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Title: Honestly speaking
Post by: lala10biondo on Jan 18, 2011, 06:43: AM
Hey!!
Can you guys honestly please tell us what you think about female freestyle and give us much tips for us to improve and get everytime closer to a decent level...
just trying to get our level higher.!
i know i've been a big pain but we don't care to be considered just cause girls (big bs)  but want to get better!!...

xxx
Big love!:88:
Thanks
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: Ethan on Jan 18, 2011, 07:10: AM
you want honest....


I saw you posted on a video a few months ago that 'the video was great but it missed one thing..girls'. And i believe azun responded with an argument i entirely agree with. Why should you girls get more respect for achieving quite mediocre combos just because you are girls?

I think Indi and Kitti have proven that there is no reason girls can't accomplish very promising improvements...altatw, and tatw amatw nt combos. Therefore I believe if you train just as hard and productively as a fast improving male freestyler I don't see why the results cant be the same! if you don't agree, care to explain why? I am curious as to whether there is any reason a girl cant be as good, of course there is a strength element but the more you train the stronger you become so surely you will gain the muscles required?

It seems like you have changed your mentality now though :)
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: lala10biondo on Jan 18, 2011, 07:24: AM
Yes def i totaly agree... i don't want for us girls to be recong or get more credits cause we are just girls....never wanted it actually get me mad... :D :D...
obviously there will be a difference as you siad...
just want to raise the overall level for us girls.! ;)
thanks really appreciate ur straight fowardness.!
;)
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: Ricke on Jan 18, 2011, 07:42: AM
I don't know what other tips to give other than train longer and harder since that's what makes improvement.

Males seem to be able to reach their full strength potential easier than women, wich is a big issue and the reason for males generally being better at sports. Then again males also show more interests in sports.
Womens hips are wider than males, that could make a difference in freestyle I suppose..

But I don't see why females wouldn't be able to reach the level many guys are at today. You'll get there but it seems to be at a slower pace like in many physical sports for women unfortunatly.

Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: Miran Pirner on Jan 18, 2011, 08:33: AM
More practice and less time wasting activities.  :Woot_Emoticon:
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: Cogliono Grande on Jan 18, 2011, 08:39: AM
you want honest....


I saw you posted on a video a few months ago that 'the video was great but it missed one thing..girls'. And i believe azun responded with an argument i entirely agree with. Why should you girls get more respect for achieving quite mediocre combos just because you are girls?

I think Indi and Kitti have proven that there is no reason girls can't accomplish very promising improvements...altatw, and tatw amatw nt combos. Therefore I believe if you train just as hard and productively as a fast improving male freestyler I don't see why the results cant be the same! if you don't agree, care to explain why? I am curious as to whether there is any reason a girl cant be as good, of course there is a strength element but the more you train the stronger you become so surely you will gain the muscles required?

It seems like you have changed your mentality now though :)
I totally agree. However, men have different muscles than girls, which is probably why men are better suited for sports than women. It is nevertheless no reason to give girls extra credits because they have tits and pussy.
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: stefanfreestylez on Jan 18, 2011, 08:49: AM
train uppers tits would help a lot in chest stall XD  :043:
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: tbc on Jan 18, 2011, 09:09: AM
maybe ask Dr. G?
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: alexfs on Jan 18, 2011, 09:41: AM
honestly
i do not like watching girls breaking combos
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: ukiFS on Jan 18, 2011, 09:50: AM
honestly
i do not like watching girls breaking combos

i'll rather watch girls breaking combos than boys breaking them  :grin:
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: Miran Pirner on Jan 18, 2011, 10:47: AM
honestly
i do not like watching girls breaking combos

How about them doing break combos?  :celebrate:
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: alexfs on Jan 18, 2011, 11:38: AM
honestly
i do not like watching girls breaking combos

i'll rather watch girls breaking combos than boys breaking them  :grin:
haha  :grin:
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: L_I_S on Jan 18, 2011, 12:40: PM
I saw you posted on a video a few months ago that 'the video was great but it missed one thing..girls'. And i believe azun responded with an argument i entirely agree with. Why should you girls get more respect for achieving quite mediocre combos just because you are girls?
It's the same reason the EPL, NBA, etc are never mixed genders. Males have better body types to suit these sort of things. Of course both genders can do any thing they like/want but when it comes to the physical aspects, it's clear that males have the advantage. Hence why it would be unfair to put WNBA players in the NBA and why a mediocre combo would be a good achievement for females.

But one thing, the female average level is WAYYY lower than it could be due to them doing LPs and not 'needing' to push themselves. Like Billy Wingrove.

To answer the OP question, obviously it's more/smarter training. For example; When warming up, make sure you have your warm up goals. For me it's 10 htws before I move onto 10 hatws before I move onto 16 move combo etc. This will keep your average higher and when you want to try harder, you'll always do better than your average meaning you'll improve indeffinate.
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: ningja on Jan 18, 2011, 11:11: PM
well said mr L_I_S   :sign0098:
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: lala10biondo on Jan 18, 2011, 11:25: PM
Def appreciate yal putting male and female at a same level  , no special treetsments.
Male do have a bit of an advantage on the physical side but still a girl can reach certain levels...so yeah thanks all!


@L_I_s: belive it or not only 1 girls lives of freestyle doing gigs...for the rest random things go on...
but yeah we should get down to more practice ;) unfortunately only few are doing so...including me and i'm the first to blame myself reason why i started the topic because want to change this

 :c017: :88:
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: L_I_S on Jan 19, 2011, 01:23: AM
@L_I_s: belive it or not only 1 girls lives of freestyle doing gigs...for the rest random things go on...
but yeah we should get down to more practice ;) unfortunately only few are doing so...including me and i'm the first to blame myself reason why i started the topic because want to change this

 :c017: :88:
No, no, no. I meant like when a guy does a gig, his 3 atws isn't his technical part of the show, where as for female performers, it is there technical part of the show.
(My theory) Even though females can do much better, they don't because they get the same result from freestylers(main motivation for most). A male posts a video of 3 nt combos, 15+ move combos etc will get little recognition but when a female posts very low level stuff(for female standard), they still get the recognition. It's actually male freestylers keeping the level of female freestylers below what they can achieve by encouraging little improvement.

Off topic:All people are equal in my opinion. I'm not prejudice! :039:
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: DanTheMan on Jan 19, 2011, 06:55: AM
yeh girls seem to break combos a lot more... its not good.. also i think they dont have as much a freestyle knowledge as most guys.. ie. knowing all freestylers, trick names, history and culture and i think that makes a difference... but Indi can do beck ltatw and i think patw so if u guys train hard enough u will make it :D
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: lala10biondo on Jan 19, 2011, 08:13: AM
:D thanks all..
@L_I_S i take back what i said then about LPs!
@ DTM: true we need to improve our knowledge... lets say that for this at least in my case i haven't had the possibility to dedicate to it but slowly girls are knowing more....

unfortunately only a few now really understand what freestyle is and this is why trying to make things change for what female concernes...

there will always be a difference males body are made for strength activities wich does influence the capabilities of a female as we don't have the same amount of strength... tecnically yes we can reach the same tecnical skill but the power will be a difference.

but i am glad there are no steryotpes..and that you support us!
just keep helping our motivation in fair way according to what you say so everytime more girls can understand freestyle and get the right thinking to reach results.!
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: Max on Jan 20, 2011, 02:59: AM
how many ''good'' female freestylers are there ??
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: Liicht on Jan 20, 2011, 08:25: AM
Just by making this topic you obviously express your dedication towards freestyle which is one big step itself.
Good job! (woohoo recognition!  :Woot_Emoticon:)
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: Patrick Edwards on Jan 20, 2011, 05:41: PM
Yeah girls break combos lot and upper/sits style isn't very good either but to break both of these habits you need practice and more interaction on here to understand freestyle.
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: SvenF on Jan 20, 2011, 09:00: PM
Yeah girls break combos lot and upper/sits style isn't very good either but to break both of these habits you need practice and more interaction on here to understand freestyle.

Well, I wouldn't say girls don't understand freestyle..
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: lala10biondo on Jan 20, 2011, 10:31: PM
 :c017:
Just by making this topic you obviously express your dedication towards freestyle which is one big step itself.
Good job! (woohoo recognition!  :Woot_Emoticon:)

This is helping alot and not only me but also other girls reading this! so thanks for the support!!!
:88:
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: luki on Jan 21, 2011, 09:01: AM
I don't know why, but honestly - I don't find women doing the same tricks as men do. I mean - women should do tricks hmm... related with an art, beauty(don't ask if tatw amatw isn't a beauty too). Perhaps it sounds stupid, but really - I'd rather women did sth like this. Why? If for example men did artistic choreography - it would like kinda gay. If women did this - it would look beautiful.  You should create something new, not to tend to men's way.
Sorry for english
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: Gustav on Jan 21, 2011, 12:55: PM


practise hard and long, try to not compare yourself to male freestylers too much.. set up own goals and aim high for them, I think you will do great ! :)

Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: Max on Jan 22, 2011, 10:25: PM
I don't know why, but honestly - I don't find women doing the same tricks as men do. I mean - women should do tricks hmm... related with an art, beauty(don't ask if tatw amatw isn't a beauty too). Perhaps it sounds stupid, but really - I'd rather women did sth like this. Why? If for example men did artistic choreography - it would like kinda gay. If women did this - it would look beautiful.  You should create something new, not to tend to men's way.
Sorry for english
They wouldnt create anything new, Miriam from the ''Ballartisten'' allready does this. but yeah you are right this style fits women way better than the Style men are practising. But in the end everybody can do what he wants.
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: lala10biondo on Jan 23, 2011, 12:14: AM
I don't know why, but honestly - I don't find women doing the same tricks as men do. I mean - women should do tricks hmm... related with an art, beauty(don't ask if tatw amatw isn't a beauty too). Perhaps it sounds stupid, but really - I'd rather women did sth like this. Why? If for example men did artistic choreography - it would like kinda gay. If women did this - it would look beautiful.  You should create something new, not to tend to men's way.
Sorry for english
They wouldnt create anything new, Miriam from the ''Ballartisten'' allready does this. but yeah you are right this style fits women way better than the Style men are practising. But in the end everybody can do what he wants.

Def understand what you mean but  then it would not be freestyle...it would be more like rhythmic gymnastics
 RG Rhythmic Gymnastics Alina Kabaeva Ball 2001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7xbyA7lgZs&feature=fvst#)
:88:
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: luki on Jan 23, 2011, 03:47: AM
I don't know why, but honestly - I don't find women doing the same tricks as men do. I mean - women should do tricks hmm... related with an art, beauty(don't ask if tatw amatw isn't a beauty too). Perhaps it sounds stupid, but really - I'd rather women did sth like this. Why? If for example men did artistic choreography - it would like kinda gay. If women did this - it would look beautiful.  You should create something new, not to tend to men's way.
Sorry for english
They wouldnt create anything new, Miriam from the ''Ballartisten'' allready does this. but yeah you are right this style fits women way better than the Style men are practising. But in the end everybody can do what he wants.

Def understand what you mean but  then it would not be freestyle...it would be more like rhythmic gymnastics
 RG Rhythmic Gymnastics Alina Kabaeva Ball 2001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7xbyA7lgZs&feature=fvst#)
:88:
Depends on how you look at it. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of combinations which can make freestyle beautiful and you don't have to "change sport".
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: lala10biondo on Jan 23, 2011, 08:00: AM
I don't know why, but honestly - I don't find women doing the same tricks as men do. I mean - women should do tricks hmm... related with an art, beauty(don't ask if tatw amatw isn't a beauty too). Perhaps it sounds stupid, but really - I'd rather women did sth like this. Why? If for example men did artistic choreography - it would like kinda gay. If women did this - it would look beautiful.  You should create something new, not to tend to men's way.
Sorry for english
They wouldnt create anything new, Miriam from the ''Ballartisten'' allready does this. but yeah you are right this style fits women way better than the Style men are practising. But in the end everybody can do what he wants.

Def understand what you mean but  then it would not be freestyle...it would be more like rhythmic gymnastics
 RG Rhythmic Gymnastics Alina Kabaeva Ball 2001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7xbyA7lgZs&feature=fvst#)
:88:
Depends on how you look at it. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of combinations which can make freestyle beautiful and you don't have to "change sport".
will def take under serious consideration  ur suggestion thanks
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: s�an on Jan 26, 2011, 01:02: PM
I am agree with luki :
Man and girl are different seems the start so why they should be identic after?
Girl have not same power but different so try to get this different power for being different and get what you want : the respect from the community...

WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT THAT'S MAKE NOBODY BADEST THAN OTHER : JUST DIFFERENT.
Think on it....
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: alexfs on Jan 27, 2011, 08:35: AM
I am agree with luki :
Man and girl are different seems the start so why they should be identic after?
Girl have not same power but different so try to get this different power for being different and get what you want : the respect from the community...

WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT THAT'S MAKE NOBODY BADEST THAN OTHER : JUST DIFFERENT.
Think on it....
:wtf: if you live in Australia - do you use English there by any chance? no hating
Title: Re: Honestly speaking
Post by: alexfs on Jan 27, 2011, 04:40: PM
I am agree with luki :
Man and girl are different seems the start so why they should be identic after?
Girl have not same power but different so try to get this different power for being different and get what you want : the respect from the community...

WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT THAT'S MAKE NOBODY BADEST THAN OTHER : JUST DIFFERENT.
Think on it....
:wtf: if you live in Australia - do you use English there by any chance? no hating
Australians speak English lol
the grammar was so great, it made me wonder what language they speak there