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Title: Neglected Basics
Post by: Tupac on Mar 06, 2011, 06:58: AM
Neglected Basics. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozQMMnAcuv8#ws)

Yo, I completely skipped learning basic atw-atw-htw/htw-atw/etc. type of stuff and I decided to start over. I don't want to be one of those hardcore fags that can do eatw but not a 10 trick combo. A lot of people skip basic shit (newcomers) and a lot of pro fsers say you need to build on everything.
If you made my mistake, i recommend starting over.
I try everything I land strong and weak foot. I am right footed.
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: alexfs on Mar 06, 2011, 07:03: AM
you are heading in the right direction Sam
keep practicing - i like your style
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: Patrick Edwards on Mar 06, 2011, 07:29: AM
Good decision in training techniques but I don't see the point in uploading this
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: stefanfreestylez on Mar 06, 2011, 09:16: AM
ya uploading this is pointless  :rolleyes: and r u wearing glasses in some clips?  :017:
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: jabarinho on Mar 06, 2011, 09:46: AM
u should also do crossovers and rev cross since ur one of those crazy weird people who can do batw and struggle with aatw and stuff like that :rolleyes:.....nice uppers
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: Tupac on Mar 06, 2011, 10:11: AM
ya uploading this is pointless  :rolleyes: and r u wearing glasses in some clips?  :017:
I wanted to show where my level is actually at, I've always worn glasses most of the time you won't see them cause of the camera :p
u should also do crossovers and rev cross since ur one of those crazy weird people who can do batw and struggle with aatw and stuff like that :rolleyes:.....nice uppers
I can get aatw consistent now, Brian lockyer helped me with them. Crossovers are for pussies
 
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: Kitti on Mar 06, 2011, 10:17: AM

I can get aatw consistent now, Brian lockyer helped me with them. Crossovers are for pussies
 
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Poor Petike... .)
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: shobhitdatta280592 on Mar 08, 2011, 01:16: AM
Crossovers are for pussies
 
Poor Petike... .)
:shocked:
Poor michryc too :P
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: anhkhoashevakt on Mar 08, 2011, 07:48: AM

I can get aatw consistent now, Brian lockyer helped me with them. Crossovers are for pussies
 

I hope you're not serious when saying that.
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: Tupac on Mar 08, 2011, 08:01: AM

I can get aatw consistent now, Brian lockyer helped me with them. Crossovers are for pussies
 

I hope you're not serious when saying that.
Nah not really, there are some people that can make them look good, but I think it's a save trick. I hate when people do a long combo and then in the middle of it there's a random cross over, unless it's followed by a (a)htatw or (a)hmatw nt, I don't like it, too me, it almost always represents loss of control...
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: anhkhoashevakt on Mar 08, 2011, 08:09: AM

I can get aatw consistent now, Brian lockyer helped me with them. Crossovers are for pussies
 

I hope you're not serious when saying that.
Nah not really, there are some people that can make them look good, but I think it's a save trick. I hate when people do a long combo and then in the middle of it there's a random cross over, unless it's followed by a (a)htatw or (a)hmatw nt, I don't like it, too me, it almost always represents loss of control...

So what if it is a saving trick? Skora used it to save his combos sometimes (in competitions), so does Palle and many others... Even if it's a saving trick, the ones using them can't be in the least classified as being "pussies".
When you introduce the concept of "crossovers being for wimps", it creates restrictions, which can't be good at all for a sport like FREEstyle, where it calls for a lot of freedom. A lot of restrictions like that kills not only the ones who employs it (those who are stubborn and won't use crossover to save their combos will surely drop the ball and so sh!tty lps.) but the concept of freestyle as well.
Let people do whatever they choose to do.   
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: Tupac on Mar 08, 2011, 08:20: AM

I can get aatw consistent now, Brian lockyer helped me with them. Crossovers are for pussies
 

I hope you're not serious when saying that.
Nah not really, there are some people that can make them look good, but I think it's a save trick. I hate when people do a long combo and then in the middle of it there's a random cross over, unless it's followed by a (a)htatw or (a)hmatw nt, I don't like it, too me, it almost always represents loss of control...

So what if it is a saving trick? Skora used it to save his combos sometimes (in competitions), so does Palle and many others... Even if it's a saving trick, the ones using them can't be in the least classified as being "pussies".
When you introduce the concept of "crossovers being for wimps", it creates restrictions, which can't be good at all for a sport like FREEstyle, where it calls for a lot of freedom. A lot of restrictions like that kills not only the ones who employs it (those who are stubborn and won't use crossover to save their combos will surely drop the ball and so sh!tty lps.) but the concept of freestyle as well.
Let people do whatever they choose to do.   
I'm not saying pro's don't do it, petike/michryc/skora/oLi/palle/etc. I just think it looks bad in the middle of a combo and therefor I refuse to train them. I will train co-matw nt and what not, but not show it on camera. (when I get there.)
I do the ducking atm-crossover but most people don't even duck right so it looks bad.
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: anhkhoashevakt on Mar 08, 2011, 08:28: AM

I can get aatw consistent now, Brian lockyer helped me with them. Crossovers are for pussies
 

I hope you're not serious when saying that.
Nah not really, there are some people that can make them look good, but I think it's a save trick. I hate when people do a long combo and then in the middle of it there's a random cross over, unless it's followed by a (a)htatw or (a)hmatw nt, I don't like it, too me, it almost always represents loss of control...

So what if it is a saving trick? Skora used it to save his combos sometimes (in competitions), so does Palle and many others... Even if it's a saving trick, the ones using them can't be in the least classified as being "pussies".
When you introduce the concept of "crossovers being for wimps", it creates restrictions, which can't be good at all for a sport like FREEstyle, where it calls for a lot of freedom. A lot of restrictions like that kills not only the ones who employs it (those who are stubborn and won't use crossover to save their combos will surely drop the ball and so sh!tty lps.) but the concept of freestyle as well.
Let people do whatever they choose to do.   
I'm not saying pro's don't do it, petike/michryc/skora/oLi/palle/etc. I just think it looks bad in the middle of a combo and therefor I refuse to train them. I will train co-matw nt and what not, but not show it on camera. (when I get there.)
I do the ducking atm-crossover but most people don't even duck right so it looks bad.

So, according to the 2 bold lines I highlighted above, you're saying that pros (petike/michryc/Palle/Skora...) are pussies?
Because they do crossovers, and you're definitely saying: "Crossovers are for pussies" and so it must mean something like: "Pros are pussies"? Forgive me if I interpret it wrongly but that's how I see it according to what you wrote.
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: Tupac on Mar 08, 2011, 08:38: AM

I can get aatw consistent now, Brian lockyer helped me with them. Crossovers are for pussies
 

I hope you're not serious when saying that.
Nah not really, there are some people that can make them look good, but I think it's a save trick. I hate when people do a long combo and then in the middle of it there's a random cross over, unless it's followed by a (a)htatw or (a)hmatw nt, I don't like it, too me, it almost always represents loss of control...

So what if it is a saving trick? Skora used it to save his combos sometimes (in competitions), so does Palle and many others... Even if it's a saving trick, the ones using them can't be in the least classified as being "pussies".
When you introduce the concept of "crossovers being for wimps", it creates restrictions, which can't be good at all for a sport like FREEstyle, where it calls for a lot of freedom. A lot of restrictions like that kills not only the ones who employs it (those who are stubborn and won't use crossover to save their combos will surely drop the ball and so sh!tty lps.) but the concept of freestyle as well.
Let people do whatever they choose to do.   
I'm not saying pro's don't do it, petike/michryc/skora/oLi/palle/etc. I just think it looks bad in the middle of a combo and therefor I refuse to train them. I will train co-matw nt and what not, but not show it on camera. (when I get there.)
I do the ducking atm-crossover but most people don't even duck right so it looks bad.

So, according to the 2 bold lines I highlighted above, you're saying that pros (petike/michryc/Palle/Skora...) are pussies?
Because they do crossovers, and you're definitely saying: "Crossovers are for pussies" and so it must mean something like: "Pros are pussies"? Forgive me if I interpret it wrongly but that's how I see it according to what you wrote.

You interpreted it wrongly. I used bad word choice though :p I think crossovers are a save trick and look bad in a normal video. LP's are different since it's for a crowd of people that usually know 0 about freestyle. But if it's a competition I think it looks bad, kinda like arm rolls to save uppers.
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: Max on Mar 08, 2011, 08:48: AM
basically sam is just explaining that there is no need for learning combos like atw cross atw cross and so on because later on you will connect combos with hatw htw and such tricks. look at leahs tutorial he also leaves crossover out and it is by far the best tutorial if you want to become good in lower combos as you can see by almost every russian. and yeah crossovers that were put randomly into combos just to save it look shit.
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: alexfs on Mar 08, 2011, 08:58: AM
@max +1
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: anhkhoashevakt on Mar 08, 2011, 10:35: AM
basically sam is just explaining that there is no need for learning combos like atw cross atw cross and so on because later on you will connect combos with hatw htw and such tricks. look at leahs tutorial he also leaves crossover out and it is by far the best tutorial if you want to become good in lower combos as you can see by almost every russian. and yeah crossovers that were put randomly into combos just to save it look shit.

Touche! In training, if you can do combos without crossovers that will be nice, and a way to up your level because it is surely harder than combos with crossovers. However, I still think there's no reason to dismiss the use of crossovers in LPs or even competitions. That introduces restrictions which can only make the performance worse. But I'm not going to tell you guys what to do; you guys just do what you like. After all, isn't this what freestyle is all about here: doing it your own way?   
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: L_I_S on Mar 08, 2011, 12:32: PM

I can get aatw consistent now, Brian lockyer helped me with them. Crossovers are for pussies
 

I hope you're not serious when saying that.
Nah not really, there are some people that can make them look good, but I think it's a save trick. I hate when people do a long combo and then in the middle of it there's a random cross over, unless it's followed by a (a)htatw or (a)hmatw nt, I don't like it, too me, it almost always represents loss of control...

So what if it is a saving trick? Skora used it to save his combos sometimes (in competitions), so does Palle and many others... Even if it's a saving trick, the ones using them can't be in the least classified as being "pussies".
When you introduce the concept of "crossovers being for wimps", it creates restrictions, which can't be good at all for a sport like FREEstyle, where it calls for a lot of freedom. A lot of restrictions like that kills not only the ones who employs it (those who are stubborn and won't use crossover to save their combos will surely drop the ball and so sh!tty lps.) but the concept of freestyle as well.
Let people do whatever they choose to do.   
It's just his opinion. It's like not liking a certain move in freestyle and never trying to learn it because it's not fun or whatever. It may restrict you, but like you said FREEstyle.
Oh if you can save the ball with a cross over then surely you can save the ball with a juggle.
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: anhkhoashevakt on Mar 08, 2011, 12:59: PM

It's just his opinion. It's like not liking a certain move in freestyle and never trying to learn it because it's not fun or whatever. It may restrict you, but like you said FREEstyle.
Oh if you can save the ball with a cross over then surely you can save the ball with a juggle.

Cool. If you put it that way then I agree. I just misinterpreted what he said before:"Crossovers are for pussies" that's all.
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: Ethan on Mar 08, 2011, 06:32: PM
khoa's just jealous cos he can't do a combo without crossovers  :PDT_Armataz_01_37:


khoa do u seriously not understand what trolling is?
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: Tupac on Mar 09, 2011, 11:08: AM
Someone should make a topic on crossovers...
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: DanTheMan on Mar 09, 2011, 11:21: AM
good to see u training basics...
tip #1 - wear shorts when training lower combos.

whenever people NEVER wear shorts ever, for some reason, i just dont trust them. what are they hiding?

Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: anhkhoashevakt on Mar 09, 2011, 12:36: PM
khoa's just jealous cos he can't do a combo without crossovers  :PDT_Armataz_01_37:


khoa do u seriously not understand what trolling is?

The way he wrote that doesn't seem like it, but may be I was wrong.
And yeah I'm sh!t at lowers haha... but it just that I think cos are not as bad as they spoke of by people. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: Royal Freakiness on Mar 09, 2011, 03:36: PM
good to see u training basics...
tip #1 - wear shorts when training lower combos.

whenever people NEVER wear shorts ever, for some reason, i just dont trust them. what are they hiding?


a 3rd leg
Title: Re: Neglected Basics
Post by: Tupac on Mar 09, 2011, 10:40: PM
good to see u training basics...
tip #1 - wear shorts when training lower combos.

whenever people NEVER wear shorts ever, for some reason, i just dont trust them. what are they hiding?


a 3rd leg
Some might call it's penis.... ;) jk I have bleach white legs, I don't wanna blind you guys.