/pcg4RTvui14)

Lumatt we are clearly talking about important normal 3 rev tricks not weird creative shit...

was htlatw really done before skatw? :O haha sick
Yes, first htlatw was uploaded in February 2007 (Skora Clf Final) and only in July 2009 were uploaded in the same video skatw by Skala and skatw-combo by Skora (Freestyle Poland 2)
freestyle poland 2 came out in july 2007, still, htlatw was the first
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: ARS on Mar 08, 2011, 05:17: AM
Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

hmlatw was done in skora aircombos 2 while eatw and szatw were done a month or so after
You are wrong :) Watch this video, it was uploaded before Skora Air Combos 2.
2:08 - first eatw by Eldo ;)
 http://www.youtube.com/user/kacperrykis#p/u/19/pcg4RTvui14 (http://www.youtube.com/user/kacperrykis#p/u/19/pcg4RTvui14)

Lumatt we are clearly talking about important normal 3 rev tricks not weird creative shit...

was htlatw really done before skatw? :O haha sick
Yes, first htlatw was uploaded in February 2007 (Skora Clf Final) and only in July 2009 were uploaded in the same video skatw by Skala and skatw-combo by Skora (Freestyle Poland 2)
freestyle poland 2 came out in july 2007, still, htlatw was the first
Sorry, i mean july 2007, of cource :)
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: alexfs on Mar 08, 2011, 11:56: PM
Zegan atw 2010 i guess
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: Azuuun on Mar 11, 2011, 02:04: PM
Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

if so i would say that htlatw, skatw, eatw are 2.5 tricks... since the start with half atw...
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: L_I_S on Mar 11, 2011, 07:45: PM
Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

if so i would say that htlatw, skatw, eatw are 2.5 tricks... since the start with half atw...
Hatw isn't a 180 degree rev like a cross over move..
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: Azuuun on Mar 11, 2011, 09:15: PM
Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

if so i would say that htlatw, skatw, eatw are 2.5 tricks... since the start with half atw...
Hatw isn't a 180 degree rev like a cross over move..


when it comes to finnish it of with ahmatw i belive it is... cause you start the next movement before you finnish the hatw...i get your point when it comes to hatw-hatw... but i dont think you get mine ;)
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: L_I_S on Mar 11, 2011, 10:43: PM
Quote from: L_I_S link=topic=14685.msg217289#mAlphadiasg217289 date=1299923112
Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

if so i would say that htlatw, skatw, eatw are 2.5 tricks... since the start with half atw...
Hatw isn't a 180 degree rev like a cross over move..


when it comes to finnish it of with ahmatw i belive it is... cause you start the next movement before you finnish the hatw...i get your point when it comes to hatw-hatw... but i dont think you get mine ;)
You have not understood me. It's not 180 and it's not 360, it's somewhere in-between ;)
If you know how degrees work you'll agree with me.
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: Azuuun on Mar 17, 2011, 05:38: AM
Quote from: L_I_S link=topic=14685.msg217289#mAlphadiasg217289 date=1299923112
Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

if so i would say that htlatw, skatw, eatw are 2.5 tricks... since the start with half atw...
Hatw isn't a 180 degree rev like a cross over move..


when it comes to finnish it of with ahmatw i belive it is... cause you start the next movement before you finnish the hatw...i get your point when it comes to hatw-hatw... but i dont think you get mine ;)
You have not understood me. It's not 180 and it's not 360, it's somewhere in-between ;)
If you know how degrees work you'll agree with me.

I know its not the exact degrees, the point was according to your statement that skmatw was 3.5 revs...
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: Tupac on Mar 17, 2011, 09:02: AM
Quote from: L_I_S link=topic=14685.msg217289#mAlphadiasg217289 date=1299923112
Eatw (and szatw but i'm not sure) was invented before hmlatw. In addition, skmatw and pmatw are for me 3,5 revolutionary tricks. This topic, however is pointless, because if such a list is complete, huge load of tricks alsagami-like made by Mikołaj (which don't have names) should be added.

if so i would say that htlatw, skatw, eatw are 2.5 tricks... since the start with half atw...
Hatw isn't a 180 degree rev like a cross over move..


when it comes to finnish it of with ahmatw i belive it is... cause you start the next movement before you finnish the hatw...i get your point when it comes to hatw-hatw... but i dont think you get mine ;)
You have not understood me. It's not 180 and it's not 360, it's somewhere in-between ;)
If you know how degrees work you'll agree with me.

I know its not the exact degrees, the point was according to your statement that skmatw was 3.5 revs...
Lis never said it was 3.5, lumatt did, and I don't think it matters, dumb thing to debate...
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: Max on Mar 17, 2011, 10:10: AM
skatw and eatw arent hatw ahmatw nt. they are atw ahmatw nt because you finsih the trick with the same foot you started. hatw is starting with one foot and finishing with the other foot.
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: L_I_S on Mar 17, 2011, 01:15: PM
For fucks sake...Hatw is no where near 180 degrees. If you don't know what 180 degrees is, it's half a circle. So if that was a freestyle rev, the rev would end at the top of the ball and completely stop going around, everything more than that is much >180 degrees. If you fail to see that you need to re-learn math :great:
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: tbc on Mar 17, 2011, 03:18: PM
inside hatw has more revolution than outside hatw. so does that make eatw more harder than skatw? or do they depend on how good you are with the first touch on inside and outside?
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: Azuuun on Mar 18, 2011, 09:34: AM
For fucks sake...Hatw is no where near 180 degrees. If you don't know what 180 degrees is, it's half a circle. So if that was a freestyle rev, the rev would end at the top of the ball and completely stop going around, everything more than that is much >180 degrees. If you fail to see that you need to re-learn math :great:

my point were just to say that skatw and eldo have less revs then patw...

Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: ARS on Mar 18, 2011, 10:53: PM
For fucks sake...Hatw is no where near 180 degrees. If you don't know what 180 degrees is, it's half a circle. So if that was a freestyle rev, the rev would end at the top of the ball and completely stop going around, everything more than that is much >180 degrees. If you fail to see that you need to re-learn math :great:

my point were just to say that skatw and eldo have less revs then patw...


I agree that when you do skatw or eatw you can do, for example, 1st and 2nd revs almost at the same time, because you do it with different legs, and when you do patw - you cant start the next rev untill you didnt finish the previous one. BUT, each rev of skatw or eatw takes much more time to do, because all patw`s revs go just around the ball, but skatw`s and eatw`s revs - no! because firstly you need to lift your leg from the ground, then you do a rev, and then you need to put your leg back on the ground - so at all you do much more motions while skatw/eatw than while patw. i hope you understand :)
Title: Re: 3 rev in order of invention.
Post by: Max on Mar 19, 2011, 04:01: AM
also the revs in skatw and eatw are clean revs, patw revs are smaller and bendy.