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Title: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Max on Dec 07, 2010, 07:52: AM
no speculations please.
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: DanTheMan on Dec 07, 2010, 08:02: AM
coz hes bored, and i dont blame him, once u get to his level theres nothing left to do in lowers
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Max on Dec 07, 2010, 08:14: AM
coz hes bored, and i dont blame him, once u get to his level theres nothing left to do in lowers

is this the real reason? there is loads to do in lowers. he could go for patw patw or even crazier combos. you can ALWAYS improve.
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: tbc on Dec 07, 2010, 09:31: AM
a few possibilties.
1. he improved so fast. he actually didnt enjoy the process.
2. for anna
3. like dantheman said.
4. education/work.
5.arguably the best in lowers in the world. so he is lost with direction or what to do now. maybe he will wait for others to improve so he cant be better than them.
6. idk why
7. ask him
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Royal Freakiness on Dec 07, 2010, 10:59: AM
anyone who think they've reached a level where they feel there is nothing left to do in lowers must be a tad bit cocky...
There are a million more things to do in lowers. Skora's level is still higher than MP because of the variations he can do.
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: PaTTo on Dec 07, 2010, 06:23: PM
ask ARS ...
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Max on Dec 07, 2010, 07:16: PM
ask ARS ...

yes i hope he will answer to this topic
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Palgi on Dec 08, 2010, 01:23: AM
from the video:

"Thank you all. I can not train today because there's no time for it: (So have to leave, knowing that there will be no such progress .. Perhaps that may some day I can start training again, but almost no likelihood of: (I am very happy that their video, the achievements, I encourage you, motivate to training. Thanks for your support, good luck to all in freestyle, aspire to it, as I tried. I hope that my videos have given you this opportunity and I hope someday I can start train ..:)"
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: G-Kid on Dec 08, 2010, 01:29: AM
He found out tupac was dead.
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Blazej on Dec 08, 2010, 02:39: AM
anyone who think they've reached a level where they feel there is nothing left to do in lowers must be a tad bit cocky...
why? maybe his goal was to just become one of the best in lowers? why does he have to train more and more if he reached what he wanted to reach?
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Batr on Dec 08, 2010, 04:14: AM
He found out tupac was dead.

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Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: 10RonaldoC on Dec 08, 2010, 07:35: AM
He found out tupac was dead.

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Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: DanTheMan on Dec 08, 2010, 10:31: AM
anyone who think they've reached a level where they feel there is nothing left to do in lowers must be a tad bit cocky...
There are a million more things to do in lowers. Skora's level is still higher than MP because of the variations he can do.

sorry man no offence at all, but your lowers arent of a high enough level to really understand it..
even me who sucks at lowers (hardest combo i ever did was 4 amatw or skora nt) got bored easily at this stage...
imagine a guy at MPs level.. it just gets SO BORING.... if he had interest in other types of freestyle, diff styles, he could work on them
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: brendan.utd on Dec 08, 2010, 12:55: PM
i dont understand how anyone can think that when uve reached the stage where u r better than everyone in the world at freestyle, and can do the longest/most difficult combos, that there is no point in continuing to freestyle!  :wtf:

this makes no sense, if you really love freestyle you wouldnt care about just dominating the sport, you do it because its ur passion
i dont think MP quit because he is BORED of being the best it must be some other reason...
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: anhkhoashevakt on Dec 08, 2010, 01:15: PM
i dont understand how anyone can think that when uve reached the stage where u r better than everyone in the world at freestyle, and can do the longest/most difficult combos, that there is no point in continuing to freestyle!  :wtf:

this makes no sense, if you really love freestyle you wouldnt care about just dominating the sport, you do it because its ur passion
i dont think MP quit because he is BORED of being the best it must be some other reason...

Pardon me for saying this, and I may think that I'm speculating a bit here, but do you think anyone who really likes freestyle can do it for like 7 hours a day like he does?
OK, I know that question can seem retarded, but think about it. When you're obsessed with something, you usually have fun while doing it, sometimes you forget when to stop right? But the thing is, most times you don't. Speaking from my own experience, there was a time when I was really into freestyle, but even at that time, I don't usually practice for more than about 2 hours and a half on most days. It helps to keep your interest level up when you do little of it one day and then returning to it the day later.

Now, back to MP's case. He got so good after only 2 years or so, because we all know he practices like 50 hrs a week. That's an average more than 7 hours each day, and he kept up doing that for like 2 years! 2 years! Can you guys imagine how long that'd be? It's totally possible that by the time he reached year two, he was already bored by freestyle. And when he reached this level when he does like SKATW - several AMATWs all no touch (which is like among the highest levels of lowers), what can he think otherwise?

Now, you may ask me: OK, if that's the case then why didn't he quit a long time ago? And I think i have an answer to that as well: pride. MP, along with many Russian freestylers (judging on what they usually say on the forum and on people's videos) tend to have a mentality that they always have to try their best to become the bests in the world at everything. That's why they found the motivation to do freestyle for like 7 hours a day for 2 years. That's a good mentality as well, especially when Russian's freestyle scene is, IMO, rather new. Believe me we Vietnamese went through the same thing when we first started knowing freestyle. That can be a good thing, because it advances the level of freestyle quickly in the respected country, but it also comes with a price: after the time which you try to be the best and succeeded (like MP), you loose your purpose, and also motivation. That was what happened with MP. In several words, he is subdued by 2 things: boredom and the lack of motivation.      

Although, just keep in mind that all I'm saying here comes all from my speculation, which may not be true! In any cases, MP's leaving freestyle is a great loss to the freestyle scene of the world. We all deeply regret this decision by him, but I believe that he chose it for a reason. We'll all be waiting if there's a day when he can come back into freestyle.

Peace, take care of yourself, MP ;).
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: djalmafreestyler on Dec 08, 2010, 01:24: PM
i dont understand how anyone can think that when uve reached the stage where u r better than everyone in the world at freestyle, and can do the longest/most difficult combos, that there is no point in continuing to freestyle!  :wtf:

this makes no sense, if you really love freestyle you wouldnt care about just dominating the sport, you do it because its ur passion
i dont think MP quit because he is BORED of being the best it must be some other reason...

For me you are completely correct!
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Tom on Dec 08, 2010, 06:04: PM
Well, this just prove how complete different we all see at Football Freestyle. For some people, they practice just to break records and be the "best", for other, including me, i do it in the name of art. Coming up with new ideas is like an orgasm for me, and for others, thats just so boring.

So this is a really good prove of how different we all see Freestyle. And i also understand it can be hard for some sort of freestyler to accept other styles. But i respect all of it, but if you quit freestyle just because you are getting good at something, then you are no real freestyler for me.
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Szymo on Dec 09, 2010, 10:08: PM
You will never master everything in freestyle. There are a lot of combinations, transitions, tricks. You can't learn everything in any style, it's too much. So I don't understand why he want to quit. There are many of things in front of him. If he's bored, he could improve upper and sits and become true monster if he'd get progress as fast as he used to get.  :017:
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: JamieNeit on Dec 10, 2010, 02:14: AM
it makes no sense to quit when your that good, he can always get better and improve...like whats the point in training 50 hours a week for 2 eyars then just letting it all go...
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Retty on Dec 10, 2010, 02:39: AM
it makes no sense to quit when your that good, he can always get better and improve...like whats the point in training 50 hours a week for 2 eyars then just letting it all go...

You have to let it all go at some point, better sooner than later.
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Max on Dec 10, 2010, 02:42: AM
if we take the comment from his video it is quite clear why he wants to quit. for him improvement is the most important thing in freestyle, so when he has not enough time to continue his insane improvement, it makes no sense for him to continue.

but i highly doubt he will leave freestyle.
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Tobi on Dec 10, 2010, 04:00: AM
anyone who think they've reached a level where they feel there is nothing left to do in lowers must be a tad bit cocky...
There are a million more things to do in lowers. Skora's level is still higher than MP because of the variations he can do.

sorry man no offence at all, but your lowers arent of a high enough level to really understand it..
even me who sucks at lowers (hardest combo i ever did was 4 amatw or skora nt) got bored easily at this stage...
imagine a guy at MPs level.. it just gets SO BORING.... if he had interest in other types of freestyle, diff styles, he could work on them
i see what you are talking about, it is soooo boring for me too, even though i'm not one of the best at all.
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Patrick Edwards on Dec 10, 2010, 07:43: AM
I've always imagined being at a higher level would be way better for motivation because you can do pretty much ANYTHING and you can just let your creativity go wild and not have your ability stand in the way of that but obviously I was wrong
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Clyde on Dec 10, 2010, 07:45: AM
I know why... Rusian guys currently have many more interesting extreme sports than freestyle football (Skoczysz? Crazy the Extreme in Russia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5wdF0WdoNk&feature=player_embedded#))

...no offence, in Poland we have also :P 0.45 (Leszek hardkor xl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NmgYf4214Y#))
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: alexfs on Dec 11, 2010, 02:01: AM
 :grin: @Clyde lol
the russian one is insane - they can easily fall off the roof - russians are nuts
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: tbc on Dec 11, 2010, 04:38: AM
this is what azun said..
Anders Azun Solum
A true freestyle master have the power to keep pushing himself even when he have no motiation and no progress!

Anders Azun Solum hehe, its not about that :) its about players quitting just because they have some hard time with motivation/progress/injuries.... greatness is on the edge of destruction ;)
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: F3D on Dec 11, 2010, 07:10: AM
ars told me this some time ago ...
MP used to train soo many hours for day and now he has to study and he can train only 1-2 hours for day .... he prefered to quit insted train such little time because he can never improve with only 1-2 hours for day ....
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: Damiano on Dec 11, 2010, 10:28: AM
ars told me this some time ago ...
MP used to train soo many hours for day and now he has to study and he can train only 1-2 hours for day .... he prefered to quit insted train such little time because he can never improve with only 1-2 hours for day ....

How many?
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: alexfs on Dec 11, 2010, 10:39: AM
ars told me this some time ago ...
MP used to train soo many hours for day and now he has to study and he can train only 1-2 hours for day .... he prefered to quit insted train such little time because he can never improve with only 1-2 hours for day ....

How many?
a lot  :grin:
i remember once ARS wrote he did a total of 30 hours one week and usually does about 20, MP replied he used to train 50 hours per week in summer, going out to practice 4 times per day - even at night .. MP was also uploading videos from his night practices on Russian social network
it's not like he is super talented, i would say extremely hard-working and committed to freestyle
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: ukiFS on Dec 16, 2010, 11:10: PM
maybe he wants to improve his ping pong skills, so no time for fs  :grin:
Title: Re: Why does MP quit?
Post by: tbc on Jan 01, 2011, 02:46: AM
to learn aeatw  :043: